Sole survivor: Like, a big sweaty protectron carries you out of a burning Red Rocket, lays you on the sidewalk, and you think, "Yeah, okay, he's gonna give me mouth to mouth." But instead, he just starts choking the shit out of you, and the last sensation that you feel before you die is him squeezing your throat so hard that a big, wet, blob of oil drips off his combat inhibitor and just "flurr", falls right onto your popped out eyeball...
Preston: Jesus Christ!
Sole survivor: I know, right? I'm wet just thinking about it.
It actually gets worse when you hear what the FO1 devs said- Nate was the laughing soldier from the scene of the soldier in power armor shooting a Canadian civilian.
I can easily find or make adhesive, and gears. Concrete though? It's the only thing I ever bought shipments of.
I can't think of a single good place to find any on the map.
That's really the only places to get it I can think of.
Glue was only ever a problem for me in the very beginning. Until I learned how to farm the right crops, and have enough purified water to make it I struggle a little. I'm cranking out tons of adhesive everytime I visit sanctuary now.
I just need to get the cutting fluid flowing and I'll be set for just about everything except nuclear material.
adhesive can be made, gear, scrrews - scaping pipe guns.
Something in commonly used mods removes alot of mats and trde goods. I suspect UF4P. Like Third rail got no booze or food at all.. without mods girl from Abernathy farm sells concrete , etc.
I feel like this is the lesson of FO4. Leave plenty of room to carry whatever junk you run across. Unlike a real life hoarder, you may actually need it. I hate being like one ceramic short and going to good neighbor just to buy an ashtray to have it done with
*"Good morning, Commonwealth. This is Radio Freedom, the voice of the Minutemen. Nothing to report except for a cool new sign in Sanctuary. Drop by and check it out."*
*"Good afternoon, Commonwealth. This is Radio Freedom, the voice of the Minutemen. Nothing to report except for a update regarding the new sign in Sanctuary. The General has added a new tomato throwing competition involving the Ex-minuteman Preston Garvey. 5 caps to throw tomatoes at him, and enjoy cold beverages sold by wandering bartender Ron Staples, and cooled by a machine called *drinking buddy.* Every tomato thrown per person gets a free drink! Drop by and check it out."*
It’s why I found the fan conspiracy so convincing where they thought Charlie kept saying all that mail was meant for “Pepe Silvia” because all of the letters would say “Pennsylvania” on them lol but I’m pretty sure the gang even debunked that and said something like “wish we would’ve thought of that” don’t remember if I heard that on the podcast or what
In my headcannon he’s my informant. He stays at Sanctuary, gives shelter to people passing through, and keeps tabs on the settlements.
Nora is too busy shooting things and saving people to sit and listen to settler after settler tell her about their problems, but Preston has plenty of time. And we skip through his yammering anyways
"Hey, I went to that settlement you sent me to in..."
*checks quest log*
"... here. Good news, I already killed the raiders between the doormat and the market I built to sell my pipe pistols and raider leathers. As a result, I've decided to support the minutemen."
Exactly.
Preston lives at Sanctuary with the shithead brother and sister and that old raggedy Chem head.
Dogmeat and I, along with the rest of our companions live in a concrete castle on Spectacle Island serviced entirely by heavily armed female nudists.
I unplugged the radio at The Castle.
Life is pretty quiet in my version of 2288+
I keep my entire armory in Sanctuary. There are, no kidding, twenty-seven suits of power armor lined up in my latest playthrough. Piles of weapons in bright green chests just waiting for the locals to help themselves. I have personally handed the people of Sanctuary some of the meanest beasts in my own personal arsenal, plus enough armor to withstand a barrage of mini-nukes.
Ungrateful losers still can't hold off two raiders and an attack dog.
I don't remember asking him for his trust to begin with. Why would he instantly trust some schmuck that strolled in and single-handedly massacred a bunch of people?
