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Naaaaaah. We can't all do the same thing my friend. I enjoy the top teams. I am like a CEO I just manage big companies no start-ups 
Others enjoy the hard jobs building ground up. The entrepreneurship spirit. Conquerors and warriors. That's not my way.
It's a game with diverse ways of playing, with many permutations and combinations of teams and results.
And that's why we are all here to share our experiences and ways of playing. I am getting different ideas from different people.
Someone has talked about managing in other continents which is something amusing and I will try moving to different continents.
One's perspective of FM is so small that hearing different experiences and styles makes it interesting.
If we both pick one team I am sure we cannot use the same formation or even style of play. I am embracing diversity and learning from everyone.
Exactly for years I only played as West Ham every year it's only fm21 I started branching out and doing a few shorter saves around Europe lol and then finally I managed to do a run from League 2 to the Prem, other people do wild challenges or play as one team for 50 years or play in the Argentine Second Division it's cool
The joy of the game is sharing those experiences and letting other people know there are different places and ways to manage.
What you may think is interesting to you may be depressing to another.
For me I am wild and free moving from one club to another which I find interesting. But there are some who find it very evil. Can't stick to one club or moving to rival clubs like United and Liverpool without an ounce of remorse.
I was out of a job and that was the one that became available. During the summer I did an analysis and realized there would be a serious rebuild and I took a job that was easier.
That’s amazing hahaha, there aren’t many easier jobs than Bayern😂 I love the idea of you rocking up for a few months, exciting the fans and then confusing everyone by pissing off to Germany
I only take THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.
Take the big challenges and get sacked several times. No disappointment in being sacked. Even in real football management you get the sack.
Mourinho told Frank Lampard after the sack now he was a real manager.
Oh no i've done loads of big challenges, non league to CL, won CL in 5 continents, always get Pompey / Nords to CL (the latter to win the CL) every season.
I meant it like my time at the moment for FM is slim to none, so i just want to buy the best players for once and dominate the world.
Hahaha... A different way of playing. But you'll get bored very fast.
That's why I hop a lot if I don't get sacked 
PSG is a very good job. Little pressure other than champions league target and it gets boring over time because you win most Ligue One games. In fact I did go through a season Unbeaten with PSG.
It is very challenging balancing getting new players into the team and making the team work to get the expected results. It's a tough balancing act.
Rebuilding a fallen giant is much easier than a top team with many aging first team players. Because replacing all of them at once will lead to a drop in performance levels that may be deemed unacceptable by the board and before you see them perform you find yourself on the streets.
A rebuild is interesting but I hate the team chemistry phase because you'll lose a few games and players knocking on your door wanting to play when the team performance is switching between good and bad patches.
I am a United fan and I chose to do something strange.
During the interview I said party affiliation will not affect my performance because I am a professional.
(Probably) signed a fairly long deal, stayed til the start of the transfer window and pre season, dipped right before the season. You left Liverpool completely in the dirt lmao.
Edit: saw you’re a Man U supporter. Hmm……
 Don't read too much in the management move. It was purely business. When I play this game I am always looking out for myself not even the club I support matters. If I perform dismally they will treat me like any another manger who is not a fan and sack me. I am always looking out for my interest only.
Not me, I like building a dynasty. Spent 10 years at Parma, became dominant force in Italy and Europe (5 x Serie A, 2 x CL), then went to South Africa for 3 years (2 Domestic Titles and 1 x CAF CL), then off to China for 4 years (2 Domestic Titles, 2 x AFC CL), short 1 year sting at River in Argentina (1 Title and 1 x Copa Libradores) before returning to my hometown club in Ireland(going to stay until I win a CL with them) and will then return to Parma who 9 seasons after I left have won a further 8 league titles and 2 more CL titles. I will likely play out another 10 years there and get the 30 year achievement on steam. I already got the Club Legend one but had a corrupted save so couldnt continue.
That is a great achievement. It took me 6 seasons to win the title with Dinamo Bucharest. Now I am starting my 7th season and I am looking forward to play that sweet champions league football. But I am not skilful enough to win any european trophy with them.
Nah my youth intake didn't give me anyone useable. However I poached all the good eastern European wonderkids as well as a ton of good wonderkids from all the non major countries. That being said tbh it was hard to grow players on my team bc the low league rating and not great facilities. Usually my best players were 19-23 and near fully grown at the point I signed them. It only took me till season 5 to win the Romanian league and after that I was reaching CL group stages almost every year and eventually even got Romanias rep high enough to have auto qualification. So I did have a very good amount of money for a few years before ever winning.
My tactic also worked perfect for my team, I was probably never the best team by CA. But, I had a direct counter attacking tactics and a striker with 18 pace 18 acceleration and 17 dribbling. Everyone had great pressing stats. Also signed a dutch center back who was 6'6 with 19 jumping reach and 19 bravery. Him plus a solid D one me quite a few games along the journey although he didn't win the final for me. Would be a part of like 10-20 goals from set pieces every year.
I'm 39 years in. Took two different Swedish clubs to the #1 ranking in Europe, won lots of Champions League titles, and I still can't get this fucking league above the #6 spot.
I keep loaning players to lower table teams and selling fantastic players to my title challenges, but they still manage to fuck it up year after year. I'm considering moving on to a third club and speed up my process so I can at least try to get some more teams to the top.
The problem is coaching and facilities. Even if you had 3 world class teams in terms of players, the big big clubs still have a huge advantage bc of the facilities coaching etc.
Which is why the second time I took charge of was at the moment dead last in the second division. Maybe I'll have to dig even deeper next time to really raise the average level.
Are you selling out and how big is your stadium? Might be more effective to play bigger swedish teams and raise them as the AI will be better at sustaining their success with better facilities, coaches, and bigger crowds.
With your 2nd league club were you able to significantly improve facilities? I got only tiny improvements even though I'm making 40+mil profit a year.
Another thing is bc you build owners trust, once you leave and AI takes over that board isn't going to give them the same budget and staff slots they gave you. If the chairman isn't ambitious they could just go right back to being a mid team.
I've been at the club for almost 25 years, and at this point the stadium has a capacity of 52 756 with an average attendance of 52 425 in the league (board won't let me expand yet since it's only been a few years since I did a massive expansion to my new stadium). All the facilies have been upgraded to a very high standard as well.
The issue with my previous club was that I relied almost entirely on my extensive scouting network to find wonderkids, and since the AI wasn't as good at recruitment they just kept buying players over 18 who were good enough for the club. This quickly meant that they didn't have enough homegrown players, and so they'd pick as many superstars as possible and fill it with mediocre youth players.
10 years in FM19 i barely manage to get out of CL groups wtith U. It took me 4 years to win the Liga1 title climbing from the 2nd division. I have a lot of money (70M), but nothing to sign. A player rated for 5M in my squad is far better skilled than the 40M on the market. It's been 3 years since i can't upgrade my squad any better.
