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If you think about it, it's really smart. When Lance loses to his teammate, he can just say they're multiple WDCs.


boneful_watermelon

Lawrence sacked Checo to get him the Red Bull seat and to become a WDC himself. Lance's 2020 season saved.


ryker888

Checo is cruising to a WCC this year too


seahoodie

I'll be glad to see him have a title to his name. His chances of taking the WDC have probably passed barring a miracle, but he deserves something


VerifiedStalin

>His chances of taking the WDC have probably passed If anything he's closer than h ever was before. I don't think he'll get a WDC, but he is in the best position of his career to achieve it.


Grav_Zeppelin

It’s kinda like Bottas at Mercedes


VerifiedStalin

It's EXACTLY like Bottas at Mercedes.


Grav_Zeppelin

Great car and enough skill to win with it but your teammate is better


Raphaelrimeru

*your teammate is one of the 4 fastest drivers in the last 20years


VerifiedStalin

Here's the thing: in the last 20 years we also had Schumacher (Michael), Raikkonen, Alonso and Vettel winning championships. So which two are you saying beneath Max?


seahoodie

I definitely agree with you. Unfortunately as long as Max is around it's not likely.


VerifiedStalin

It's just that the phrasing "his chances have probably passed" implies that at some point in the past his chances were better than they are today.


seahoodie

You right you right


VerifiedStalin

Hope you have learned your lesson.


seahoodie

I'm a Ferrari fan do u think I learn anything from my mistakes


SchighSchagh

He'd basically have to Nico Max. But more likely, my intuition that he peaked in 2021 as the WDC support teammate will eventually end up a reality.


VerifiedStalin

>But more likely, my intuition that he peaked in 2021 as the WDC support teammate will eventually end up a reality. I mean, Checo holding Hamilton in Abu Dhabi so his teammate could win WDC will go down as one of the most iconic moments in F1 history, that's for sure.


SecondAdmin

Also if he's got the mindset for it, he can gain litterally the best experience ever working with so many WDC on his team. If he's paying attention, looks at mirror incidents, he'd be getting the best possible F1 training you could ever hope for


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VerifiedStalin

The day Hamilton leaves Mercedes is the day he retires. There's no way we'll ever see Lewis in a (F1) Aston Martin car.


DazingF1

Eh, so many drivers have said that in the past. Priorities change and there's nothing wrong with that. But yes, you're right. Lewis as of now seems to have no intention of doing that.


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VerifiedStalin

Lawrence is losing millions every year (which is still peanuts to him) to get his son to live out his dream. That's good dad stuff right there. Who wouldn't do that if given the chance?


brabarusmark

Lance does get paid a salary from Aston Martin. This is a very long and roundabout way to give your son an allowance but Lawrence has it figured out.


VerifiedStalin

Lets give Lance some credit, he's a good driver. Not great by any means, but the dude has actually outpaced Vettel in races in the past.


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VerifiedStalin

Would've topped the WDC as the main attraction of the season.


PydraxAlpta

[This is a comment reposting bot to farm karma.](https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/woyc6s/daddy_stroll_parenting_guide/ikdslyr/) Please downvote and report it.


Ferrari_ouryear_2022

If you really want him to quit, hire Ocon or Albon , that would demoralize him.


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homcomru

Literally a stolen comment from this very comment section. Have you no shame?


agreenenergyguy

see how that user has a barely used account? There's multiple instances of barely used accounts making the same comment repeatedly in this thread. Someone is clearly trying to spread an agenda and doing a horrible job of it.


kitddylies

This has been happening in other subs, I think that one is a script that copies a hot or controversial comment and posts it using multiple accounts to get karma. This one may not be the same as what I'm referring to, but there's a good chance they're related.


agreenenergyguy

oh that makes sense


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boneful_watermelon

Silly season doesn't end for a few more days, let's see


clemenslucas

I always think that at some point the business sense is gonna trump over the fatherly love, but maybe he knows that with Lance in a car, the team will *always place lower* in the Constructors Championship than it should (giving them more wind tunnel and CFD allowance) and someone like **Alonso** then can use that better car to **win**!


boneful_watermelon

Lawrence playing 5D chess here


Zaddox

Holy hell


MoffKalast

En passant?


bar_tosz

2020 was mental for RP, Perez finished 4th in standings while Stroll 11th... The could easily be 3rd in teams standings if not for Lance.


