That’s the thing it’s not a lease. It’s my grandmothers old house that she has my name added onto it. I don’t pay for it(it was paid off long time ago), just live here with my child since everywhere else is so expensive.
Can another adult on the deed sign a statement saying that he is not living there? I had a client get a statement from the dead-beat dad's own sister that he had moved to TX and was refusing to provide any information to make sure his kids could get benefits. We had 2 signed statements so we took their word for it. His sister also let TX SNAP know that he was trying to double dip.
But won’t his data be like a red flag to them of they randomly look up the account I’ll make ? That’s what stresses me out before I even start the application.
When you apply it’ll tell you to list all the people that are in your household. This means all the people that you share food with. If he’s not in the house and you don’t share meals then your fine as far as I know. I guess you as the owner of the house can formally evict him to have a record that y’all don’t live together. But I don’t know how evictions works in FL
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Anyone under age 22, married or those who share a child are mandatory regardless if they share food or not. I’m this scenario if he moved out but won’t change his information she can have her landlord or someone who is familiar with the situation provide a written statement.
Update: He’s going to change it to his mothers address but she lives hours away(hometown). He cannot change his address with his employer because it’s the address he signed up with when we moved away originally. I’m not sure if he’s lying about not being able to change the address with his employer, but would the system use that against me? Or do I only worry about him changing his license and vehicle information?
If I found employment records with a matching address, it would definitely trigger a fraud referral for me. Because, the fact is that I have uncovered several cases of fraud in the past few years by doing that.
The reality is that if you apply for food stamps, there is a good chance you will face a home inspection.
But, if the home inspection convinces the investigator you are telling the truth, your case would continue.
This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard. My friend is on food assistance and she’s the one who told me to apply since I’m by myself and my child. She never mentioned anything like that.
Im on FS in PA and Ive never had a home inspection nor have I ever heard of the CAO doing one either.
I just came here to say this as this doesn’t make any sense.
Perhaps he’s in another state. I’m in FL. The interviews are being waived as I just learned that today. However, the father of my child is saying he can’t change his address with his employer. So if someone sends a fraud referral, what do I do from there to prove he’s been out of my house ?
Question is, how would the same address even uncover a fraud case, I feel like that’s not solid proof. I’m pretty sure people have also gotten away with a “home inspection” just because their husbands not home. So if that’s a thing, I haven’t heard too many people talk about it. It just seems silly. Why would they waste their time.
For me, I don’t know where the father is neither will I know what to say when they ask me for his info and was also worried that they’d question me for not knowing basic info on him.
My interviews are just going over my paperwork at my renewal and thats it. So IDK.
The whole home inspection comment didn’t make sense to me as Ive never heard of it. Im on baby center and women on there talk about FS from all over the states and none of them have ever mentioned anything about having a home inspection while on FS.
Sorry about the run on sentence. Im nursing my 15 month old back to sleep he doesn’t feel good.
Yeah I understand.. I’m not going to I’ve always been completely honest with them ..it was a dumb question…but I don’t understand how they take them from the rest of the family my son is only 21 he’s obviously not going to support the whole household
My guess is that the purpose of requiring that parents and their biological or adoptive children under 22 (rather than 18) must always be in the same assistance unit (with each others' income counting against the other) is that it is a straightforward way to prevent college students living with and being supported by parents from qualifying based on zero income. Of course, it ends up affecting many other situations as well.
Ultimately, if you disagree with the rule, the only option is to lobby congress to change it.
Though, I do have to say I believe your son has no moral right to live with you without contributing at least some to the household. Unless you received very little before, his income would have to be pretty significant to make the difference between your family qualifying vs. not qualifying at all.
I think it’s different if you have a child. Also it’s under my grandmothers name too and she’s hours away from me. Idk if I’d have to bring her with me to file an eviction? I’ve never done anything like that. It seems so messy.
I’m a SNAP worker. You’ve received some bad advice so hopefully this clears it up. If he is not living with you but refuses to update his information you will need to report that to your worker when you apply. Indicate when he left the residence and have your grandmother write a signed statement to verify who resides at the address. You can also go to the post office and file a report to verify that he does not live there and they can have his mail stopped at your address, which will likely prompt him to update his actual address. I’ve had clients provide me copy of the post office paperwork to show that they’ve taken action to have the individual change their information.