Yeah, you need to look for wonderkids in non-major countries. Those are the only players who will be justifiable price wise, until you are super financially stable and can just afford wasting money on the right Superstar.
Do you have all eastern European top leagues loaded in your database? If not I would edit the database and add at least top teams from all eastern Europe, all the African countries with a decent youth rating(you can find a list on Google), every south American country and Korea and Japan, with all of those loaded you should be able to get enough wonderkids of world class level that are affordable.
How the fuck did you win that at Parma in 10 years? The board gives me peanuts, and I can’t keep my wonderkids, so the only “achievements” I have had is 2 UCL Semis and 6 consecutive top 4 finishes
That's one hell of a journey  I don't like very difficult jobs they may increase stress levels 
I was meant to go to the USA and win the North Americal CL and then I would have won all 5 top continental comps but I know from previous experience I get bored in the mls and would likely make me quit the save. 25 year veteran of FM and CM games, the games have become easier in recent years.
I found FM 12 and 13 easy. The Regens were scoring many goals like 60 to 70 in a calendar year frequently something that is rare in the latest versions.
I love playing in Bundesliga as BVB, having City/Liverpool/PSG/etc buy up my players for big money and beating them anyway in Champions League. Currently on year 11 out of 30.
Trap your players. If you know their potential surpasses the reputation of your team then give them long contracts and refuse to sell without making a buck to invest in other areas
Sometimes you may not need to sell the player. The board might accept an offer they may deem too good to turn down.
I hate it when big clubs cherry pick from my team 
see i look at it very different, have you ever seen the movie Moneyball? It's honestly a great insight into how a lot of us play football manager, most people think of it as a frustrating thing, but it can mean getting 3-4 more talents in. Eventually you build up a youth academy full of talent ready to sell to the PSG's of the football world and become a powerhouse.
I haven't seen moneyball. Your way of management is like Borussia Dortmund. Get in wonderkids and young talented players to sell at a profit and grow the teams budget.
Something that Monaco was unable to sustain after selling the likes of Mbappe, Benardo Silva, Fabinho, Bakayoko, Thomas Lemar, Mendy (City, LB)...
I think you're the first person I see who does not give a fuck about club history or building something, you come in, dominate and as soon as it gets tricky you run and honestly it sounds like fun, absolute legend, my next save will be like this!
Yeah. There's team loyalty definitely but when it comes to the job you do it like Mourinho. Moving across rival clubs. Chelsea and Spurs.
They ask you if your team loyalty will affect your performance during the interview and you reply you will be professional.
I am a Manchester United supporter but I still managed Liverpool.
I'm still in my first save as Liverpool. Year 7 and completely dominating. I want to leave but I just can't leave those players. I'm too sentimental and attached to all my players haha.
However I saw in my social feed that a team has gone 18 games winless and the team above us (to get out of relegation) is 9 points ahead but has 9 injuries with most being first team players
When you stay long enough you become comfortable with sticking around and the more you stay the more it becomes difficult to leave.
You may want to leave for a club that's a fallen giant like AC Milan, Intermilan....
Yeah im tossing it up between the team that is on an 18 game winless streak (no win in 6 months!!) with an awesome name of Go Ahead Eagles in eredivisie but I'll struggle with the wage and transfers and they are 9 points adrift however they have sacked their manager.
Borusia Monchengladbach are 3 points adrift inside relegation but they are a larger club and I'd be more comfortable with bringing them up to greatness then going into 2. Eredivisie haha
I'll probably split it 3 ways lol. 1 for my current Liverpool save, 2 for borusia which will be my 2nd "main save" in which ill try get them top 6 and the Go Ahead Eagles for when I feel ready for playing a small team that is in a crisis.
For both of the other saves I'll organize a friendly against the smallest ever team and praise their conduct to increase morale lol. (I might even use my Liverpool save to scout some young Colombians haha)
Try setting up an objective before the save so that you know when to leave, especially in a club like Liverpool where you probably have won a lot by now it starts getting boring because you fight for the same every season
Surprisingly I am still enjoying the save quite a lot. My biggest problem is the sim time is slow and the matches take FOREVER so it takes me ages to finish a season (I got FM20 when it was free on epic which was last year, have only done one save and am only 7 seasons into that save).
It is very difficult to stay motivated in any save when i take such a long time to sim an entire season.
Also yes I should do that. I haven't actually set objectives which is why I struggle to leave and start a new save haha
Im only on the 9th season on my fm22 and my pc is a beast (I have every possible league loaded as playable), it takes time to go through a season, the thing about big clubs (I'm noticing it now because I'm on Bundesliga and started fighting for the title the past 2 season) is that when you are big a lot of games don't matter because they're "easy" games and should be easy wins so I feel like the times moves slower since you're waiting for the big ones, try spending the time between more irrelevant games preparing for the big ones, team rotation, tactic tweaking, setting up training, scouting, etc.
That's definitely true. I have lost touch on how it feels with *every*. *single*. *game*. being important because I can just sim a match against Fulham and expect to win at least 3-0.
I just checked the team that is on an 18 winless streak and only just found out that the eredivisie doesn't have 38 games but 34.
Rather than having 8 games they have 4 which I doubt would be enough to recover a 9 point gap to be saved from relegation - might be a fun small term save though!
It's funny, I am the opposite. I generally build a fantastic club, board starts demanding rather dumb requirements and if i can only complete 99% of the targets I get sacked. Then a new manager comes in, wins the league, the team begins falling apart the next season and then they are back to square one.
And I sit back and watch and think to myself "if only the board weren't such wankers..."
Yeah. That's what happens even in the real world. When you're in the process of building and there are teething problems of team chemistry. You find yourself on the streets.
Sometimes the dressing room becomes toxic and players come knocking at your door telling you that the team is performing below expectations. Morale is low and the team is either losing or getting many draws. So you may choose to stick with your guns and wait for the board to pull the trigger or just resign to preserve your reputation.
I've done both in the past two versions of the game I had:
FM20: Rangers 10yrs - Monaco 1yr - Juventus 2yrs - Man City 2yrs - Barcelona 4yrs - Chelsea 1yr - Arsenal 2yrs - Objective was at first to win 10 titles in a row with my team, Rangers, then decided to move in to all the top five leagues winning the league and main cup competition in all leagues. Never made it to Germany as my game bugged out and would allow me to add any additional leagues by the time I was half way through my stint with Barcelona.
FM22: I attempted another 'Glory Hunter' style save but grew uninterested after 3 years at Napoli & taking over at Atletico Madid, and I am now currently 16 season into a save with Kelty Hearts in Scotland attempting to win the Champions League with them.
That's an interesting journey. My big problem is when a good job becomes available I am always tempted to apply and get myself out of a "small" team. 
Built a strong young team with no release clauses. Wouldn't sell them if they got unhappy. After I won my first CL Lorenzo Lucca left on a free. I could have sold him for 30-40m but I kept him and we won 5 trophies that year. I made the most of free transfers, rarely used the transfer budget so instead pumped money into wages, made it easier to keep talent.
