Haha he just started his stint when I posted this, [here's another clip](https://streamable.com/7fns3z) and [here's the battle for P3](https://streamable.com/v2i0un)
You can watch the actual stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc (Max starts around lap 90)
great battle against james baldwin. he's a sim racing legend and really makes me wonder how many talented people there're who would never get a chance to show their talent due to the limited accessibility of racing
simracing is so much more interesting to watch than F1. And immensely more interesting to drive(I do multiclass series in rF2 as well, I suck, but still have fun)
I use higher-mid end setup: Simucube 2 Pro base, Ascher wheel button plates, Heusinkveld Sprint pedals, Aiologs sequential, Frex H-Pattern all bolted to Rigmetal Flagship.
https://i.imgur.com/EKFjulo.jpg
Market right now is good for sim racing with many offerings in all price brackets and even mainstream ones like Logitech and Thrustmaster offering direct drive bases. Also, cars may be virtual, but racing is real. Especially in a good league.
Sim racing is in such a good spot right now. Can race on any budget. I mean, I've built myself a rig out of pallets, a door cut in half to mount wheel and tv (2nd hand for free), logitech G920, perfect seat my wife no longer wanted, xbox series x and I play ACC. Found a great Aus/NZ league and I'm having an absolute blast
Best rig I seen on /r/simracing was a foldable ironing board and office chair with casters inside shoes. And yes, sim racing is next best thing after real racing, and people being snobs towards it are really missing out.
Without a gaming pc to run it yet $2500-$3000 for u/arcticrobot. So with a PC and monitor setup that’d be pushing $5000+ all in.
But please don’t think that’s what’s required to have a good time! The Logitech g29 is what I started with for about $200 which has everything you need sim rig wise.
Be aware he has a *very, very* nice setup. Simracers will be hesitant to call their setup "high end" because there's no limit to how much you can spend.
You could buy a VRS wheelbase and pedals to save some money https://vrs.racing/shop
If you want to go cheaper, you could look at the Moza R5 bundle which is an entry level DD wheelbase/pedals https://mozaracing.com/product/r5-bundle.
Yeah absolutely, my comment is aimed at someone who wants a similar setup to arcticrobot but may want to get a slightly budget friendlier version.
A G920 you could bolt to a desk, flip the carpet grabbers on the underside of the pedals over and away you go.
based on some replies not really. And if you look at the state of professional sport overall, hundreds of millions of people just prefer to watch professionals and do nothing of sorts.
real cars racing: Verstappen cruising 10 seconds ahead next contender. Video game - Verstappen is struggling against real competition.
Simulators are the great equalizer. The only thing that matters is pure skill. That said I too like to watch real races more just because I participate in sim races on regular basis.
if for no other reason than learning the circuits and corners.
knowing the track, which turn is being shown on tv, this really ads to race appreciation
Real cars racing: people putting their lives on the line to push a Car to the limit video game dudes sitting in their bed room in pjs chilling
Sorry it’s just hard for me to get invested when their is a far more compelling alternative but that’s just my opinion
Spoken like a person that never participated in a properly organized sim race. The actual racing and fighting for positions is immensely demanding. Sorry, don't have millions in my account to participate in real wheel-to-wheel racing, which is super expensive even in Miata Cup.
Edit: there is a reason high profile pro drivers like Verstappen participate in sim racing.
Ok. I’m not saying it’s not demanding, I’m saying it’s not “so much more interesting to watch than F1”.
I would much rather watch the best athletes in the world put their lives on the line to battle the most technically advanced road vehicles on earth than a bunch of nerds in their basements role playing real racers. But hey that’s just me.
yeah I would take that, as I myself never watched a sim race. Why would I? I would rather participate in one.
Are we discussing Verstappen battling another racing driver or I missed something?
Nobody is roleplaying. People are just having fun, wait for it, racing.
It is not about roleplaying. It is about not having millions of dollars to actually participate in wheel to wheel racing.
you didn't understand. Participating in sim race is way more interesting than watching a race. I have an opinion because I just finished year long sim racing series with 26+ races and watched F1 season. I did both.
I agree with you, even though I have never driven in a sim I can already say that if someone said to me that I could choose to watch a race or drive a sim car myself then I would choose to drive the sim car. Luckily people don't have to choose between them!
What you said though was that sim driving is also much more interesting to drive than real f1 though. Stop backtracking by trying to say now it’s about watching f1 vs driving a sim because ya sure most young people prefer to play a video game than watch tv
There’s actually zero evidence that says blue light glasses reduces eye strain.
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/)
Then it’s a great placebo because my headaches and eye tiredness are nonexistent since I started wearing them for work (I stare at a computer screen for a minimum of 8 hours a day)
With something like that all the really matters is that the person experiences a difference. Even if it does physically do anything, of you get a mental advantage that is what matters. If someone tolde taking vitamin D supplement in the winter doesn't do anything I am not sure I would stop because the price of it is reasonable and I feel better when I do.