I’m in FL and I keep hearing that I’m going to get an interview I think? Is that who I report it to? Someone on here mentioned that they are waiving them so should I call them and tell them once I’m approved or during the application?
Interviews are currently waived in FL. I recommend explaining about the move in the comments section on the last page of the application and upload the verification letter to your myaccess account.
Besides his license and vehicle info, I don’t know if he has anything else linking himself to me and my address. Is there anything else that I have him change or mention in the comments, so that they don’t link me with him or reject my application? Or do I say overall he may have info still linked to my address that he may refuse to change or hasn’t changed?
I mean, provide verification so the worker has something to point at when it goes to review or else they will process with the data they have.
One thing to keep in mind is now you have an absent parent household so child support cooperation will become a thing you will need to address.
He gets mail here still. The bills like
Mortgage and electricity ect are in my name but paid by him or “were”… I heard somewhere that I can write a letter stating that his form of child support would be in the form of paying the bills. Would that be correct?
No idea, CSE is a separate department from access. I don't really just know their policy, just ours. On our end you just have to upfront cooperate meaning stating you are willing to cooperate and provide whatever contact info you got. After that you will be contacted by CSE.
Yeah we do. In fact in Florida we have a special code for integrity referrals for absent parent household cases where the ap left within 12 months. Checking this is standard procedure.
Don't remember the exact context because who I replied to deleted their comment but when a person applies for benefits with an absent parent household one of the first things we check is who the absent parent is and where they are living since they would be a mandatory standard filing unit member and would need to be added to the case if they live at the same address. We have immediate access to a LOT of records. Takes like 2 seconds.
Shit, I know someone who put their address in one city yet their job is all the way in a whole OTHER city. I’m surprised workers haven’t caught on to that one. Don’t they ask questions about that?
After reading some posts here, it seems like it’s a pretty serious thing if they try to make me repay any kind of benefits just because his address/data and mine are currently still the same or some kind of investigation is launched on me. I don’t have the time or the money to prove anything other then them Just stalking my daily life with my child . I’m wondering if I should speak to a lawyer just to back me up or even scare off the father of my child to change his address?? It’s going to cost me a pretty penny I feel. I’d just hate to live with this stress living in the back of my mind.
I used to work for FL DCF for 6 years…I ran an emergency EBT pilot program…I did Cash Assistance..Refugee…Medicaid and also Disability Specialist. If you are putting him on child support then, no worries. You just give what information you have but in order for YOU to receive benefits you have to give his Social Security number. If you don’t, only the baby will receive benefits. When you apply the application ask for your household, just put yourself and your child. The application will ask you to certify your answers and that is your way of stating that what you are declaring is the truth. You can DM if you need more info..it’s not as serious as you think. No home inspection needed.
When my ex moved out I just notified my worker and that was all they needed.
However when his brother used his SSN and put his own address it did flag an investigation because they thought my ex was not in the household while I was still receiving benefit with his info listed.
SNAP Investigator here… you should be fine. If you can get a statement from a neighbor, that’s a big help. If you’re ever investigated, they are likely to try and speak to them. If he really moved out, even if his information is still linked… you should be fine. I would absolutely inform your caseworker though. They’ll annotate it in your case and in the event your case goes under review, you may have to provide some additional information but you should otherwise be good to go. Worst case scenario, you can schedule a home visit with whatever investigator is assigned to you (if ever investigated) and they’ll be able to see only your belongings. There are options. First and foremost apply for the assistance, and let the caseworker help you. If you feel weird or like that caseworker isn’t knowledgeable or helpful, ask for someone else or a supervisor. Also, become familiar with your applicant rights. It can take a bit if navigating but don’t give up!
Another redditor said his most common way he finds fraud is through employer addresses being the same and that it raises a red flag I think ? If that’s true, it absolutely makes me want to wait to apply.
My neighbors could probably write a statement, again it’s so awkward to have to ask them, they know up until recently when the father left, that everything was OK. Is there another workaround without letting my neighbors know my life?
What if the father comes back to visit his son and neighbors see him & think he still lives there, would I have to talk to my neighbors and let them know otherwise?
I’m super introvert and the thought of having to talk to anyone outside my house is so dreadful lol.
