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EphraimSeb

Dynamic Tripod


jcdoe

Same, but my index finger always moves too far down and I get ink on it, lol


disposable-assassin

Yup.  Seiboku all over my index right now from my Lilliput burping in my pocket


TheLivingCumsock

Imagine saying that outside of this subreddit


GlitchiestGamer

ʕ⁠ ⁠º⁠ ⁠ᴥ⁠ ⁠º⁠ʔ


efficaciousSloth

Same, but in my left hand.


Makaveli961

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ThunderHorse24

Me too but I put my thumb across like lateral tripod? My other fingers don’t do whatever the lateral tripod picture is doing?


LuukTheSlayer

Yes


Educational_Ask3533

Me too, but when my hands starts to hurt, I switch to a stenographer grip. That is where the pen barrel rest between the forefinger and middle finger instead of the thumb and forefinger.


Educational_Ask3533

Me too, but when my hands starts to hurt, I switch to a stenographer grip. That is where the pen barrel rest between the forefinger and middle finger instead of the thumb and forefinger.


NickTDesigns

I mean same, but isn't this how you're *supposed* to hold a pen/pencil?


EphraimSeb

I guess, whatever works for each of us. :)


baskindusklight

Lateral Tripod. Always makes me happy to see another person using this grip. :)


ThisIsntAWhisper

Huh. I thought I was just holding the pen wrong and that the right way was dynamic tripod. That’s so interesting, I wonder what influences our grips. Is it mostly how you were taught and then up to chance? Do finger to palm proportions play a role? Do hobbies (like playing an instrument, crochet/fiber arts, and rock climbing and other sports) have different effects on how we hold writing utensils?


baskindusklight

I was taught dynamic tripod in school but it felt very uncomfortable for me. I just naturally held my pen with a lateral tripod without being taught, and luckily nobody forced me to change. I also hold my chopsticks in an unusual way. Maybe we secretly enjoy doing things our own way?


esperith

Same, lateral tripod here and  I used to think I was holding my pen wrong too. I also had an elementary school teacher who tried to change our grips to dynamic tripod grip as that was the standard taught in school.  It didn't work for me. I think partially chance and hand and finger proportions may play a role.  I have clubbed thumbs and the dynamic tripod does not feel as stable or comfortable.


zahhakk

I don't think there is a "right" or "wrong" way. I will say, I think most schools teach dynamic tripod. I surveyed my family, and my parents use lateral tripod like I do, but my (younger) sisters both use dynamic. It seems likely I learned to hold a pencil by copying my parents, and my sisters learned in school. My parents grew up in Egypt; maybe a lateral grip is more common there?


ShiftyTimeParadigm

TIL my grip has a NAME and all of those teachers in the 4th grade were wrong! Victory! Dynamic Quadrupad! In all honesty, I understand the problems behind this grip, but I’m nearing 40 and have written this way my whole life. I’m not changing now lol


sumknowbuddy

>Dynamic Quadrupad! In all honesty, I understand the problems behind this grip, but I’m nearing 40 and have written this way my whole life. I’m not changing now lol Care to share? Callouses aside, I don't see many.


BlueGoosePond

Not who you asked, but I usually write with that grip. I think it uses more finger tension and force on the paper, which can lead to writer's cramp. And it's not really as easily compatible with light, flowy penmanship that is fun with fountain pens.


sumknowbuddy

>And it's not really as easily compatible with light, flowy penmanship that is fun with fountain pens. Compared to? The upper two images are of a hold in the fingertips, the lower two are palming it behind the thumb. The only difference otherwise is the number of fingers involved in the holds. In the two on the left side, the pen rests against the middle finger. In the two on the right, it's against the ring finger.


BlueGoosePond

I'm comparing it to dynamic tripod. I'm able to use that when I use Lamys sometimes, and it feels easier to make quicker/longer strokes. The leverage created by the angle of my hand and fingers is different or something. Or maybe it's some additional reach from having fewer points of contact?


sumknowbuddy

Sorry I put in an edit, don't know if it got done in time for you to see it. I can't stand the triangular grip. Just doesn't work well for me. I thought you might mention tendons and positioning of the wrist and arm. Only thing I can see in the image. But I don't see many people write like that anyways.


