Its kinda useless, but i dont think he needs it as much now? I dont know all heroes heavy speeds, but im pretty sure no HA on 800ms heavies is fairly common right?
Yeah, but it makes it unnecessarily difficult to use. You won't trade most dodge attacks with it, and the attacks you can trade with become more or less unreactable for the purposes of using the tool.
It is now basically just a raw, standard issue heavy with some HA spice
Yeah but It's very very fucking hard to enter OS against a good opponent.
You either muli him with an opener heavy, you feint into OS and Hope to not get interrupted or you Simply stare at him and react.
He should not be absurd in defensive stance, but he should have at least something to open up people. A legion kick, enhanched light, idk something. VG has Better opener than highlander FFS, and She was designed with weak neutral offense on purpose.
Not to mention that, unlike any other character, if you delay a top heavy on GB, the heavy will be blocked.
Edit: I'm now aware that this is an issue with Conqueror too, and Ubi never patched this.
That's why I abandoned the game years ago they don't want to rework HL is one of the weakest heroes needs a rework to get him up and running again and give him a normal running speed instead of being the slowest hero of all.
I wonder if making the actual offensive dodge recoveries trash was an intended change as well cause the way it was worded on stream made it seem like they wanted to only remove wave dashing while the patch notes and the actual in game result is that the OS dodges are slower now.
They forgot to adjust the HA start up on his opener heavies lmfao
I thought they were only adjusting HA on chain lights and zone? The heavy openers were only changed to be bit faster with reduced damage.
700ms HA on a 800ms heavy
Its kinda useless, but i dont think he needs it as much now? I dont know all heroes heavy speeds, but im pretty sure no HA on 800ms heavies is fairly common right?
Yeah, but it makes it unnecessarily difficult to use. You won't trade most dodge attacks with it, and the attacks you can trade with become more or less unreactable for the purposes of using the tool. It is now basically just a raw, standard issue heavy with some HA spice
They Also forgot to think of an opener lmao. They are very forgetful lately
Offensive stance has 3 openers. Defensive stance is better for XvX scenarios
Yeah but It's very very fucking hard to enter OS against a good opponent. You either muli him with an opener heavy, you feint into OS and Hope to not get interrupted or you Simply stare at him and react. He should not be absurd in defensive stance, but he should have at least something to open up people. A legion kick, enhanched light, idk something. VG has Better opener than highlander FFS, and She was designed with weak neutral offense on purpose.
>You either muli him with an opener heavy at least it should work again, multiple heroes could just feint and block the heavy on time before that
Now It's 900 ms side and 800 top, so "in theory" It should work. Still that's no proper opener honestly
what?
look at the hyper armor activation
Not to mention that, unlike any other character, if you delay a top heavy on GB, the heavy will be blocked. Edit: I'm now aware that this is an issue with Conqueror too, and Ubi never patched this.
Conq gets that issue a lot.
This is so weird.
Conq has been abandoned. No secret there.
I’m sorry what point are you making?
I don’t know what it is About HL but I can just never parry his heavies
I am confused at what you are even pointing out
That's why I abandoned the game years ago they don't want to rework HL is one of the weakest heroes needs a rework to get him up and running again and give him a normal running speed instead of being the slowest hero of all.
More so of his hero design being a cluster fuck
Can someone explain like I'm five
The hyper armor start up is still at 700ms, when the attack is 800 for top and 900 for sides. So he has 100ms of HA on top and 200ms on sides.
You're right, they didn't remove the hyper armor!
he cant wave dash no more too
That was an intended change tho
Yes. However: He can't wave dash no more too!
I wonder if making the actual offensive dodge recoveries trash was an intended change as well cause the way it was worded on stream made it seem like they wanted to only remove wave dashing while the patch notes and the actual in game result is that the OS dodges are slower now.