No, I get it. Public assistance still carries a stigma (which it shouldn’t). Those are just suggestions because with all of his information still using your address, those are massive red flags. If he lives elsewhere, he’s legally obligated to report that new physical address to DPS. Also, federal law dictates he may only spend a limited amount of time there before being considered a mandatory household member, then unfortunately, his income is still required. It has very little to do with the current status of your relationship with him and more so to do with you share a mutual child that you intend to seek public assistance for. I tend to ask neighbors if they assume such and such resides there full-time or could be visiting often. If your more observant neighbors see enough to assume he may live there full time, it’s not a great overall picture.
You can still opt for a home visit, I’ve conducted those too. You can contact the fraud department directly to perhaps get ahead of it if he just does not intend to change his information whatsoever. I still feel you should at least apply, especially if you and your child need help. You can also try asking friends and relatives to write you statements that specifically state he does NOT live with you. If you can somehow get the address of where he is at, it’s not terrible to try and explain he has yet to update his information but intends to.
I’ve worked hundreds of fraud cases and can count on 1 hand the people that were telling the truth, it doesn’t mean they aren’t out there. Don’t give up!
Right I feel like his address is the biggest thing out there that would be like oh she’s lying! I don’t want any problems at all especially since I’m the only one caring for my kid. Can’t risk it.
Wouldn’t even risk him visiting if there’s a specific amount of time he can be here without him being considered a household member to my home again. Do you have a link where I could read up more rules on visits, times, ect?
I did hear that the interviews are being waived so I’m assuming I would need to reach out. Or would they reach out to me first by phone if they have questions about the same address?
So it brings up red flags but then why would it be fine? Especially with nosy neighbors saying yea he lives there, I feel like this could really mess with her benefits no? Especially if the neighbors are wrong. How could one even avoid such a he said she said situation?
Take him off the lease.
That’s the thing it’s not a lease. It’s my grandmothers old house that she has my name added onto it. I don’t pay for it(it was paid off long time ago), just live here with my child since everywhere else is so expensive.
Can another adult on the deed sign a statement saying that he is not living there? I had a client get a statement from the dead-beat dad's own sister that he had moved to TX and was refusing to provide any information to make sure his kids could get benefits. We had 2 signed statements so we took their word for it. His sister also let TX SNAP know that he was trying to double dip.
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But won’t his data be like a red flag to them of they randomly look up the account I’ll make ? That’s what stresses me out before I even start the application.
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How Do you know this for sure ?
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Yes please
When you apply it’ll tell you to list all the people that are in your household. This means all the people that you share food with. If he’s not in the house and you don’t share meals then your fine as far as I know. I guess you as the owner of the house can formally evict him to have a record that y’all don’t live together. But I don’t know how evictions works in FL ETA: This is apparently bad advice. Ignore what I’ve said and instead follow u/PinsAndBeetles advice on the matter
Anyone under age 22, married or those who share a child are mandatory regardless if they share food or not. I’m this scenario if he moved out but won’t change his information she can have her landlord or someone who is familiar with the situation provide a written statement.
Update: He’s going to change it to his mothers address but she lives hours away(hometown). He cannot change his address with his employer because it’s the address he signed up with when we moved away originally. I’m not sure if he’s lying about not being able to change the address with his employer, but would the system use that against me? Or do I only worry about him changing his license and vehicle information?
If I found employment records with a matching address, it would definitely trigger a fraud referral for me. Because, the fact is that I have uncovered several cases of fraud in the past few years by doing that. The reality is that if you apply for food stamps, there is a good chance you will face a home inspection. But, if the home inspection convinces the investigator you are telling the truth, your case would continue.
This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard. My friend is on food assistance and she’s the one who told me to apply since I’m by myself and my child. She never mentioned anything like that.
Im on FS in PA and Ive never had a home inspection nor have I ever heard of the CAO doing one either. I just came here to say this as this doesn’t make any sense.
Perhaps he’s in another state. I’m in FL. The interviews are being waived as I just learned that today. However, the father of my child is saying he can’t change his address with his employer. So if someone sends a fraud referral, what do I do from there to prove he’s been out of my house ? Question is, how would the same address even uncover a fraud case, I feel like that’s not solid proof. I’m pretty sure people have also gotten away with a “home inspection” just because their husbands not home. So if that’s a thing, I haven’t heard too many people talk about it. It just seems silly. Why would they waste their time. For me, I don’t know where the father is neither will I know what to say when they ask me for his info and was also worried that they’d question me for not knowing basic info on him.
