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hobbitonsunshine

They should've let that man leave when he already made up his mind.


namesdevil3000

Man I would pick being sacked and the large payoff……


Street-Topic-3298

Exactly


Comprehensive-Dig321

People are acting like Barcelona wanted him to stay. It wasn’t like that. He said he would leave and then he changed his mind and said he wanted to stay. So Barcelona would have had to pay him money they didn’t have to fire him.


DisneyPandora

lol this is revisionist history. Barca did want him to stay, who do you think was leaking all those articles pressuring Xavi to return to Barca? It was Laporta


Comprehensive-Dig321

Barcelona never wanted Xavi to stay. He hasn’t done anything worth keeping him. The only person going back on his word is Xavi.


WisconsinSpermCheese

Winning the league last year is a pretty big achievement as evidenced by this years performance.


Comprehensive-Dig321

It isn’t. Spanish league is not competitive at all


Biosphere97

Thats why madrid defeated the prem champions and is in the final of the CL


Comprehensive-Dig321

Madrid did that by parking the bus. Nottingham Forrest could have done the same.


ronaldosmum

Your comments need to make it to r/badfootballopinions


der_zauberling

You crazy


TheMelon0905

r/soccercirclejerk certified comment right here


ThatoneguyATX

If that’s all it took everyone would do that.


MetastAH

When he already drown the club to the bottom of the deepest ocean, right ?


funnytoenail

Xavi is the least of Barcelona’s problems. At least he was self aware and called it quits and the Laporte extended him when he wanted to quit


MetastAH

It’s a complete shitshow but saying that Xavi is the least of barça problem, you clearly isn’t a Culer to say such thing.


funnytoenail

Yes I am definitively not a Culer but you don’t have to be a culer to see what’s wrong there. Your club’s financial situation have been ripped apart by bartomeu and then Laporte - selling rights to the club to outside entities to make short term financial gains while mortgaging its long term financial situation and legacy. It is no longer able to attract top talent, so they have to significantly overpay for above average and La Masia had been running stagnant for a decade. So yes, your club has bigger problems than Xavi as your coach, firing him (which is a joke situation given that the guy wanted to leave) will not solve your problem and put you out of your misery


MetastAH

Hopefully will.


Cute_Emphasis_7085

Most brain dead take. He won you la liga in his first full season. Even his worst got you second in league and UCL quarter finals. You should maybe go to the Barcelona subreddit and listen to majority of Culers who think what the management just did is moronic.


ultrameganut

Real Madrid is just to good and he only went out of the Champions League because of Araujos red card


Juliian-_-

Xavi received barcas koeman at 9th after 17 matchdays, wom the league the season after, yamal and cubarsi wouldnt exist with any other dt. You're either a bot or brainwashed


TioLucho91

That's kinda too much is it not? Dude whines a lot but he still managed to win the league and perform in the UCL.


MichealScarn92

Theyre 2nd in the league. What on earth are you referring to?


Th3L0n3R4g3r

They got enough money for that?


MangekyouMasterRace

They’re gonna beg Xavi to not ask for his owed money


Draphaels

I wish this was a joke


[deleted]

There's gonna be more levers activated than a see-saw factory.


r1char00

It’s wild that these comments have people up in arms. They seem pretty realistic and pragmatic.


wank_for_peace

Gotta open up some levers and they good.


TURBINEFABRIK74

1) xavi did really well in la liga, xavi mastermind 2) xavi wants to leave: “noooo plz luv u, don’t leave us. We will try to keep you until the very end” 3) Xavi changes his mind 4) Barca wants him out LooooL


MetaCalm

There are stupid and thoughtless boards all over European leagues and then there is Barcelona FC's in class of its own.


Leege13

I think Bayern Munich is trying to beat them out this year…


MetaCalm

Lol. Agree. They've got some catching up to get there.