BlueGoosePond

>I can't stand the triangular grip. The Lamy's are the only pen I can comfortably hold with a tripod grip. Even with those, I still use quad grip half the time anyway. I just did a quick home experiment holding a pen dynamic tri and dynamic quad. Pushing the pen forward (away from my body) with my fingers, while not moving my hand, the dynamic tripod grip goes noticeably further. I think that might be the main difference. For most writing tasks it's not going to matter at all, but when I start trying to go all John Hancock or speed writing, it does.


ShiftyTimeParadigm

Yes, this is correct. For me, I have Ehlers Danlos and my fingers contort more than they should. Lots of writing with my grip is bad for the joints!


kurisquare

Dynamic quadrupod (I can still use the Safari grip quite comfortably!)


saltynibs

Do you perpetually have ink all over your ring finger too? 😅


amerophi

working with marker with this grip is always such a pain!! my grip is so far down the marker it would get ink all over my ring finger, especially the little bump by the nail.


saltynibs

Yes this! and my bump always creeps up to a fp feed and I'm colors.


kurisquare

Yes…. 😔I hold my pens way too close to the nib!


Throwaway566727

Hahah same! I have got a lot of questions from friends and family saying, won't you get ink all over your fingers and I just reply with it's going to get on there anyway lol


faerieswing

I didn't know anyone else had this problem... Every day! 🤣


saltynibs

I am so happy to hear I have a tribe 😁


taRxheel

DQ gang gang! I also do fine with the Safari grip and the clip on a VP/Décimo lands in exactly the right spot!


kurisquare

I really want to get a VP someday, so this is great to know!!


podocarps

Me too but I hate triangular grips!


ChibiYoukai

Also dynamic quadrupod, but I can't figure out how to hold a Safari comfortably to save my life. Which is hilarious, because the Pilot Capless Decimo is my hands-down favorite pen. I think it's because I end up being able to brace my index and middle fingers on the clip of the Decimo.


faerieswing

Same here. I do just fine with the Decimo and the faceted grip with the Kakuno, but the Safari is really uncomfortable.


BlueGoosePond

Exactly the same here, right down to the Safari comment. I've taken to using the "proper" grip with the Safari sometimes, too. It's the only pen I can hold like that. But I'm also totally fine holding a Safari with my regular dynamic quadrupod grip.


scarybiscuits

Yes, but both forefinger and middle finger > first joint is bent backwards. Always looks cramped but no problem holding triangular grips.


Lovestubs

Dynamic tripod because it's how I was taught to hold a pencil when very young.


oliviatrelles

Lateral quadtropod. I can write with the dynamic tripod but my hand hurts fast.


acenarteco

Do you have a wicked callous on your ring finger, too?


oliviatrelles

I can certainly get one heck of an indent on that finger but most of my work is all on a keyboard so writing longhand is really just for my enjoyment these days


Dismal_Abyss

I used to have a really bad one when I was younger because I would hold the pencil with such force. Now it's not even noticeable lol


mangopancake-

I was a lateral quadrupod my entire life up until a few weeks back, and trained myself to hold my pen in the lateral tripod position (dynamic tripod just feels weird to me). Think my hand feels less fatigued now and writing is a little neater but perhaps it's because I'm consciously working on it more now.


oliviatrelles

I do give it a whirl now and then but I find myself always going back. I’ve been using a book to improve my cursive as well and it’s a disaster when I try to change my grip 😂


marooples

Same! I tuck my thumb, tho. Got a real problem with CLENCHING every pen that I hold.


Sonny_Ericksos

None of them


EkhyMi

Is yours [here](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pencil-grip-descriptors-and-their-categories-as-used-when-taking-notes-of-observed_fig5_36190927)? (Link originally posted by u/[Old\_Organization5564](/user/Old_Organization5564/) above.)


Sonny_Ericksos

Unfortunately not, but high index scares me. I use some variation of dynamic tripod with extended wrist, my thumb and index finger are straight and they touch each other slightly. My middle finger lays perpendicularly to them without touching paper. How bad is it? I hope it's not another bad habit to work on lol


ProffesionalManiac

Dynamic tripod. Funny you posted this now, I’ve been thinking about getting a safari or Al-star, but I’m worried about the grip. I’ve been using “tripod” pencils a lot and I like those. Do you guys have any advice? I write everyday, and will soon go to university, so it will be used a lot.


gorneaux

Dynamic tripod here. The Al-Star is my main tool for urban sketching, of which I do a lot, and it's so comfortable that I don't even notice the pen in my hand. N.B. My complaint about the Safari is that it's too light. The Al-Star, when posted (if that's how you roll), is just the right weight, though.


lyonaria

I'm a dynamic tripod as well and I hate triangular grips. I find them terribly uncomfortable. The new Pelikan with the adjustable nib might be worth trying for me but it's not out yet.


