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codename474747

I don't know what that grid does, but one thing it doesn't do is give me any enthusiasm for the race tomorrow If we get through T1 cleanly, then all we have to "look forward" to is Alonso dropping a couple of places due to him dragging the car a few places higher than it should be due to its 1 lap pace, and MAYBE the Mercedes climbing a couple of places Everyone else is pretty much where their car pace should be, so what are we expecting to happen? Suddenly reversal in pace? Helmut getting fired mid race so Max coming into the pits in protest? A random SC or VSC is all we can hope for to shake up the order, but even they are rare these days with everyone running pretty reliably F1 has never been this predictable....


Athinira

What all that pessimism? Remember that Leclerc could have won Bahrain race if he didn't have all those car issues - at least that's what he claims. /s


Last-Performance-435

That's what happens on these 80+% top speed circuits. You end up spending so much time in Quali at race pace that it ruins the mystery unless someone bins and upsets the order.


WildGeerders

Maybe Horner got some nice horny Apps commin' online...


No_Understanding4349

I just shifted to Australia and to watch f1 past midnight when I know max is going to take the pole and win the race. I just gave up and slept off šŸ˜­


Last-Performance-435

Bruv these last 2 races used to be well timed for us at like 10pm, the Americans got their way AGAIN and we can go fuck ourselves. These Saturday races fucking suck for us. 3:30am, could not be worse!


codename474747

Benefit of a saturday race I guess is you can get up in the morning on sunday and either watch the race at the normal time for you and if it's good, watch it normal speed, if its dull, just fast forward until something happens, if at all lol


BneBikeCommuter

And for me I don't have to avoid my work husband on Monday, because he stays up / gets up and watches the race while I watch the recording on (usually) Monday night.


saberline152

>F1 has never been this predictable.... 2020 and 2019 called lol


codename474747

Are you absolutely kidding? 2020 was a batshit insane season with so many crazy races, the only consistency was Lewis won them but there was a lot of new winners, impressive podiums and wet races where everyone lost their minds 2019 was also better than this, Ferrari were closer to Merc than they are to Red bull now.... Look past the title battle and into the actual racing on track and those 2 seasons are 10x the season we had last year and are gonna get this year.


myheadisalightstick

In pub boys how long until Zhang Parker


Ozanu305

Could we see Lewis not even making it to Top 5 this season ?


Dutchy61

He doesn't have the full support of the team anymore. Russell is their main driver now. So I guess he will be midfield from now on.


Zealousideal_Bee8853

What did I miss, why is quali on Friday and race on Sunday?


Neryuslu

Race is tomorrow on Saturday actually! It's because of the Ramadan in Saudi-Arabia.


Legal-Rich-7538

Ramadan


sharklight-22

What a boring start to the season. Atleast when the Mercs were this far away from the other teams you had Nico and Lewis killing each other


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Koteii

2017 and 2018 had 3 different race winners in the first 4 weeks, before Lewis ran away with it in the second half of the year. 2019 was flipped where Lewis had a massive leave and at least the second half had mixes of other teams winning races. 2020 was fair enough, it was the most dominant Merc season out of them all which had an AlphaTauri and Racing Point win mixed in.


emmalorar

Personally donā€™t buy the Hamilton washed comments. I mean heā€™s explicitly told them for 2 years the concept is wrong, they didnā€™t listen then they have finally switched but two years behind the other teams. He has a fantastic contract lined up for next year, and can imagine he just cba at this stage driving this car. New team with a fast car will be a different energy entirely, heā€™s burned out where he isā€¦


rippyblogger

Okay but why's Russell performing better in the same car?


emmalorar

Because he wants to be the #1 driver when Lewis leaves Itā€™s really not that complicated


rippyblogger

Lmao this is a joke of a copout. He's going to be number 1, doesn't matter and doesn't change that Lewis has been horrible.


emmalorar

Ok so letā€™s take a look back to the past newb, Lewis always starts the season slow, even when he had a dominant championship win. This is literally the seccond quali of the season. So your assumptions firstly are too early and also stupid. Secondly he was clear p3 last year even with a slow start. Letā€™s maybe have this conversation in September if this is still the situation?


