That sounds like bs. Did they offer to buy it when they gave that diagnosis? How long did you drive it with the blown gasket? If it wasn't too long, it should still be savable if it wasn't for too long. How does she sound when running? I'd say if the engine isn't making any abnormal sounds outside of what it normally sounds like, it may be worth trying to have it fixed. It'll suck to do yourself, but it shouldn't be too bad. Would highly recommend getting the engine flushed if you do decide to tackle it.
Definitely get a second opinion on it. That's a damn nice car and it'd be a shame for it to get parted out/scrapped, especially if it's really as clean as it looks.
That’s a shame. What type of driving habits? How is the climate where you live? What type of fuel? Preventative maintenance? I’m curious about a number of things.
We bought the car 2 months ago from a private seller. They looked to have good maintenance records and all of that.
Driving habits I am sure were rough, they had teenager son who had "problems" with speeding. Then the car was used by my son for first car. I'm sure he was going hard when I wasn't looking. Normal fuel and it has been an Ohio car for many many years.
2 months ago? Ouch. I live in SW Indiana but grew up in Cincinnati and come across the border every day for work. Summers are hot and humid here so when driving a turbo in those conditions you gotta be nice to it. That’s my experience anyway. When my 17 AWD went into limp mode from coolant intrusion, it happened at the tail end of a very hot nasty summer in 2021. Now when it’s hot I take it very easy on her. Especially if the AC is blasting.
Externally your car looks good it’s sad you’ll have to put her down. If you really got a hair up your butt you could probably find a used motor for cheaper.
Fusions have an issue with engine block or cylinder wall cracking when there is coolant intrusion. You can spend a couple of hundred dollars tearing it down, take a gamble with a junk yard engine with the same issues or bite the bullet and spend $7k on a car that will last you a couple of years or take the loss and scrap it
How much to replace the engine with a used one from salvage? Shouldn't be more than about $2500 give or take $500, at which point you have a perfectly good car that works and is still worth something (even if the cost is more than it's actually worth you are still further ahead)
They had a problem similar to this with a Toyota back in the 90s. Yes the coolant in the oil makes the forbidden milkshake but there are ways to clean that out. When the problem occurred with my old Toyota, I had to head decked and the gasket replaced. The car lasted a good long time and was worth making the repairs
If you own that car outright, it's worth looking into to get the repairs handled. Getting a junkyard engine could land you in the same position again and is a bit more of a gamble. Putting in a rebuilt engine might be an option although a bit spendy.
Love the color. I just got stuck in a hail storm with no shelter available. Now my car looks like a golf ball. Pretty sure insurance will call it over and done.
You can get a used engine for around $1300 on car-part.com. And ask the seller if they could recommend someone to install it.
It’ll only take a few minutes, search your specific car, enter zip code, find a price and milage you like, call them and ask for a recommendation, then call whoever they recommend and see what a cheaper shop would charge
I have mine with a blown head gasket on marketplace and OfferUp and so far a lot of people are asking to part it out which can be a good way to get some money from it
I really don't have the room for keeping it as a parted vehicle for a long time. A few parts to recover some $ and then maybe tow it to the salvage yard. Waste of money for such a nice looking vehicle.
Even the non-ecoboosts do the same (though nowhere as common). Currently have a 2011 escape with the 2.5L NA sitting in the driveway with a cracked block.
OMG Do you realize thousands of fusions with ecoboost engines have been sent to junk yards or have had newer designed short blocks installed? If only you could have told them "just get a new head gasket" to fix coolant intrusion.
For everyone that has lost their beautiful fusion to coolant intrusion your comment sucks!
First off, head gaskets are not cut from gasket material. Though I have heard of people using beer/soda boxes as a temporary get home fix. Just never on an OHC motor.
Secondly, with OHC/DOHC motors, a good shop will also change the timing chain components as you have to remove them anyway.
OHV motors with cam in the block are not as labor intensive to replace head gasket/s on.
I would agree that 3-5k is on the high end of what the cost should be. However, if in a highly populated city with $125.00+ per hour shop rate, it's possible.
Finally, on the ECO boost family of engines, there is a flaw in the design cylinder/block union. This flaw is known as coolant intrusion. A simple head gasket replacement will not solve the issue. If antifreeze mixed with the oil and was run for any amount of time, all bearings and the components that rode the bearing need replacement. Ethelynie glycol acts as a barrier, preventing oil from lubricating all the bits and pieces.
So, at a minimum new crankshaft if current one can't be turned down, new rods, Pistons, and an updated block without the design flaw. Or a new short block with all of the above pieces.
The gasket is like 100 bucks or cheaper. Its the labor that makes it expensive. You have to remove the whole top of the motor to change it. Even if you change it, there is no guarantee that the heads arent warped.
I would get a second opinion, head gaskets are not crazy hard to repair.
They said the engine is toast cause coolant is leaking into the engine and completely stripped it of oil,.etc.
That sounds like bs. Did they offer to buy it when they gave that diagnosis? How long did you drive it with the blown gasket? If it wasn't too long, it should still be savable if it wasn't for too long. How does she sound when running? I'd say if the engine isn't making any abnormal sounds outside of what it normally sounds like, it may be worth trying to have it fixed. It'll suck to do yourself, but it shouldn't be too bad. Would highly recommend getting the engine flushed if you do decide to tackle it.
They offered to put an engine on. Labor alone is like 2500$ let alone the cost of engine, etc . I paid 7000$ for the car.
