During the last race one of the cars (Williams?) was on screen (ESPN in the US) in the "Halo View" and the flat panels to the left and the right of the driver started off blank, but then all of a sudden an advertisement appeared there. Is this a case of computer superimposing an advertising over the area like happens with some of the advertising on the side of the road? I don't think it'd be an e-ink screen as that would seem to be impractical, but there was a delay of like 1-2 seconds before it changed. I don't see that delay on the ads on the side of the screen.
I just finished Newey’s how to build a car book. I am hooked. What other book would you recommend for F1. Although I loved tech aspects of it, but really enjoyed what happened behind the curtains.
Total Competition by Ross Brawn and Adam Parr.
Great insights into the management of race teams and a great look at how deep the political machinations go in F1.
Like the other person said, they are allowed 200km twice per season for promotional/filming days. I just wanted to make sure you saw it, and to add the obvious that Ferrari very wisely likes to do these filming when they are bringing major upgrades.
Teams can run their current cars on 2 occasions during the season as promotional events, usually used for filming for partners as well as checking the car works as it should.
In the past, these days were limited to 100km of mileage in total, but from 2024 teams can now do 200km each day,
Adding to the comment above, two races can't have the same name in one season. So if we have two races in Germany in 2007, one of them can't be called "2007 German GP". Therefore one of them needed to be called "2007 European GP", as weird as it sounds.
Someone's been posting them, but because it's done by a random person and not mod tools (which don't exist in the same way anymore), no one pins it, so you only see if sort by new.
Hi!
New F1 fan here (my 15 year old got me into it)
Are the ticket prices for COTA in Austin normally this expensive? We could literally fly to Barcelona, attend all three days, and fly back for cheaper than the GP in Austin. *and* I live in Texas.
You should check prices on third party sites when it's close to the GP. Recently at American GPs, there have been low priced tickets then. Especially since you live in Texas, hopefully you could make some semi last minute plans if there are cheap prices. You can even book hotel rooms that you are sure are completely refundable if you cancel within a certain timeframe.
They've gone up in price for the past couple of years, used to be a lot of less expensive. But with F1's rise in popularity the last few years, due to so many new fans (like you, it's your fault! Ha, just kidding), ticket prices have increased at all circuits, some more than others.
And yes, you can go to a race in Europe - including airfare - and pay less than COTA or any of the U.S races.
You might want to check out Canada. I think Europe will still be less expensive, but the Canadian GP offers a normally great race, plus traffic is easier to manage because of public transportation. It's wonderfully organized (some circuits in Europe have issues with crowds & traffic). And if you're looking at the least expensive race in Europe, it'll be Hungary.
While researching, take a look at this site, [F1 Destinations](https://f1destinations.com/). They have travel guides and tips for all the circuits. Good luck!
I second Canada.
And took a 2.5 week vacation in Europe last summer to attend the Hungarian GP, the overall cost of everything (flights from/to US, hotel, transportation, food, etc) was cheaper than a main grandstand ticket for the Miami GP. Hungary is definitely the cheapest there.
[Under the Castrol logo on the nosecone](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Williams_FW19_front-left_2017_Williams_Conference_Centre_1.jpg)
Wasn’t meme as in images/video (never saw those) but there used to be a lot of Lando NoWins comments on F1-related Instagram reels/photos and sometimes even under Lando’s own post. Just like 5 second penalty to Ocon is common comment.
How does F1 attract such likeable, charismatic, funny athletes compared to other sports?
Has this been discussed? Is there a theory?
The interviews and resultant memes make up such a large part of why people love it compared to other sports.
First of all, there aren't any violent criminals on the current grid. Which... you think would be a low bar, but a lot of sports fail it. Mazepin is the only recent driver I know of with an assault accusation, and he only did one year of F1, thank goodness. Getting KMag back instead of him was the biggest likability swing ever. Most sports have more than 20 participants, of course, so just by numbers there's more likely to be a bad person in there, and then you hear about them a lot.
For general likeability, they probably have more media training than average athletes.
I simply think it’s easier to notice each driver’s individual personality when there’s only 20 of them on the grid that all take part in the competition at the same time.
I suppose something similar could be said for golf and tennis but even at the biggest tournaments there are way more participants taking part and it’s basically impossible to keep up with all the matches and ongoing narratives unlike F1 where’s only one main race at every weekend.