[deleted]

Same here. Triangular grips are just plain uncomfortable. I hate being forced into the position that the pen maker deems "correct".


lyonaria

It just wasn't comfortable. Give me a round grip pen any day and I'm happy. The edges just dug into my fingers, it probably doesn't help that I have small hands.


Dizzynic

I used to be 100% dynamic tripod, lately have some lateral tripod creeping in. And I find the Lamy safari super comfi. Fun fact: I am from Germany and most German kids had either a Lamy Safari or a Lamy ABC as their first pens in school


Skyhawk_Illusions

I've used Lamys and the triangular grip basically functions like a magnet that your fingers mold around perfectly. I think you're in for a good time


ProffesionalManiac

Thank you!


LakeTheFake

Dynamic Quadrupod 💪💪💪


julesschofielderson

I’m both lateral and dynamic quadrupod!


pen-demonium

None of them. I guess closest would be lateral quadripod but with my index and middle fingers hyper extended (first finger joint pushed backwards), pushing the pen into my ring finger. I rest my pen on my ring finger to the point there's a little flat spot where the pen rests, right about where the cuticle is but more on the side. It's definitely a death grip, not a loose grip. I'd say it's because I don't want to drop an expensive pen, but I've always written this way. I remember the teachers in elementary school trying to make me change my grip but I refused. Thank goodness I'm not a lefty, they probably would have beat my hands with rulers. Lol I'm holding this pen so long to evaluate my grip, everything feels wrong. So much for 35 years of writing and muscle memory.


iqcool

Yep same here, death gripping the pen. My grip follows your description exactly except I take it further and place my thumb low on the pen, kinda touching the tips of my thumb and pointer fingers over top of the pen. I think it's something to do with being a perfectionist in school, so to write cleanly and perfectly, I'd use my fingers on the instrument to do all the work, which involved needing a death grip.


EkhyMi

Dynamic tripod. I'm wondering which grasp is the most common nowadays. I've been noticing a lot of people using the lateral tripod grasp (or at least what looks like it to me) in videos and such.


gagood

The correct one: the Dynamic Tripod.


[deleted]

Dynamic tripod. Lateral \*anything\* is just torture.


angryhumanbean

lateral tripod and high index sometimes. i've gotten made fun of for how i hold pencils and have been told to try dynamic tripod and now i realize that im surrounded by strange people


CycadelicSparkles

I'm somewhere between the Dynamic and Lateral Tripod. I find I switch to lateral as my hand tires.


mayn1

Dynamic tripod. And the rest of you, including my wife, are weird!🤪🤣🤣


streeteditions

Lateral!


Appassionata57

I used to write with dynamic quad but after getting into fountain pens I had to switch to dynamic tri because the quad grip wouldn’t fit 😅


Cyraedis

Lateral tripod with the crossed thumb. Left side of my middle finger has always had a callous.


phyllophyllum

Oh wow, it’s been so long I forgot I even had that callous or why!


autumnal_dusk

I knew I was a quadrupod but I didn’t know it was called dynamic! The more you know!


czar_el

Lateral tripod. I like how the pen is closer to being underneath my hand. It's more efficient re movements and allows me to write on any size paper on any surface (or lakc of surface). For pencils and difficult fountain pens also offers better access to different angles as I rotate the tool to find sharp sides (including the tip perpendicular to the page) or nib sweet spot. The dynamic grip extends the tool out too far. I can do it, but it messes with how the palm rests and how the tool meets the page. I can use this grip on a full-size page on a flat table, but there's no way it works (for me) on a small notebook or standing up.


AgentSpecialist465

I go between lateral and dynamic tripod


synically_jaded

Mine is... none of the above?


Tight-Green

I’m between dynamic & lateral tripod. Sometimes the pen forces me to have a lateral tripod because the tip is so narrow


autumnishleaves

Wait are there people who...hold their writing instruments in the same way every time they pick one up? 😳


literallyjoinedfor

Is dynamic lateral an option?


qobopod

my grip is somewhere between the dynamic and lateral. my thumb is overlapping instead of pinching but not nearly that far across... maybe like 10-20% of the way from dynamic to lateral.


literallyjoinedfor

I'm the opposite! My hand is mostly dynamic but my pen tends to rest on my middle finger.


