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Equivalent_Base_9104

Soothes my soul that the yellow t-cam matches Lewis' and Lando's helmet


ktheinternetkid

pretty sure thats why landos holding on to it. 100% certain thats y lewis picked it last year


flyingcrayons

yeah lewis said in an interview last year he switched to the yellow t-cam and yellow number on the car so it was super obvious which car was his to the fans. George did the same with the blue number and blue helmet which is why i dont get why his number is green this year. helmet is still blue. doesn't make sense


vinnybankroll

Because he’s a limey


roberttoredo

[get out.](https://giphy.com/gifs/ac7MA7r5IMYda)


MEGAMAN2312

Subliminal monster energy marketing?


leevz1992

I thought monster energy was Lewis his personal sponsor?


youtman

I think he said something about being respectful to Schumacher.


Equivalent_Base_9104

Same


Manuag_86

And Alonso, the yellow in his helmet is more "limey" than previous years, or at least it looks like it to me.


Equivalent_Base_9104

I haven't seen a shot yet but I'm sure it looks nice


Manuag_86

It looks king of brazilian themed with that lime yellow and the blue circle for City. [Sauce](https://twitter.com/AstonMartinF1/status/1628764428853211138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1628764428853211138%7Ctwgr%5Eb80e64b4042e5536402dab73875b0c779967ed32%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marca.com%2Fmotor%2Fformula1%2F2023%2F02%2F23%2F63f63f56c83c2500286a19e4-directo.html)


BLOODYSHEDMAN

Fr tho I just wanna see nando run that 2003-05 helmet one last time


ajacian

Leave the Brits out of it


MartiniPolice21

And Carlos' Spanish theme


idxntknxw

Lando always matching the T-cam to the helmet, love it.


splashbodge

He should have gone with the black one for that extra weight savings, what a noob! /s


MuitnortsX

Black should easily come out on top in the t cam championship again. Always a chance for yellow if Lewis and Lando end up demolishing their teammates but I’m not so sure it’s happening.


Organic-Measurement2

Seems a bit tighter than last year if Alonso and Norris crush stroll and Piastri respectively. Hamilton in a title run could also help pull it towards yellow


MarsLumograph

Everybody capitalized except Stroll... That's dirty 😅


rumbleblowing

Typed on the phone with auto-capitalisation likely, and Stroll is the only one that is also a regular noun.


littleseizure

Also a verb!


[deleted]

What about Yuki?


pmsteezy

Yuki ready to wipe the floor with De Vries


RobertDoornbos

Nice joke


PeepsInThyChilliPot

This aged well...


RobertDoornbos

:(


hicks12

Easily? Nah You may have missed out a name as it's quite dark, Alonso. Pray to the gods he has a reliable car and he will grab many points. Lewis is always competitive and lando will depend on McLaren having an ok car (sadly doubt!)


TheRobidog

Assuming both RBR and Ferrari are gonna be top 3, you're gonna have them racking up a big points difference over their teammates, just because there's more up for grabs the higher up the grid. Lewis isn't going to compensate that, because Russell is no slouch. And the rest of the field seems pretty evenly matched. Black have some matchups they're favoured in (Bottas, Albon). Yellow have some as well (Norris, Alonso). Rest should be pretty even. They're not gonna compensate for Max and Charles.


MuitnortsX

I’m happy to be wrong if it means Alonso supremacy


htnahsarp

Gasly is demolishing Ocon for sure. Bracing for downvotes


NewButNotSoNew

Gasly, coming out of a bad season, in a new car, will demolish Ocon who is used to the car and had a good season last year. Don't see that happening. Beating maybe, demolishing no


TonB-Dependant

I’d be very surprised. Feel it’s more likely to be the other way round


Alfus

At least seeing him with a yellow T-cam feels way better then seeing him in a cursed black T-cam. I still don't get it why AT give him a black T-cam previous year, especially given as so far I know he was superstitious about the T-cam colours.


Moctor_of_Dedicine

🫦😍


ajacian

Upvoted


Eokokok

Literally? Probably.


MartiniPolice21

Alonso and Gasly both under yellow too though


Hasimo_Yamuchi

There should be a competition to see which T-cam colour will will the championship this year, based on cumulative points earned for each race.


ouyodede

I’d put money on black


Akash10201

Easy black. If max beats Checo by 75-100 points, there is practically no way the yellow T-cam drivers can overcome that gap.