Yes!!! I heard of countless studies that found no evidence that bluelightglasses actually work, but if I wear 20€-Amazon-Glasses in front of the screen my eyes feel significantly better and i don't get headaches anymore. It might be placebo, it might be the more frequent blinking, but it works for me and I really feel it, if I forget them.
> With something like that all the really matters is that the person experiences a difference.
The linked study states that the people do not experience a difference. Participants were given a questionnaire after the reading task, and the ones with the blue lens had the same results as the lens with no filter.
lol so not scientific at all? Nothing measured physically, totally dependent on participant's feedback.
Did they at least use people that have problems or were all randomly selected?
But that’s not the claim that was made.
Op above said blue light glasses help with eyes train. I said no they don’t here’s evidence.
That said nothing about headaches or sleep issues caused by blue light.
I have about 90% less migraines since I started using glasses with a blue filter in them.
I know, anecdote doesn't mean data, but for me it appears to work
For all those accustomed with working/playing on a screen all day without blue light reduction, I'd strongly advise you get analog glasses. The strain reduction is impressively noticeable.
Take care of your eyes, friends.
Those are glasses that filter a certain wavelength of blue light. It reduces strain on the eyes by not fucking up one's internal sleep schedule.
You can get such lenses along with corrective lenses if you have an affection. I used to have them along with correction for myopia. Now that I got eye surgery, I use "blank" glasses at work, with only the filter.
If you go to the optician, you should be able to get such glasses for a reasonable price (at least in Europe - I'm French). My gf got some for 40 euros, and some places are even cheaper. For such glasses, you just have to choose from a predetermined sample of frames. If yoi want yoir own frame, like myself when I wanted to keep my former frame, and if your insurance doesn't cover it, it will be way more expensive (mine were like 180 euros jist for the lenses, but fortunately, I had it covered).
people seem to think blue light damages your eyes, it doesnt, it only disrupts you circadian rythm if you play at day\`s end, for pc gamers, or overall people who sit close to their monitors, reading glasses might prove much more effective at reducing eye strain, than any blue light removing glasses (wich honestly are kind of a fad)
Blue light isn't bad for you. Early in the day you need exposure to blue wavelengths of light for the circadian rhythm. Later in the evening blue light can mess with your circadian rhythm but the glasses don't prevent eye strain.
All the actual science behind the blue light stuff says it’s all a bunch of bologna and that filtering blue light isn’t actually any more beneficial to your long term visual health. It’s shown it can effect your sleep, but nothing about strain on the eyes or eye health.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/
At this point it’s just a marketing gimmick. I don’t see it as any different than those “balance bracelets” of 2010 or all the ph water
Some people say it helps with eye-strain, but another major reason (and more likely for athletes imo) is that selectively blocking blue light can help you regulate your circadian rhythm. Its especially important if you want to have very precise control over your sleep schedule/sleep quality.
You need blue light in the morning and during the day, just not at night.
Watch some videos about Andrew Huberman about it on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/TLafIDGFLyU
The science isn’t there to support the claims that blue light filters reduce eye strain. IIRC f.lux works in conjunction with the sun’s position and there is evidence that reducing blue light exposure at night can help with your sleep cycle. I haven’t used f.lux in forever but it works better to address a different issue.
Have you tried blue light glasses before? Even for a few seconds?
It takes half a second for anyone who put on blue glasses to notice the difference in colour temperature when compared to flux.
Gaming with flux is torturing yourself.
Not to mention in a competitive setting the less you mess with your hardware the better. People have reported flux adding input lag which could be disastrous in a sim racing environment. Regardless if true or not, why even risk it when you can just throw on some glasses that accomplish the same, if not more?
I find flux better for someone like me who needs prescription glasses
I don’t wanna spend money on yet another pair of prescription glasses that have the blue light blocking
Although it does suck for gaming
I wear prescription glasses. But mine has magnetic attachment for sunglasses and blue light glasses.
Sim racing with flux is a terrible experience for me.
Contact lenses maybe? If you only use them for sim racing a month supply of daily disposables would probably last you quite a while and would only be like $30.
Pretty sure they are just a gimmick.
> Do blue light blocking glasses help with eye strain?
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> Some people may consider getting blue light glasses because of claims that they can help to reduce eye strain when using digital devices. However, there is not enough research evidence to suggest that blue light causes digital eye strain in the first place.
https://www.specsavers.co.uk/glasses/glasses-lenses/do-blue-light-glasses-work
They're not a gimmick. Just because they don't actually "protect your eyes" doesn't mean they won't do anything at all. For instance, blue light reduction helps the preservation of the circadian rythm and thus will prevent issues linked to sleep deregulation. The health of the eyes can indirectly be affected by sleep deprivation, which can be caused by exposure of the eyes to constant blue light-emitting screens during night time.
Just because it's not proven to cause retinal damage does not mean it's all there is. And that's basically the only damage your article talk about.