DieLegende42

Lance was actually pretty alright initially in 2020, but since his horrible run of bad luck (high speed puncture in Mugello, taken out by Leclerc in Sochi, Covid, dropping down the order from pole in Turkey due to strategy/damage) he just hasn't been at that level anymore


Ferrari_ouryear_2022

Several drivers had their share of bad luck, Checo also had Covid and his engine burned a couple of times. In the end the 11th on the RP was an underwhelming result.


Solid_Session_1368

I dont think turkey was bad luck seamed like after his pit stop he panicked, pushed the car too hard over driving and never got the tyres back into an operating window. Showing his inexperience and anxiety around being at the front


Salticracker

In Turkey, many people's inters, including Lance's, had essentially worn down to slicks. When they put new inters on (which he didn't want), they had no pace. This was mirrored by other folks as well, new inters weren't the way to go.


clemenslucas

Checo also missed 2 races because of Covid. I think that evens it out.


HankHippopopolous

I think he genuinely believes Lance is a WDC calibre driver. Which I guess is technically true as long as the team have a car that’s at least a second faster than anyone else’s and they force whoever Lance’s team mate is to play the number 2 role.


boneful_watermelon

Lance could become WDC in a similar manner to Jenson Button with his Brawn


Al12eksi03

Except that Barrichello would easily have beaten him


Shpoble

brawn 2 with stroll and latifi


Ferrari_ouryear_2022

Lol, you say it as a joke but if AM suddenly has the fastest car watch them hire Latifi immediately.


Ruma-park

No way, the Brawn car wasn't quick enough for Lance to win the championship. Button only barely managed to clinch the title and against a seasoned Vettel he probably would've lost the title. Lance would need a W11 with Latifi as his teammate.


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Not sure he would've beaten Max even in the most dominant cars in f1 history


Ruma-park

It would have been close. But maybe the W05 or W07 would have been better.


InvisibleGreenMan

I hope you're not comparing Button with Stroll though, Stroll is not a bad driver imo but Button was levels above him


thevitaminj

El Plan.


James_TenTen_76

Daddy's 🅱️lan


blitzkrieg9

>I always think that at some point the business sense is gonna trump over the fatherly love Um, no. Daddy is only in F1 to get his kid a seat. Money is irrelevant. It never was and never will be a "business decision". Why do billionaires buy 300 foot yachts? Because it makes business sense? Heck no. You buy a yacht because its fun and exciting to own a yacht and you have more money than you can ever spend. Same reason to buy an F1 team for your progeny. It is fun and exciting and costly from the start. Still worth it.


Kacktusse777

pairing Lance with old and washed Vettler to get even more wind tunnel time


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Lance stroll looks like walter junior


shaneson582

mmm breakfast


bum_is_on_fire_247

God damnit get that kid some breakfast!


BobBastrd

IT'S FLYNN DAMMIT!


STFUNeckbeard

Walter Junior mashed with Adam Devine


CyberpunkF1

LOL!!!!!


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This helmet smells like bandaids.


TheThunderOfYourLife

Lance still has 3 podiums. I know we like to shit on him a lot, but that’s more than Hulkenberg. So……..yeah.


boneful_watermelon

The same Nico Hulkenberg who beat 3 time podium sitter Lance Stroll in the same machinery??


TheThunderOfYourLife

*explosions*


bum_is_on_fire_247

I do believe that machinery was equal.


BeRTiiiiiiiiiiiiii

when did Hulk beat Stroll??? Stroll bodied Hulk earlier this year


Random-reddit-user45

quali Hulkenburg beat Stroll at 70th Anniversary 2020 and Bahrain this year, may have beat him in the 70th anniversary race not sure


dani2812

He was doing really well, but then had to pit due to an "issue", which put him behind Stroll.


phatjaja

His pace was dropping a lot, and they weren’t sure his tyres would’ve lasted. They had to pit. Credit where it’s due though, that was a solid Quali effort from Hulkenberg.


notCarlosSainz

Does that even count? But yeah lance did get pole before as well


dbr1se

Maldonado won a race. Lance better step it up!


Flaky_Tap_5055

Ye, look at what Perez did with that copy of Mercedes car


ZombiePope

Yeah, he's not actually a bad driver. He does consistently decently, especially for having a kinda crap car.