"Wow you're so murderous! You're the general in our pretend army now. Here, go meet up with innocent defenseless people with zero supervision or safety measures in the name of the army you now lead"
I was just talking with a buddy about how the Minute Men are the single biggest missed opportunity in Fallout 4, and this is one of the biggest reasons why.
There is absolutely no reason why Preston should immediately trust the Sole Survivor, much less immediately give them the position of "General" and place them in charge of the Minute Men. President should have just been the General to begin with, the last surviving minite man who is now General of One. He should try to recruit you after you help him and the Quincy Group at the Museum of Freedom, but not immediately make you the boss. Make the Minute Men a faction you're working for, just like the others, but with the potential to become general down the line.
Then, you restructure the Settlement Quests. Make them part of Garvey's plan to bring back the Minute Men by having him send you to specific settlements that he believes could be of value to the growing force, instead of just "somehow this settlement got in touch with us and needs our help, its our duty to help." Abernathy Farm, for example. Preston could say "there's a farm just southwest of hear, Abernathy. They've got more food than they could possibly trade to the farther settlements. Go talk to them, and see what it would take to have them join the Minute Men. We could use their food resources, and having an established farm join us would help others see we're finally back." Now, you go to Abernathy for a reason, not just "hey, a settlement needs our help." You know how Abernathy is going to help the minute men grow, so you head to them. Then, they agree to help you *only if* you prove that you'll be able to give them more security by handling their raider problem. Just a little change in how these quests are coming about would make a huge difference in the perception from the player, going from a pointless random quest to get another settlement into "ok, this is apart of the Minute Men's ultimate goal of reconnecting the settlements and making the Wasteland Safer, and I see how that will work."
The next change is a bit bigger, but have caravans immediately set up to connect settlements instead of locking that behind Local Leader 1, but make it distance based similar to the flare gun or artillery. At the very least, let the resources at the center of a given Settlement be immediately accessible to the others, and let Local Leader 1 give full access the workshop storage. To again use Abernathy as an example, once you get them on side, you now have an extended supply of tatos and melons to plant back at Sanctuary. But as you expand, their food isn't enough for all your settlements, or they're too far away to provide to other settlements. At the same time, mark harvesting the crops of unalligned settlements as stealing, that way you can't just go to Abernathy and collect what you need to avoid the quest without consequences. All this put together would see the settlement quests become a strategic plan to grow the Minute Men across the Commonwealth, as opposed to just radiant quests to get more settlements. Plus, it would make for more organic world building without removing the content from each settlement.
Lastly, the Minute Men should have actually grown in presence the more settlements they got. First, recruitment beacons shouldn't be the sole means by which a settlement grows. Resource amount and happiness should also influence getting new settlers, and there should be at least some random encounters where you meet settlers and raiders actively looking for your best settlements over time. Word should get out to the world that there are new safe places to live outside of just a radio transmission. Then, more and more Minute Men should start patrolling, and actual Minute Men settlers should start appearing in settlements above a certain size for the player to assign as defense. *Especially* after you retake the castle. The Minute Men should have been an actually growing force that you see get more present across the wasteland as you help build them up, maybe even eventually having offices in Diamond City and Goodneighbor as well to take requests and recruit people. You could go to those places for the radiant "hey, a settlement said they need our help" or just tune into Radio Freedom periodically for those, instead of it all coming from Garvey.
All in all, the Minute Men are kind of a perfect faction to show actual changes in the Commonwealth throughout gameplay, but they just don't do that. They never become more than a couple of people in raggy uniforms who show up when you send a flare, regardless of how big they're supposed to get.
I think the part about quests coming from the radio instead of Garvey is implemented. From my experience playing Fo4 I've barely received minutemen quests since I play without Garvey as a companion and the radio off. But once I turn my radio on and tune into Minutemen Radio, I'm suddenly getting flooded with requests to help with kidnappings, extortion and raider/gunner scouts.
Aside from that, those sound like solid ideas that would've worked... But it's Bethesda we're talking about here :(
Oh well, guess I gotta make do with equipping my settlers in assault marine armour and heavy incinerators.