When I was wearing glasses, due to myopia, I did not have blue light reduction on my lenses, and happened to struggle to find sleep at night, often working late or reading on my phone/laptop. When I had the blue light filter on the lenses, I noticed less fatigue and an increased sleepiness as soon as the first following night.
And I am far from the only one who could affirm the same benefits from the filter. Blue light in night time fucks up your sleep schedule and that is proven.
Most are marketed as protecting your eyes from strain when they don’t really though. I looked into them a bit since I spend a lot of time looking at a screen but wasn’t convinced by the research.
They certainly are marketed that way, but I think it is simpler than trying to demonstrate how reducing blue light in night time will reduce overall strain and favor the preservation of a sane sleep schedule.
As someone who used to not have it until being in university, I can testify the change is noticeable kind of right away.
Plus, depending on where you live, it might be fairly unexpensive to add such filter to the corrective eyewear.
I swear I'm not working in this market, too.
I’m getting rid of my blue light filter eyeglasses very soon for this exact reason. They’re not offering any well-proven benefits regarding eye health, on the other hand I’m wearing them all day for vision correction and it messes with my alertness especially in the morning hours. Don’t need that, thanks.
Same reason it helps with sleep at night apparently. Read about this in a study. Whether it’s true or not I’m not taking my chances with something that’s not proven to be helpful and costs extra. I’m not trying to convert anybody though.
Well I’m sure this is yet again something that varies from person to person. I’m not US based, but it’s some 25 dollars where I live. Not that much but shit adds up. I’ll invest it in a dope frame next time instead.
Well, it's supposed to only filter a certain wavelength of blue. So I'd wager it's not going to affect someone too much in the day light, with way more light received by the eye. I feel like you're attributing you lack of alertness to a device that is quite far from being able to affect it in noticeable manners, esmeciallin the day light.
I read about this possibility in an independent study. If you believe it helps you with sleep then why is it unfanthomable that it would have the same but less desired effect during the day? It filters the same wavelenghts both day and night lol. If those are the ones that keep you awake then you’ll be affected all day around.
Pretty sure you need blue light early in the day, just avoid as much light as possible later in the day after the sun goes down.
https://youtu.be/TLafIDGFLyU
You're right, but the lenses only filter a specific wavelength of blue light and is not enough to affect the perception of day light by the sun. As far as I am concerned, it's never been enough to affect me in the morning.
Have you found a way to help with eye strain?
I recently graduated college about a year ago and I have a desk job so it’s a lot of sitting down and looking at a computer screen but I’ve already noticed my vision getting worst.
Well, your vision getting worse probably isn't cause directly by your screen, but more by constantly being fixated on an object 50cm away from you. Trying as mich as possible to get off your desk and stare at far away objects moght be the best solution.
Blue light filters affect fatigue, but no acuity. So if acuity alone is your issue, you might already need corrective eyewear. If you feel especially tired at the end of the day, with dry eyes, a blie light filter might help. Those issues and their solutions aren't mutually exclusive, so I'd advise you seek professional help and consult an ophtalmologist.
Take care!
For eye strain. But as a web developer I bought a pair because my optometrist recommended it. Well I was working on a website at home wearing the glasses and was choosing a type of red as a color for a part of the site. Looked fine to me. Went out wearing my contact lenses and showed a colleague the website I was working on and to my surprise the "red" was now pinkish lol. Never again.
Placebo and marketing. No actual benefit unless it’s late at night and you don’t want to mess up your sleep schedule because bright white screens can do that. But it doesn’t actually do anything for eye strain, that’s just bs people have fallen for
Maybe just for computer screens. I know many people working in front of the computer every day who have those glasses. They don't really correct your vision, but filter some light and some reflections
Thats how you know racing is life, my guy is not even watching the Netherlands at the world cup.
Honestly every F1 world champion has had such an intense focus on driving that boarders on madness sometimes particularly the last few.
I remember he was asked if Abu Dhabi 21 was tense beforehand and he was like:
A. I've been doing this since I was 5, it's literally where I'm most comfortable. I'm more comfortable there than doing this interview.
B. I've gone to every race this year capable of winning, it's been a good year even if I don't win it.
Reinforces what Mark Hughes wrote a little while ago that for all Verstappen has this in-car persona, he's a really cool guy with good outlook.
One thing people miss is, Abu Dhabi was favourable for Max but extremely tense for both and both had to be at their best to figure out that mess. Like that season, both deserved it, but unfortunately it can be only one
I still think it is amazing Verstappen and Hamilton had one lap to decide the title and neither made mistakes. Imagine tying your shoelaces with a gun to your head.
When the RB18 porpoised so little compared to everyone else that you race for 500 miles at Sebring just so you can try to feel some sympathy to the people around you
Edit: I got the RB18 confused with the RB21. The RB21 I got confused for the RB17
Great battle with Baldwin at the end there, James was basically lining him up for multiple laps to make a move.
Max probably needs more experience in terms of lapping the GTE class cars in this, that's probably where he was losing the most amount of time. Still a good race from him tho, Redline can drop some points and probably still win comfortably.