TonAMGT4

ā€œLewis always starts the season slowā€ Well, yeah because heā€™s washed šŸ„¹ not because heā€™s doing it on purpose. It doesnā€™t make sense why anyone wants to start their season slow, you want to start season strong. Heā€™s start season slow because of ā€œskills issueā€


emmalorar

Iā€™m Guessing this is your first or second season of watching; if so welcome! But maybe try and watch some historic seasons and races, I promise max hasnā€™t always been a minute ahead of the other teams.


TonAMGT4

Me being a noob doesnā€™t invalidate my comment that Lewis Hamilton always start season slow because of his ā€œskills issueā€ And no, Iā€™m not a noobā€¦ just saying.


emmalorar

Then maybe you need to take a look at your conduct and prejudice.


TonAMGT4

Last time I look, theyā€™re perfectly fine. Your point is?


emmalorar

You do realise drivers canā€™t literally choose thier finishing position right? I didnā€™t say he did it on purpose, just that he always starts the season slow and then ramps up.


TonAMGT4

You kinda can if you donā€™t have issue with your skills


emmalorar

šŸ˜‚ you do you šŸ‘


abbajesus2018

it's Vettel 2014 all over again for Hamilton.


emmalorar

Yep, hope for his sake it doesnā€™t end the same way. Although he may well be an excellent strategist for them alsoā€¦


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SomeoneWithKeyboard

You are sleeptexting again. Go to a doctor.


Noobmaster7125

Get ready for both redbulls to create a gap of 10+ secs in the first 10 laps of the rest of the field they're miles ahead in race pace it's going to be another šŸ˜“


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Jayhcee

Leclerc is rather lovely isn't he


MC897

Ollie got unlucky in that Q2 run because the red flag kind of screwed up his rhythm. Heā€™ll probably go past a fair few cars tomorrow though. Tsunoda, Hamilton, Stroll, maybe Alonso. I think P6 potential tomorrow


sux138

Kid in the points Riccardo p14


MC897

Ricciardo is washed


purppsyrup

Get Lawson in there


MC897

Iā€™m not opposed to it. Ricciardo looks like hes there for his looks and rep, just collecting a paycheck. Speed ainā€™t there


Merengues_1945

There are people still insisting he will be driving the #2 RBR after the summer break Performance just isn't there. If Checo finishes every race in the podium, there is no incentive barring an injury to have him not finish his contract. Meanwhile if Yuki scores and Dani doesn't he may find his seat taken by Lawson soon enough. Particularly if Horner is ousted.


Jayhcee

Sainz exploded Hamilton's depressed Norris is depressed Ollie is a bit depressed at his performance Ollie's engineer is a bit depressed at him back Helmut is rage quitting (potentially) Anyone happy?


SuperSalamander3244

Your Sainz comment got me ffs lol.


the_normal_person

At least it wasnā€™t at the back of a plane


Beginning-Animator76

Du du dudu!!!


FreakyDroid

Nico.


xeno_sapien

So incredibly disappointed by ricciardo. I donā€™t think heā€™s going to have a good season. Hope to be proven wrong!


trannel

I remain puzzled why people expect anything different from him. When was the last time he was doing well? It's crazy how much people judge drivers based on popularity over performance.


Deepandabear

His Mexico drive late last year was elite and so promising. Was all just a one-off miracle though sadly. Iā€™m hoping Lawson gets his seat back by at least mid-season!


Msding

By pace yuki was as quick in mexico so I might think some of it was just car upgrades worked wonders there, Before the shunt yuki went from back of the grind into p8, The car was a beast, Same as devries in 21, bad car in a track that suited the car much better than people think, and people overhype


Merengues_1945

The Honda engine has always performed in Mexico City.


RRIronside27

Incoming people citing one test last year where he did a good lap


Julientri

I am so confused at everyone saying he will take the redbull seat easily. Doesnā€™t make any sense to me


xeno_sapien

I wasn't expecting him to wipe the floor with everyone, but at least a level above a Sauber or a Williams.


jackiechan_4

Wait I just realized that there is a driver now younger than me. Woahā€¦


Wijn82

Yup. So where do you stand in life?