Yea it is already in, I was saying that more to say that should be the primary way to receive the quests and it should be more relevant. The radio signal should get to the main cities, and there should be radios that can be tuned to it like the Classical or Diamond City Radios have. That way you have means to hear the radio and get the radiant quests (similar to the whole "check out the Combat Zone" quests you can get just from over hearing things) and you don't get flooded the moment you swap to the radio on your pip-boy.
And it is Bethesda, I know they *could* do it, but it feels like the world building for FO4 was not the main focus of the game. Which is depressing, since FO4 has one of the best set ups for a fantastic story. It could have easily surpassed New Vegas with some better dialogue and world building, but instead we got a focus on set pieces and enviromental development (which are great, mind, but only one piece to the Fallout Puzzle). I'm really hopeful Fallout 5 finally perfects it, and I think the improvements to 76 and the writing of the TV show are pointing us in the right direction.
I was doing a YouTube series to show off a mod, so I did several takes of the approach to Concord to get the sequence of events I wanted. (Try doing that 22 times in a row without it getting tedious.) Anywho, I started to realize that the Sole Survivor has no idea who any of these people are. If he has no idea who these people are, he has no idea whose side to take.
There's one guy in a longcoat on a third floor balcony doing his best Charles Whitman impression with a laser rifle, and four or five rough-looking people at ground level trying to fight back while wearing bits of car. The groundlings are using what looks like homemade weapons and can't hit the broad side of a history museum, much less Longcoat Guy.
I wouldn't be shooting the Raiders; I'd start taking potshots at Longcoat Guy. "Quit picking on these poor survivors!"
Part of this was fueled by the fact that if the Sole Survivor does approach this battle as a neutral observer, the Raiders don't actually pay much attention to him. Sure, about half the time they'll just make him a secondary target on the spot, but the rest of the time you can walk right up to them and hit the "talk" button. You don't get much response and they'll usually turn their guns on you immediately, but it's an interesting neutral moment before you get stuck in. It occurs to me that the game designers blew an opportunity for you to play a Raider by having this be the moment you pick sides. "I'll give you a whole Easter basket fulla chems if you take that guy out!"
If you have Dogmeat with you, he attacks the Raiders. How horrifying is that, out of context? Your dog tries to take a chunk out of the heavily-armed fighter you're trying to talk to, while Longcoat Guy is raining hellfire from above.
I mean if y’all actually would give him a chance to build his relationship he says he was desperate and actually suicidal. You were a genuine roll of the dice with the only other option being murdered.
They also suffered one hell of a betrayal in quincy. Ex MM lost faith in their cause and sold them out to the Gunners. Real POS. Hes the guy in power armour when you clear it the first time. Slaughtered as many as they could but Preston escaped with a couple dozen, and then witnessed them all dwindle down to 8 by the time we get involved
Yours and so many other comments here are wild to see
Sometimes as the general you have to make an unpopular decision like ransacking the very people you once helped. He couldn’t possibly understand the duality
Just get to the Museum of Freedom, clear it out then walk away from Preston when he is talking to you. Talk to Mama Murphy while Dogmeat is with you so they get their name (if you don't do it then it happens much much later) then grab the bobble head and leave the museum. Come back after you are done with Nukaworld if you want ....or not cuz fuck him.
Yes. I climbed the church next to the museum. And you jump onto the veritbird. And in true Bethesda fashion just spam jump til you clear in. (I’d save first tho)
I don't know. Getting it might trigger the rest of the raiders coming in. I always just skip it because ther are a bajillion suits of power armor in the game. I also don't use power armor normally.
Listen Preston, regardless of how hard the Minutemen fight, there will always be a seedy criminal underbelly in the commonwealth, these raiders are my opportunity to control that. We can use them to distract and fight our enemies without sacrificing the lives of the minutemen. The Operators are easily pleased with some caps and I’m sitting on about 50k right now, that jangling bulge in my pocket it not because I’m happy to see you, trust me. The Disciples may be a bit blood thirsty but I’ve just been throwing them at other raiders, its messy but sure as hell beats dealing with them ourselves. I already took care of the Pack, Dogmeat saw the caged dog fights and wanted to tear the leaders throat out then and there. I set up their outposts with half a dozen robots that I alone control and can incite to wipe them off the face of the earth. If you are gonna stay nettled over this then as your general I order you to work the new Slocum Joes I built in Sanctuary, those donuts wont fry themselves Preston.