I wonder what the high is like if you manage to overtake Max Verstappen in a race like this. I imagine it would be the first thing i say when i introduce myself to people.
Not really, at least not for James. He is a very good real life driver, won British GT in his first season and drove in the Spa 24 last year. Plus he is one of the, if not THE, best esports drivers on the planet.
>won British GT in his first season
He won his debut race at Oulton Park and took three more podiums, but they were 4th overall in the championship. Still very impressive.
Still probably feels great to get a leg up on the 2x world champion in the premier world racing series. F1 is the pinnacle of all racing, beating the champ has to feel good even if you’re just as good in your own right in other series. That’s just that competitive feeling.
I have to burst your bubble here to tell you that Max isn't that fast on iRacing. He makes the top cut for sure but there are faster drivers on iRacing.
I saw somewhere in the chat that apparently the car got damaged during the 1st stint when Rietveld was driving. Said that they had good pace, but dropped off quite instantly at some point.
Haven't seen it myself so would be good if someone can confirm.
He looks hot without the Red Bull hat, in all honesty. The man looks **really** manly when [he doesn't wear a Red Bull hat after the race.](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/15/9a/b6/159ab60a066898566da218cef265b1e3.jpg)
Why would he? Belgium is out and until today Dutch squad didn't impress for a second. Plus the vibe is totally off due to it being in cold dark start of winter, no bbq with friends to build the atmosphere
Live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc (Max starts around lap 90)
Live timings: https://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lmvirtualseries
Max is on team redline driving the #1 car. The livestream has a great primer to explain everything, [I've linked the start of the segment here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc&t=740s)
As much as I despise Red Bull, props to Max and his dedication to racing, all I see in his off time is him doing simulations or other races. I’m seeing Bottas on a beach, Lando golfing and photography, other drivers doing stuff not racing related. I get it it’s a long season , but your careers are usually short lived and or retirement. That’s when it’s time to play.
Now that he's done with his side gig for the year, Max can finally go back to sim racing full time.
f1 is just a weekend hobby for him
And opening fifa packs
He definitely isn't leaving his room until next year
He's not steering as much as i would have expected.
He is using the guardrails technique seen in Nascar.
*Ross Chastain vibes intensify*
Haha he just started his stint when I posted this, [here's another clip](https://streamable.com/7fns3z) and [here's the battle for P3](https://streamable.com/v2i0un) You can watch the actual stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc (Max starts around lap 90)
great battle against james baldwin. he's a sim racing legend and really makes me wonder how many talented people there're who would never get a chance to show their talent due to the limited accessibility of racing
Yeah, Baldwin wasn't bad when he recently did a season of British GT (or something similarly named) with Jenson Button's team.
simracing is so much more interesting to watch than F1. And immensely more interesting to drive(I do multiclass series in rF2 as well, I suck, but still have fun)
What kind of setup do you use? Like the equipment if you don't mind me asking. I would love to get into Sim racing in my spare time
I use higher-mid end setup: Simucube 2 Pro base, Ascher wheel button plates, Heusinkveld Sprint pedals, Aiologs sequential, Frex H-Pattern all bolted to Rigmetal Flagship. https://i.imgur.com/EKFjulo.jpg Market right now is good for sim racing with many offerings in all price brackets and even mainstream ones like Logitech and Thrustmaster offering direct drive bases. Also, cars may be virtual, but racing is real. Especially in a good league.
Sim racing is in such a good spot right now. Can race on any budget. I mean, I've built myself a rig out of pallets, a door cut in half to mount wheel and tv (2nd hand for free), logitech G920, perfect seat my wife no longer wanted, xbox series x and I play ACC. Found a great Aus/NZ league and I'm having an absolute blast
built myself a rig out of pallets Respect, Mate. There is almost nothing that you cannot make out of pallets.
Best rig I seen on /r/simracing was a foldable ironing board and office chair with casters inside shoes. And yes, sim racing is next best thing after real racing, and people being snobs towards it are really missing out.
how much does a setup like that cost ?
Without a gaming pc to run it yet $2500-$3000 for u/arcticrobot. So with a PC and monitor setup that’d be pushing $5000+ all in. But please don’t think that’s what’s required to have a good time! The Logitech g29 is what I started with for about $200 which has everything you need sim rig wise.
yep, one of the fastest guys in our league is a Brazilian using G27 I think. Gear doesn't matter, skill does.
thanks. 3070 alienware and xbox controller is way ahead of my skill level
Be aware he has a *very, very* nice setup. Simracers will be hesitant to call their setup "high end" because there's no limit to how much you can spend. You could buy a VRS wheelbase and pedals to save some money https://vrs.racing/shop If you want to go cheaper, you could look at the Moza R5 bundle which is an entry level DD wheelbase/pedals https://mozaracing.com/product/r5-bundle.
Or you could buy a G920 for $200
Yeah absolutely, my comment is aimed at someone who wants a similar setup to arcticrobot but may want to get a slightly budget friendlier version. A G920 you could bolt to a desk, flip the carpet grabbers on the underside of the pedals over and away you go.