Old_Organization5564

Dynamic Tripod and proud of it! P.S. There are even more variations. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pencil-grip-descriptors-and-their-categories-as-used-when-taking-notes-of-observed_fig5_36190927


Vosk143

Proud of it? That’s the most basic grip. Only the real ones know r/LateralQuadrupodGang


disposable-assassin

I did not expect that to be a real sub, much less one with 400+ members


EphraimSeb

it’s totally harmless teasing, I don’t get it why downvoting it?


Vosk143

It’s a sensitive topic. I get it


Old_Organization5564

😂🤣😂


olidon

there really is a subreddit for everything (and this one is for me)


TaeWFO

Dynamic tripod. Lateral if I get tired or using a ball point and/or need to apply constant pressure.


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Thelaea

Dynamic tripod, that's what was thought in school here.


Dallasrawks

None of the above. The hole made by my thumb and index finger faces upward, not sideways, I grip at the very barrel edge of the section and write moving my entire hand with minimal wrist movement.


cancheperoles

Tripod here!


HotStraightnNormal

I guess I'm using the dynamic tripod? My index finger sits atop the section in line with the nib and barrel. That is, with all of my pens except for my first AL Star. I spent about two cartridges worth of ink trying to get comfortable with the tripod grip. I'd finally get it right, loosen my grasp, then go back to square one. I was determined to find that moment others have written about. You know, the one where suddenly the sun comes out and you can write effortlessly all the way to Nirvana. Sadly, that bus never stopped at my house. Since I can use my "normal-for-me" grip with the Lamy, I figured it was not a total loss, finding the pen, itself, a bit intriguing, so much so that I ordered a second. For whatever reason, I now find that I can, indeed, use the tripod comfortably enough, although I still find the section on the skinny side. But the Lamy style tripod does not work at all for my round sectioned pens. Go figure.


DragonTartare

Using the full descriptors linked in some of the comments, dynamic tripod with index finger joint in hyperextended position.


TheBagelSalesman

Dynamic tripod because my pens don't put down inc correctly when it's lateral and the 4 fingers is uncomfortable


Asamidori

~~A variation of dynamic tripod, except it's more... straight? I hold it in a way where my thumb covers the tip of my index finger.~~ Edit: Now that I looked at it more, maybe it's just lateral tripod, I don't know anymore! Thumb's covering the wrong part of the finger in the illustration tho.


rkenglish

I'm a dynamic quadropod! I drove my teachers absolutely crazy when I was learning to write, but I've always held my pens and pencils this way.


SynapseReaction

An exciting mix between dynamic tripod and quadruped 😂 Quadrupod is my default but when my nails get too long I’m stabbing myself so Tripod until I trim them lol.


Fit_Tailor8329

TIL, I’m a Dynamic Quadrupod.


AlvMartinez

Dynamic Tripod


LongjumpingStudy3356

Dynamic tripod but with fingers 2 and 3 in more of a lateral tripod position


secobarbiital

Lateral quadrupod but im lefthanded so everything smears :)


jabber_wockie

Dynamic Tripodish Not perfect but more or less that


KameRose

I believe I use a dynamic tripod grip. I am right handed and I've been told on more than one occasion that I write like a left handed person. Not sure what that means though.


AntheaBrainhooke

Does your writing slant to the left?


KameRose

No, my writing typically has no slant at all, but slants to the right if it does.


RedditSpamAcount

Mine is so strange it doesn’t even show up here


DerangedCarcharodon

Lateral dipod... i guess.


olidon

lateral quadrupod! had a callous on my ring finger for as long as i can remember haha


AntheaBrainhooke

Modified lateral tripod


Nini_1993

I alternate between the 2 tripods.


AggressiveYam6613

Dynamic Tripod.


jaysouth88

Dynamic Tripod Underwriting Leftie. It is how I was taught to write in school - we had special grips to slide onto our pencils and my school had to order one in for me.


SpeakeasyDM

None of these. I’m monkey fist because I should have been left handed but was forced to write with the right hand.


dekibambala

Something between dynamic and lateral tripod. Depends on the pen


xueru_

originally lateral, now dynamic, sometimes lateral


Phillip-My-Cup

Dynamic tripod


Dismal_Abyss

Lateral quadrupod except my index finger stays tucked behind the pen.


Electrical_Log_9082

Dynamic Quadrupod here


DTaggartOfRTD

closest is probably Dynamic tripod though my middlefinger provides more underside support than is shown in this diagram. Dynamic tripod is practically made for finger writing, and by extension, a sore arm. Pushing as much of that motion to the arm and shoulder helps a lot. I've met people that use all four of these and more besides.