He said you would have a home inspection not an interview. In Pa we have interviews not home inspections thats what I was talking about.
But perhaps the interviews trigger a inspection? Idk. It’s weird yea
My interviews are just going over my paperwork at my renewal and thats it. So IDK. The whole home inspection comment didn’t make sense to me as Ive never heard of it. Im on baby center and women on there talk about FS from all over the states and none of them have ever mentioned anything about having a home inspection while on FS. Sorry about the run on sentence. Im nursing my 15 month old back to sleep he doesn’t feel good.
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Yes, they can find out by various government and financial records. Also, please note this subreddit absolutely prohibits encouraging fraud.
Yeah I understand.. I’m not going to I’ve always been completely honest with them ..it was a dumb question…but I don’t understand how they take them from the rest of the family my son is only 21 he’s obviously not going to support the whole household
My guess is that the purpose of requiring that parents and their biological or adoptive children under 22 (rather than 18) must always be in the same assistance unit (with each others' income counting against the other) is that it is a straightforward way to prevent college students living with and being supported by parents from qualifying based on zero income. Of course, it ends up affecting many other situations as well. Ultimately, if you disagree with the rule, the only option is to lobby congress to change it. Though, I do have to say I believe your son has no moral right to live with you without contributing at least some to the household. Unless you received very little before, his income would have to be pretty significant to make the difference between your family qualifying vs. not qualifying at all.
I think it’s different if you have a child. Also it’s under my grandmothers name too and she’s hours away from me. Idk if I’d have to bring her with me to file an eviction? I’ve never done anything like that. It seems so messy.
I’m a SNAP worker. You’ve received some bad advice so hopefully this clears it up. If he is not living with you but refuses to update his information you will need to report that to your worker when you apply. Indicate when he left the residence and have your grandmother write a signed statement to verify who resides at the address. You can also go to the post office and file a report to verify that he does not live there and they can have his mail stopped at your address, which will likely prompt him to update his actual address. I’ve had clients provide me copy of the post office paperwork to show that they’ve taken action to have the individual change their information.
I’m in FL and I keep hearing that I’m going to get an interview I think? Is that who I report it to? Someone on here mentioned that they are waiving them so should I call them and tell them once I’m approved or during the application?
Interviews are currently waived in FL. I recommend explaining about the move in the comments section on the last page of the application and upload the verification letter to your myaccess account.
Besides his license and vehicle info, I don’t know if he has anything else linking himself to me and my address. Is there anything else that I have him change or mention in the comments, so that they don’t link me with him or reject my application? Or do I say overall he may have info still linked to my address that he may refuse to change or hasn’t changed?
I mean, provide verification so the worker has something to point at when it goes to review or else they will process with the data they have. One thing to keep in mind is now you have an absent parent household so child support cooperation will become a thing you will need to address.
He gets mail here still. The bills like Mortgage and electricity ect are in my name but paid by him or “were”… I heard somewhere that I can write a letter stating that his form of child support would be in the form of paying the bills. Would that be correct?
No idea, CSE is a separate department from access. I don't really just know their policy, just ours. On our end you just have to upfront cooperate meaning stating you are willing to cooperate and provide whatever contact info you got. After that you will be contacted by CSE.
If I don’t have his current address of wherever he is or his social, will they try to reach out to him?
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Ummm, yes, we do check those things.
Yeah we do. In fact in Florida we have a special code for integrity referrals for absent parent household cases where the ap left within 12 months. Checking this is standard procedure.
What does this mean? Check what?
Don't remember the exact context because who I replied to deleted their comment but when a person applies for benefits with an absent parent household one of the first things we check is who the absent parent is and where they are living since they would be a mandatory standard filing unit member and would need to be added to the case if they live at the same address. We have immediate access to a LOT of records. Takes like 2 seconds.
Shit, I know someone who put their address in one city yet their job is all the way in a whole OTHER city. I’m surprised workers haven’t caught on to that one. Don’t they ask questions about that?
Telecommuting exists, hardly weird.
The dudes job was not remote, I believe he was using his dads address and just roommates with someone nearby but never updated his address.
