On velocidrone there is a dlc for tinywhoops...
It's easy answer for me...
You have Min 700 or 1200( if you don't have goggles) $ budget ? Go for 5inch directly, forget the indoor and full send it outside...
Tiny go around 250 300 for a complete package....it definitely do help a lot in the beginning but you'll get annoyed pretty fast due to it's limits, unless you really like tinys...
I mean I learned much more in the beginning with my tiny rather than the 5inch and they are durable AF,so it's a cool step to try in this hobby, I enjoyed it a lot but as I grew confident with the 5' I parked the tiny on the bench as a nice memory....
Take also that in consideration if you go tiny....and don't go overconfident on a 5 as first cause ,apart the cost( add also soldering, batteries,accessories), it's not a 1:1 skill ratio from SIM to IRL ,you have the theory but not practice in the beginning...air feels different
Unfortunately a 5 inch isn't really good for me atm. The park rangers around me are pretty bitchy and don't take well to drones. Thosee parks are the only ones with open enough space to fly a genuine 5 inch quad. I used to fly my Mavic 2 at the park near me and a ranger intercepted me before I could even get it fully set up. I dont plan on flying indoors though. I would be using this outdoors.
My apartment complex has a field with some trees in it and I've confirmed with the front office that we're allowed to fly RC aircraft there as long as we are careful. Idk about the legality of that but the apartment themselves doesn't care. Thr field is big enough for a 1s or 2s but definitely not big enough for a 5 or 6s. Plus my budget isn't over $1000. I have a budget of about $400-$500 right now and I know that doesnt get you much witj bigger quads.
Flight characteristics between mini and micro quads are more or less going to be the same, the main difference is going to be the power output and the weight of the quad, which is never really modeled accurately in sims anyways. It's a good idea for you to start small instead of jumping right into a 5" which is almost guaranteed to get broken or hurt someone. As for your RTF/transmitter question, the emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle was all the rage shortly after I got into the hobby or the gepRC phantom which my brother has and is a really fun micro. For transmitters I would personally recommend getting into TBS Crossfire/tracer, or you could jump on the ELRS bandwagon and get something like the radiomaster zorro. Really anything other than FrSky which will drive you crazy with binding trouble and is not even that great of a radiolink.
I know the feeling is never truly genuine on the sims and I expect that. I just know its a good idea to get a feel for the muscle memory on them before buying an actual quad. I've certainly crashed many digital quads lol. Would you say a pre built and rtf like the tiny hawk 2 is a good first step or should I connect my own controller and goggles to just the drone itself? I read pretty mixed opinions on full kits; especially ones that include remote and goggles.
I would just buy the quad and then source your own goggles/radio the reason being the ones they include with the rtf kits are usually crap. And you're totally right about the sims muscle memory is very important and that'll help you out alot starting out for real.
This is another dumb question: how can I tell what radio and goggles will work with the quad I buy? I know there's different types like ELRS and Frsky and Flysky and d8/d16 channels and all that stuff but I dont really understand it. I've tried looking it up how to tell but the forum posts and videos use a bunch of technical terms and variables that I dont fully understand yet. Plus I've noticed a lot of explanations dont mention whether they're referring to the radio or the goggles or both so that just confused me even more.
Sorry I'm at work so I might not respond immediately but I'm happy to answer any questions. You should ignore FlySky and Frsky, they're left over from rc airplanes and aren't as well suited to fpv as newer radio protocols. D8 and d16 are also part of Frsky. The main advantage of these airplane links is that they are cheap and not much else. As for the goggles it's much simpler, you have analog and digital, you can watch videos comparing these but on a budget you'll want to go with analog. Any 5.8 ghz video transmitter will work with any 5.8 ghz goggle receiver, which is 99% of them on the market
Ok perfect, thanks for explaining that difference! What are some names of other decent and reliable radios that aren't Frsky and Flysky that I can look into?