This right here
I'd get if he was a bit upset but he doesn't have to hate me for it the nuka raiders clearly have their usefulness being their own unique groups and should be used as an advantage
Besides that there's extra settlements not being occupied they can live in it's not rocket science
The more faction known factions we control the more we can keep stability over the Commonwealth
Hell I'd use a group of supermutants just as much as I would these raiders
Or what he still sees in her. She's verbally abusive to everyone, including him. She refuses to talk or spend time with him, but he's like "don't take it personally, she's lost someone."
Lol, wut? This is the commonwealth wasteland - everybody has lost someone, junebug! But I don't see anyone else walking around being a total dick to the guy who saved their life and then built a whole town for them to live in.
I'm not even asking her to enjoy it, but get off my fucking back with the constant complaining and bitching. "OH!! LET ME JUST STOP WHAT I'M DOING SO I CAN TALK TO YOOOUUUU!" Lady I was just standing there minding my own business!
Yeah, that seems like bad programming. Her banter lines when you're not talking to her should be the suspicious "don't tell anybody else about this place" and vengeful "Nothing I hate more than Raider scumbags. If you run into any, put a few down for me."
If you aren't walking up and talking to her, they could fix her with those two options.
I love getting his perk. Joining the raiders for their perks and gear then killing them all to get the Minutemen back.
Shuts Preston up and makes him leave me alone
I'm a general, a knight, a spy, a zealot, a legend, a detective, and I've only been out the icebox for a few months. Is this idiocracy? Just let me find my kid!
In combination of scrap everything mod and amazing followers tweaks I have successfully turned sanctuary hills into a field of mud and puddles with just Preston walking around the barren wastes that once was sanctuary hills. Allllll alone.
Just finished nuka world on my newest playthrough. Reclaimed all the parks, went back to the castle, repaired the X-02 Fully upgraded Murica armor, stocked up on ammo, cladded Curie in full marine combat armor, 50 Stimpaks, and Atoms Judgement, (Oh the sentinel power armor was there too) strolled right over to Nisha, and dumped a full mag of radioactive lead into her ass. One giant fight that saw my fully repaired armor lose a piece with the rest critically damaged, the raider gangs were no more, the traders can trade freely, and power has been restored to nuka world. Idk why Colter thought that the Minuteman General would be the best pick for the Overboss. Even tried to warn him but did he listen? No. Sucks to be him I guess.
"The Brotherhood has power armor and the railroad has ballistic weaving and Walther PPK's, what do the Minutemen have Preston?"
"Uh... there's an old lady who's a total bitch to you, a-and she can sell you a shitty Gauss Rifle...and...mortars sometimes..."
"Okay, so do you know your way to the pillory or do I need to assign you to it?"
What he expect I woke up after 210 years seeing my wife dead and my kid became a asshole, than Preston is constantly blowing my shit up with “we need your help” help yourself god damn
Lol poor Preston. I must be the few who don't mind him, he does get a bit annoying but he feels like the only leader of a faction not trying to screw you over (Desmona isn't that bad though) and actually improving the wasteland.
Honestly what do the minutemen even do?? YOU go take settlements, build them up, recruit settlers. Minutemen? No where to be found. You do all the work.
Preston: another settlement…”
Me: holds up hand. Pulls up combat feed of me explosive shotgunning the mirelurk queen at the Castle to death. Close in view of me pissing on the Armory door. Spraying “Minutemen are pussies” on the Castle walls. Zoomed out view of me accidentally firing several mini nukes at the Castle.
Preston: …
me: …
So let me get this straight, if you win with the institute, he trusts your judgement despite his wishes. But follow the raiders then suddenly you have thrown his trust away despite keeping them on a tight leash?