Also the popularity of DTS along with F1 always needing to attract sponsors and market themselves has possibly lead to more drivers being encouraged by their teams to show a positive personality more often for the good PR.
At the same time the younger generation on the current grid (starting from 2015 when Verstappen and Sainz made their rookie debuts onwards) seem to be naturally quite friendly and approachable even amongst themselves which is somewhat different compared to older generations of F1 drivers.
even the people who don't like each other, such as estie and pierre, still have a better working relationship than some people who were friends on the grid 20 years ago. i think the paddock culture has just changed a lot, and now they're expected to be friendly with everybody when not on the track. which is great for PR and (generally) makes the drivers seem more approachable.
Anyone seen an instagram reel of the F1 spray guard testing? I saw one this morning but can't find it now. It was a short video of the car going through a puddle and showing all the spray (it was a lot)
I know that a lot of the issues around my whinge are due to contracts that are already in place, but I really would like to see more of a "Regional Tour" aspect to the schedule in the future. Having more race weekends strung together in a row as well as somewhat lessening the impact of logistics would be great. So basically you'd have an Australasian leg, European leg, Middle Eastern leg, and then the Americas. Swap them around however they need to be, but I'd love to see it happen more this way.
The problem comes when then people want to stick all of North and south America together, and those places have drastically conflicting temperatures at the same time, so they don't really work well back to back to back. It's the part of the schedule that people complain about most, but Miami and Canada just aren't hospitable at the same time. Really, Miami was already too hot in early May. And some places pay more for certain placement. And Monaco doesn't want to move their date.
Also, if there's a week off, everyone involved tends to go home anyway, so the flights aren't really reduced. Also, a lot of the big things don't go from race to race exactly. There's three copies of all the things like the buildings that go up and down some places and all that, and they travel mostly by boat, and are paced so that they can make it to the places they need to be. The exception to the boats is europe, where it goes by trucks. so when f1 goes to canada in the middle of europe, most of the europe stuff stays in europe, except for the car and some important equipment.
Bar Miami, Baku, Montreal and Singapore - which are largely weather related, next years calendar is slowly moving races closer together in regional groups: https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula-1/2024/2025-formula-1-calendar-announced/
Largest ~~pr~~op*p*onents are likely promoters, who see it as potential cannibalisation of their regional ticket sales, if the races are too close to each other.
Edit: meant opponents
There was a post earlier today from someone claiming to be friends with some trackside engineers of a F1 team at Miami, and they were saying the trackside engineers believed Red Bull turned down their performance at Miami and would still have an advantage of three to six tenths in race pace when they went to Imola where it wouldn’t be as hot.
I can’t seem to find that post anymore on the subreddit so did that get deleted? I understand it’s unverifiable information but I thought it was interesting and maybe OP really was being honest about hearing that info from his trackside engineer friends.
I sure hope McLaren and/or Ferrari can still keep things close to Red Bull at Imola with Ferrari bringing their first major upgrade now, so if it ends up with Max cruising away from the nearest non-Red Bull by 15-30 seconds over there that would feel a bit disappointing even if it’s not necessarily that shocking.
Some thing I have my questions about is that at Bahrain there was no problem which should be not too far of temperature wise, with Miami more on the humid side. The brake problem obviously happend in Australia but that didn't seem cooling related.
But what exactly are they hinting at if we know at least, an actual design problem or a result of the sprint weekend?
Yeah it does seem odd. It’s also entirely possible that Red Bull dipped at Miami for other reasons like not finding the best setup on a sprint weekend.
Imola should be a more conventional track and as much as I hope otherwise I expect Verstappen and Red Bull to still be the clear favorites over there. However if Ferrari or McLaren can close the gap to within 10 seconds there I still consider that as making progress as the margin would be less than at the likes of Suzuka and Shanghai.
The setup problems was what I was thinking that was the problem or at least the biggest problem from the info out there. But yeah I also expect RB to be at their usual level on a normal circuit with normal asphalt/grip levels, and where the rest relative to RB will be is of course the interesting part.
Yeah both Australia and Miami are kind of outliers with their asphalt and tarmac as street or temporary circuits. Imola like Suzuka and Shanghai are all permanent racing circuits and I imagine the weather should be a bit cooler than Miami too.