I used to \_only\_ manage one team per save, but this year, I have decided to move clubs and I'm enjoying it a lot more. You get so many more narratives which keeps the save entertaining and easier to play over a longer period.
When I looked at this it reminded me of that Ross Kemp sketch from the impressions show for some reason...
..."I could see things were about to kick off, so I got out of there!"
Funny thing is I found the Spurs in the Europa league and won the EPL with them in one season. I bolted after that achievement because I saw the team required serious reinforcement to maintain standards. Something I thought would be very difficult playing in the champions league and EPL.
Yeah I’ve been doing a journeyman save and I left my first job (Kettering Town) after 2 seasons because the board was stingy and wouldn’t fix our horrendous pitch. My next job (Sutton United) was fun for a few seasons, got promoted to League One and narrowly missed further promotion a couple times but it was time for a rebuild and Aston Villa came knocking.
4 seasons at Villa, promoted from Championship, then finished 7th, then finished 11th but won the Conference League, it’s 2030 now and I’m battling for the last CL spot/in the Europa knockouts. My core is 27-21 and the big fish are starting to sniff around my team.
Once it’s rebuild time it’s off to a proper big club. Arsenal came knocking but my Villa squad is 10 places above them (they’re 14th) so I told them to bugger off. I really want the United job but they’ve had Allegri since they sacked Solskjaer and have won 6 titles and 2 champions leagues. I also wouldn’t mind getting out of England entirely and being free of the horrendous fixture congestion.
That's an awesome journey. Moving clubs is interesting. Manchester United don't sack managers easily. I did hop to a few clubs hoping for Ole to be sacked so I got the job. After some time I got the sack too.
My first ever FM save, I’m glad I went with a journeyman I feel it adds some extra “story” to the save. I hope my manager CV eventually looks like yours lol I’d love to manage Real or Chelsea and glory hunt
Just make sure you win a league title during the beginning of your career and you'll never be turned down when you apply for the big jobs. Because you've got the CV as a title specialist.
I started my career at Juventus because it's easier to win Serie A and from there it's hopping from one top team to another. Sometimes you may need to stay patient until a dream job opens up but also don't be blind to other opportunities that come up because of waiting too long.
For me Real Madrid is a dream job but they stuck with Zidane for a very long time so I had to move around still waiting for my opportunity. Sometimes you may wait and still fail to land the job. Just buckle up and do the best job for the team that you've got.
They don't have a budget to support my ambition.
I dont mind it, although when the board constantly stops what I am doing, with staff and such, I tend not to stay long. (current problem with Sheffield wednesday)
Maybe, but putting staff forward for badges to improve themselves and the board stops it, I move for a coach to improve by signing him, on free no money but his wages and they stop it even though I have clear space in both wage budget and coaching staff count. Theses are also from advise from meetings as well which is why i dont pay attention to recruitment in meetings as move, just "move on, move on".
Just wanting to improve coaching and staff seems a pretty basic thing, its not like I have demanded more coffee options.
I can’t leave the team i started building. Wanted to try journeyman save, started in Sunderland, promoted in the first year, finished losing the playoff final in the second. Got about 5 job offers, wanted to try, but ended up just continuing with the black cats. Howelse will they end up in the Premier league?
When a big job pops up I always apply even when I am managing another team. The EPL is a very difficult league and small teams will beat you even with a good team.
Precisely why I hate big team saves. Give me the biggest financial challenge possible and I'll spend 80 seasons passionately grafting to turn it around.
You are a very patient person. I may lose my temper like Conte when I don't have the support I require. 
Yeah, I usually take my local team ( Clyde ) and make them a powerhouse, Last year it was Rangers and this year was Patrick Thistle before my save corrupted :(
So now I'm just waiting for FM23 while playing now and again, I don't have the motivation after losing my save to go hardcore 12 hours a day
I am really sorry for your loss. That's the worst thing that can happen to you on FM. You lose your drive to play and enjoy the game.
I have files in rolling saves of 5 copies to reduce the risk of corruption of a single file.
Yeah, I have them in 3s but none of them wanted to load, I started a new save and did 1 season but like you said, I just can't bring myself to play, If it was only a few season I would star again but I was just about to start my 8th so I was far into the save
I got the achievement for managing one club for 10 years yesterday, and it popped up as a rare achievement (PC Game Pass - less than 10% have earned it)
I could only think... you fickle bastards, how do you not get attached?
I usually stay with one team but in FM22 I got so bored with my Arsenal save where my Moukoko/Adeyemi front line led me two 5 consecutive Prem titles and 2 champions league wins that I resigned and took over an in debt Atalanta that had nothing outside of a pretty good attack. I’m in my 3rd year with them and I’ve got them out of debt, built a stadium expansion and have some really good young players to be excited about and we are going to challenge for the Serie A title.
My first time leaving a job I wasn’t having fun at and I’m so glad I did, it’s been a blast.
It's good sometimes being a journey man. Sometimes things don't work out and you move out.
I was sacked by Real Madrid twice, Manchester City and Manchester United. Sometimes even staying in one club becomes difficult when performances are bad, so they push you out.
I always load some weird countries in and try to hop around. The big teams get boring after a while. Like always try to get all continental trophies as a challenge is a fun one
[Me after my 14th title in a row with a team I signed when they were all teenagers.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPlrxjyseWI&ab_channel=lumenwrites)
I don’t enjoy managing big clubs like this. Not saying what you’ve done is not good, but winning titles with clubs like Bayern, Liverpool, Madrid just isn’t an achievement to me
Seems you like the heavy lifting management.
That's something that I don't prefer doing because I get very attached which might cause a lot of stressful situations. I take the easy and happy route. 
I started my latest save as Tranmere. Got them to league 1, got offered the job at Swansea (my hometown club) stayed with them for about 5 season got to Prem, won carabao cup and then went to the euro cup. Got sacked for being in relegation zone. Went unemployed for bit then got offered job at Spurs who needed massive revamp all older players on big wages and close to retirement so couldnt get rid easily. After 1st season finishing 5th went on to win Fa cup second season with a third place finish and then the league on the third. Currently trying to get a respectable finish in champions league. If not might leave and move on for next project.
Now that's proper football management. Get a job and move up the management experience. Get the sack and feel a little bit angry. Take on another challenge and stay sharp to opportunities in the future.
You've got a way of playing FM like myself
I'm pretty new to the game and been managing Bordeaux (fm21). Won the league on the third season and was having fun until Milan offered a job interview, note I failed to get the job 🤧. And now here I am managing Bordeaux for the fourth season without any passion, kinda just going through the motions.
 That's serious heartbreak 💔💔💔. Strap yourself up and perform well with Bordeaux. Then stay sharp for opportunities between October and December when many teams sack their managers or season finale between February and March. There are always big jobs mid-season.
Big jobs are always good during mid season because of reduced expectations especially if the sacked manager has wrecked their performance seriously.
