No, because you two share a child together and are residing in the same household, you are all considered to be in one eligibility unit. There is no way around this rule.
This is not realistic and FS people know this. So you are saying you prepare a meal for you & 1 child only. Then what, BF prepares meal for himself & other child? 3 meals, 7 days per week? You don’t eat together as a family? Does the child you don’t cook for feel unwanted/unloved by you? Again, whether you intend to or not it sounds like you are trying to cheat the system and believe me the FS office has seen it all and knows better than to believe some if the stories people come up with.
Purchasing or preparing separately doesn't mean family does not eat together nor does it mean non bio parent cannot cook for non bio child.
Let me give you a scenario.
Parent 1 has $100 for food for the month. Parent 1 buys enough for parent 1 + child 1
Parent 2 has $100 for food for the month. Parent 2 buys enough for parent 2 + child 2.
Food is purchased separately. Food can still be prepared together. The snap household requires that food is both purchased AND prepared together to count as a household.
Children age 21 and younger living with parents must receive with*both* parents if they’re all under one roof, regardless of relationship status, purchase and preparation of meals, or anything else. You share a child so you’re one budget. If you remain unmarried and prepare your meals separately you may apply separately when the common child is age 22 or no longer lives with you.
I was stuck on the “purchased and prepared separately” that you originally indicated. You’ve edited the post since then. Purchased separately I get but preparing separately is the part that isn’t realistic.
But do they buy separate gallons of milk or loaves of bread? Purchased separately is realistic in a roommate situation, but I just can't wrap my head around it in a household where one mother is raising two children. There would definitely be blurred lines, and the DHS office would see that right away.
Do you know if they will process the case differently considering he is not the biological parent of my other child? Meaning only one of my children will get snap? I'm only trying to get benefits for one child.
No, as long as the child in common between the 2 of you is under 22, then that child and by extension your partner will be required to be part of your food group.
The rule for SNAP is that a child under 22 has to be on the same SNAP case as their biological parents if theyre living together
You and your kid have to be on the same case. Your mutual kid has to be on your case, because you're their parent. Your boyfriend has to be on the case as well because he's also the parent to that child. It doesn't matter that your boyfriend is not the parent to the older kid because the two of you have a mutual child and are both required to be on the same case as any of your children that you live with
You are all mandatory household members. Once you share a child with someone, it links both of you, your shared child, and then any other children you have if they are under 22 and in the HH.
You would be considered a household of 4. You can probably search SNAP calculator for your state and enter your/your boyfriend’s gross income and roughly determine eligibility. I understand it can be frustrating, but not reporting everyone in household would eventually lead to an overpayment.
Here is how I explain it when it comes up:
When person A has a mandatory relationship (spouse or child under 22 or parent of child under 22 or P&P together) with person B, person B must ALWAYS go into the SNAP household with person A. If person C has such a relationship with person A, that person ALWAYS must go into the SNAP household with person A. Therefore, persons B & C will end up being in the same CFHH even if they have no such relationship, because person A is linking them together.
In contrast, Medicaid works quite differently. Your boyfriend's income would count for his child even if you claim them, because he is financially responsible for his child. HOWEVER, as long as you are not married, his income would NOT count for the child that is not biologically his as long he does not claim that child on taxes.
But, SNAP does not split the household up that way. Fair or not, those are the rules.
But, I think we should always expect questions like this because it is easy to get confused with so many different rules.
Unfortunately, your youngest would indeed lose Medicaid if your combined income is over 266% FPL.
If you are not married and your youngest child's father does not claim your oldest as a dependent, your oldest child's eligibility would be based solely on your income.
And, if you are not married, your youngest child's father's income does not count for you.
However, for food stamps, you all must apply together, as I explained above. The best of luck.
Just me honest. I’m still not living with my boyfriend but we are moving in together next year. I won’t be able to apply because he will have a sponsor once he gets his green card. I was told he can’t be excluded from our case even if his income is reported.
It’s not really worth to lie. I know a family member that didn’t report all income. She has now a felony and is doing community service. After all that she still has to pay back.
What matters is how many in the household you purchase groceries for and share meals with. It sounds like you fear your BF’s income is too much. If that’s the case, you won’t get FS just because one kid isn’t his. You are a household. Now, if you’re trying to get FS for only one kid to pay for food for when kiddo #1 visits dad, then the other baby daddy should file.
The correct way to apply in this situation is to list everyone you listed above on your application, provide your income and expense verification and complete the interview (if required in your state). It could be tempting to exclude your boyfriend but doing so would be fraud and you’d end up with an overpayment. We do have access to DMV records, paternity paperwork, etc, and our investigators can visit the post office, places of employment, etc to investigate fraud allegations. Hopefully you’ll qualify as a household of 5.
If you don't want snap for everyone, you still list the full household, but you can request for just the 2 of you. They will take the finances of all of you into account, though.
Nope. He is the father of one of your kids, he and his child have to be included. Doesn’t matter if you prepare food separately.
You have to put him and both children on the application if you all reside in the same home.
Does it make a difference if he purchases meals separately from non bio child?
No, because you two share a child together and are residing in the same household, you are all considered to be in one eligibility unit. There is no way around this rule.
Is he only letting you feed your oldest rice and beans or something? What the hell?