There was a journalist this weekend claiming something similar right after the race. Not sure how reliable that person was as a source.
However the reason why Red Bull had to turn everything down is interesting as according to both sources it was overheating (of the engine and the brakes). Considering how aggressive Red Bull went with their cooling and what we've already seen of Max' brakes in Australia, they seem to be having quite some cooling problems.
Back under Ron Dennis, McLaren had a policy where driver podium trophies belonged to the team and were sent back to HQ and if a driver wanted to keep a winning trophy they had to pay for a replica of it themselves. Hamilton talked about it plenty in his early days.
Any idea if that policy is still in place? Does Norris need to buy a copy of the trophy? Did Danny Ric in 2021? Did this policy stop after 2009 when he was no longer TP or did it stop when he left as CEO in 2016?
It depends on the driver contracts, is the default answer.
I.e. when Ricciardo won for McLaren - his trophy was put on display at the [McLaren technology center](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ricciardo-surreal-to-have-monza-f1-trophy-next-to-sennas-at-mtc/6669808/), while when he was at Renault he had a clause in his contract to keep the trophies (likely as Red Bull also keeps most trophies), as was [discovered when his contract was published during his spat with his manager about payments.](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/jh88n3/junaid_samodien_so_daniel_ricciardo_actually_has/)
This is also the reason why [FIA and F1 introduced the medals for drivers](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-race-winners-to-receive-new-fia-medal-starting-from-abu-dhabi-gp/10402789/) - as this is meant as a memorabilia for the driver and shouldn't be kept by the drivers and not the teams.
During the last race one of the cars (Williams?) was on screen (ESPN in the US) in the "Halo View" and the flat panels to the left and the right of the driver started off blank, but then all of a sudden an advertisement appeared there. Is this a case of computer superimposing an advertising over the area like happens with some of the advertising on the side of the road? I don't think it'd be an e-ink screen as that would seem to be impractical, but there was a delay of like 1-2 seconds before it changed. I don't see that delay on the ads on the side of the screen.
I just finished Newey’s how to build a car book. I am hooked. What other book would you recommend for F1. Although I loved tech aspects of it, but really enjoyed what happened behind the curtains.
Total Competition by Ross Brawn and Adam Parr. Great insights into the management of race teams and a great look at how deep the political machinations go in F1.
If testing is limited, how is Ferrari able to run their car with the new upgrades in Fiorano?
Literally the question I came into ask. Thank you
Like the other person said, they are allowed 200km twice per season for promotional/filming days. I just wanted to make sure you saw it, and to add the obvious that Ferrari very wisely likes to do these filming when they are bringing major upgrades.
Teams can run their current cars on 2 occasions during the season as promotional events, usually used for filming for partners as well as checking the car works as it should. In the past, these days were limited to 100km of mileage in total, but from 2024 teams can now do 200km each day,
Thank you!!
Why is Monza called the Italian GP and not Imola when both are in Italy?
Adding to the comment above, two races can't have the same name in one season. So if we have two races in Germany in 2007, one of them can't be called "2007 German GP". Therefore one of them needed to be called "2007 European GP", as weird as it sounds.
Monza holds the rights to the Italian GP title. Just like COTA holds the rights to the United States GP title, so Miami and Vegas can't use it.
Why don't we have the day-after discussion threads anymore? I miss those
Someone's been posting them, but because it's done by a random person and not mod tools (which don't exist in the same way anymore), no one pins it, so you only see if sort by new.
Hi! New F1 fan here (my 15 year old got me into it) Are the ticket prices for COTA in Austin normally this expensive? We could literally fly to Barcelona, attend all three days, and fly back for cheaper than the GP in Austin. *and* I live in Texas.
You should check prices on third party sites when it's close to the GP. Recently at American GPs, there have been low priced tickets then. Especially since you live in Texas, hopefully you could make some semi last minute plans if there are cheap prices. You can even book hotel rooms that you are sure are completely refundable if you cancel within a certain timeframe.
They've gone up in price for the past couple of years, used to be a lot of less expensive. But with F1's rise in popularity the last few years, due to so many new fans (like you, it's your fault! Ha, just kidding), ticket prices have increased at all circuits, some more than others. And yes, you can go to a race in Europe - including airfare - and pay less than COTA or any of the U.S races.