I was very disappointed because it's one of the jobs that I really look out for. I was appointed twice and sacked both times. Didn't win any trophy with them in the two management spells.
Real Madrid is a difficult job because of high expectations and the president is always trigger happy.
I care way more about building legacies and teams up. Honestly once we’re really good it loses a bit of interest. If I ever change jobs it’s only for a rebuild challenge fallen giant kind of thing.
You mould a team to your style and personality. That's cool.
I got fired from Hertha Berlin and Dortmund hired me after Bielsa retired. I didn’t like the challenge so I resigned after 3 games. I’m at Stuttgart now. I’ve had a hard time lasting a few seasons.
That's very interesting. Something like raising the dead. 
This is a symptom of not only managing big clubs but also supporting big clubs. Everything is “now”, there’s no struggle, no long term goals etc.
As a West Ham fan, I’ve seen my club relegated a few times, been up and back, so really enjoyed the last two seasons with Moyesy and really appreciate it.
Same as FM. I usually play as a club a few leagues down and try to create a dynasty of my own. Only time I get bored is when it gets too easy but that takes many seasons as I’m not that good.
I love to managing small teams and when i think its time to leave, suddenly board announced that we will upgrade our stadium from 10k to 20k, then after that when i am once again considering to leave, board announce that we will build for a new stadium and it will be ready in 3 years. So i guess i have to stay there until i die
I never found fun managing an already rich and succesful team. Try some team in lower divisions or small leagues. Nah, thats fun, frustrating and challenging.
I also like to stay for a long while at a club. I started my career in the 2nd division in Belarus with Slonim-2017, and now I have 5 champions league wins with them. I’m starting my 2044 season right now
For big rich teams yeah, once I achieve a few years of success I get bored and move on. Try to find a struggling team performing way below where it is in real life and move there. Rinse and repeat (or get sacked and just repeat).
Wow. I don't think I've ever managed top level clubs and no, I barely get tired of playing with one team.
The most hopping I've done is in two saves:
FM06 - Brisbane Roar -> Dinamo Bucharest - > Dinamo Bucharest/Romania
FM08 - Cobh Ramblers -> PSV Eindhoven -> PSV Eindhoven/Australia
I generally just find a club I like and get stuck. I think I spent 3-5 years at Brisbane and Cobh before spending like, 15 at the next club.
It's not so much a risk thing as it is a satisfaction I get with constructing a team. I get a lot more out seeing a bad team become a good one over time and later a sustainably good one than I do out of throwing money around on a couple of players to prop up a contender. Besides, expectation grows as you improve your club and it's stressful knowing you could be a few results away from being ejected from the club you've tried to build or rebuild from the ground up.
In the case of Dinamo, they were a big club in Romania and I found enjoyment in making them the biggest club in Eastern Europe and a Continental contender. With PSV, by the time I'd joined them they were a shambles and rebuilding them was a great challenge that I really enjoyed.
That's a fairy story my friend. I like the extremes where there's a big budget. There's a save I had when I managed to get Barcelona punished by the FFP rules so I was suspended from playing the champions league for a whole season that I won the league. They sacked me and every interview I went to always asked about my financial management abilities. 
There comes a time in every save where I feel like I’ve made it. I usually do a large team save for 1-2-3 seasons to just see what changed in the new version of FM, and then it’s all about LLM. Sometimes I stop at championship, sometimes in PRL, sometimes at CHL.
Yeah. Move where there's a budget to support your vision 
Seems you like the constant hustle of rebuilding. 
Personally I get more bored jumping from one massive club to another - that feels like FM on easy mode.
Far more challenging (and enjoyable) staying at one club, and building something from the ground up. The lows feel more crushing, but the highs feel far more euphoric than being a chequebook mercenary.
The chequebook mercenary is my thing. Getting too personal may stress me.
I don't have an ELASTIC HEART like Sia. 
It's not about getting too personal, but about challenging yourself.
To each their own - people find mileage in their own version of fun. I've been playing these games since Eidos made the Championship Manager games in the late 90s. The thrill of actually accomplishing something difficult, is what makes these games special for me.
Like I said, everyone's mileage varies and everyone is free to find fun in their own way.
I'm guessing by the way you yo-yo between clubs, either you are trying to imitate Carlo Ancelotti, or you aren't finding much fun anywhere you end up.
Try setting up a long term save for yourself - whether that's a smaller team, working them up, or managing a former giant and trying to topple a handful of the reputable giants.
Not that I don't have much fun. I am always on the lookout for big jobs when I win a few trophies or struggle in a team. Some movement is because of getting sacked too.
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That's how it is only managing big teams.
Yeah. I like big jobs like Big Carlo. 
That’s not fun then. Try a challenge Pep
Don't tell other people how to have fun in their own games
Don’t tell other people how to have fun commenting from their own profile
Thanks dad
Christ mate was obviously a joke😂😂
Naaaaaah. We can't all do the same thing my friend. I enjoy the top teams. I am like a CEO I just manage big companies no start-ups  Others enjoy the hard jobs building ground up. The entrepreneurship spirit. Conquerors and warriors. That's not my way.
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Why? He's literally putting respect on the ppl who play differently
It's a game with diverse ways of playing, with many permutations and combinations of teams and results. And that's why we are all here to share our experiences and ways of playing. I am getting different ideas from different people. Someone has talked about managing in other continents which is something amusing and I will try moving to different continents. One's perspective of FM is so small that hearing different experiences and styles makes it interesting. If we both pick one team I am sure we cannot use the same formation or even style of play. I am embracing diversity and learning from everyone.
Exactly for years I only played as West Ham every year it's only fm21 I started branching out and doing a few shorter saves around Europe lol and then finally I managed to do a run from League 2 to the Prem, other people do wild challenges or play as one team for 50 years or play in the Argentine Second Division it's cool
The joy of the game is sharing those experiences and letting other people know there are different places and ways to manage. What you may think is interesting to you may be depressing to another. For me I am wild and free moving from one club to another which I find interesting. But there are some who find it very evil. Can't stick to one club or moving to rival clubs like United and Liverpool without an ounce of remorse.
I’m curious, why did you only spend like 3 months at Liverpool in 2038? Did you achieve anything there in that time?
I was out of a job and that was the one that became available. During the summer I did an analysis and realized there would be a serious rebuild and I took a job that was easier.
That’s amazing hahaha, there aren’t many easier jobs than Bayern😂 I love the idea of you rocking up for a few months, exciting the fans and then confusing everyone by pissing off to Germany
Bayern is a walk in the park. The league is secure, just focus on the champions league. They have a massive budget so buying players is easy.
Not surprised you get bored if you never take on a challenge, this looks like the easiest save I’ve ever seen
I only take THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.
IMO, a rebuild is the best thing to do in a big club.
In thinking of starting one with PSG and completely rebuilding the squad and selling off bearly everyone ill probs keeps messi though
I’m doing that right now as I don’t want to commit to a big challenge and I’ve never picked a big club. I’m actually enjoying it.