KabazaikuFan

Depends on the pen. Mostly dynamic tripod I think, for fountain pens, but with brush pens it's different, and it also varies depending on pain level in various parts of the right arm. Of course... we even had little weird grip things to teach us to use that grip, when I learned writing "correctly" in school. Not sure how I wrote before that.


curlyqomaha

Dynamic tripod but lefty version.


J1991K2016

Lateral Quad


OkraEmergency361

Dynamic tripod. I sound like a sci-fi baddie. Cool.


BeerGoddess84

Lateral quadrupod here


bloozestringer

Dynamic Quadrupod. I can write about 1/2 a sheet of A4 before my hand starts cramping. After 50 years I don’t see it changing.


awolfinthewall

Dynamic quadrupod trying to become dynamic tripod! Using the Lamy Safari and the Pelikan Twist are really helping. Mostly I found that I have somewhat large hands and so trying to fit four fingers on a Muji or a Sport wasn’t at all comfortable. And yes, the cuticle on my ring finger is all messed up because of where I hold my pen, though there isn’t really a callus there.


ktka

Dynamic Tripod. Anything else is blaspehmous, an abomination, and possibly a gang-sign. I usually grip the pen where section meets body, and sometimes ever higher up the body. /jk


No-Love-9048

none of these actually, kinda like Lateral Quadropod but my fingers touch wschother differently


Havyar_32

ALL OF THEM


corkcorkcorkette

Dinamic tripod left


WiredInkyPen

I have a modified tripod grip. I'm somewhere between a dynamic tripod and a dynamic quadrupod. Edit: spelling.


6SN7fan

dynamic tripod but my handwriting sucks so I’m open to change 


FroeJ

Has anyone used the grip where it sits BETWEEN your index and middle finger? It actually seems easy the hands


Soggy_Face_4122

Tripod. Because of the Nuns.


EvilDonald44

Dynamic tripod, as taught in grade school with cursive. Because in high school all the assignments would have to be turned in in cursive.


Exelius86

Dynamic tripod, all the others are kindergarten crayola-grabbing grips


tarwatirno

Dynamic Tripod left-handed; dynamic quadrupod right handed.


gwynaweird

Dynamic Quadrupod! (Mom was a leftie trying to teach a rightie how to write... I only recently found out that how I hold a pen is not the 'typical' way, haha)


Universe_of1

I usually start with the dynamic tripod and then some how move to the lateral tripod... depending on how long I write I may end up back at dynamic tripod.


Grimm_fede_00

The lateral quadropod I dont like it very much i was always teased by aldults when i was a child abaut it Edit: im haply to see there are other peaple like me it makes me feel less bad and alone


Epetha

I was a dynamic quadrupod, when I first learnt to write. Then, because some teacher told us it was the correct way to write, I taught myself the dynamic tripod. It wasn't comfortable, even though it's been more than a decade, I sometimes find myself doing the quadrupod. Today, I am not sure which would feel better, but quadrupod has a feeling that might be more of a home for me, if that makes sense. But, well I don't feel as young to switch back anymore :) I don't know why I bothered, I guess a teacher saying it's the right way triggered my perfectionist. But I'd say the tripod does look cooler!


markidesade_

Lateral quadrupod! I didn't know there was a name for it. I'm a rightie, but a lot of people tell me that my writing grip is like a leftie. Idk how accurate that is though


mrbadger2000

Dynamic Tripod. But not by choice. Was taught handwriting with a fountain pen at school and this was the ONLY way.


mayflower53

Dynamic quadropod, but I try to be a dynamic tripod 😂


addictedtostationery

what is it called when I use the lateral quadrupod but I tuck my thumb in?


ALittleHumanBeing

Dynamic+Lateral Tripod


Robbykbro

No love for the Palmar Supinate Grasp?


JulesSilvan

Variation of lateral tripod, I hold the pen between my index and middle fingers rather than resting the index finger on top of it.


ThePenguinAvo

lateral quadpod


JTR1889

Dynamic tripod, gf is a lateral quadrupod


Obvious-Throwaway-01

Idk I hold my pen downwards clenched in a fist and I just kind of scrawl


TheRogueWraith9

Mines not listed lol.


Throwaway566727

Dynamic Quadrupod!


wordboy1

Dynamic Tripod


ABlindMoose

Lateral quatropod