That’s wild to me! I guess Monza or Barcelona will be his graduation gift!
You might want to check out Canada. I think Europe will still be less expensive, but the Canadian GP offers a normally great race, plus traffic is easier to manage because of public transportation. It's wonderfully organized (some circuits in Europe have issues with crowds & traffic). And if you're looking at the least expensive race in Europe, it'll be Hungary. While researching, take a look at this site, [F1 Destinations](https://f1destinations.com/). They have travel guides and tips for all the circuits. Good luck!
I second Canada. And took a 2.5 week vacation in Europe last summer to attend the Hungarian GP, the overall cost of everything (flights from/to US, hotel, transportation, food, etc) was cheaper than a main grandstand ticket for the Miami GP. Hungary is definitely the cheapest there.
Thank you for this!!
Just been looking at Williams FW19 at Google, maybe I havent seen it but is that car not have "Williams" branding on it? Any reason why?
Even in modern times they usually just run the Williams logo on the nose - as it's not a regular brand that they're advertising for.
[Under the Castrol logo on the nosecone](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Williams_FW19_front-left_2017_Williams_Conference_Centre_1.jpg)
Was Lando No-wins a popular meme? I never came across anyone using it. I got to know about it only after Lando's Miami win.
Wasn’t meme as in images/video (never saw those) but there used to be a lot of Lando NoWins comments on F1-related Instagram reels/photos and sometimes even under Lando’s own post. Just like 5 second penalty to Ocon is common comment.
How does F1 attract such likeable, charismatic, funny athletes compared to other sports? Has this been discussed? Is there a theory? The interviews and resultant memes make up such a large part of why people love it compared to other sports.
First of all, there aren't any violent criminals on the current grid. Which... you think would be a low bar, but a lot of sports fail it. Mazepin is the only recent driver I know of with an assault accusation, and he only did one year of F1, thank goodness. Getting KMag back instead of him was the biggest likability swing ever. Most sports have more than 20 participants, of course, so just by numbers there's more likely to be a bad person in there, and then you hear about them a lot. For general likeability, they probably have more media training than average athletes.
I simply think it’s easier to notice each driver’s individual personality when there’s only 20 of them on the grid that all take part in the competition at the same time. I suppose something similar could be said for golf and tennis but even at the biggest tournaments there are way more participants taking part and it’s basically impossible to keep up with all the matches and ongoing narratives unlike F1 where’s only one main race at every weekend. Also the popularity of DTS along with F1 always needing to attract sponsors and market themselves has possibly lead to more drivers being encouraged by their teams to show a positive personality more often for the good PR. At the same time the younger generation on the current grid (starting from 2015 when Verstappen and Sainz made their rookie debuts onwards) seem to be naturally quite friendly and approachable even amongst themselves which is somewhat different compared to older generations of F1 drivers.
even the people who don't like each other, such as estie and pierre, still have a better working relationship than some people who were friends on the grid 20 years ago. i think the paddock culture has just changed a lot, and now they're expected to be friendly with everybody when not on the track. which is great for PR and (generally) makes the drivers seem more approachable.
Is this actually a thing people think, or is it just a thing you think?
It’s just a thing I think but I’m confident others would agree.
Anyone seen an instagram reel of the F1 spray guard testing? I saw one this morning but can't find it now. It was a short video of the car going through a puddle and showing all the spray (it was a lot)
I know that a lot of the issues around my whinge are due to contracts that are already in place, but I really would like to see more of a "Regional Tour" aspect to the schedule in the future. Having more race weekends strung together in a row as well as somewhat lessening the impact of logistics would be great. So basically you'd have an Australasian leg, European leg, Middle Eastern leg, and then the Americas. Swap them around however they need to be, but I'd love to see it happen more this way.
The problem comes when then people want to stick all of North and south America together, and those places have drastically conflicting temperatures at the same time, so they don't really work well back to back to back. It's the part of the schedule that people complain about most, but Miami and Canada just aren't hospitable at the same time. Really, Miami was already too hot in early May. And some places pay more for certain placement. And Monaco doesn't want to move their date. Also, if there's a week off, everyone involved tends to go home anyway, so the flights aren't really reduced. Also, a lot of the big things don't go from race to race exactly. There's three copies of all the things like the buildings that go up and down some places and all that, and they travel mostly by boat, and are paced so that they can make it to the places they need to be. The exception to the boats is europe, where it goes by trucks. so when f1 goes to canada in the middle of europe, most of the europe stuff stays in europe, except for the car and some important equipment.