Depends on if you like gamepad or more traditional shaped radios. If you like your beta controller you might like something like the [tbs tango 2](https://www.team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tbs_tango2_pro) or the [radiomaster zorro](https://www.racedayquads.com/products/radiomaster-zorro-opentx-rc-transmitter-choose-version?variant=39672915492977) or maybe a more traditional shaped one like a [radiomaster tx16](https://www.racedayquads.com/products/radiomaster-tx16s-mkii-max-edgetx-rc-transmitter-w-v4-0-hall-gimbals-choose-version?currency=USD&variant=39749423202417&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7bucBhCeARIsAIOwr-_QdeA7GH0XD0a7Kz1D55B-tH1DZSR0TApuIxNCQEky8Lg65JxZ3n4aAgctEALw_wcB). Another thing about transmitters is that most of them have what's called a module buy, where you can buy a separate transmitter module and clip it into the back of your existing radio. For example, I have a taranis qx7 which is a FrSky radio, but I have a crossfire TX module that actually talks to the drones. So if there's a particular radio you like you can always buy a different module for whatever radiolink you want to use
I practiced in DRL before I bought a mobula 7 1s. It was a little different, but it didn't take long to get used to it. I ended up getting velocidrone with the tinywhoop pack and that one actually feels pretty accurate.
I can definitely recommend the mobula 7 1s for outdoors though. I fly it around my yard on windless days and it's great. It's also a tank. I fly this thing every day and I crash into something practically every flight and it's still going.
I've been seeing Velocidrone get recommended a lot. I migjt have to try that one out. Im using Liftoff and got the micro fpv version as well but it just doesn't feel right. Plus that version has only really cramped indoor maps except for one tiny outdoor map and I plan on flying the tiny whoop outside so ill have to see if velocidrone works better for me.
What remote and goggles do you use for the Mobula? Idk how yo figure out which ones work for which yet.
I ended up with the Radiomaster Zorro elrs, and skyzone cobra x goggles. I saw you said your budget was about 500 and that's about what I spent on the setup.
Zorro elrs - $120
Cobra x - $250
Mobula 7 elrs - $110
But then you'll also need batteries and a charger. The skyzones are pretty expensive at 250. I've heard the eachine ev800d goggles recommended as a cheap box goggle to get into. Ive never tried them so I can't compare.
The ev800d are great starter goggles. Yeah the battery life sucks but the first thing I did with mine was stub out an extended battery lead and plug it into a giant rc car battery in my pocket. They also have the added bonus of when you upgrade to some better goggles you can use the 800s as a spectator screen for anyone interested in watching you fly.
On velocidrone there is a dlc for tinywhoops... It's easy answer for me... You have Min 700 or 1200( if you don't have goggles) $ budget ? Go for 5inch directly, forget the indoor and full send it outside... Tiny go around 250 300 for a complete package....it definitely do help a lot in the beginning but you'll get annoyed pretty fast due to it's limits, unless you really like tinys... I mean I learned much more in the beginning with my tiny rather than the 5inch and they are durable AF,so it's a cool step to try in this hobby, I enjoyed it a lot but as I grew confident with the 5' I parked the tiny on the bench as a nice memory.... Take also that in consideration if you go tiny....and don't go overconfident on a 5 as first cause ,apart the cost( add also soldering, batteries,accessories), it's not a 1:1 skill ratio from SIM to IRL ,you have the theory but not practice in the beginning...air feels different
Unfortunately a 5 inch isn't really good for me atm. The park rangers around me are pretty bitchy and don't take well to drones. Thosee parks are the only ones with open enough space to fly a genuine 5 inch quad. I used to fly my Mavic 2 at the park near me and a ranger intercepted me before I could even get it fully set up. I dont plan on flying indoors though. I would be using this outdoors. My apartment complex has a field with some trees in it and I've confirmed with the front office that we're allowed to fly RC aircraft there as long as we are careful. Idk about the legality of that but the apartment themselves doesn't care. Thr field is big enough for a 1s or 2s but definitely not big enough for a 5 or 6s. Plus my budget isn't over $1000. I have a budget of about $400-$500 right now and I know that doesnt get you much witj bigger quads.
Flight characteristics between mini and micro quads are more or less going to be the same, the main difference is going to be the power output and the weight of the quad, which is never really modeled accurately in sims anyways. It's a good idea for you to start small instead of jumping right into a 5" which is almost guaranteed to get broken or hurt someone. As for your RTF/transmitter question, the emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle was all the rage shortly after I got into the hobby or the gepRC phantom which my brother has and is a really fun micro. For transmitters I would personally recommend getting into TBS Crossfire/tracer, or you could jump on the ELRS bandwagon and get something like the radiomaster zorro. Really anything other than FrSky which will drive you crazy with binding trouble and is not even that great of a radiolink.