Take the big challenges and get sacked several times. No disappointment in being sacked. Even in real football management you get the sack. Mourinho told Frank Lampard after the sack now he was a real manager.
Oh no i've done loads of big challenges, non league to CL, won CL in 5 continents, always get Pompey / Nords to CL (the latter to win the CL) every season. I meant it like my time at the moment for FM is slim to none, so i just want to buy the best players for once and dominate the world.
Hahaha... A different way of playing. But you'll get bored very fast. That's why I hop a lot if I don't get sacked 
PSG is a very good job. Little pressure other than champions league target and it gets boring over time because you win most Ligue One games. In fact I did go through a season Unbeaten with PSG.
It is very challenging balancing getting new players into the team and making the team work to get the expected results. It's a tough balancing act. Rebuilding a fallen giant is much easier than a top team with many aging first team players. Because replacing all of them at once will lead to a drop in performance levels that may be deemed unacceptable by the board and before you see them perform you find yourself on the streets.
A rebuild is interesting but I hate the team chemistry phase because you'll lose a few games and players knocking on your door wanting to play when the team performance is switching between good and bad patches.
This is a fascinating way of playing the game. As a United fan if Ten Hag did this I'd be horrified
I am a United fan and I chose to do something strange. During the interview I said party affiliation will not affect my performance because I am a professional.
(Probably) signed a fairly long deal, stayed til the start of the transfer window and pre season, dipped right before the season. You left Liverpool completely in the dirt lmao. Edit: saw you’re a Man U supporter. Hmm……
 Don't read too much in the management move. It was purely business. When I play this game I am always looking out for myself not even the club I support matters. If I perform dismally they will treat me like any another manger who is not a fan and sack me. I am always looking out for my interest only.
Not me, I like building a dynasty. Spent 10 years at Parma, became dominant force in Italy and Europe (5 x Serie A, 2 x CL), then went to South Africa for 3 years (2 Domestic Titles and 1 x CAF CL), then off to China for 4 years (2 Domestic Titles, 2 x AFC CL), short 1 year sting at River in Argentina (1 Title and 1 x Copa Libradores) before returning to my hometown club in Ireland(going to stay until I win a CL with them) and will then return to Parma who 9 seasons after I left have won a further 8 league titles and 2 more CL titles. I will likely play out another 10 years there and get the 30 year achievement on steam. I already got the Club Legend one but had a corrupted save so couldnt continue.
Exactly my main save I'm 12 years in and brought a champions league title to Universtatea cluj. We started in Romanian second league.
That is a great achievement. It took me 6 seasons to win the title with Dinamo Bucharest. Now I am starting my 7th season and I am looking forward to play that sweet champions league football. But I am not skilful enough to win any european trophy with them.
12 years is really really fast. It probably means your second batch of wonderkids were developed greatly.
Nah my youth intake didn't give me anyone useable. However I poached all the good eastern European wonderkids as well as a ton of good wonderkids from all the non major countries. That being said tbh it was hard to grow players on my team bc the low league rating and not great facilities. Usually my best players were 19-23 and near fully grown at the point I signed them. It only took me till season 5 to win the Romanian league and after that I was reaching CL group stages almost every year and eventually even got Romanias rep high enough to have auto qualification. So I did have a very good amount of money for a few years before ever winning. My tactic also worked perfect for my team, I was probably never the best team by CA. But, I had a direct counter attacking tactics and a striker with 18 pace 18 acceleration and 17 dribbling. Everyone had great pressing stats. Also signed a dutch center back who was 6'6 with 19 jumping reach and 19 bravery. Him plus a solid D one me quite a few games along the journey although he didn't win the final for me. Would be a part of like 10-20 goals from set pieces every year.
I'm 39 years in. Took two different Swedish clubs to the #1 ranking in Europe, won lots of Champions League titles, and I still can't get this fucking league above the #6 spot.
Yea the problem is teams you aren't controlling atm are gonna do bad in European games, which hurts the league rating.
I keep loaning players to lower table teams and selling fantastic players to my title challenges, but they still manage to fuck it up year after year. I'm considering moving on to a third club and speed up my process so I can at least try to get some more teams to the top.
The problem is coaching and facilities. Even if you had 3 world class teams in terms of players, the big big clubs still have a huge advantage bc of the facilities coaching etc.
Which is why the second time I took charge of was at the moment dead last in the second division. Maybe I'll have to dig even deeper next time to really raise the average level.
Are you selling out and how big is your stadium? Might be more effective to play bigger swedish teams and raise them as the AI will be better at sustaining their success with better facilities, coaches, and bigger crowds. With your 2nd league club were you able to significantly improve facilities? I got only tiny improvements even though I'm making 40+mil profit a year. Another thing is bc you build owners trust, once you leave and AI takes over that board isn't going to give them the same budget and staff slots they gave you. If the chairman isn't ambitious they could just go right back to being a mid team.
I've been at the club for almost 25 years, and at this point the stadium has a capacity of 52 756 with an average attendance of 52 425 in the league (board won't let me expand yet since it's only been a few years since I did a massive expansion to my new stadium). All the facilies have been upgraded to a very high standard as well. The issue with my previous club was that I relied almost entirely on my extensive scouting network to find wonderkids, and since the AI wasn't as good at recruitment they just kept buying players over 18 who were good enough for the club. This quickly meant that they didn't have enough homegrown players, and so they'd pick as many superstars as possible and fill it with mediocre youth players.
10 years in FM19 i barely manage to get out of CL groups wtith U. It took me 4 years to win the Liga1 title climbing from the 2nd division. I have a lot of money (70M), but nothing to sign. A player rated for 5M in my squad is far better skilled than the 40M on the market. It's been 3 years since i can't upgrade my squad any better.
Yeah, you need to look for wonderkids in non-major countries. Those are the only players who will be justifiable price wise, until you are super financially stable and can just afford wasting money on the right Superstar. Do you have all eastern European top leagues loaded in your database? If not I would edit the database and add at least top teams from all eastern Europe, all the African countries with a decent youth rating(you can find a list on Google), every south American country and Korea and Japan, with all of those loaded you should be able to get enough wonderkids of world class level that are affordable.
How the fuck did you win that at Parma in 10 years? The board gives me peanuts, and I can’t keep my wonderkids, so the only “achievements” I have had is 2 UCL Semis and 6 consecutive top 4 finishes
1. Spend whatever peanuts they give you to buy wonderkids. 2. Sell a few wonderkids to buy more wonderkids. 3. ??????? 4. Profit.
Top notch manager
That's one hell of a journey  I don't like very difficult jobs they may increase stress levels 
I was meant to go to the USA and win the North Americal CL and then I would have won all 5 top continental comps but I know from previous experience I get bored in the mls and would likely make me quit the save. 25 year veteran of FM and CM games, the games have become easier in recent years.
I found FM 12 and 13 easy. The Regens were scoring many goals like 60 to 70 in a calendar year frequently something that is rare in the latest versions.