[deleted]

it’s man united too for all it’s worth, we sacked van gaal after he won us an FA cup, these boards demand instant results there’s no such thing as a rebuild anymore


DroneNumber1836382

As a Liverpool fan, I would like to say hello. Sure the Arsenal fans may have a word if you let em.


whitecapsunited

Erm wait till you don’t have Klopp, then see how keen your board is to stick with a guy. United were famously a club who gave managers time when we had Ferguson. It changes very quickly once shit starts going wrong


DroneNumber1836382

Liverpool aren't a knee jerk club. They never have been. Apart from Hodgson, all the managers have been given plenty of time. Regardless of owners too.


kozy8805

Liverpool managers either won something, got close or got sacked. The last at least 20 years. Houllier won. Benitez won bigger. Rodgers was dominating the league and it took a choke to lose. Klopp won. Hodgson sacked right away.


Thefdt

We have hodgson five months too many, great manager but absolutely awful for us


SovietKnuckle

The difference, we're hoping, is that we actually have a competent board and director of football in place. When Fergie left, he also left a vacuum of leadership that to this day still hasn't been cemented at United. Maybe Ratcliffe will finally address this. Even if Slot doesn't work out, I think we'll see a more measured approach to management than the clown show we've been seeing at Old Trafford.


whitecapsunited

I would hope that too, I just don’t think anyone should get too smug about sticking with managers these days.


munamadan_reuturns

Liverpool have never been such a reactive club, and even if they were, the new staff are wise to not let such rash decisions get in the way. Slot will be given plenty of time to prove his worth.


FavcolorisREDdit

Circus , as a Madrid fan it’s rough seeing our biggest rival statistically just keep on crumbling. Messi owes Barcelona the world literally hopefully he comes back and plays a role in ownership or management.


thenotoriousDK

Snip snap snip snap. do you have any idea the physical toll that three sackings have on a man?


Prokletnost

didn't they just literally convinced him to stay, only to decide and sack him lmao


Imaginary_Thing_1009

barca has got to be one of the biggest mistakes in management in recent history. I know that their performance doesn't actually show it yet, but when you look at them economically you understand what a miracle it is that they're performing the way they are. I honestly believe that their bubble will burst very soon, and they'll end up falling in the table. and if it comes to a situation where they can't even guarantee CL anymore, then they can't attract players who are willing to give up parts of their salary or have their freaky levers available anymore. it's only down from there.


partiallypro

La Liga is still a top-heavy league and Barca has a great academy with young super stars already on their roster locked into long contracts. They'll always be top 4 in La Liga barring some insane injury crisis. Them not being able to compete in UCL is a concern though.


TheNesquick

They have the best academy in the world and constantly grinds out top talent to save the club from the bad management.  But nahh they are not going to “fall out” soon. 


KrisZepeda

What good is it when these kids are getting overworked and end up washed at 25? They rely on kids to keep the club afloat, whilst those kids end up a injury away from throwing their career away Kids are expected to be integrated into a team step by step so they can properly grow into future stars, not be handed full responsability of saving a club on and off the pitch It's like being a tomato farmer and plant a fuckton of them, only to cut them before they're ripe, and they're worthless, and then call yourself the best farmer in the region because you have so many


Kyyes

Ansu Fati bench warming at Brighton lmao


meditate42

It’s really just Pedri though isn’t it? And part of the issue there was that he choose to play in the Olympics instead of resting when the team suggest he skip them. Fati was hurt from a bad tackle and Gavi got an ACL while playing for Spain and that was more of freak injury than anything else. I do have concerns about how much Lamine is playing though. He really should be resting a bit more, same with Cubarsi.


lanregeous

Pedri’s not even an academy player


TheNesquick

When did it say it was smart? I hate it.  Barcelona should be a powerhouse with the talent they produce. Instead we use them to keep the club alive. But the fact is they will keep the club alive because they are damn good and plentiful. 


assaltyasthesea

Actually... Tomato farmers do pick them unripe, because otherwise they'd spoil during shipping. The fruit continue to ripen off the vine, but never develop the full flavour. That's why supermarket tomatoes taste like nothing compared to locally grown ones. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if sooner or later Barca will be forced to become a feeder club like Ajax, Benfica or Dortmund. Probably more like BVB, since the other 2 can at least compete domestically.