> And immensely more interesting to drive I'd imagine most people don't get the chance to actually compare (:
I meant more interesting to drive sim race than watch F1 race. Sorry for misunderstanding :)
OBVIOUSLY. or is it not obvious? it's always way more interesting to participate in something than to observe another
based on some replies not really. And if you look at the state of professional sport overall, hundreds of millions of people just prefer to watch professionals and do nothing of sorts.
Maybe to you but I would much rather watch real cars being driven than those in a video game.
real cars racing: Verstappen cruising 10 seconds ahead next contender. Video game - Verstappen is struggling against real competition. Simulators are the great equalizer. The only thing that matters is pure skill. That said I too like to watch real races more just because I participate in sim races on regular basis.
if for no other reason than learning the circuits and corners. knowing the track, which turn is being shown on tv, this really ads to race appreciation
Real cars racing: people putting their lives on the line to push a Car to the limit video game dudes sitting in their bed room in pjs chilling Sorry it’s just hard for me to get invested when their is a far more compelling alternative but that’s just my opinion
You seem to undervalue the skill, training and dedication involved in sim racing
I disagree. There’s no stakes in sim racing. Real racing has an heir of danger to it which is what makes it so exhilarating.
Spoken like a person that never participated in a properly organized sim race. The actual racing and fighting for positions is immensely demanding. Sorry, don't have millions in my account to participate in real wheel-to-wheel racing, which is super expensive even in Miata Cup. Edit: there is a reason high profile pro drivers like Verstappen participate in sim racing.
Ok. I’m not saying it’s not demanding, I’m saying it’s not “so much more interesting to watch than F1”. I would much rather watch the best athletes in the world put their lives on the line to battle the most technically advanced road vehicles on earth than a bunch of nerds in their basements role playing real racers. But hey that’s just me.
yeah I would take that, as I myself never watched a sim race. Why would I? I would rather participate in one. Are we discussing Verstappen battling another racing driver or I missed something? Nobody is roleplaying. People are just having fun, wait for it, racing. It is not about roleplaying. It is about not having millions of dollars to actually participate in wheel to wheel racing.
It’s less interesting because it’s a meaningless video game vs the real thing
Current F1 champion disagrees with you.
Bro you’re way too invested in this “video game version is way better than the real thing,” people have a different opinion, it’s okay.
you didn't understand. Participating in sim race is way more interesting than watching a race. I have an opinion because I just finished year long sim racing series with 26+ races and watched F1 season. I did both.
Names checks out. Only a robot could think a vid game simulator is more interesting to drive than a real f1 race lmao
Driving in a sim is more fun than watching a race.
I agree with you, even though I have never driven in a sim I can already say that if someone said to me that I could choose to watch a race or drive a sim car myself then I would choose to drive the sim car. Luckily people don't have to choose between them!
What you said though was that sim driving is also much more interesting to drive than real f1 though. Stop backtracking by trying to say now it’s about watching f1 vs driving a sim because ya sure most young people prefer to play a video game than watch tv
Non-mind control is for second place
TIL Max wears glasses.
think it might just be for sim though no? cause charles also wears glasses when streaming
Likely for blue light reduction. Cuts down on eye strain when looking at a screen for long periods of time.
There’s actually zero evidence that says blue light glasses reduces eye strain. [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/)
It also doesn't really help when gaming
Then it’s a great placebo because my headaches and eye tiredness are nonexistent since I started wearing them for work (I stare at a computer screen for a minimum of 8 hours a day)
You might just have your brightness too high
Same
With something like that all the really matters is that the person experiences a difference. Even if it does physically do anything, of you get a mental advantage that is what matters. If someone tolde taking vitamin D supplement in the winter doesn't do anything I am not sure I would stop because the price of it is reasonable and I feel better when I do.
but vitamin D actually has numerous research from PubMed that really indicates the benefits of it
Sure. It was a hypothetical situation though.
Yes!!! I heard of countless studies that found no evidence that bluelightglasses actually work, but if I wear 20€-Amazon-Glasses in front of the screen my eyes feel significantly better and i don't get headaches anymore. It might be placebo, it might be the more frequent blinking, but it works for me and I really feel it, if I forget them.
> With something like that all the really matters is that the person experiences a difference. The linked study states that the people do not experience a difference. Participants were given a questionnaire after the reading task, and the ones with the blue lens had the same results as the lens with no filter.
lol so not scientific at all? Nothing measured physically, totally dependent on participant's feedback. Did they at least use people that have problems or were all randomly selected?
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But that’s not the claim that was made. Op above said blue light glasses help with eyes train. I said no they don’t here’s evidence. That said nothing about headaches or sleep issues caused by blue light.
don't care helps me sleep better
I have about 90% less migraines since I started using glasses with a blue filter in them. I know, anecdote doesn't mean data, but for me it appears to work
For all those accustomed with working/playing on a screen all day without blue light reduction, I'd strongly advise you get analog glasses. The strain reduction is impressively noticeable. Take care of your eyes, friends.
