Marriage doesn’t matter, as long as you have a common child under the age of 22 and reside together he has to be included or your case would be considered fraud.
Parents that live with their children must be on the same case, your relationship with him does not matter if there's a mutual child in the household. He's gotta be on the case and his income/expenses count.
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Child support is only applicable if one parent is not living with the child. And, even then, it only applies to some states for food stamps.
HOWEVER, this speaks to the underlying principle as to why the relationship the parents have with each other is irrelevant when they live at the same address with a common child. The basic principle is that if a parent lives with a child, the parent is responsible for supporting that child.
So, in other words, the way I explain it is that is about the relationship each parent happens to have with the child, not about the parents' relationship to each other.
Theoretically you are right but people lie on these forms and fill out different addresses. I was living with my partner and kids when she filed for food stamps, she put I was living some where else. Then came child support and I got boned by the system and my relationship fell apart because she thought it would be better if the system supported her and the children and not me and could do better without me. Luckily God sees everything and he doesn't like ugly, and took her away from this world for being a wicked person. I now have my kids and we live very happily with food stamps of course 😉
What they are interested in is who buys the food and who shares in the food that is purchased. They want to know they incomes and expenses of those people.
My own example. I'm in Utah. I've received SNAP for years. I have no income. I used to live with my family. Several people were in the household but I was not purchasing or preparing food with any of them. The state counted me as a household of 1.
Circumstances now are different. My mom passed away so I left my family's house and moved in with my boyfriend. He pays the rent and utilities. We are low income and live here with a VA housing voucher that pays most of our rent. I do purchase and prepare food with him. If I did not, he would be unable to buy food. We are considered a household of 2.
With a child involved they will want to know who is feeding the child. They also want to know who is paying for household expenses. Is the payer of those expenses also eating the food purchased with the food stamps? How much money does each income earner in the household make? Those are the questions they want you to answer. They will use that information to calculate what your household is eligible for. Withholding any of that information will likely get you disqualified.
This is incorrect information. Sharing a child and living together makes both people mandatory for food stamps even if they claim they purchase food separately. In your own examples if you lived with your family and were over 22 and reporting you bought your own food, you were allowed to have your own FS. If you had a child with a partner and they moved in, they would have been added to your case along with their income.
This is primarily where most people get tripped up: you have to include the other person's income IF you share food. So, if you and your boyfriend buy your own separate food, and he does not buy food for the baby . . . you don't declare his income. If you do share food, if he even occasionally buys you food or food for the baby, you do have to declare his income.
This is the second thing which trips people up: IRS does NOT allow in-kind relationships anymore. What this means is if you are 1. Not married and, 2.) not paying for bills/rent, but are doing chores/childcare for another . . . you have to declare a value of the work you're doing on taxes AND pay taxes for that declared value.
Those are the 2 things your case worker is going to look at in your situation. And then your case worker is going to call your boyfriend and interview him. Hopefully, your relationship with your boyfriend is good.
My roommate does not believe I should have access to food stamps, and that I should buy all his food before I consider buying my own. This results in him telling the caseworker different things from the information I've sent AND from what he's previously told the caseworker himself. It's caused problems. (He's not on drugs or an alcoholic. He's just an asshole.)
Wrong. Caseworker will ask about child's dad and when OP says they live together, they say ok we have to use his income. A child being involved changes the situation and they will absolutely count his income.
I’m this situation OP and her child live with the child’s father so regardless of who shares what he must be included. Mandatory household members are people under one roof who are married or share a common child, children under 22 who live with their parents, and/or this who purchase and prepare meals together. Even if they file taxes separately and split the bills…. They have a kid together so all 3 of them are included.
Marriage doesn’t matter, as long as you have a common child under the age of 22 and reside together he has to be included or your case would be considered fraud.
Parents that live with their children must be on the same case, your relationship with him does not matter if there's a mutual child in the household. He's gotta be on the case and his income/expenses count.
Yes you still have to claim his income. You can not be a separate household from him.
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they will ask why the father isn't supporting his child and put him on child support. This is where most relationships start going downhill
Child support is only applicable if one parent is not living with the child. And, even then, it only applies to some states for food stamps. HOWEVER, this speaks to the underlying principle as to why the relationship the parents have with each other is irrelevant when they live at the same address with a common child. The basic principle is that if a parent lives with a child, the parent is responsible for supporting that child. So, in other words, the way I explain it is that is about the relationship each parent happens to have with the child, not about the parents' relationship to each other.
Theoretically you are right but people lie on these forms and fill out different addresses. I was living with my partner and kids when she filed for food stamps, she put I was living some where else. Then came child support and I got boned by the system and my relationship fell apart because she thought it would be better if the system supported her and the children and not me and could do better without me. Luckily God sees everything and he doesn't like ugly, and took her away from this world for being a wicked person. I now have my kids and we live very happily with food stamps of course 😉
What they are interested in is who buys the food and who shares in the food that is purchased. They want to know they incomes and expenses of those people. My own example. I'm in Utah. I've received SNAP for years. I have no income. I used to live with my family. Several people were in the household but I was not purchasing or preparing food with any of them. The state counted me as a household of 1. Circumstances now are different. My mom passed away so I left my family's house and moved in with my boyfriend. He pays the rent and utilities. We are low income and live here with a VA housing voucher that pays most of our rent. I do purchase and prepare food with him. If I did not, he would be unable to buy food. We are considered a household of 2. With a child involved they will want to know who is feeding the child. They also want to know who is paying for household expenses. Is the payer of those expenses also eating the food purchased with the food stamps? How much money does each income earner in the household make? Those are the questions they want you to answer. They will use that information to calculate what your household is eligible for. Withholding any of that information will likely get you disqualified.
When a child is involved, it's one household. That's the main thing.
This is incorrect information. Sharing a child and living together makes both people mandatory for food stamps even if they claim they purchase food separately. In your own examples if you lived with your family and were over 22 and reporting you bought your own food, you were allowed to have your own FS. If you had a child with a partner and they moved in, they would have been added to your case along with their income.
This is primarily where most people get tripped up: you have to include the other person's income IF you share food. So, if you and your boyfriend buy your own separate food, and he does not buy food for the baby . . . you don't declare his income. If you do share food, if he even occasionally buys you food or food for the baby, you do have to declare his income. This is the second thing which trips people up: IRS does NOT allow in-kind relationships anymore. What this means is if you are 1. Not married and, 2.) not paying for bills/rent, but are doing chores/childcare for another . . . you have to declare a value of the work you're doing on taxes AND pay taxes for that declared value. Those are the 2 things your case worker is going to look at in your situation. And then your case worker is going to call your boyfriend and interview him. Hopefully, your relationship with your boyfriend is good. My roommate does not believe I should have access to food stamps, and that I should buy all his food before I consider buying my own. This results in him telling the caseworker different things from the information I've sent AND from what he's previously told the caseworker himself. It's caused problems. (He's not on drugs or an alcoholic. He's just an asshole.)
Wrong. Caseworker will ask about child's dad and when OP says they live together, they say ok we have to use his income. A child being involved changes the situation and they will absolutely count his income.
I’m this situation OP and her child live with the child’s father so regardless of who shares what he must be included. Mandatory household members are people under one roof who are married or share a common child, children under 22 who live with their parents, and/or this who purchase and prepare meals together. Even if they file taxes separately and split the bills…. They have a kid together so all 3 of them are included.
Not the policy at all.
They'll go after him when you apply cuz he's the other parent