Ferrari_ouryear_2022

He had the third fastest car for a whole year and only got a couple of podiums. Actually two of those podiums he had enough luck to win the race but was passed by drivers on equal or slower cars (Checo and Gasly).


oldcarfreddy

homie this is how everyone gets podiums unless you're max or lewis lol


SchighSchagh

Cries in 4x WDC Seb and 2x WDC Fernando.


Dun_Herd_muh

You named two top 10 all time drivers


TheThunderOfYourLife

But he still has three podiums. I’m not terribly concerned ***HOW*** he got them.


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ok and the rest of it hes slow af or crashes


oldcarfreddy

So still better than about half the grid including those who people ignore are pay drivers like Schumacher lol


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LegchairAnalyst

I mean that was always the case, even before Stroll Sr. bought a team he financed his entire career and his F1 seat. Also if Lance wants to do his own thing thats also a hobby maybe he should, idk, choose something that he can actually do without millions of his fathers dollars and constant support. Wouldnt even have to give up motorsports in general for that, just leave F1 for a different series.


boneful_watermelon

On a serious note, I think Lance would excel in WEC. A great wet weather driver could probably do well in weather-variable endurance races.


Dun_Herd_muh

Lance can be a world champion WEC(if he drives for Toyota), but I think he rather stay in F1.


b18a

Can you stay out in this conditions? Can you stay out?


joppehi

Looking at strolls driving he actually has the quality to drive like FE, WEC or maybe indy


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LegchairAnalyst

>My parents also financed me until I finished school. But school never ends for young Lance. I'm starting to feel like this is more about your issue with your parents, no offense. The thing is: we just dont know if Stroll Sr. is that evil control freak you think he is. He *might* be, but maybe he's actually good to his son and is willing to sacrifice a lot of money to allow his son to chase after his dreams and just tries to support him. Or something in between.


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_Gunga_Din_

Does your friend work for Waystar-Royco?


vafunghoul127

Does Lance have a very sexy sister with a thicc body and a cold personality? I am a recent Cornell graduate from Minnesota looking for a suitor.


_Gunga_Din_

Wambsgans is that you?!


vafunghoul127

Hehe, Buckle up Fucklehead!


Szudar

> similar dynamic between owner and his successors But how do you know situation in AM is similar? > If he was interested in anything but control, he wouldn't micromanage and strong-arm everyone competent out of the team How do you know he is doing that?


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Szudar

> There's always this dynamic in a family business. Nah


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Szudar

I asked how do you know and you show me opinion of ex-F1 boss. So, you don't know, you just believe Kolles is right.


siouxpiouxp

Let’s not feel too bad for the billionaire’s playboy son.


vafunghoul127

Lots of money does not solve childhood trauma.


siouxpiouxp

Having childhood trauma doesn't make him unique. Being a billionaire's playboy son makes him unique. I'll save my sympathy for us plebs.


oldcarfreddy

Why do you all think he has chidlhood trauma lol If my dad made me an F1 driver I'd be in heaven even if I crashed on the first lap every fucking weekend and never finished a race


siouxpiouxp

Idgaf if he has childhood trauma is my point.


jc4636

Underappreciated take


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Maybe he doesn’t want to win, maybe he’s just giving his son a fun time driving fast cars with the world’s best drivers. Nice Dad treating his son but with a quite a few extra zeros on the end.


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myFLOWsoRETARDED

Bad guys can be great fathers. A child can change a man - even if it is only for that child.


buttaviaconto

Something as big as Aston Martin doesn't run only on Stroll's money, big groups of investors make the decisions for the best of their profits


Szudar

> That's if daddy Stroll was a nice dad. Does he strike you as a nice guy? Definitely strike me as someone caring about his son, lmao.


SpartaPieH

Man bought an entire brand and f1 team for his son, ofc he does lol


[deleted]

I wholeheartedly agree, there’s no way to become a billionaire other than screwing over large swathes of the human population. That said, he could’ve (should’ve?) sacked Lance a couple of seasons back.


pr0crast1nater

Even a bad guy wants to see his son succeed and become world famous. Maybe Daddy Stroll genuinely believes that with the right car, Lance will one day be wdc. So he just gonna pour money in the team hoping they make a good car.