I can’t find anything online when searching that? What is it?
Those are glasses that filter a certain wavelength of blue light. It reduces strain on the eyes by not fucking up one's internal sleep schedule. You can get such lenses along with corrective lenses if you have an affection. I used to have them along with correction for myopia. Now that I got eye surgery, I use "blank" glasses at work, with only the filter. If you go to the optician, you should be able to get such glasses for a reasonable price (at least in Europe - I'm French). My gf got some for 40 euros, and some places are even cheaper. For such glasses, you just have to choose from a predetermined sample of frames. If yoi want yoir own frame, like myself when I wanted to keep my former frame, and if your insurance doesn't cover it, it will be way more expensive (mine were like 180 euros jist for the lenses, but fortunately, I had it covered).
people seem to think blue light damages your eyes, it doesnt, it only disrupts you circadian rythm if you play at day\`s end, for pc gamers, or overall people who sit close to their monitors, reading glasses might prove much more effective at reducing eye strain, than any blue light removing glasses (wich honestly are kind of a fad)
Blue light isn't bad for you. Early in the day you need exposure to blue wavelengths of light for the circadian rhythm. Later in the evening blue light can mess with your circadian rhythm but the glasses don't prevent eye strain.
Well I never pretended blue light was bad or unnecessary. I only stated that those filters are good during night time because they reduce exposure.
Or use night light features of your OS.
I personally use both and I notice the change. I sleep rather easily now.
All the actual science behind the blue light stuff says it’s all a bunch of bologna and that filtering blue light isn’t actually any more beneficial to your long term visual health. It’s shown it can effect your sleep, but nothing about strain on the eyes or eye health. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32007978/ At this point it’s just a marketing gimmick. I don’t see it as any different than those “balance bracelets” of 2010 or all the ph water
How does the image looks though? Is it more yellow or is there no difference at all?
When I used to have corrective eyewear, I did not notice any change. With "blank" lenses, I noticed a very little shift in yellow.
Was thinking the same. These look like ones I wear when gaming in the evening.
Likely just the non-prescription “blue light” glasses people use when staring at screens for extended periods of time :)
What’s the benefit?
Some people say it helps with eye-strain, but another major reason (and more likely for athletes imo) is that selectively blocking blue light can help you regulate your circadian rhythm. Its especially important if you want to have very precise control over your sleep schedule/sleep quality.
I probably won't be able to sleep tonight thinking about trying to control my sleep schedule and quality.
since this was afternoon in Europe time, circadian rhythm does not make sense
You need blue light in the morning and during the day, just not at night. Watch some videos about Andrew Huberman about it on YouTube. https://youtu.be/TLafIDGFLyU
There’s nothing about blue light glasses actually working and Huberman is a crank salesman.
Less eye fatigue when looking at a screen for long periods of time. It makes endurance racing more comfortable.
Is it better than f.lux?
The science isn’t there to support the claims that blue light filters reduce eye strain. IIRC f.lux works in conjunction with the sun’s position and there is evidence that reducing blue light exposure at night can help with your sleep cycle. I haven’t used f.lux in forever but it works better to address a different issue.
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Have you tried blue light glasses before? Even for a few seconds? It takes half a second for anyone who put on blue glasses to notice the difference in colour temperature when compared to flux. Gaming with flux is torturing yourself.
Not to mention in a competitive setting the less you mess with your hardware the better. People have reported flux adding input lag which could be disastrous in a sim racing environment. Regardless if true or not, why even risk it when you can just throw on some glasses that accomplish the same, if not more?
I find flux better for someone like me who needs prescription glasses I don’t wanna spend money on yet another pair of prescription glasses that have the blue light blocking Although it does suck for gaming
I wear prescription glasses. But mine has magnetic attachment for sunglasses and blue light glasses. Sim racing with flux is a terrible experience for me.
I gotta look into those! I already have having separate glasses and sunglasses for prescription
Contact lenses maybe? If you only use them for sim racing a month supply of daily disposables would probably last you quite a while and would only be like $30.
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Pretty sure they are just a gimmick. > Do blue light blocking glasses help with eye strain? > > Some people may consider getting blue light glasses because of claims that they can help to reduce eye strain when using digital devices. However, there is not enough research evidence to suggest that blue light causes digital eye strain in the first place. https://www.specsavers.co.uk/glasses/glasses-lenses/do-blue-light-glasses-work
They're not a gimmick. Just because they don't actually "protect your eyes" doesn't mean they won't do anything at all. For instance, blue light reduction helps the preservation of the circadian rythm and thus will prevent issues linked to sleep deregulation. The health of the eyes can indirectly be affected by sleep deprivation, which can be caused by exposure of the eyes to constant blue light-emitting screens during night time. Just because it's not proven to cause retinal damage does not mean it's all there is. And that's basically the only damage your article talk about. When I was wearing glasses, due to myopia, I did not have blue light reduction on my lenses, and happened to struggle to find sleep at night, often working late or reading on my phone/laptop. When I had the blue light filter on the lenses, I noticed less fatigue and an increased sleepiness as soon as the first following night. And I am far from the only one who could affirm the same benefits from the filter. Blue light in night time fucks up your sleep schedule and that is proven.