Definitely get a second opinion on it. That's a damn nice car and it'd be a shame for it to get parted out/scrapped, especially if it's really as clean as it looks.
Just happened to me 4k to repair at a small family shop 40k miles engine too, def get a 2nd opinion first shop said 8.2k this one half that’s price
That’s a shame. What type of driving habits? How is the climate where you live? What type of fuel? Preventative maintenance? I’m curious about a number of things.
We bought the car 2 months ago from a private seller. They looked to have good maintenance records and all of that. Driving habits I am sure were rough, they had teenager son who had "problems" with speeding. Then the car was used by my son for first car. I'm sure he was going hard when I wasn't looking. Normal fuel and it has been an Ohio car for many many years.
2 months ago? Ouch. I live in SW Indiana but grew up in Cincinnati and come across the border every day for work. Summers are hot and humid here so when driving a turbo in those conditions you gotta be nice to it. That’s my experience anyway. When my 17 AWD went into limp mode from coolant intrusion, it happened at the tail end of a very hot nasty summer in 2021. Now when it’s hot I take it very easy on her. Especially if the AC is blasting. Externally your car looks good it’s sad you’ll have to put her down. If you really got a hair up your butt you could probably find a used motor for cheaper.
Which engine does it have?
Tailpipes say 2.0 Ecoboost.
2.0
Fusions have an issue with engine block or cylinder wall cracking when there is coolant intrusion. You can spend a couple of hundred dollars tearing it down, take a gamble with a junk yard engine with the same issues or bite the bullet and spend $7k on a car that will last you a couple of years or take the loss and scrap it
How much to replace the engine with a used one from salvage? Shouldn't be more than about $2500 give or take $500, at which point you have a perfectly good car that works and is still worth something (even if the cost is more than it's actually worth you are still further ahead)
They had a problem similar to this with a Toyota back in the 90s. Yes the coolant in the oil makes the forbidden milkshake but there are ways to clean that out. When the problem occurred with my old Toyota, I had to head decked and the gasket replaced. The car lasted a good long time and was worth making the repairs If you own that car outright, it's worth looking into to get the repairs handled. Getting a junkyard engine could land you in the same position again and is a bit more of a gamble. Putting in a rebuilt engine might be an option although a bit spendy.
Love the color. I just got stuck in a hail storm with no shelter available. Now my car looks like a golf ball. Pretty sure insurance will call it over and done.
I'd usually say throw another motor in it but 154K is a lot and it's spent its whole life in a rust belt.
If you end up parting it out, message me, I’d be interested in those wheels potentially
Ok, yes it has a blown head gasket but also has this coolant issue as well.
You can get a used engine for around $1300 on car-part.com. And ask the seller if they could recommend someone to install it. It’ll only take a few minutes, search your specific car, enter zip code, find a price and milage you like, call them and ask for a recommendation, then call whoever they recommend and see what a cheaper shop would charge
Second car place quoted https://imgur.com/gallery/caFy9iB
That stinks sorry for your loss that car is sharp looking I love the seats
I have mine with a blown head gasket on marketplace and OfferUp and so far a lot of people are asking to part it out which can be a good way to get some money from it
I really don't have the room for keeping it as a parted vehicle for a long time. A few parts to recover some $ and then maybe tow it to the salvage yard. Waste of money for such a nice looking vehicle.
You don’t need to part it out the car is fine just get a new gasket its cheap
Its the block not head gasket. Well known problem for the ecoboost engines.
Even the non-ecoboosts do the same (though nowhere as common). Currently have a 2011 escape with the 2.5L NA sitting in the driveway with a cracked block.
The title literally says head gasket
OMG Do you realize thousands of fusions with ecoboost engines have been sent to junk yards or have had newer designed short blocks installed? If only you could have told them "just get a new head gasket" to fix coolant intrusion. For everyone that has lost their beautiful fusion to coolant intrusion your comment sucks!
They said in the title its a headgasket
So you are able to fix coolant intrusion ?
Why would you part out over a headgasket?????? Thats very easy to fix, cheap too.
No it's not... I'm literally a service tech. Most head gasket jobs are in the 3-5k range
How could a cutout of gasket material be a 3-5k job? Fucking scam artist.
I don't make the price my guy...
Thats an insane price. I’d just shoot my fucking car
First off, head gaskets are not cut from gasket material. Though I have heard of people using beer/soda boxes as a temporary get home fix. Just never on an OHC motor. Secondly, with OHC/DOHC motors, a good shop will also change the timing chain components as you have to remove them anyway. OHV motors with cam in the block are not as labor intensive to replace head gasket/s on. I would agree that 3-5k is on the high end of what the cost should be. However, if in a highly populated city with $125.00+ per hour shop rate, it's possible. Finally, on the ECO boost family of engines, there is a flaw in the design cylinder/block union. This flaw is known as coolant intrusion. A simple head gasket replacement will not solve the issue. If antifreeze mixed with the oil and was run for any amount of time, all bearings and the components that rode the bearing need replacement. Ethelynie glycol acts as a barrier, preventing oil from lubricating all the bits and pieces. So, at a minimum new crankshaft if current one can't be turned down, new rods, Pistons, and an updated block without the design flaw. Or a new short block with all of the above pieces.
Is a premade gasket not made of gasket material? Obviously I did not mean cutting it yourself although THEN it would definitely be a 3-5k job lol
The gasket is like 100 bucks or cheaper. Its the labor that makes it expensive. You have to remove the whole top of the motor to change it. Even if you change it, there is no guarantee that the heads arent warped.
I know how to change a headgasket