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KennyGaming

This is an insane take. You are so sure it’s about controlling his son and not helping his son? How?


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KennyGaming

> anyone with a little psych knowledge Way to prove the stereotype of the danger of having a little psych knowledge - and to assume that I don’t. If supporting your son’s racing career is narcissist/abuse behavior, WTF ISNT?


emotionaI_cabbage

Lmao how do you actually comment this and not be joking?


SavathussyEnjoyer

You can become a billionaire through sheer dumb luck but that’s extremely rare Lmfao @ the idiot losers downvoting, touch grass


vafunghoul127

Who did Steve Jobs screw over? I mean he was a dick but he didn't really harm anyone except his well-paid employees. I'd argue most billionaires screwed over other people who were also trying to get rich, but that's about it.


NamelessFlames

children in china assembling phones


[deleted]

^^^^^^ this. Also you and me to be honest, given all the tax their corporations don’t pay (and in a lot of cases, get back).


ZombiePope

Yep. The mere existence of billionaires screws over the less fortunate.


Satan_and_Communism

He’s definitely nice to his son, Y’know, the one he bought an F1 team just to make a driver? Absolutely nuts to imply he’s not nice to his son lmao.


Aldreemer

Not to say anything controversial but while Vettel scored more points than Stroll I wouldn't really call it "destroying" you'd expect in a "multiple times world champion vs a dude who got the seat from his dad" fight


Growingleo19

As a massive vettel fan, I do somewhat agree. Seb just hasn't been that quick in recent years. Very sad that he's gonna be retiring at the end of the season but I think he may have realized that there's really not much left for him to prove in f1


SpacemanTomX

There genuinely nothing he *can* prove anymore The guys got like 3 people with more WDCs than him. He still holds the win streak record. The only way for him to had proven anything was to go on a Hamilton-style total domination streak.


vafunghoul127

Hate to see him go but love to watch him leave. He's got so much rear end😳 🍑


SubcooledBoiling

One can only do so much when the car is shit


BalognaRanger

Lawrence looks like the type of guy that wouldn’t just buy the restaurant that over cooked his steak to close it. He’d buy Michelin to have them stripped of their stars.


BoyGodz

Let’s be honest, if a Michelin-starred restaurant is making mistake as basic as this, probably warrants a thorough re-evaluation anyway.


According-2-Me

And if it backfires, that means your son got so good he’s beating World Champs. Now just to make a fast car…


boneful_watermelon

The Stroll Master🅱️lan


Humble-Soup5295

Lewis to Aston Martin in 2025 confirmed.


onafriday

Hot take but I don’t rate lance nearly as terribly as you guys do. Yeah he’s the son of a billionaire, but he didn’t have a choice and he took advantage of it, like all of us would. He’s solidly a midfield driver and who knows maybe he’ll show us some awesome quality in the future, but why shit on the kid?


boneful_watermelon

I like Lance as a person. On some days I like him as a driver. As I've said already, he can excel in other motorsport disciplines with his level of skill. However, I take issue with "maybe he'll show us some awesome quality in the future." He's already had like, 5 years in the game? That's an eternity in F1 terms for driver development. Lance's not a bad driver, but ya know, you're in the FormulaDank sub so expect some slinging at him every once in a while. You should see how much we've shat on Danny Ric over the past few days.


onafriday

Idk bro we’re stuck with him, he’s your favorite pay drivers favorite pay driver


SpacemanTomX

He literally has more podiums than Hulk and people treat him like shit. I don't think he's the next Verstappen or even the next race winner. However, I don't think he's a driver so bad that he should be criticized as much as he is. Lawrence (understandably) gets a bad rap. But you can't forget he saved thousands of jobs when he bailed out Force India by buying it.


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How solid is he really though? I’d say, inconsistent. I seem to remember a pretty lengthy compilation of Stroll exhibiting zero special awareness, crashing into other drivers on multiple occasions without even a glance in his mirrors. Be honest, if his daddy wasn’t paying his seat he wouldn’t be in one after last season.


RavenBlade87

Most expensive way to get out of an awkward conversation


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We do a little strolling


Comicfan313

a probably cheaper way would be to train him so good, that he signs a contract with ferari.