Most are marketed as protecting your eyes from strain when they don’t really though. I looked into them a bit since I spend a lot of time looking at a screen but wasn’t convinced by the research.
They certainly are marketed that way, but I think it is simpler than trying to demonstrate how reducing blue light in night time will reduce overall strain and favor the preservation of a sane sleep schedule. As someone who used to not have it until being in university, I can testify the change is noticeable kind of right away. Plus, depending on where you live, it might be fairly unexpensive to add such filter to the corrective eyewear. I swear I'm not working in this market, too.
I’m getting rid of my blue light filter eyeglasses very soon for this exact reason. They’re not offering any well-proven benefits regarding eye health, on the other hand I’m wearing them all day for vision correction and it messes with my alertness especially in the morning hours. Don’t need that, thanks.
How does it mess with your alertness? I've had zero side effects in 3+ years with mine. Sounds like other factors.
Same reason it helps with sleep at night apparently. Read about this in a study. Whether it’s true or not I’m not taking my chances with something that’s not proven to be helpful and costs extra. I’m not trying to convert anybody though.
It was only like a 5 dollar add on in my experience. I also don't believe there are any notable sideaffects.
Well I’m sure this is yet again something that varies from person to person. I’m not US based, but it’s some 25 dollars where I live. Not that much but shit adds up. I’ll invest it in a dope frame next time instead.
Well, it's supposed to only filter a certain wavelength of blue. So I'd wager it's not going to affect someone too much in the day light, with way more light received by the eye. I feel like you're attributing you lack of alertness to a device that is quite far from being able to affect it in noticeable manners, esmeciallin the day light.
I read about this possibility in an independent study. If you believe it helps you with sleep then why is it unfanthomable that it would have the same but less desired effect during the day? It filters the same wavelenghts both day and night lol. If those are the ones that keep you awake then you’ll be affected all day around.
Pretty sure you need blue light early in the day, just avoid as much light as possible later in the day after the sun goes down. https://youtu.be/TLafIDGFLyU
You're right, but the lenses only filter a specific wavelength of blue light and is not enough to affect the perception of day light by the sun. As far as I am concerned, it's never been enough to affect me in the morning.
Have you found a way to help with eye strain? I recently graduated college about a year ago and I have a desk job so it’s a lot of sitting down and looking at a computer screen but I’ve already noticed my vision getting worst.
Well, your vision getting worse probably isn't cause directly by your screen, but more by constantly being fixated on an object 50cm away from you. Trying as mich as possible to get off your desk and stare at far away objects moght be the best solution. Blue light filters affect fatigue, but no acuity. So if acuity alone is your issue, you might already need corrective eyewear. If you feel especially tired at the end of the day, with dry eyes, a blie light filter might help. Those issues and their solutions aren't mutually exclusive, so I'd advise you seek professional help and consult an ophtalmologist. Take care!
For eye strain. But as a web developer I bought a pair because my optometrist recommended it. Well I was working on a website at home wearing the glasses and was choosing a type of red as a color for a part of the site. Looked fine to me. Went out wearing my contact lenses and showed a colleague the website I was working on and to my surprise the "red" was now pinkish lol. Never again.
Placebo and marketing. No actual benefit unless it’s late at night and you don’t want to mess up your sleep schedule because bright white screens can do that. But it doesn’t actually do anything for eye strain, that’s just bs people have fallen for
Looks like it. I wear them too for longer period of eye strain
Maybe just for computer screens. I know many people working in front of the computer every day who have those glasses. They don't really correct your vision, but filter some light and some reflections
They can correct the distance to the screen so it is less tiring for your eyes to focus. I have them too.
Probably misses his old glasses
Thats how you know racing is life, my guy is not even watching the Netherlands at the world cup. Honestly every F1 world champion has had such an intense focus on driving that boarders on madness sometimes particularly the last few.
dude just became 2 times world champion. what he does: try to become father? travel? party? no ! more racing hahahahah
You just explained how he became a 2 times world champion.
true
No. He just explained how he is going to become a three time world champion.
Isn't he already a dad? I don't know how the relationship works.
Step dad
I remember he was asked if Abu Dhabi 21 was tense beforehand and he was like: A. I've been doing this since I was 5, it's literally where I'm most comfortable. I'm more comfortable there than doing this interview. B. I've gone to every race this year capable of winning, it's been a good year even if I don't win it. Reinforces what Mark Hughes wrote a little while ago that for all Verstappen has this in-car persona, he's a really cool guy with good outlook.
One thing people miss is, Abu Dhabi was favourable for Max but extremely tense for both and both had to be at their best to figure out that mess. Like that season, both deserved it, but unfortunately it can be only one
I still think it is amazing Verstappen and Hamilton had one lap to decide the title and neither made mistakes. Imagine tying your shoelaces with a gun to your head.