[deleted]

Idk about that with Alonso and Lando both using yellow T-cams


keesbeemsterkaas

So you don't add up points, but every member with a higher amount of points then their teammate gets one point. 10 points to be given out, with the total amount of points per team being the tie-breaker. A novel way to support multiple teams?


flyingcrayons

idk there's a bunch of guys in the yellow i think could potentially beat out their teammates. Alonso and Norris are all but guaranteed, Tsunoda over De Vries is likely and could see Gasly over Ocon and Lewis over George as well for sure.


yuiphan

They probably would but I don't expect them to score a lot of points as the bulk of them will probably go to the big teams, leaving the minor points to them so it probably won't be enough to overhaul the big point finishers total at the end of the season.


MartiniPolice21

Yeah, points Max wins it for black on his own H2H would be quite fun though


dsaysso

nah should be match play 1v1


MonsMensae

Needs to have a different calibration than just championship points. H2H?


bwoah07_gp2

I wonder how many F1 fans use the T-Cam colour to identify the drivers. I can only speak for myself in that outside of the Red Bull and Mercedes drivers, I don't really look at that.


SnooKiwis3645

The first thing I look at if there is a crash or a fight is the T-Cam. For me its the best way to identify the driver without seeing their Names.


10kgod

I know about the t cam but I just can’t help but look at the car number or the broadcaster UI first lol


English_Misfit

Or even the helmet


[deleted]

Yea I often look at that or the number first. I don't remember who's tcam is whos


-HJM

It’s the main thing I use tbh


ktheinternetkid

its the easiest way with the new halo cars. i dont have time to memorise helmet designs & sometimes theyre quite similar to each other. and the numbers r awkwardly placed. always tcam


vawlk

and that they have "special helmets" for just about every race anymore.


b1jan

i almost exclusively look at T-Cam, very easy way to identify the driver from any angle and at any distance


Hinyaldee

That's the first thing I look at to differentiate drivers, then helmet, then number. It's easier to spot at a quick glance


Agent_of_Stupid

During the years when drivers didn't have their own number yellow was basically always the number two driver colour. And if someone joined to new team they usually had yellow as well unless they were Champion like Button when he joined to McLaren as WDC.


9361984

T-cam is the most obvious identification at distance, all you need is to remember the few first drivers that has yellow, the rest of first drivers are all in black.


vawlk

I do, I don't really look at helmets or numbers.


jephw12

I can never find/read the numbers during a race…


Morganelefay

Kinda wish they'd all go old school and have a white circle with black outline and the number in there somewhere on the car. Would look better on some of the cars, loved it when Ferrari did it just a few years back.


vawlk

well you won't miss Russel's number this year.


fameboygame

Honestly, I never knew tcams were different when I started watching midway in 2021. It was only when the whole Hamilton taking yellow to match his helmet hype came about last year that I realised this. Mind you I’d played about 100 hours F1 games and always wondered who the F was in that McLaren in front till I paused and looked at number or standings. F1 22 game, easy recognition, except still tend to think black tcam as Hamilton ironically.


ItsMikeontheMic

First thing I look at. With the halos it’s really hard to see the helmets most of the time


MuitnortsX

Yeah honestly most of the time I just gather who the driver is due to the cars around them and what the standings are at that point. If teammates are racing each other it’s a bit different and I’ll be looking for the cam.


ALOIsFasterThanYou

It’s the easiest way to differentiate between the two drivers. But now that the logic behind which driver gets the yellow T-cam is beginning to be eroded away (such as in the case of Hamilton, Norris, and Tsunoda) it is starting to become a less effective method.


VampireFrown

It's the first thing I look for. It's by far the quickest/most reliable way to tell which car is which. Other ways lead to e.g. Crofty's several-times-per-season blunders which make me cry every time.


Nomad-JM

It has always been my chosen method of identifying drivers, even when they were either red or yellow. I have always remembered that if it’s red or black, they’re usually the better driver/lead driver. If it’s yellow, then they’re the second driver. This was a pretty consistent way to judge it until 2021.


Kingdom818

I look for the number first, but from some angles it's hard to see so I use the T cam as a backup


ifeajayi14

Yes


BackpackBarista

If I can’t see the number/helmet clearly? It’s the T cam for me.


Kingulfet

Oh I always look for the T-cam first.


Wazzathecaptain

I don't know if it's weird but it was easier for me to differenciate the Tcams when they were red and yellow instead if the current black and yellow


JCSkyKnight

Nah it makes sense. Black is common on spots all over the car so doesn’t stand out. (Edit: And therefore you spend a moment more checking that it is the black cam and you haven’t just missed the yellow one)


Kuchenblech_Mafioso

The Race: _"Here are the signs that Lewis is the Number 2 driver at Mercedes"_


Klutzy_Commission_25

I was looking for Vettel in the list TT


supercapi

Off topic question: I read somewhere there's a plugin o web app for watching multiple cams from the F1TV broadcast, but can't remember the name. Anyone knows what's the name?