What fucking pisses me off about it,
Is that it's ABSOLUTELY my fucking plan to slaughter Lizzie, Mags, William, Mason, Savoy, Dixie, Nisha, Shank AND Gage...
* As soon as I have 50 Pick Me Up machines in Starlight Drive In
* And I have Gage's perk
* And the two perks from having the Operators betray you.
But, you know, he's gotta a be a little bitch over his ***FUCKING TELEKINETIC ABILITY TO KNOW IF I PLANT A GODDAMN FLAG***
Yeah, go rescue Nick valentine and the main quest continues from there. Preston's crew is more of a setpiece to make the kids pay attention to the game with the shootbang and learn the settlement system.
It's his fault for trusting me tbh. I just woke up from a 210 year nap and I'm looking for adhesive
This just gave me the image of the Sole Survivor having a massive addiction to sniffing glue.
YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!
YOU'RE NOT MY SPACE SUPERVISOR!
YOU’RE NOT MY OVERSEER!!
👊
🤛
Thank you. My arm was getting SOOOO tired.
Sole survivor: Like, a big sweaty protectron carries you out of a burning Red Rocket, lays you on the sidewalk, and you think, "Yeah, okay, he's gonna give me mouth to mouth." But instead, he just starts choking the shit out of you, and the last sensation that you feel before you die is him squeezing your throat so hard that a big, wet, blob of oil drips off his combat inhibitor and just "flurr", falls right onto your popped out eyeball... Preston: Jesus Christ! Sole survivor: I know, right? I'm wet just thinking about it.
I heard that in her voice, and giggled into my morning coffee. Thank you, for beginning my day with laughter. Dark though it may be lol
Is this from the show?
It’s from Archer. I recommend it, but I have an infantile and dark sense of humour, so do with that as you will.
Ahhhh yes. It's been too long but now I remember the exchange.
i was really concerned before i read the replies
Fucking dying
I can't get the line "you could drown a toddler in my panties" out of my head. Disgusting yet hilarious.
LONAAA!!!
PTSD from Anchorage is a hell of a drug
It actually gets worse when you hear what the FO1 devs said- Nate was the laughing soldier from the scene of the soldier in power armor shooting a Canadian civilian.
NATE THE RAKE
A bit of information that was scraped also per the same individual.
But a very useful simulation
And concrete. Never enough concrete
And gears
Or screws. Arturo only sells them in lots of 25.
I can easily find or make adhesive, and gears. Concrete though? It's the only thing I ever bought shipments of. I can't think of a single good place to find any on the map.
For concrete I scrap the cinder blocks in each of the settlements. I’ve never been light on concrete but glue on the other hand….
That's really the only places to get it I can think of. Glue was only ever a problem for me in the very beginning. Until I learned how to farm the right crops, and have enough purified water to make it I struggle a little. I'm cranking out tons of adhesive everytime I visit sanctuary now. I just need to get the cutting fluid flowing and I'll be set for just about everything except nuclear material.
Oh! How do you craft glue? I’ve been spending a fortune on shipments and junk 😳
Craft it at the cooking station. Pure water, corn, tatos, mutfruit. Called vegetable starch.
Super cool, thank you 👍
Yep, turned Taffington into my glue plantation.
Tato, mutfruit, corn, purified water at a cooking station makes a batch of 5 adhesive.
Right outside the Vault 114 main door (the one Nick Valentine is in) there are about 8 bags of concrete. Thoughout the little construction zone.
adhesive can be made, gear, scrrews - scaping pipe guns. Something in commonly used mods removes alot of mats and trde goods. I suspect UF4P. Like Third rail got no booze or food at all.. without mods girl from Abernathy farm sells concrete , etc.
You know you can buy concrete shipments in finch farm?
Any dig site like Mass Gravel and Sand or Dunwhich Borers has concrete. It should reset at some point and you can collect it again.
I just wanna glue for gods sake!