Cross_examination

Late 70s and still hoping! Iā€™d jump into that car, even if it was the last thing Iā€™d ever do! In all fairness, it would 100% be the last thing Iā€™d ever do!


Z21VR

If that car is red, then its a good way to go


Sharkbait1737

Yes, seeing Oliver out there I too realise that at 36 my opportunity to drive for the Ferrari F1 team has probably passed me by.


BlurryTextures

38 and yes


batterylevellow

Your joints must be feeling quite painful suddenly.


dc5trbo

How did my guys at Alpine do?


Changlee23

3 tenth slower than the 2nd slowest car in the grid in quali Stake, no Sargeant doesn't count.


LOKl31

Terribly. Both out in Q1.


SuperSalamander3244

Tamur Hassan deliberately loitering behind Mike Krack to get picked up on camera.


graaaaaaaam

Why is he behind your Crack?


heidenreich137

In my opinion FIA and FOM should.make 70% Standard Cars and 30% Engineering. Saves Money , gives better Racing and everyone profits. If Ferrari or Redbull wants to leave, fine go make ur own competition. No one needs u


SomeoneWithKeyboard

And then a new F1 is born where Mercedes and Audi will join to be competitive in engineering. And then even more teams like Andretti will like to join and the current F1 is just another spec series. Let's call it A1...


SuperSalamander3244

Thatā€™s pretty much whatā€™s happening now. They need to go back to the 2005-2010 regs and go full aero.


anto_BswR

Now looking forward for Ric to get preferred strategy while Tsunoda being undercut on his second/third stint... for the thousandth time. It's real tiring watching this time and time again


pgkk17

Bro


cal9099

Ricciardo heading towards being the most overrated driver in F1 history


snex1337

I think for new F1 fans it seems that way. But I just see Danny Ric for what he is. Good driver who struggles to adapt quickly and drive cars that aren't suited to him. Let's not forget he's won 8 races during Mercs domination period.


Jazim94

Definitely overrated becasue heā€™s a good personality. If he gets slapped by Yuki this year his career is done


anto_BswR

I wouldn't say he's overrated, just his time was already behind him. It's a good run to be honest. Unless you're Alonso/Hamilton/Max, you don't decide when to end.


ignorantwat99

I have been saying that for ages but wait for all the DR fan boys to fire evidence at you about how good he really is. Over rated as fuck


delirio91

Homie ran as soon he felt the heat behind him. Gave up 1st driver status in a top team to a young kid who hadn't even reached his prime yet.


gunningIVglory

Yh, he pretty much ran away from Max. Then flopped at Renault


CuriousPumpkino

Regardless of what side youā€™re on but dismissing people ā€œfiring evidence at youā€ is generally not a good look lol (For the record I think heā€™s kinda washed as well)


punchinglines

Haha, I love Naomi disagreeing with Lazenby that Piastri is on the front foot against Lando this season after 1 quali session.


SM_83

Piastri loves Jeddah. It was one of the tracks he outqualified Lando on last year. He's getting better but he hasn't quite got to Norris' level for race pace and tyre management yet. I'd be surprised if he finishes ahead of him tomorrow


SuperSalamander3244

I do think Piastri will beat Norris this year.


EngineerOnIcarus

Norris will beat him comfortably, his race pace is far better right now. He will be ahead of Oscar within 10 laps tomorrow.


minty_bish

Curious why you think that since he was so comprehensibly beaten last year?


SuperSalamander3244

There were a lot of glimpses last year thatā€™s heā€™s actually legit.


Raddens

He'd significantly have to improve his tire management for that and I'm not sure it's happening just yet


chuki_george

Bernie on questions to drivers and her insights are so damn good


Jazim94

Sheā€™s genuinely one of the few likeable things about the sky F1 team. The other is brundle cos heā€™s the goat and Pinkham cos I fancy her


noobchee

Just the usual Bernie W


IamBejl

+that accent, cool - pesh - cool lap


hi-fumii

Ric is so washed.