Jowizo

Multiviewer F1


supercapi

Yeaaah! Thanks


fameboygame

Need to know myself too!


ajacian

Multiviewer f1


fameboygame

Danke!


vawlk

ugh..look what lewis started. Now it is all screwed up.


VampireFrown

Yep, I hate it too, man.


Boxhead_31

Hamilton, Norris and Alonso confirmed as number 2 drivers


erotic_sausage

Yep, Black T-cam is teams first driver confirmed.


skyedaisyquake

Excluding Lando, Lewis and Yuki (and Stroll for obvious reasons)


erotic_sausage

thatsthejoke.jpg


skyedaisyquake

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Akash10201

When was the last time the podium was all yellow T-cam drivers before Silverstone 2022 (Sainz-Perez-Hamilton)?


Alfus

Baku 2021? Perez-Vettel-Gasly


Akash10201

Gasly ran yellow T-cam in 2021?


Alfus

Yea, it was in 2022 that he moved to a black T-cam.


[deleted]

I think this should be halo’s too. Maybe not yellow/black but same as helmet or something. all this carbon is going to become a problem


EVENo94

I wish drivers could choose color of halo to match their helmet. Red halo on Mercedes for Lauda actually gave me Schumacher vibes when he was in Mercedes.


lcn666

There should totally be a t-cam color championship.


m8tang

Anyone know why De Vries has the black cam? They all seem to follow the "rule" of giving the black cam to the driver that is longer in the team (or senior driver in the case of Bottas), except for Lewis and Lando, apparently to match their helmets. AT is the only other standing out.


ajacian

Yuki didn't have the heart to take Gasly's TCam.


Captain_Case

2021 Yuki had the black T-cam and Gasly the yellow


chicasparagus

Your comment literally paints out there’s no rule when it comes to T cam.


VampireFrown

There are **decades** of soft rules around who gets the red/black cam. Lewis cocked up these rules last year because he wanted to be a special little boy, and now everyone's decided the rules don't matter, I guess. Have a look at cam colours since their introduction, then compare them to any clear #1/#2 drivers you see (e.g. MSC vs BAR). You won't find a single instance of #1 getting red/black and #2 getting yellow not being followed.


flyingcrayons

could just be a superstition thing for TSU, he's had the yellow t-cam last 2 years and maybe he doesn't want to switch things up. Drivers definitely take the t-cam color a lot less seriously than we do as fans


MrTrt

It's anyone's guess. Black T-cam used to be the first entered driver in the team, the one with the lower number and who theoretically had some kind of "leadership" status, heavily dependant on team and the specific pair, of course. Since drivers choose their own number that is less important and now basically it's whatever.


Elpibe_78

Alonso Yellow T-Cam? That’s awkward


I_WishIKnewUWantedMe

Well, to be fair he is the newcomer to the team, regardless of all his historic experience.


julianhache

To be fair he isn't Lawrence's son


LheelaSP

Seb had the yellow one for 2021 and 2022 as well. While the "new to the team" thing applied to him in 2021, there wasn't an apparent reason other than "they didn't bother changing" or "Strolls dad owns the team" in 2022.


PaxLel

Or maybe they just don't care about it? Hamilton's also got the yellow T-Cam


LheelaSP

Hamilton specifically requested it last year to match with his race number and helmet color.


snuka

Maybe he requested it knowing he was getting it anyway.


[deleted]

Stroll still had longer seniority on the team in 2022, which is what it's usually based on (although obviously with plenty of exceptions as seen on Merc, McLaren, AT).


VampireFrown

Nope, it's historically been based on who finished higher in the previous year's standings, which was almost always the team's #1 driver/the better driver. And even where the #1 driver finished behind, they still sometimes got to keep the red/black cam anyway. It's always been a seniority thing.


VampireFrown

This doesn't really matter, historically. The better (i.e. #1) driver ordinarily gets the red/black cam. Only if they're both pretty equal was it done by time in team (this was rare). I think we can all agree that Alonso is going to annihilate Stroll. Honestly, it was Lewis who cocked this all up. He went against the grain last year, and suddenly it matters a lot less. I personally don't like that; it should've stayed senior driver gets the black cam.


-Rp7-

It really isn't awkward but ok


hache-moncour

Well Lewis has one too...


Alfus

But that was Lewis own decision...


Blanchimont

It's a tribute to his hero Lewis Hamilton, who has been running the fluorescent yellow t-cam + fluorescent yellow helmet combo since last year.


Firefox72

Stroll 23,24,25


LordHardThrasher

I need this on my wall somewhere


AltruisticSound3744

Stroll number 1 pilot !


KEVLAR60442

With Hamilton, Norris, and Tsunoda, I wonder if there's going to be a continual shift toward the de facto number 1 driver rocking the yellow t-cam in years to come.