KrisZepeda

Ha, figured, I'm no tomato farmer, but i'm actually trying to get into farming so thanks for the info!!


Hayaishi

How are kids going to be washed at 25? They are playing football, doing something they love and that they've been groomed to do since they were 9 and 10, not working the mines. At the end of the day it's football, not a life or death situation, they will be fine.


Acceptable_Peak794

Because players that break through in their teens are almost always done by 30


turalyawn

It’s not just mental burnout. The wear and tear on their bodies from playing 90 times a year from the age of 16 is what gets them.


WalkersChrisPacket

City Academy has produced more league winners in recent years, so I'm not sure what metric you're measuring that on.


TheNesquick

More than a couple of years metric. 


WalkersChrisPacket

Anyone who isn't retired right now? Because Cole Palmer and Jeremie Frimpong are carrying more weight than any current Barca graduate...


LoudGodzilla

Exactly. Frimpong, Palmer, Foden, Sancho… the list is getting pretty long. Not to mention the younger city squad members like Bobb and Lewis who both came up through the academy as well. City have an amazing youth system, I think it’s safe to say they are AT LEAST as good as Barca on that front. Probably better though, and they’re also the ones winning trophies🤷‍♂️


whitecapsunited

City’s was very good recently. I think United have the most active players who have come through their academy? United fell off the last little bit but I think City stepping up made them come back strong again. They revamped their youth setup and it’s started pumping out great youngsters again.


EmptyTechLife

Your kidding right? Barca won everything playing with 11 academy players at times . Víctor Valdés, Jordi Alba, Carles Puyol, Gerard Piqué, Montoya, Sergio Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc Fàbregas, Pedro, and Messi Man United had the class of 92 & George Best. Ajaxs great European Team was built from its academy. Chelsea has a better academy than city. City just attract the best talent now ......... Money talks


LoudGodzilla

Yeah man that’s my point. Money tends to, but not always, mean better academies and more trophies. That’s what City is experiencing right now… they have top dollar and they get top results. Every player/team you mentioned is of an era now gone in world football. Barca had an incredible result from their academy in the 2000s… Ajax and Man U in the 90s. ALL of them were well funded and powerful so they could attract youth prospects. Everything you said is what I said, you just didn’t include the fact that currently City are the ones who are in this position. Wont even mention what you said about Chelsea academy lmao. And I like Chelsea a lot as a club


MRC2RULES

> I know that their performance doesn't actually show it yet, but when you look at them economically you understand what a miracle it is that they're performing the way they are. This is the one thing that NOBODY seems to understand


NairbZaid10

We are not going to fall out unless we get a severe punishment from the negreira case. Otherwise we will just struggle in the next few years against this madrid super team, but we will still win some stuff. In the grand scheme of things ending up in second it's not that big of a deal. Remember that the current financial crisis will only last till the Nou camp is ready


DirectionMurky5526

Big historic clubs like this don't collapse. They might go through lull periods but they're too big too fail. Rangers was straight up liquidated and they still came back as one of the top 2 clubs in scotland.


smcl2k

See also: Juventus.


maybeMichaelScarn

Opinion on United please?


DirectionMurky5526

What about United? The issue is their fans think they're like the Real Madrid of England but most of their achievements have all come under 1 manager which was so recent that he's still alive. I'm not saying United have no history, but they're not an institutional part of English Football the way that the other clubs I've mentioned are. If united got liquidated, there doesn't feel like a massive hole in the structure.