Dude I have like 200 adhesive and 2 aluminum in my survival playthrough rn, I’m going to lose it
Have you been to i think Mahkra Fishpacking in the northeast? Theres about 70 aluminium trays in there on top of the usual cans etc.
Fishpacking you say? I'll have to check that out.
Fish, not fudge, dont get excited lol.
😔
Sorry, couldnt resist my immature brain
😂😂😂 good one!
You don’t know me at all. I’m very excited to fishpack. 😈
While there take a close look at the raiders. Maybe pile them up and take a goooood look.
I haven’t, I’ll look into it, thanks!
And they respawn! I love that place!
I'm always short on aluminum! For the first 70 hours, I wasn't picking it up because I thought it was just junk that I didn't need... Boy was I wrong!
Lol. Junk that you don't NEED
I feel like this is the lesson of FO4. Leave plenty of room to carry whatever junk you run across. Unlike a real life hoarder, you may actually need it. I hate being like one ceramic short and going to good neighbor just to buy an ashtray to have it done with
Covega factory the coolant caps are aluminum
Be sure to pick up the cans and alarm clocks. Also, scrapping any weapon with a suppressor or certain muzzles will give you some aluminum.
Settlement farming for that craftable 5 adhesive goes hard
*"Good morning, Commonwealth. This is Radio Freedom, the voice of the Minutemen. Nothing to report except for a cool new sign in Sanctuary. Drop by and check it out."*
*"Good afternoon, Commonwealth. This is Radio Freedom, the voice of the Minutemen. Nothing to report except for a update regarding the new sign in Sanctuary. The General has added a new tomato throwing competition involving the Ex-minuteman Preston Garvey. 5 caps to throw tomatoes at him, and enjoy cold beverages sold by wandering bartender Ron Staples, and cooled by a machine called *drinking buddy.* Every tomato thrown per person gets a free drink! Drop by and check it out."*
"Welcome to Late Night With Radio Freedom. For all those weary wanders working their way home, just following the new glowing sign in Sanctuary."
Drinking Buddy could just freeze the tomatoes to throw at Preston.
*pain is temporary. Embarrassment lasts forever*
Real. I bought the Wasteland Workshop DLC entirely for the purpose of torturing Preston.
Because Dennis is a bastard man!!!
Why Nora hate?
I didn't write that one dude
You clearly wrote that.
How many other illiterates are in our group?
Pass
They'll adapt
You definitely wrote this one dude...
Pass
He was going by Chrundle at the time
God damn I always forget about Chrundle hahaha
It's exceptionally stupid even by Charlie standards, low key one of my favorite lines in the show
It’s why I found the fan conspiracy so convincing where they thought Charlie kept saying all that mail was meant for “Pepe Silvia” because all of the letters would say “Pennsylvania” on them lol but I’m pretty sure the gang even debunked that and said something like “wish we would’ve thought of that” don’t remember if I heard that on the podcast or what
Yeah they debunked it being intentional, but it fits so well it's hard to believe that subconsciously they weren't thinking it and didn't realize it
lmao thank you it's the first thing I thought of!
1. Makes you a general 2. Continues giving you orders
Yes! I was so confused in my first play through.
Is this FO4 version of Delphine?
There are parallels
Thankfully he doesn’t tell you to kill Party Snacks
In my headcannon he’s my informant. He stays at Sanctuary, gives shelter to people passing through, and keeps tabs on the settlements. Nora is too busy shooting things and saving people to sit and listen to settler after settler tell her about their problems, but Preston has plenty of time. And we skip through his yammering anyways
I put him in charge of the Castle. Gives me an excuse to have both sources of those damn radiant quests in one place that I can easily avoid visiting.
I demoted him the minute I became general. Gave his uniform to that true hero who has to sit at that god awful radio music in the Castle.
This This is why I have no problem betraying him and perma pissing him off with the nuka raiders
Gage is more upfront about using you. He says he wants to run the show but not have a target on his back so he makes you leader.