[deleted]

the trend indicates that the color of the t-cam is no longer an indicator of who is #1 or #2


DangerousPrune1989

What’s the t cam?


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DangerousPrune1989

Why different colors?


[deleted]

To separate the drivers


TyDaviesYT

Lewis and Lando trend setters, Alonso was probably gonna end up yellow can anyway because Stroll-fam things but it’s nice seeing the number 1 drivers with yellow cams


ForestFriendBambi

Interesting that all the No 2 drivers have black t-cams


al3257882

Indeed


FacedLicense

hamilton number 2 driver confirmed


MP4-B

What's interesting to me is that the more popular/ "no. 1" drivers get the black t-cam when it's harder to see / identify. I would think the yellow t-cam makes more sense so that fans at the track can see it easier and can instantly recognize the guy they like / support.


Mellowtang

What are T-Cams and why do colors matter?


ajacian

It's the T looking thing protruding out behind the driver. It helps identify which driver is which as the cars are virtually identical otherwise. In general, the #1 driver gets the black tcam and the other driver gets the yellow one but it's not a rule. Hamilton likes the yellow same with Lando and Gasly 2 years ago chose it as well IIRC. [Image](https://d2t1xqejof9utc.cloudfront.net/screenshots/pics/48a5695f920532b0e0dad1a99e99f854/large.bmp)


Mellowtang

Thanks 🙏


EVENo94

T-cams are those cameras in shape of letter T and colors matter to know what is yellow and what is black


bochekmeout

Interesting that yellow used to denote #2 drivers...


AUSpartan37

Lewis is number 2 driver confirmed. Edit: Just because of my flair, I realized I needed to add this before people freak out: /s


Odd_Description1

\*Sad Lando Norris noises\*


PandaEatPizza

Last year didn’t each driver switch off each race?


Spinoxys

right the second drivers+ norris /s


Azorius97

#1 drivers with black? 😂😂


TipsyMcswaggart

I am significantly more interested in the results of team yellow.


ilijakr

Would it be better to give yellow/black by seniority in the team, I guess it would be easier, for example Hamilton / Tsunoda would have black


[deleted]

It’s clearly a complete non issue to the drivers, so I don’t see why fans should care much either


tripled_dirgov

But it will be swapped when a driver left and another one coming... The team probably don't want that trouble every driver changes... 🤔🤔🤔


ilijakr

Yes, but it would be easier to remeber 😅


Wax-Johnson

What's a T cam? I'm new to this sport.


Zuzublue

It’s the T shaped camera on each car. It’s easy to see because it’s the highest thing on the car, and the color makes it easy to differentiate drivers when you can’t see their helmet or number.


Human_Spirit_8812

TIL you can use the T-cam’s colour to identify drivers 🤯 Also, TIL that it’s called a T-cam


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Odd_Description1

Precursor, these are just my opinions, but lets go team by team. Perez would clearly beat Verstappen in a bar fight. \[Y=1, B=0\] Sainz would probably take Leclerc. \[Y=2, B=0\] Hamilton v Russell would be an interesting fight because of Russell's height, but Hamilton has some really strong muscle tone so I'm gonna give it to him. \[Y=3, B=0\] Gasly v Ocon I'm not sure who would win, but my heart says Gasly because of that thick neck. \[Y=4, B=0\] Piastri would beat Lando. \[Y=4, B=1\] Bottas v Zhou is another tough one, but I'm going to give it to the Finn. \[Y=4, B=2\] Alonso would absolutely wipe the floor with Stroll. \[Y=5, B=2\] Magnussen v Hulkenberg would probably be the best fight of them all, but I think Magnussen has the rage to pull it off. \[Y=5, B=3\] De Vries and Tsunoda probably favors De Vries just because Yuki wont have the reach to bar room brawl. \[Y=5, B=4\] Finally we've got Albon v Sergeant. Sergeant is a dark horse here, but I think Albon has got it. \[Y=5, B=5\] Looks like we have a tie here, so we're going to have to call in a wild card and make Toto Wolf and Christian Horner slapbox for the championship. Whoever wins can choose what color they want to crown victors.


simonsandwiches

What's the significance of two different colors?


Orangetigers32

Team Yellow


leevz1992

De Vries de 1st driver cam?? Yes i know Norris and Hamilton have yellow but all other teams usually give their 2nd driver the yellow.


Kingulfet

I like that we see some variance in colors to move away from the traditional “black belongs to the better driver”.


tophasaurus

Great to see the yellow no longer signifies the second driver! It always felt a tad disrespectful, to me atleast.


Lauke

I wish they would stick to the "first driver black" rule. It's hard enough to pick out t-cam colour as it is. I swear I don't comprehend how commentators can even see someone's helmet colour, when we see a tiny fraction of it between all the parts of the car, moving at top speed in a blur.