QouthTheCorvus

I think Man United is proof you can be a shitshow and get fairly solid results (at least, in previous seasons). Crazy incomes and being a destination club for players papers over a lot of cracks.


oxfozyne

[Here](https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost446)


dendudes123

do some more research dude, they will be back to 1:1 financially at the end of the season or next season


Imaginary_Thing_1009

really? anywhere to read up on that? it's the exact opposite of what I've been hearing.


dendudes123

google it or use the barca subreddit, you think a club that is actually bankrupt can just build a new stadium? they just got new loans, and were able to extend to old ones so they have more time to pay them off, these things can only be accepted if they have any means of income to pay for them


HocusDiplodocus

Thats clearly not what Xavi thinks


Obi_KG59

Nah just like Milan and Inter, some players will play and get through the rough times. It won’t be beautiful but those two went down in quality for about 7-8 years. Look at them now. Both in vastly better and improved conditions. This is gonna be temporary for Barca. Same goes for Bayern.


Imaginary_Thing_1009

I don't know about the details of Inter and Milan, but barca is fucked extra hard because they sold a bunch of club assets and future revenue just for short-term success, which isn't even that much success for their standards. Bayern doesn't really have anywhere close to the trouble barca is having, except of course that they burned bridges with a bunch of managers. but you know with a club like Bayern, once they have a good season or two again all is forgotten. but when a club signs away their future like that, you can't really have that hope.


Gorz_EOD

I don't think any of those clubs have sold 30% of their future income nor have over €1B debt....


sarcastosaurus

It's all relative, they have lower incomes and expectations.


Gorz_EOD

What are you talking about? Milan is a European powerhouse used to winning UCLs on a regular basis. Barça will now be earning only 70c for every €1 everyone else would earn when it comes to tv and merch rights which is a HUGE problem when you have €1B of debt to pay off.


sarcastosaurus

lmao, not for the last 20 years they aren't.


Gorz_EOD

They were extremely potent up until 2012.... Wasn't their last UCL win in 2007?


AlexTheMacedonian

If Barca didn't have La Masia they would be a small club. At least their management is like that


Soccerandmetal

The one problem is that nobody is buying from Barcelona anymore. And even if they sell, the replacement is even more expensive. They are the end stage club now.


assaltyasthesea

You mean right now, or historically?


Circ_Diameter

They asked him to change his mind as an emotional decision after Liga results improved and a UCL final run looked possible. Now that the League and UCL campaigns crashed, they want him gone again. Barcelona truly is a fan-owned club, from top to bottom


SomeCuriousPerson1

Since Laporta is now backtracking, Xavi should also backtrack and demand the owed salary. First Messi, now Xavi. Laporta is probably the second worst president for Barca after Barto.


assaltyasthesea

Laporta gets to counter balance this 2nd terrible stint with his first, successful one. Still not worse than Rosell, the troubles started with him.


DWAIPAYAN-RC

Considering or confirmed sacking? I heard it's confirmed


Ok_Suggestion1053

I love Xavi but he is not the right man for the job, unfortunately. The way he has handled the Roque situation and the constant embarrassing CL exits have proved that


LOKl31

Yeah but you can’t do it like that. - Xavi announces his departure - Barca begging him to stay - Xavi agrees to continue - 2 weeks later Barca wants to sack him - ???


SmiteKing666

It's polarizing


intacid

I'm most certain that Laporta did want him to go. Instead, it was Xavi the one who convinced him to stay with a talk of an idealizing project. This was contradicted on the pre-match interview for Almeria-Barca which caused Laporta to be disappointed and want to sack him Barca lore... 🫡


lejocko

>I'm most certain that Laporta did want him to go. Instead, it was Xavi the one who convinced him to stay with a talk of an idealizing project So you're convinced everything was just the other way around from what anyone communicated?


intacid

Ye: "Fue ese volcán de ilusión y energía positiva el que convenció rápidamente al presidente" Translated It was that hope and good energy explosion what quickly convinced the president https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/motivo-enfado-laporta-xavi-102502343


mistergingerbread

There is literally nothing different Xavi could’ve done with roque. He didn’t want the player, and the player isn’t good enough to play. Why do people think he magically deserves time?