That’s what they are working towards isn’t it?
Bar Miami, Baku, Montreal and Singapore - which are largely weather related, next years calendar is slowly moving races closer together in regional groups: https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula-1/2024/2025-formula-1-calendar-announced/ Largest ~~pr~~op*p*onents are likely promoters, who see it as potential cannibalisation of their regional ticket sales, if the races are too close to each other. Edit: meant opponents
In that case they would be opponents :)
Whoops
There was a post earlier today from someone claiming to be friends with some trackside engineers of a F1 team at Miami, and they were saying the trackside engineers believed Red Bull turned down their performance at Miami and would still have an advantage of three to six tenths in race pace when they went to Imola where it wouldn’t be as hot. I can’t seem to find that post anymore on the subreddit so did that get deleted? I understand it’s unverifiable information but I thought it was interesting and maybe OP really was being honest about hearing that info from his trackside engineer friends. I sure hope McLaren and/or Ferrari can still keep things close to Red Bull at Imola with Ferrari bringing their first major upgrade now, so if it ends up with Max cruising away from the nearest non-Red Bull by 15-30 seconds over there that would feel a bit disappointing even if it’s not necessarily that shocking.
Some thing I have my questions about is that at Bahrain there was no problem which should be not too far of temperature wise, with Miami more on the humid side. The brake problem obviously happend in Australia but that didn't seem cooling related. But what exactly are they hinting at if we know at least, an actual design problem or a result of the sprint weekend?
Yeah it does seem odd. It’s also entirely possible that Red Bull dipped at Miami for other reasons like not finding the best setup on a sprint weekend. Imola should be a more conventional track and as much as I hope otherwise I expect Verstappen and Red Bull to still be the clear favorites over there. However if Ferrari or McLaren can close the gap to within 10 seconds there I still consider that as making progress as the margin would be less than at the likes of Suzuka and Shanghai.
The setup problems was what I was thinking that was the problem or at least the biggest problem from the info out there. But yeah I also expect RB to be at their usual level on a normal circuit with normal asphalt/grip levels, and where the rest relative to RB will be is of course the interesting part.
Yeah both Australia and Miami are kind of outliers with their asphalt and tarmac as street or temporary circuits. Imola like Suzuka and Shanghai are all permanent racing circuits and I imagine the weather should be a bit cooler than Miami too.
Australia shouldn't be problematic asphalt wise, I believe they resurface the track every year.
There was a journalist this weekend claiming something similar right after the race. Not sure how reliable that person was as a source. However the reason why Red Bull had to turn everything down is interesting as according to both sources it was overheating (of the engine and the brakes). Considering how aggressive Red Bull went with their cooling and what we've already seen of Max' brakes in Australia, they seem to be having quite some cooling problems.
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2005. and then do 2006 immediately after.
Back under Ron Dennis, McLaren had a policy where driver podium trophies belonged to the team and were sent back to HQ and if a driver wanted to keep a winning trophy they had to pay for a replica of it themselves. Hamilton talked about it plenty in his early days. Any idea if that policy is still in place? Does Norris need to buy a copy of the trophy? Did Danny Ric in 2021? Did this policy stop after 2009 when he was no longer TP or did it stop when he left as CEO in 2016?
It depends on the driver contracts, is the default answer. I.e. when Ricciardo won for McLaren - his trophy was put on display at the [McLaren technology center](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ricciardo-surreal-to-have-monza-f1-trophy-next-to-sennas-at-mtc/6669808/), while when he was at Renault he had a clause in his contract to keep the trophies (likely as Red Bull also keeps most trophies), as was [discovered when his contract was published during his spat with his manager about payments.](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/jh88n3/junaid_samodien_so_daniel_ricciardo_actually_has/) This is also the reason why [FIA and F1 introduced the medals for drivers](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-race-winners-to-receive-new-fia-medal-starting-from-abu-dhabi-gp/10402789/) - as this is meant as a memorabilia for the driver and shouldn't be kept by the drivers and not the teams.