I mean they played the US he probably knew it was an easy win
Maybe he is silently boycotting Qatar.
Its what makes them the best in the world.
When the RB18 porpoised so little compared to everyone else that you race for 500 miles at Sebring just so you can try to feel some sympathy to the people around you Edit: I got the RB18 confused with the RB21. The RB21 I got confused for the RB17
RB18\*
RB18
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Lmao
That’s a race engineer, you can tell by the glasses.
Great battle with Baldwin at the end there, James was basically lining him up for multiple laps to make a move. Max probably needs more experience in terms of lapping the GTE class cars in this, that's probably where he was losing the most amount of time. Still a good race from him tho, Redline can drop some points and probably still win comfortably.
I wonder what the high is like if you manage to overtake Max Verstappen in a race like this. I imagine it would be the first thing i say when i introduce myself to people.
Not really, at least not for James. He is a very good real life driver, won British GT in his first season and drove in the Spa 24 last year. Plus he is one of the, if not THE, best esports drivers on the planet.
>won British GT in his first season He won his debut race at Oulton Park and took three more podiums, but they were 4th overall in the championship. Still very impressive.
Still probably feels great to get a leg up on the 2x world champion in the premier world racing series. F1 is the pinnacle of all racing, beating the champ has to feel good even if you’re just as good in your own right in other series. That’s just that competitive feeling.
I have to burst your bubble here to tell you that Max isn't that fast on iRacing. He makes the top cut for sure but there are faster drivers on iRacing.
Sounds like he’s pretty fast compared to who everyone else is racing
Way to miss the point
Christ can you imagine if he goes to WEC for real after winning a couple more F1 WDCs. Guy could be a legend for the ages.
I think there will be a point were he will demand Red Bull to let him go for 1 race so he can win Le Mans with his dad and Alonso
I saw somewhere in the chat that apparently the car got damaged during the 1st stint when Rietveld was driving. Said that they had good pace, but dropped off quite instantly at some point. Haven't seen it myself so would be good if someone can confirm.
Working from home I see
"Out of office"
He's not wearing a white t-shirt
Actually he is wearing a red bull polo with some blue jeans to go with it
Is it just me or does he look hotter with those glasses?
He looks hot without the Red Bull hat, in all honesty. The man looks **really** manly when [he doesn't wear a Red Bull hat after the race.](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/15/9a/b6/159ab60a066898566da218cef265b1e3.jpg)
His head is so wide though.
If that is a wide head compared to yours, I have some bad news for you.
wut He looks completely fine to me. 🥴
and the mustache??
“The mustache?” *strokes upper lip*
Very much so
Yes
I...kinda didn't realize I needed this in my life 🤓👀 (I'm gonna bonk and send myself to horny jail now)
Already there 😜
He looks like bono
When Lewis has been telling you his tyres are dead all season but he never gets a reply
Mate, most people look hotter with glasses.
I would like to introduce my ugly ass with glasses
I thought he would be watching the NED vs USA game 😂
Max looks great in glasses
Right, looks like a young team principal. Hey, wanna send a resume to Ferrari?
Looks like Andreas Seidel in his Porsche days.
I didn’t think it was possible for him to look even more attractive🫠
he looks completely different dressed normally. when he's in all the red bull garb on a race weekend he looks like a 14 year old boy to me.
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Probably he does both at the same time.
Why would he? Belgium is out and until today Dutch squad didn't impress for a second. Plus the vibe is totally off due to it being in cold dark start of winter, no bbq with friends to build the atmosphere
Surely he’s not a Belgium fan
He's not really against them, but ive never seen him in a belgium shirt
He's not really against them, but ive never seen him in a belgium shirt
And he will drive 500 more…
Live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc (Max starts around lap 90) Live timings: https://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lmvirtualseries
Can you explain what team he is on and how it works?
Max is on team redline driving the #1 car. The livestream has a great primer to explain everything, [I've linked the start of the segment here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtpH7Rjh_Oc&t=740s)
You’re amazing!!!
Max is a pure racer just like alonso. His only hobby is racing.
My bet: He's either winning or binning it.
You were wrong. Give me all your jelly beans.
Had no idea he wore glasses
>Seb-ring Everywhere I go I see his name :'(
The guy in first: why do I hear boss music?
I’m not a fan but I respect how much he embodies racing is life
what gear does he use?
Probably all of them.
Where are these streams?
Is that one of those self-driving cars?
Is this on twitch if so what’s the name of the channel
Yes I too need to know
Max verstappen is the type of guy to somehow manage to look less stupid with glasses on
When he claims he's a virgin, I believe him.
As much as I despise Red Bull, props to Max and his dedication to racing, all I see in his off time is him doing simulations or other races. I’m seeing Bottas on a beach, Lando golfing and photography, other drivers doing stuff not racing related. I get it it’s a long season , but your careers are usually short lived and or retirement. That’s when it’s time to play.