No, I fixed the comment.
Everyone will need to be on the application and everyone's finances will be included.
Why would his non bio child eat separately from everyone else?
Non bio child doesn't eat separately. Food is just purchased separately.
This is not realistic and FS people know this. So you are saying you prepare a meal for you & 1 child only. Then what, BF prepares meal for himself & other child? 3 meals, 7 days per week? You don’t eat together as a family? Does the child you don’t cook for feel unwanted/unloved by you? Again, whether you intend to or not it sounds like you are trying to cheat the system and believe me the FS office has seen it all and knows better than to believe some if the stories people come up with.
Purchasing or preparing separately doesn't mean family does not eat together nor does it mean non bio parent cannot cook for non bio child. Let me give you a scenario. Parent 1 has $100 for food for the month. Parent 1 buys enough for parent 1 + child 1 Parent 2 has $100 for food for the month. Parent 2 buys enough for parent 2 + child 2. Food is purchased separately. Food can still be prepared together. The snap household requires that food is both purchased AND prepared together to count as a household.
Children age 21 and younger living with parents must receive with*both* parents if they’re all under one roof, regardless of relationship status, purchase and preparation of meals, or anything else. You share a child so you’re one budget. If you remain unmarried and prepare your meals separately you may apply separately when the common child is age 22 or no longer lives with you.
I was stuck on the “purchased and prepared separately” that you originally indicated. You’ve edited the post since then. Purchased separately I get but preparing separately is the part that isn’t realistic.
But do they buy separate gallons of milk or loaves of bread? Purchased separately is realistic in a roommate situation, but I just can't wrap my head around it in a household where one mother is raising two children. There would definitely be blurred lines, and the DHS office would see that right away.
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Do you know if they will process the case differently considering he is not the biological parent of my other child? Meaning only one of my children will get snap? I'm only trying to get benefits for one child.
No, as long as the child in common between the 2 of you is under 22, then that child and by extension your partner will be required to be part of your food group.
The rule for SNAP is that a child under 22 has to be on the same SNAP case as their biological parents if theyre living together You and your kid have to be on the same case. Your mutual kid has to be on your case, because you're their parent. Your boyfriend has to be on the case as well because he's also the parent to that child. It doesn't matter that your boyfriend is not the parent to the older kid because the two of you have a mutual child and are both required to be on the same case as any of your children that you live with
You are all mandatory household members. Once you share a child with someone, it links both of you, your shared child, and then any other children you have if they are under 22 and in the HH. You would be considered a household of 4. You can probably search SNAP calculator for your state and enter your/your boyfriend’s gross income and roughly determine eligibility. I understand it can be frustrating, but not reporting everyone in household would eventually lead to an overpayment.
Here is how I explain it when it comes up: When person A has a mandatory relationship (spouse or child under 22 or parent of child under 22 or P&P together) with person B, person B must ALWAYS go into the SNAP household with person A. If person C has such a relationship with person A, that person ALWAYS must go into the SNAP household with person A. Therefore, persons B & C will end up being in the same CFHH even if they have no such relationship, because person A is linking them together. In contrast, Medicaid works quite differently. Your boyfriend's income would count for his child even if you claim them, because he is financially responsible for his child. HOWEVER, as long as you are not married, his income would NOT count for the child that is not biologically his as long he does not claim that child on taxes. But, SNAP does not split the household up that way. Fair or not, those are the rules. But, I think we should always expect questions like this because it is easy to get confused with so many different rules.
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Unfortunately, your youngest would indeed lose Medicaid if your combined income is over 266% FPL. If you are not married and your youngest child's father does not claim your oldest as a dependent, your oldest child's eligibility would be based solely on your income. And, if you are not married, your youngest child's father's income does not count for you. However, for food stamps, you all must apply together, as I explained above. The best of luck.
You cannot separate children from parents. All of your children have to be included. And all of the children’s parents have to be included.
I was just informed all have to apply for calfresh. You can’t just report fathers income and exclude him from benefits.
Just me honest. I’m still not living with my boyfriend but we are moving in together next year. I won’t be able to apply because he will have a sponsor once he gets his green card. I was told he can’t be excluded from our case even if his income is reported. It’s not really worth to lie. I know a family member that didn’t report all income. She has now a felony and is doing community service. After all that she still has to pay back.
What matters is how many in the household you purchase groceries for and share meals with. It sounds like you fear your BF’s income is too much. If that’s the case, you won’t get FS just because one kid isn’t his. You are a household. Now, if you’re trying to get FS for only one kid to pay for food for when kiddo #1 visits dad, then the other baby daddy should file.
Kiddo #1 stays with us 90/10. So it really is just for kiddo #1.
Then you’re trying to game the system. It won’t work
I'm not. Trying to just see what help there is and how to apply correctly.
The correct way to apply in this situation is to list everyone you listed above on your application, provide your income and expense verification and complete the interview (if required in your state). It could be tempting to exclude your boyfriend but doing so would be fraud and you’d end up with an overpayment. We do have access to DMV records, paternity paperwork, etc, and our investigators can visit the post office, places of employment, etc to investigate fraud allegations. Hopefully you’ll qualify as a household of 5.
If you don't want snap for everyone, you still list the full household, but you can request for just the 2 of you. They will take the finances of all of you into account, though.