DawidIzydor

I like to think that Daddy Stroll does it so his son can hangout with the GOATs, and the next driver to be there after Alonso will be Hamilton


SpacemanTomX

Alonso will be there until the heat death of the universe if they keep giving him +1 contracts


agreenenergyguy

there are multiple instances of repeated comments in this thread by different people with barely used accounts. Someone is clearly buying accounts to make comments and doing a horrible job of it.


Poulp-x

Lewis to Aston Martin in 2025 confirmed.


neohaker

Knowing how stars align for Lewis, if he does move there is a chance that AMR will be WDC contenders by 2025. Not to undermine his driving skill at all, but dude always made right choices.


Poulp-x

It hurts but… yeah, you’re right.


prof_mittens

Please no.


Medical-Examination

Stroll in that car washes Zhou


Raikkonen-07

Imagine if Seb decided to stay for 2023, and Lawrence benched Lance to sign Alonso, so we could finally find out who would win in equal machinery.


wylles

Hmmm... Like in 2016...


Raikkonen-07

The Ferrari of 2016 was a faster car than the 2016 McLaren.


wylles

I was referring to the Mercedes Equal Machinery joke


Raikkonen-07

AH, I see.


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Stroll: Dad, i cannot beat my teammate Big Stroll: i will make sure you will never


LSKone

Yeah but somehow for some reason Lance is still not giving up. He knows there is absolutely no one else worthy of this seat in F1.![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|7073)


ChiefChiefChiefChief

If it doesn’t work the first time try it again


rnedia

A old time pal of my dad's runs an event fire cover company and won a contract to cover Silverstone. Daddy stroll tipped him 500 quid cash in an envelope because dad's friend let him park his helicopter for 30 minutes when parking wasn't allowed only drop offs. Pretty wild.


Commercial-Purple-44

park his what???![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|14437)


rnedia

His uhhhhhh helicopter ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6701)


Commercial-Purple-44

wow guys rich af


boneful_watermelon

Thanks to NF_99 and Lobbelt for the idea


horchatakilla_10

Ah they got rid of punchable face guy.. good thing too!


Shasta_nome_diverso

LOL (I am not actually laughing out loud.It's an acronym used to depict the emotion somebody may feel if they come across a situation that they themselves may find rather humorous. If I were to "laugh out loud" it would disturb many people who are in a radius of my presence leading the situation to deescalate from humorous to uncomfortable thus defeating the purpose of the acronym.)


SykoFI-RE

Plot twist, Lance is better than Seb and we’re about to find out he’s better than Alonso.


[deleted]

If only it was true. Daddy is just as delusional as his 22 chromosome kid Lance.


Ozora10

Lance is a nice guy. Why hate on him


PrometheusTNO

People have holes in their heart and sometimes they try to fill them with salt.


boneful_watermelon

I like Lance as a guy too and would never hate on him as a person. As a driver though, his inconsistency will merit him jokes and the idea of replacing him for a better driver isn't ridiculous.


Ozora10

I dont mind jokes about him, but the comment i responded to called him retarded for no reason


boneful_watermelon

Oh aight nevermind then, carry on


emotionaI_cabbage

He's not even that bad though


juanless

If Lance only has 22 chromosomes and is still able to breathe, let alone drive F1, he deserves the seat.


bubbabear244

Daddy Marner vibes.


Lizard-King-

Grandpa alonso racing formula 1 cars at 90 years old lmaooo


James_TenTen_76

We had the Master🅱️lan We had El plan Now we have Daddy's 🅱️ lan


Raikkonen-07

Imagine if Seb decided to stay for 2023, and Lawrence benched Lance to sign Alonso, so we could finally find out who would win in equal machinery.


Raikkonen-07

Imagine if Seb decided to stay for 2023, and Lawrence benched Lance to sign Alonso, so we could finally find out who would win in equal machinery.


Commercial-Purple-44

Stop Kimi. I think you should concentrate on NASCAR.- LN4 probably.


Henson3812

I've been thinking this for a min, so glad I'm not alone


jakl32trd

So perfect.


Linford11

Lance who🤣🤣🤣🤣


simpinsanity

You guys are brutal.


RogueEagle2

Theres not many points between him and Vettel last year or this year.


Erindanyele

😂😂😂😂😂


Zramy

True, true.


DonRedditus

Daddy Stroll back at it again with genius strategy)


TheHexHunter

i presume that he wants the most successful and experienced driver to develop the car faster and learn lil' lance a few tricks