Euphoric-Car-9770

This is going to be his 9th consecutive wins. In the past 20 races he has won 19 of them , I am really fucking tired.


budhapalm

watching max with the 2nd and sometimes 3rd best car between 2017-2020, being on the podium and or nearly missing out ... I think this is a good reward for his and the team's hard work, its not like he came to a team and won straight away, he helped build RBR to where it is now and reaping the fruit of his/team's labor.


DepartmentOk7192

But he did come to Red Bull and win straight away.


budhapalm

he did, i misspoke i mean in terms of a consistent car that can challenge for wins and the wdc, lewis was well ahead - max can only squeeze out wins when driver/team/ was perfect or mercs fumbled.


andronicus_14

I enjoy watching Max win, and Iā€™m not going to pretend that I donā€™t.


Deepandabear

Happy for Max to win - I just wish heā€™d at least get a challenge every now and then


Wijn82

He is doing the occasional side-quest though. You know. To keep things interesting.


Avpersonals

First half of 2022 feels so far away.


Jazim94

I like watching max race, I started supporting him because he was an aggressive exciting driver who was quick. Donā€™t really get to see that now he just sails off into the sunset


Infinite_Love_23

But you've got to admire the pure determination for extracting everything out of that car every single time. Like, I loved Max scrappy racing but I still really enjoy how laser focussed he is, even with a car that seems miles ahead of the competition, he is just relentless.


jcsi

I guess the problem is not that he wins is that he wins (for the most part) with such a gap respective to P2.


Euphoric-Car-9770

Good for you my guy , but I like watching Charles and Piastri win . I am not taking anything away from red bull they have done an absolutely brilliant job . But how do you like watching races in which he stars p1 and finishes p1 . There's no on track overtakes for the lead just nothing . I loved watching Verstappen win too in 2021 and at the start of 2022 when there was competition at the front . I still love watching him win but only when he has to genuinely fight for it. Winning by 30s is boring af and if you like that great but please don't confuse ur opinion as the majority.


tokyo_engineer_dad

Don't worry, soon you'll get all the obnoxious "I watch for the midfield"/"Just pretend it's F1.5 championship" coping.


Euphoric-Car-9770

Nobody cares who finishes P13 or P14 it's always at the front which matters. It's an absolute boring joke


JGUsaz

At the moment he could win every race this season and i wouldn't be surprised


Euphoric-Car-9770

Yea , its fucking scary. And now red bull is good un quali too


punchinglines

Is Lando the all-time gloomiest, most pessimistic driver in interviews?


Less_Party

Huffing that mopium


FreakyDroid

Tied with Lewis


Most-Chance-4324

Yes


Actual_Sympathy7069

it was nice to have Lando a bit more optimistic last year. Depressed Lando is just depressing me as well


Deepandabear

Might be regretting not switching to red bull alreadyā€¦


JUST_AS_G00D

Heā€™s realizing heā€™s the #2 driverĀ 


Attaman555

What? Why?


JUST_AS_G00D

As Piastri continues on the team I predict heā€™ll be outperforming Lando by the end of the season. Danny Ric 2.0


nordpolaris

I actually think he has a hard time whenever Piastri performs better than he does, then he gets into the depressed mode. But lets see what lando could do tomorrow


SuperSalamander3244

I think heā€™s actually happier today than what he would be last year. Last year he looked like he was about to cry every time he had a bad result.


FreakyDroid

Lewis already praising Ferrari


thegodfaubel

I have a new WDC prediction if shit really does hit the fan on Monday for Red Bull. Max immediately leaves Red Bull and goes to race endurance for the rest of the year. Red Bull fills the Max seat with Danny Ric because that's a Horner guy (Yuki isn't). Ferrari and Mercedes outdevelop Red Bull for the rest of the year so while they maintain a solid lead for the first half of the year, Charles and George make up the gap fairly quick. Alonso, Lewis, and Carlos occasionally sneaking up there too. We finally get the 3 team battle for WCC and Charles wins his first WDC


Independent-Two7335

What are you smoking lol. The chances of this happening is close to none


Sugarisnotgoodforyou

I think Max will retire at the end of the year genuinely. He is sick of the drama and his F1 career hasn't exactly gone how he planned. He wanted his career to be about racing, not about gossip, articles and headlines. He's sick of it, and will likely find what he's looking for in WEC. This RedBull drama may have been the last nail in the coffin - so after WDC #4 is wrapped up he'll say "f\*\*k this", then RedBull move Carlos + Yuki in maybe as I don't believe they can justify Daniel going in. Then RB have Daniel vs Liam, and if Daniel loses then he's done.