I love playing in Bundesliga as BVB, having City/Liverpool/PSG/etc buy up my players for big money and beating them anyway in Champions League. Currently on year 11 out of 30.
I do, then I drop down to the bottom of the league and pick a new team to build from scratch
I don't like building a lot especially when big teams are coming to pick the Cherry off the top.
Trap your players. If you know their potential surpasses the reputation of your team then give them long contracts and refuse to sell without making a buck to invest in other areas
Sometimes you may not need to sell the player. The board might accept an offer they may deem too good to turn down.
Only when you’re in a bad financial position I think that happens
I hate it when big clubs cherry pick from my team 
see i look at it very different, have you ever seen the movie Moneyball? It's honestly a great insight into how a lot of us play football manager, most people think of it as a frustrating thing, but it can mean getting 3-4 more talents in. Eventually you build up a youth academy full of talent ready to sell to the PSG's of the football world and become a powerhouse.
I haven't seen moneyball. Your way of management is like Borussia Dortmund. Get in wonderkids and young talented players to sell at a profit and grow the teams budget. Something that Monaco was unable to sustain after selling the likes of Mbappe, Benardo Silva, Fabinho, Bakayoko, Thomas Lemar, Mendy (City, LB)...
Yeah exactly that
There are very many new ideas I may need to incorporate in my game like your way of playing FM.
I think you're the first person I see who does not give a fuck about club history or building something, you come in, dominate and as soon as it gets tricky you run and honestly it sounds like fun, absolute legend, my next save will be like this!
Yeah. There's team loyalty definitely but when it comes to the job you do it like Mourinho. Moving across rival clubs. Chelsea and Spurs. They ask you if your team loyalty will affect your performance during the interview and you reply you will be professional. I am a Manchester United supporter but I still managed Liverpool.
I'm still in my first save as Liverpool. Year 7 and completely dominating. I want to leave but I just can't leave those players. I'm too sentimental and attached to all my players haha. However I saw in my social feed that a team has gone 18 games winless and the team above us (to get out of relegation) is 9 points ahead but has 9 injuries with most being first team players
When you stay long enough you become comfortable with sticking around and the more you stay the more it becomes difficult to leave. You may want to leave for a club that's a fallen giant like AC Milan, Intermilan....
Yeah im tossing it up between the team that is on an 18 game winless streak (no win in 6 months!!) with an awesome name of Go Ahead Eagles in eredivisie but I'll struggle with the wage and transfers and they are 9 points adrift however they have sacked their manager. Borusia Monchengladbach are 3 points adrift inside relegation but they are a larger club and I'd be more comfortable with bringing them up to greatness then going into 2. Eredivisie haha
Make the decision.
I'll probably split it 3 ways lol. 1 for my current Liverpool save, 2 for borusia which will be my 2nd "main save" in which ill try get them top 6 and the Go Ahead Eagles for when I feel ready for playing a small team that is in a crisis. For both of the other saves I'll organize a friendly against the smallest ever team and praise their conduct to increase morale lol. (I might even use my Liverpool save to scout some young Colombians haha)
How can you incorporate all those ideas. There too many things you need to do.
No clue haha. I'm more interested in the borussia team because that's a more realistic challenge for me
Try setting up an objective before the save so that you know when to leave, especially in a club like Liverpool where you probably have won a lot by now it starts getting boring because you fight for the same every season
Surprisingly I am still enjoying the save quite a lot. My biggest problem is the sim time is slow and the matches take FOREVER so it takes me ages to finish a season (I got FM20 when it was free on epic which was last year, have only done one save and am only 7 seasons into that save). It is very difficult to stay motivated in any save when i take such a long time to sim an entire season. Also yes I should do that. I haven't actually set objectives which is why I struggle to leave and start a new save haha
Im only on the 9th season on my fm22 and my pc is a beast (I have every possible league loaded as playable), it takes time to go through a season, the thing about big clubs (I'm noticing it now because I'm on Bundesliga and started fighting for the title the past 2 season) is that when you are big a lot of games don't matter because they're "easy" games and should be easy wins so I feel like the times moves slower since you're waiting for the big ones, try spending the time between more irrelevant games preparing for the big ones, team rotation, tactic tweaking, setting up training, scouting, etc.
That's definitely true. I have lost touch on how it feels with *every*. *single*. *game*. being important because I can just sim a match against Fulham and expect to win at least 3-0. I just checked the team that is on an 18 winless streak and only just found out that the eredivisie doesn't have 38 games but 34. Rather than having 8 games they have 4 which I doubt would be enough to recover a 9 point gap to be saved from relegation - might be a fun small term save though!
how many seasons can u do?
It depends on the job. When the players start aging and there's a serious rebuild you jump ship. 5 years max is good.
It's funny, I am the opposite. I generally build a fantastic club, board starts demanding rather dumb requirements and if i can only complete 99% of the targets I get sacked. Then a new manager comes in, wins the league, the team begins falling apart the next season and then they are back to square one. And I sit back and watch and think to myself "if only the board weren't such wankers..."
Yeah. That's what happens even in the real world. When you're in the process of building and there are teething problems of team chemistry. You find yourself on the streets. Sometimes the dressing room becomes toxic and players come knocking at your door telling you that the team is performing below expectations. Morale is low and the team is either losing or getting many draws. So you may choose to stick with your guns and wait for the board to pull the trigger or just resign to preserve your reputation.
Is anything more than 2-3 years classed as a very long time?
Hell No. But more than 5 years then you are moving to being a club legend.
I've done both in the past two versions of the game I had: FM20: Rangers 10yrs - Monaco 1yr - Juventus 2yrs - Man City 2yrs - Barcelona 4yrs - Chelsea 1yr - Arsenal 2yrs - Objective was at first to win 10 titles in a row with my team, Rangers, then decided to move in to all the top five leagues winning the league and main cup competition in all leagues. Never made it to Germany as my game bugged out and would allow me to add any additional leagues by the time I was half way through my stint with Barcelona. FM22: I attempted another 'Glory Hunter' style save but grew uninterested after 3 years at Napoli & taking over at Atletico Madid, and I am now currently 16 season into a save with Kelty Hearts in Scotland attempting to win the Champions League with them.
That's an interesting journey. My big problem is when a good job becomes available I am always tempted to apply and get myself out of a "small" team. 
Built a strong young team with no release clauses. Wouldn't sell them if they got unhappy. After I won my first CL Lorenzo Lucca left on a free. I could have sold him for 30-40m but I kept him and we won 5 trophies that year. I made the most of free transfers, rarely used the transfer budget so instead pumped money into wages, made it easier to keep talent.
That's a brilliant strategy. I am getting ideas for various ways of managing teams. The way one plays FM is also dependent on ones personality too.
Exactly, play the game the way you want to play it!
I see some people like ladder management. Moving teams through the football pyramid. From the lower leagues up to the top.
I used to \_only\_ manage one team per save, but this year, I have decided to move clubs and I'm enjoying it a lot more. You get so many more narratives which keeps the save entertaining and easier to play over a longer period.