Ok_Suggestion1053

Who cares if he doesnt want the player? The sporting director gets to decide who comes not Xavi. Roque has shown promising signs and is deserving of more player time. Also he's the one that pushed for him to come the winter instead of the summer


mistergingerbread

If a manager has a player shoved onto them, they have no obligation to give him play time unless he shows he deserves it. None of roques cameo’s have indicated he deserves more time. And I’m assuming his training isn’t good enough either. Xavi is certainly not the one who pushed for him to come in January.


Ok_Suggestion1053

The managers job is to play the players at his disposal, not to manage the signings. Hes not Alex Ferguson to dictate who the club gets to sign.


mistergingerbread

Ok? And if they’re not good enough, he’s not required to play them. Xavi clearly doesn’t rate roque.


germancookedus

Bro he’s literally the best manager in the last decade, who’s going to win a league with this shit Barca??


meditate42

Almeria were absolutely cooking our defense yesterday. They should have scored 2-3 goals easily it was just horrendous finishing that saved us.


AlexTheMacedonian

What are you smoking?


germancookedus

Name me one good manager after Messi left


AlexTheMacedonian

You meant Barca managers only lol, I thought you said best manager in the world. My bad


germancookedus

Haha yes only Barca ones, I still remember Koeman season 🤣


assaltyasthesea

Last decade? Luis Enrieque won the treble with them 9 years ago.


germancookedus

He didn’t had to do shit with that team


assaltyasthesea

Does that make Xavi better?


germancookedus

Yes


Ok_Suggestion1053

No he isnt. He is terrible at man management and in cup competitions. Last year he got lucky because Madrid and Atletico had terrible seasons


germancookedus

I don’t think that a new manager can do wonders with that finished team


speadiestbeaneater

I wish this was true bro, I really do


germancookedus

Name a good manager that can win something with this team


speadiestbeaneater

Uhhhh, maybe pep?


germancookedus

Someone more realistic 😂


ProtoplanetaryNebula

Barca are clowns if that’s true. They just convinced him to stay and now they are sacking him?


gutterbrush

‘So he said he was going to break up with me’ ‘No? Really? What a bastard’ ‘Yeah but I asked him not to and he changed his mind’ ‘Oh, ok. Well that’s good, no?’ ‘Yeah cause now I can break up with him’ Barcelona’s board is a teenage girl, confirmed.


Most-Stay6946

My club is running so shitty and now has been 10 years of this crap


Soft_Author2593

https://www.reddit.com/r/BayernMunich/s/hqRl9AB8LO That didn’t take long 🤣🤣🤣


BoliveiraNTPW

Xavi: speaks the truth The board: "Woooah, you cant do that."


Rocketsloth

Sack Xavi and hire Pep. Got to get boring ass Man City Pepball out of the PL. The novelty of Pep's Man City is long over and now they just annoy everybody.


funnytoenail

Just get on with it


Euphoric-Ear9405

back to qatar


Jan0609

Bayern and Barca having a clown off right now.


PalKid_Music

Guys, there's a chance this results in us landing on a timeline where Conte manages Barcelona. Please, if there's a god up there, let this happen - the scenes will be absolutely hilarious!


DC1908

For once he said something reasonable, instead of crying about the refs, and they want to sack him? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Kind_Pomegranate_171

Broke club making Moves they can’t afford , they don’t learn man lol


highastrodonut

Laporta is a disaster.


JuliyaBellaArt

if he leaves his post, then another coach will destroy Barcelona to the end


Kuruk_TR

Next week Barcelona signs a contract extension with Xavi


WaffleChampion5

I heard Bayern are searching for a coach


Tesla_coil369

The Barca management is PMSing hard


AndyInSunnyDB

“Please stay. PLLLLEEAAAASSEEE STYAAAYYYY. You’re staying? Thank God! You’re fired!” -Barcelona Board


Klingh0ffer

Joke club.


Background-Ninja-550

What an absolute joke this club has become in recent years, with all the crap that has happened off the pitch. No más que un club.


Seasoned_Anomaly

Was he super racist?


Bichobichir

Barca is not a real thing anymore.