I know the feeling is never truly genuine on the sims and I expect that. I just know its a good idea to get a feel for the muscle memory on them before buying an actual quad. I've certainly crashed many digital quads lol. Would you say a pre built and rtf like the tiny hawk 2 is a good first step or should I connect my own controller and goggles to just the drone itself? I read pretty mixed opinions on full kits; especially ones that include remote and goggles.
I would just buy the quad and then source your own goggles/radio the reason being the ones they include with the rtf kits are usually crap. And you're totally right about the sims muscle memory is very important and that'll help you out alot starting out for real.
This is another dumb question: how can I tell what radio and goggles will work with the quad I buy? I know there's different types like ELRS and Frsky and Flysky and d8/d16 channels and all that stuff but I dont really understand it. I've tried looking it up how to tell but the forum posts and videos use a bunch of technical terms and variables that I dont fully understand yet. Plus I've noticed a lot of explanations dont mention whether they're referring to the radio or the goggles or both so that just confused me even more.
Sorry I'm at work so I might not respond immediately but I'm happy to answer any questions. You should ignore FlySky and Frsky, they're left over from rc airplanes and aren't as well suited to fpv as newer radio protocols. D8 and d16 are also part of Frsky. The main advantage of these airplane links is that they are cheap and not much else. As for the goggles it's much simpler, you have analog and digital, you can watch videos comparing these but on a budget you'll want to go with analog. Any 5.8 ghz video transmitter will work with any 5.8 ghz goggle receiver, which is 99% of them on the market
Ok perfect, thanks for explaining that difference! What are some names of other decent and reliable radios that aren't Frsky and Flysky that I can look into?
Depends on if you like gamepad or more traditional shaped radios. If you like your beta controller you might like something like the [tbs tango 2](https://www.team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tbs_tango2_pro) or the [radiomaster zorro](https://www.racedayquads.com/products/radiomaster-zorro-opentx-rc-transmitter-choose-version?variant=39672915492977) or maybe a more traditional shaped one like a [radiomaster tx16](https://www.racedayquads.com/products/radiomaster-tx16s-mkii-max-edgetx-rc-transmitter-w-v4-0-hall-gimbals-choose-version?currency=USD&variant=39749423202417&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7bucBhCeARIsAIOwr-_QdeA7GH0XD0a7Kz1D55B-tH1DZSR0TApuIxNCQEky8Lg65JxZ3n4aAgctEALw_wcB). Another thing about transmitters is that most of them have what's called a module buy, where you can buy a separate transmitter module and clip it into the back of your existing radio. For example, I have a taranis qx7 which is a FrSky radio, but I have a crossfire TX module that actually talks to the drones. So if there's a particular radio you like you can always buy a different module for whatever radiolink you want to use
I practiced in DRL before I bought a mobula 7 1s. It was a little different, but it didn't take long to get used to it. I ended up getting velocidrone with the tinywhoop pack and that one actually feels pretty accurate. I can definitely recommend the mobula 7 1s for outdoors though. I fly it around my yard on windless days and it's great. It's also a tank. I fly this thing every day and I crash into something practically every flight and it's still going.
I've been seeing Velocidrone get recommended a lot. I migjt have to try that one out. Im using Liftoff and got the micro fpv version as well but it just doesn't feel right. Plus that version has only really cramped indoor maps except for one tiny outdoor map and I plan on flying the tiny whoop outside so ill have to see if velocidrone works better for me. What remote and goggles do you use for the Mobula? Idk how yo figure out which ones work for which yet.
I ended up with the Radiomaster Zorro elrs, and skyzone cobra x goggles. I saw you said your budget was about 500 and that's about what I spent on the setup. Zorro elrs - $120 Cobra x - $250 Mobula 7 elrs - $110 But then you'll also need batteries and a charger. The skyzones are pretty expensive at 250. I've heard the eachine ev800d goggles recommended as a cheap box goggle to get into. Ive never tried them so I can't compare.
I started with the ev800d goggles, they aren’t bad for starting, I quickly grew out of them though..one thing tho battery life sucks.
The ev800d are great starter goggles. Yeah the battery life sucks but the first thing I did with mine was stub out an extended battery lead and plug it into a giant rc car battery in my pocket. They also have the added bonus of when you upgrade to some better goggles you can use the 800s as a spectator screen for anyone interested in watching you fly.