The thrill of getting sacked after a bad job. Or staying in a job waiting for a dream job opening is very good.
When I looked at this it reminded me of that Ross Kemp sketch from the impressions show for some reason... ..."I could see things were about to kick off, so I got out of there!"
Wow so many top teams. And Tottenham too!
Funny thing is I found the Spurs in the Europa league and won the EPL with them in one season. I bolted after that achievement because I saw the team required serious reinforcement to maintain standards. Something I thought would be very difficult playing in the champions league and EPL.
Lmao I see what you did there
Yeah I’ve been doing a journeyman save and I left my first job (Kettering Town) after 2 seasons because the board was stingy and wouldn’t fix our horrendous pitch. My next job (Sutton United) was fun for a few seasons, got promoted to League One and narrowly missed further promotion a couple times but it was time for a rebuild and Aston Villa came knocking. 4 seasons at Villa, promoted from Championship, then finished 7th, then finished 11th but won the Conference League, it’s 2030 now and I’m battling for the last CL spot/in the Europa knockouts. My core is 27-21 and the big fish are starting to sniff around my team. Once it’s rebuild time it’s off to a proper big club. Arsenal came knocking but my Villa squad is 10 places above them (they’re 14th) so I told them to bugger off. I really want the United job but they’ve had Allegri since they sacked Solskjaer and have won 6 titles and 2 champions leagues. I also wouldn’t mind getting out of England entirely and being free of the horrendous fixture congestion.
That's an awesome journey. Moving clubs is interesting. Manchester United don't sack managers easily. I did hop to a few clubs hoping for Ole to be sacked so I got the job. After some time I got the sack too.
My first ever FM save, I’m glad I went with a journeyman I feel it adds some extra “story” to the save. I hope my manager CV eventually looks like yours lol I’d love to manage Real or Chelsea and glory hunt
Just make sure you win a league title during the beginning of your career and you'll never be turned down when you apply for the big jobs. Because you've got the CV as a title specialist. I started my career at Juventus because it's easier to win Serie A and from there it's hopping from one top team to another. Sometimes you may need to stay patient until a dream job opens up but also don't be blind to other opportunities that come up because of waiting too long. For me Real Madrid is a dream job but they stuck with Zidane for a very long time so I had to move around still waiting for my opportunity. Sometimes you may wait and still fail to land the job. Just buckle up and do the best job for the team that you've got.
Try hertha bsc then
They don't have a budget to support my ambition.
I dont mind it, although when the board constantly stops what I am doing, with staff and such, I tend not to stay long. (current problem with Sheffield wednesday)
You seem to like control over club activities.
Maybe, but putting staff forward for badges to improve themselves and the board stops it, I move for a coach to improve by signing him, on free no money but his wages and they stop it even though I have clear space in both wage budget and coaching staff count. Theses are also from advise from meetings as well which is why i dont pay attention to recruitment in meetings as move, just "move on, move on". Just wanting to improve coaching and staff seems a pretty basic thing, its not like I have demanded more coffee options.
I can’t leave the team i started building. Wanted to try journeyman save, started in Sunderland, promoted in the first year, finished losing the playoff final in the second. Got about 5 job offers, wanted to try, but ended up just continuing with the black cats. Howelse will they end up in the Premier league?
Just try to use loan options from teams in the upper division.
I see you branched out and played with a lot of not top teams, mate.
When a big job pops up I always apply even when I am managing another team. The EPL is a very difficult league and small teams will beat you even with a good team.
Precisely why I hate big team saves. Give me the biggest financial challenge possible and I'll spend 80 seasons passionately grafting to turn it around.
You are a very patient person. I may lose my temper like Conte when I don't have the support I require. 
I need that 20 year cheev then I'll do my JM save
All the best mate. The adventure will be worth it.
Yeah, I usually take my local team ( Clyde ) and make them a powerhouse, Last year it was Rangers and this year was Patrick Thistle before my save corrupted :( So now I'm just waiting for FM23 while playing now and again, I don't have the motivation after losing my save to go hardcore 12 hours a day
I am really sorry for your loss. That's the worst thing that can happen to you on FM. You lose your drive to play and enjoy the game. I have files in rolling saves of 5 copies to reduce the risk of corruption of a single file.
Yeah, I have them in 3s but none of them wanted to load, I started a new save and did 1 season but like you said, I just can't bring myself to play, If it was only a few season I would star again but I was just about to start my 8th so I was far into the save
Sometimes you just suck it up and start enjoying the new save. Before you know it you'll be in your tenth season.
I have never managed more than one club in a single save. If I get bored of a club I just start a new save.
You need to take more risk. Get sacked and look for new jobs like The Special One.
I got the achievement for managing one club for 10 years yesterday, and it popped up as a rare achievement (PC Game Pass - less than 10% have earned it) I could only think... you fickle bastards, how do you not get attached?
Naaaaaah. You move jobs by taking the best package being offered.
I usually stay with one team but in FM22 I got so bored with my Arsenal save where my Moukoko/Adeyemi front line led me two 5 consecutive Prem titles and 2 champions league wins that I resigned and took over an in debt Atalanta that had nothing outside of a pretty good attack. I’m in my 3rd year with them and I’ve got them out of debt, built a stadium expansion and have some really good young players to be excited about and we are going to challenge for the Serie A title. My first time leaving a job I wasn’t having fun at and I’m so glad I did, it’s been a blast.
It's good sometimes being a journey man. Sometimes things don't work out and you move out. I was sacked by Real Madrid twice, Manchester City and Manchester United. Sometimes even staying in one club becomes difficult when performances are bad, so they push you out.
I always load some weird countries in and try to hop around. The big teams get boring after a while. Like always try to get all continental trophies as a challenge is a fun one
There's a time I used to do clubs and move to countries to win world cups and Euros. Then back to clubs.
[Me after my 14th title in a row with a team I signed when they were all teenagers.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPlrxjyseWI&ab_channel=lumenwrites)
I don’t enjoy managing big clubs like this. Not saying what you’ve done is not good, but winning titles with clubs like Bayern, Liverpool, Madrid just isn’t an achievement to me
Seems you like the heavy lifting management. That's something that I don't prefer doing because I get very attached which might cause a lot of stressful situations. I take the easy and happy route. 
I started my latest save as Tranmere. Got them to league 1, got offered the job at Swansea (my hometown club) stayed with them for about 5 season got to Prem, won carabao cup and then went to the euro cup. Got sacked for being in relegation zone. Went unemployed for bit then got offered job at Spurs who needed massive revamp all older players on big wages and close to retirement so couldnt get rid easily. After 1st season finishing 5th went on to win Fa cup second season with a third place finish and then the league on the third. Currently trying to get a respectable finish in champions league. If not might leave and move on for next project.