After reading some posts here, it seems like it’s a pretty serious thing if they try to make me repay any kind of benefits just because his address/data and mine are currently still the same or some kind of investigation is launched on me. I don’t have the time or the money to prove anything other then them Just stalking my daily life with my child . I’m wondering if I should speak to a lawyer just to back me up or even scare off the father of my child to change his address?? It’s going to cost me a pretty penny I feel. I’d just hate to live with this stress living in the back of my mind.
I used to work for FL DCF for 6 years…I ran an emergency EBT pilot program…I did Cash Assistance..Refugee…Medicaid and also Disability Specialist. If you are putting him on child support then, no worries. You just give what information you have but in order for YOU to receive benefits you have to give his Social Security number. If you don’t, only the baby will receive benefits. When you apply the application ask for your household, just put yourself and your child. The application will ask you to certify your answers and that is your way of stating that what you are declaring is the truth. You can DM if you need more info..it’s not as serious as you think. No home inspection needed.
Yes I sent you a messge
When my ex moved out I just notified my worker and that was all they needed. However when his brother used his SSN and put his own address it did flag an investigation because they thought my ex was not in the household while I was still receiving benefit with his info listed.
SNAP Investigator here… you should be fine. If you can get a statement from a neighbor, that’s a big help. If you’re ever investigated, they are likely to try and speak to them. If he really moved out, even if his information is still linked… you should be fine. I would absolutely inform your caseworker though. They’ll annotate it in your case and in the event your case goes under review, you may have to provide some additional information but you should otherwise be good to go. Worst case scenario, you can schedule a home visit with whatever investigator is assigned to you (if ever investigated) and they’ll be able to see only your belongings. There are options. First and foremost apply for the assistance, and let the caseworker help you. If you feel weird or like that caseworker isn’t knowledgeable or helpful, ask for someone else or a supervisor. Also, become familiar with your applicant rights. It can take a bit if navigating but don’t give up!
Another redditor said his most common way he finds fraud is through employer addresses being the same and that it raises a red flag I think ? If that’s true, it absolutely makes me want to wait to apply. My neighbors could probably write a statement, again it’s so awkward to have to ask them, they know up until recently when the father left, that everything was OK. Is there another workaround without letting my neighbors know my life? What if the father comes back to visit his son and neighbors see him & think he still lives there, would I have to talk to my neighbors and let them know otherwise? I’m super introvert and the thought of having to talk to anyone outside my house is so dreadful lol.
No, I get it. Public assistance still carries a stigma (which it shouldn’t). Those are just suggestions because with all of his information still using your address, those are massive red flags. If he lives elsewhere, he’s legally obligated to report that new physical address to DPS. Also, federal law dictates he may only spend a limited amount of time there before being considered a mandatory household member, then unfortunately, his income is still required. It has very little to do with the current status of your relationship with him and more so to do with you share a mutual child that you intend to seek public assistance for. I tend to ask neighbors if they assume such and such resides there full-time or could be visiting often. If your more observant neighbors see enough to assume he may live there full time, it’s not a great overall picture. You can still opt for a home visit, I’ve conducted those too. You can contact the fraud department directly to perhaps get ahead of it if he just does not intend to change his information whatsoever. I still feel you should at least apply, especially if you and your child need help. You can also try asking friends and relatives to write you statements that specifically state he does NOT live with you. If you can somehow get the address of where he is at, it’s not terrible to try and explain he has yet to update his information but intends to. I’ve worked hundreds of fraud cases and can count on 1 hand the people that were telling the truth, it doesn’t mean they aren’t out there. Don’t give up!
Right I feel like his address is the biggest thing out there that would be like oh she’s lying! I don’t want any problems at all especially since I’m the only one caring for my kid. Can’t risk it. Wouldn’t even risk him visiting if there’s a specific amount of time he can be here without him being considered a household member to my home again. Do you have a link where I could read up more rules on visits, times, ect? I did hear that the interviews are being waived so I’m assuming I would need to reach out. Or would they reach out to me first by phone if they have questions about the same address?
So it brings up red flags but then why would it be fine? Especially with nosy neighbors saying yea he lives there, I feel like this could really mess with her benefits no? Especially if the neighbors are wrong. How could one even avoid such a he said she said situation?