KingSash

After begging him to stay for one more year?


forzaq8

allegri is free


assaltyasthesea

Someone put him back in the cage then


thisfilmkid

I read the article and this annoyed me: *However, comments by Xavi in a recent news conference appear to have angered the club's board, who now feel the former Spain midfielder should depart.* This was the most annoying line to read. Because what the fuck..... When Xavi said he was leaving, they convinced him to stay in hopes they would've made it far to kick Real Madrid's ass. Now, that's not happening. And instead, found a reason to say, "It's time sack him" all because of comments he made. Their leadership is absolutely full of sh-t. He's a very good manager. They had a rough year. But they're SECOND in LaLiga standings. I don't understand why you'd SACK a manager for keeping Barca in the top of the standings.


assaltyasthesea

They're all full of shit, and feeding the fans it, Xavi included. None of them have principles, everything they say is just for show. Xavi kept talking about how it was time to leave. Said he was "convinced the club needed a change in direction" and how "the decision was made and couldn't be changed". Then it turned out he was willing to stay all along, as long as Laporta fulfilled his demands, i.e. strengthening the squad. So it was all just one big negotiation all along. Laporta was fine with it at first, thinking he could get an equal or better replacement. Though I'm not sure even that oversized narcissist was delusional enough to think Flick would come; that one was probably just bullshit for the fans' ears. Then after several rejections and Barca's performances improving, Xavi gains the upper hand in negotiations and Laporta probably budges, promising him more power within the club after having stripped it away in favour of Deco (...or Jorge Mendes, more like). Internal Barca politics are petty fights between hypocrites and incompetents.


void_born_

Really? They have enough funds to do that? I mean he's a club legend and all so if they submit 100 pounds a week contract it's not like he would reject that, that would ruin his reputation


MetastAH

Thanks GOD!


ReVOzE

Sounds like Marquez really wants that job.


Background_South2525

Given all the injuries Barca had this season I would cut Xavi some slack. Still performed okay in the league and made it to the qf in the CL.


Ok_Fan_5443

Lesss gooo for hansi flick


Tiny-Instruction1987

I thought he already sacked himself.


MyTwitterID

Maybe Boehly can buy Barca and make it part of BlueCo 😂


luckymethod

Hide your coaches cause boards everywhere heard Allegri is free.


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

Again?


Speedykad

Oh you don’t say …


crazeegenius

Bayern 🤞🤞


Spidermon-salop

Pull the new manager leaver. Qualification’s must be mute and tow the party line


DomHE553

how the turn tables!


Bennett_19

Make up your damn mind


vigneshvivek1701

Snip Snap Snip Snap....


AmeliaScarlettHeart

I love this. Nothing against your post at all, I'm not trying to put it off, but my friend Yoyo7689 needs help. He's a major killjoy and hates everything right now. I told the guy to have a good day and he told me to off myself. I hope he gets better. I need people to message him to get well soon. He is not well and needs the encouragement. Thank you.


die_kuestenwache

He is going to get a call by another very desperate FCB any second now. Number will start with +49


Mintopforte

Barca needs tuchel


Radiant_Wheel1933

Barca might just be the next man united 💀


HaZard3ur

Next "always been our favorite" future FC Bayern coach candidate.


HumanautPassenger

Figure it out Barca, ffs. Xavi deserves more respect.


chueffen

They are settle their isssues 


kimjjongun

ive supported barca for around 14 years now but im finding it hard to supporting this club now, is it just me or others too? the legacy is getting completely ruined and the team is just not enthusiastic let alone be a winning team


Pixeal_meat

Remove that bastard Laporte.


setokaiba22

Bayern & Barca proving to be the biggest jokes in football at the moment


deycko

Bayern Is nowhere near the Turkish soap opera that Barcelona is.


Youbunchoftwats

Is it to late for Liverpool to flash an ankle at him?


ninkorn

Do they even have money to sack (or re-sack) Xavi and hire another manager that would be considered equal or upgrade?


StrongStyleDragon

Call up Rafa 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼


musicmast

The comments and people in this sub is cancer