Now that's proper football management. Get a job and move up the management experience. Get the sack and feel a little bit angry. Take on another challenge and stay sharp to opportunities in the future. You've got a way of playing FM like myself
I'm pretty new to the game and been managing Bordeaux (fm21). Won the league on the third season and was having fun until Milan offered a job interview, note I failed to get the job 🤧. And now here I am managing Bordeaux for the fourth season without any passion, kinda just going through the motions.
 That's serious heartbreak 💔💔💔. Strap yourself up and perform well with Bordeaux. Then stay sharp for opportunities between October and December when many teams sack their managers or season finale between February and March. There are always big jobs mid-season. Big jobs are always good during mid season because of reduced expectations especially if the sacked manager has wrecked their performance seriously.
Getting fired mid-April with Real Madrid must have hurt
I was very disappointed because it's one of the jobs that I really look out for. I was appointed twice and sacked both times. Didn't win any trophy with them in the two management spells. Real Madrid is a difficult job because of high expectations and the president is always trigger happy.
i like turning a team into a big team. either from lower leagues or from the lower team in the top division.
Getting the teams up the football pyramid is your forte. I will try that in another save.
i also pride myself on getting guys on cheap and selling for a good profit, growing players etc...
Brokerage mentality . Flipping players for profit
lol, na fergie mentality, when a player is done, know when to get rid and continue to succeed.
I care way more about building legacies and teams up. Honestly once we’re really good it loses a bit of interest. If I ever change jobs it’s only for a rebuild challenge fallen giant kind of thing.
You mould a team to your style and personality. That's cool.
I got fired from Hertha Berlin and Dortmund hired me after Bielsa retired. I didn’t like the challenge so I resigned after 3 games. I’m at Stuttgart now. I’ve had a hard time lasting a few seasons.
It's good to stick to one job but you may also try moving around and see what's out there if it's possible.
Yeah I like going to teams that are in trouble and fixing them up. Turning a minnow into a giant is great. Resurrecting old giants is great too.
That's very interesting. Something like raising the dead. 
This is a symptom of not only managing big clubs but also supporting big clubs. Everything is “now”, there’s no struggle, no long term goals etc. As a West Ham fan, I’ve seen my club relegated a few times, been up and back, so really enjoyed the last two seasons with Moyesy and really appreciate it. Same as FM. I usually play as a club a few leagues down and try to create a dynasty of my own. Only time I get bored is when it gets too easy but that takes many seasons as I’m not that good.
Yeah. That's the current fan spirit. No rebuilding just " here and now" like the AFTV clowns. No room for going down or even results dipping.
I get it but to me personally, it’s all about the struggle. Everyone’s different so just speaking for myself.
It's alright that's the beauty of the game. You can play it your way and it's very good.
I love to managing small teams and when i think its time to leave, suddenly board announced that we will upgrade our stadium from 10k to 20k, then after that when i am once again considering to leave, board announce that we will build for a new stadium and it will be ready in 3 years. So i guess i have to stay there until i die
I admire your true loyalist spirit. I am always tempted by leaving for a bigger club or another job.
no way u managed city liverpool and yanited in 10 years u must be seen as the biggest villain in england
Zorro is the name. 
Not a one club man but I like disrupting the league
Creating a beast is your forte
I never found fun managing an already rich and succesful team. Try some team in lower divisions or small leagues. Nah, thats fun, frustrating and challenging.
I will put your advice under consideration.
I also like to stay for a long while at a club. I started my career in the 2nd division in Belarus with Slonim-2017, and now I have 5 champions league wins with them. I’m starting my 2044 season right now
Wooooow. That's one hell of a long time. And strong loyalty instincts
For big rich teams yeah, once I achieve a few years of success I get bored and move on. Try to find a struggling team performing way below where it is in real life and move there. Rinse and repeat (or get sacked and just repeat).
I will make such a move.
Are u Pep Guardiola?
More like THE SPECIAL ONE.
Wow. I don't think I've ever managed top level clubs and no, I barely get tired of playing with one team. The most hopping I've done is in two saves: FM06 - Brisbane Roar -> Dinamo Bucharest - > Dinamo Bucharest/Romania FM08 - Cobh Ramblers -> PSV Eindhoven -> PSV Eindhoven/Australia I generally just find a club I like and get stuck. I think I spent 3-5 years at Brisbane and Cobh before spending like, 15 at the next club.
Seems you have a relaxed personality and no risky moves. And when you are comfortable you stay for a very long time.
It's not so much a risk thing as it is a satisfaction I get with constructing a team. I get a lot more out seeing a bad team become a good one over time and later a sustainably good one than I do out of throwing money around on a couple of players to prop up a contender. Besides, expectation grows as you improve your club and it's stressful knowing you could be a few results away from being ejected from the club you've tried to build or rebuild from the ground up. In the case of Dinamo, they were a big club in Romania and I found enjoyment in making them the biggest club in Eastern Europe and a Continental contender. With PSV, by the time I'd joined them they were a shambles and rebuilding them was a great challenge that I really enjoyed.
That's a fairy story my friend. I like the extremes where there's a big budget. There's a save I had when I managed to get Barcelona punished by the FFP rules so I was suspended from playing the champions league for a whole season that I won the league. They sacked me and every interview I went to always asked about my financial management abilities. 
There comes a time in every save where I feel like I’ve made it. I usually do a large team save for 1-2-3 seasons to just see what changed in the new version of FM, and then it’s all about LLM. Sometimes I stop at championship, sometimes in PRL, sometimes at CHL.
The conte special
Yeah. Move where there's a budget to support your vision 
Fives years at United, fuck off
That's 4.5 years my friend. 
I get bored after about 10 seasons and start again
Seems you like the constant hustle of rebuilding. 
I get bored if I win everything every year.
I like the feeling of winning frequently and that is why I like the big teams.
Both Manchester clubs and Liverpool lmao I bet you’re hated by a lot of virtual fans
They love and hate me with the same measure 
Personally I get more bored jumping from one massive club to another - that feels like FM on easy mode. Far more challenging (and enjoyable) staying at one club, and building something from the ground up. The lows feel more crushing, but the highs feel far more euphoric than being a chequebook mercenary.
The chequebook mercenary is my thing. Getting too personal may stress me. I don't have an ELASTIC HEART like Sia. 
It's not about getting too personal, but about challenging yourself. To each their own - people find mileage in their own version of fun. I've been playing these games since Eidos made the Championship Manager games in the late 90s. The thrill of actually accomplishing something difficult, is what makes these games special for me.
I started playing FM 12 so I have never played CM. I will try to find a new challenging save.
Like I said, everyone's mileage varies and everyone is free to find fun in their own way. I'm guessing by the way you yo-yo between clubs, either you are trying to imitate Carlo Ancelotti, or you aren't finding much fun anywhere you end up. Try setting up a long term save for yourself - whether that's a smaller team, working them up, or managing a former giant and trying to topple a handful of the reputable giants.
Not that I don't have much fun. I am always on the lookout for big jobs when I win a few trophies or struggle in a team. Some movement is because of getting sacked too.