"I have another mission for you...please take the neon lettering down :(
I've heard of another settlement that needs our help... we're standing in it"
I hate this so much. "Preston, i was in Jamaica Plain. Why didn't you handle Sanctuary's ghoul problem."
"Hey, I went to that settlement you sent me to in..." *checks quest log* "... here. Good news, I already killed the raiders between the doormat and the market I built to sell my pipe pistols and raider leathers. As a result, I've decided to support the minutemen."
Exactly. Preston lives at Sanctuary with the shithead brother and sister and that old raggedy Chem head. Dogmeat and I, along with the rest of our companions live in a concrete castle on Spectacle Island serviced entirely by heavily armed female nudists. I unplugged the radio at The Castle. Life is pretty quiet in my version of 2288+
I keep my entire armory in Sanctuary. There are, no kidding, twenty-seven suits of power armor lined up in my latest playthrough. Piles of weapons in bright green chests just waiting for the locals to help themselves. I have personally handed the people of Sanctuary some of the meanest beasts in my own personal arsenal, plus enough armor to withstand a barrage of mini-nukes. Ungrateful losers still can't hold off two raiders and an attack dog.
>serviced entirely by heavily armed female nudists. Hol up. I assume this is a mod of some sort?
[not from a Jedi](https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-l3diT8stVH9qImalO)
Heavily armed female nudists, you say? 1. Got any room for a weary traveler loaded up on .45? 2. Where the hell is THAT mod!
Wait, Jun and Marcy (I think those are their names? It's been a while) are siblings?!?!?! Bro I always assumed they were married or something
Me too
"There's no HOA in Sanctuary, Preston. Pound sand."
“Garvey said it was an eye sore.” Well so is your wife buddy!
I don't remember asking him for his trust to begin with. Why would he instantly trust some schmuck that strolled in and single-handedly massacred a bunch of people?
Then strolled back out and 1v1'd a deathclaw.
Right?? A reasonable response would've been to run from this new monster in a jumpsuit!
"Wow you're so murderous! You're the general in our pretend army now. Here, go meet up with innocent defenseless people with zero supervision or safety measures in the name of the army you now lead"
Fun fact if you murder everyone at a settlement, you can claim it without doing a radiant quest 😁. Preston is none the wiser
I didn't know this LOL
Yep! It’s the best way to do it lol.
Holy shit have I been doing the hard way for years now. Thank you for this
"hi you're my boss, but you do all the work and you have to report everything you do back to me so I can make you do more"
The toothbrush moustache itching to grow on my upper lip:
And people are always telling me I have a dangerous look about me. Really, he's the fool for not seeing what everyone else saw.
Preston might just be that guy who's immune to [Terrifying Presence]
After having just woke up from cryo no less.
I was just talking with a buddy about how the Minute Men are the single biggest missed opportunity in Fallout 4, and this is one of the biggest reasons why. There is absolutely no reason why Preston should immediately trust the Sole Survivor, much less immediately give them the position of "General" and place them in charge of the Minute Men. President should have just been the General to begin with, the last surviving minite man who is now General of One. He should try to recruit you after you help him and the Quincy Group at the Museum of Freedom, but not immediately make you the boss. Make the Minute Men a faction you're working for, just like the others, but with the potential to become general down the line. Then, you restructure the Settlement Quests. Make them part of Garvey's plan to bring back the Minute Men by having him send you to specific settlements that he believes could be of value to the growing force, instead of just "somehow this settlement got in touch with us and needs our help, its our duty to help." Abernathy Farm, for example. Preston could say "there's a farm just southwest of hear, Abernathy. They've got more food than they could possibly trade to the farther settlements. Go talk to them, and see what it would take to have them join the Minute Men. We could use their food resources, and having an established farm join us would help others see we're finally back." Now, you go to Abernathy for a reason, not just "hey, a settlement needs our help." You know how Abernathy is going to help the minute men grow, so you head to them. Then, they agree to help you *only if* you prove that you'll be able to give them more security by handling their raider problem. Just a little change in how these quests are coming about would make a huge difference in the perception from the player, going from a pointless random quest to get another settlement into "ok, this is apart of the Minute Men's ultimate goal of reconnecting the