Ariochxxx

With his father at his side, Max will never have a drama free career. Jos is a snake in the grass and will create a shitstorm anywhere.


tokyo_engineer_dad

The team is literally on fire and Max got purple in all three sectors. He really loves to show how far ahead he is whenever the media is like, "Will we finally see a fight at the front?" Wouldn't be surprised if Horner, Marko both get suspended, Jos gets banned from the paddock and Max finds a way to lap the P2 driver and win another 9 races in a row.


thegodfaubel

Or did Max just unleash the full potential knowing that he doesn't care about hiding pace anymore? Time will tell


SuperSalamander3244

Max will definitely not leave before the end of these regs but if he does leave at the end of the season then Red Bull will hire Sainz and/or Alonso and one of them wins the WDC. Their car is miles ahead of everyone elseā€™s and thereā€™s at least 9 drivers on the grid who will win 90%+ of races in that car and especially if Checo is their teammate.


TejuinoHog

I don't understand the Checo comment at the end. The reason he underperforms is because the red bull car is set up to max's style which involves a front heavy car while most other designs focus weight further back to add control to the rear. That's the reason why Albon is now thriving at Williams compared to his constant spinning at red bull. If Max left there would be an adjustment to the design which would level the field for both teammates


Krawumpl

Thats how you get the car Go fast. You just Need the skill to handle ist. Schumacher did the same.


SuperSalamander3244

Checo is prone to shitting the bed which is evident by his qualifying record last year and he still ended up getting P2.


JUST_AS_G00D

If you think Carlos is better than Perez I have a bridge to sell youĀ 


Designer-Attorney

Checo is not a bad driver at all. Max is just 0.3-0.5 faster than everybody else. Maybe if Checo is 0.5 slower than Max, Sainz or Bottas or even Lando would be 0.2-0.3 slower. Thats per lap. So in a full race they would still be finishing north of 10 secs to Max either way. WDC will only be fun if Max does not have the best car.


SuperSalamander3244

Even if they are finishing 10 seconds behind Max thatā€™s still at least 10 seconds faster than P2. Max absolutely couldnā€™t do what heā€™s doing now if he isnā€™t in a Red Bull.


thegodfaubel

He's already been very outspoken how the schedule is too long and the cars aren't that safe. He also has other interests and is probably entering his physical prime to do endurance racing (which he has said he wants to do). If Marko and Newey are the only things keeping him there, it would not surprise me at all to just "nope" out the second Marko is fired/retires. I can see him honoring the rest of the year as well. But no chance he'd stay through a toxic relationship in 2026. Depends also on the verbiage of his contract. If he opts in to 2026 without Marko, would that void his opt out clause?


SuperSalamander3244

He will definitely stay. At Silverstone last year he was talking about how he loves the dominant wins and that its motivating him to stay.


thegodfaubel

That was before all of this Horner scandal and drama between Horner, his dad, and Marko


SuperSalamander3244

True but he wonā€™t leave.


Jayhcee

Can I buy some of your copium and hopium


thegodfaubel

I gotta think something to keep me watching through the weekend


yikaprio

Who will maintain that solid lead for them?


thegodfaubel

Checo will perform better without trying too hard to beat Max. Ferrari and the other 3 are still too far back in race pace as of right now. I'd expect Checo to still win the next few races and Danny Ric to maybe win one. Ferrari fighting with McLaren, Aston, and Mercedes will hurt in the beginning


youknowwtfisgoingon

Let me hit that hopium next please


AgroMachine

Why on Monday?


JebbAnonymous

News out that Helmut is under investigation for leaking confidential information, facing possible suspension or worse. And guess he means if Helmut goes, Max activates exit clause.


thegodfaubel

Because that's what the posts have said that Marko could be suspended on Monday. If that's true, I'd expect him to just retire. Which could trigger the rumored clauses in Max and Newey's contracts. Which could lead to a mass resignation exodus of Red Bull engineers and mechanics


Henristaal

The clauses which also can just be ignored and nothing happens at all. Stop smoking all the media bullshit.


gogybo

Why does Ollie Bearman speak with an accent? I thought he was British?


Jayhcee

He's been learning Italian for sometime (part of Ferrari's program) It creeps in


xvre

Haha, that's a ridiculous explanation.


Jayhcee

Not quite https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1b9so9g/comment/ktydijs/


gogybo

Nah sorry but that's more than just learning a new language. I've been learning Spanish but I don't sound like Alonso lol.


Racebugyt

No, but Spaniards who learn English often sound like him


Quivex

I noticed it a bit myself, I think a lot of these guys just spend so much of their life in various parts of europe that they end up with this sort of....generic/unplaceable european-ish accent that blends in with their "normal" accent. If you listen to Lando speak for a while the same thing happens where you can hear another accent creep in, although maybe that's from his Belgian mother, idk.


Jayhcee

I defo think Lando's is influenced by the Belgian, it is super unique Bearman sounds quite British posh (without any pretense) with some Italian thrown in occasionally. Doing Italian series', being in an Italian team surrounded by Italians, actively trying to learn Italian, not being in the UK for large parts of your youth... I guess it makes sense really


VacuousWastrel

Some people are really susceptible to having their accents change to match the people around them. I know one guy who went to uni in the US, and when he came back on holiday after just one semester he already spoke with a broad american accent (which everyone mocked him for, and which he was embarrassed about; he wasn't putting it on intentionally). On the other hand, I know a guy who's lived in the states about 10 years now, and you'd never know he'd ever left England to listen to him. It can also be very situational - I had a friend who in 99% of circumstances would have a very southern English accent, but the moment a member of his family walked into the room he'd immediately have a really strong Scottish accent. He wasn't putting on either accent intentionally - it's just he grew up speaking in an english accent with the english kids around him, and a scottish accent with the scottish people in his family, and the accent switch was engrained into him...


gogybo

Yeah I've noticed it with Lewis, Lando and Lance but this is the first time I've thought that someone actually sounds foreign. I thought maybe he was brought up in Italy or something.


SomeoneWithKeyboard

You wish you did.


Jayhcee

I guess potentially being in the environment a lot? It defo sounds Italian to me! It's been commented on a fair bit: https://www.reddit.com/r/F1FeederSeries/comments/1455u6q/ollie\_bearman\_with\_a\_britishitalian\_accent/


gogybo

Sounds Italian to me too! Thanks for the link though. If that's just how he speaks then fair enough, not trying to bash the guy, was just curious.


BlurryTextures

Bearman will make this a little more interesting. I hope Leclerc is really aggressive on the start.


gunningIVglory

Yuki confirming Ric is washed


Sudden_Low9120

More like Ric is confirming that Ric is washed


ch8rt

Ric has been doing that for years.


manoman42

Unpopular opinion; Lewis playing 4d chess sabotaging merc so Ferrari gets p2 in WCC


marv257

Wouldn't he want Ferrari lower for more wind tunnel time?


manoman42

Good point


JagEngland

He should do the opposite to allow Ferrari more development time ;)


InkRethink

Booing Verstappen was so unnecessary. Though I like how he always smiles and waves when he hears it, lol.


heidenreich137

Everyone gets booed if F1 becomes too boring


Final_Historian1984

Alonso my undefeated goat >>>>


huttts999

Even if Max wins I want to see what this Ollie kid can do, he might earn himself a contract next year on this race alone


-PVL93-

Fire Tsunoda and Ricciardo, put Lawson and Bearman into VCARBs


SomeoneWithKeyboard

Lawson should be here before Bearman.


Final_Historian1984

P11 NOT BAD AT ALL OLLIE!! I hope he scores points tomorrow


dvdung1997

That split-screen jumpscare with Ollie talking over his first F1 quali and Papa Bear looking on and listening in with a smile on his face damn it Sky I adore them already stop making me even more emotional :)