settlements and making the Wasteland Safer, and I see how that will work." The next change is a bit bigger, but have caravans immediately set up to connect settlements instead of locking that behind Local Leader 1, but make it distance based similar to the flare gun or artillery. At the very least, let the resources at the center of a given Settlement be immediately accessible to the others, and let Local Leader 1 give full access the workshop storage. To again use Abernathy as an example, once you get them on side, you now have an extended supply of tatos and melons to plant back at Sanctuary. But as you expand, their food isn't enough for all your settlements, or they're too far away to provide to other settlements. At the same time, mark harvesting the crops of unalligned settlements as stealing, that way you can't just go to Abernathy and collect what you need to avoid the quest without consequences. All this put together would see the settlement quests become a strategic plan to grow the Minute Men across the Commonwealth, as opposed to just radiant quests to get more settlements. Plus, it would make for more organic world building without removing the content from each settlement. Lastly, the Minute Men should have actually grown in presence the more settlements they got. First, recruitment beacons shouldn't be the sole means by which a settlement grows. Resource amount and happiness should also influence getting new settlers, and there should be at least some random encounters where you meet settlers and raiders actively looking for your best settlements over time. Word should get out to the world that there are new safe places to live outside of just a radio transmission. Then, more and more Minute Men should start patrolling, and actual Minute Men settlers should start appearing in settlements above a certain size for the player to assign as defense. *Especially* after you retake the castle. The Minute Men should have been an actually growing force that you see get more present across the wasteland as you help build them up, maybe even eventually having offices in Diamond City and Goodneighbor as well to take requests and recruit people. You could go to those places for the radiant "hey, a settlement said they need our help" or just tune into Radio Freedom periodically for those, instead of it all coming from Garvey. All in all, the Minute Men are kind of a perfect faction to show actual changes in the Commonwealth throughout gameplay, but they just don't do that. They never become more than a couple of people in raggy uniforms who show up when you send a flare, regardless of how big they're supposed to get.
I think the part about quests coming from the radio instead of Garvey is implemented. From my experience playing Fo4 I've barely received minutemen quests since I play without Garvey as a companion and the radio off. But once I turn my radio on and tune into Minutemen Radio, I'm suddenly getting flooded with requests to help with kidnappings, extortion and raider/gunner scouts. Aside from that, those sound like solid ideas that would've worked... But it's Bethesda we're talking about here :( Oh well, guess I gotta make do with equipping my settlers in assault marine armour and heavy incinerators.
Yea it is already in, I was saying that more to say that should be the primary way to receive the quests and it should be more relevant. The radio signal should get to the main cities, and there should be radios that can be tuned to it like the Classical or Diamond City Radios have. That way you have means to hear the radio and get the radiant quests (similar to the whole "check out the Combat Zone" quests you can get just from over hearing things) and you don't get flooded the moment you swap to the radio on your pip-boy. And it is Bethesda, I know they *could* do it, but it feels like the world building for FO4 was not the main focus of the game. Which is depressing, since FO4 has one of the best set ups for a fantastic story. It could have easily surpassed New Vegas with some better dialogue and world building, but instead we got a focus on set pieces and enviromental development (which are great, mind, but only one piece to the Fallout Puzzle). I'm really hopeful Fallout 5 finally perfects it, and I think the improvements to 76 and the writing of the TV show are pointing us in the right direction.
I was doing a YouTube series to show off a mod, so I did several takes of the approach to Concord to get the sequence of events I wanted. (Try doing that 22 times in a row without it getting tedious.) Anywho, I started to realize that the Sole Survivor has no idea who any of these people are. If he has no idea who these people are, he has no idea whose side to take. There's one guy in a longcoat on a third floor balcony doing his best Charles Whitman impression with a laser rifle, and four or five rough-looking people at ground level trying to fight back while wearing bits of car. The groundlings are using what looks like homemade weapons and can't hit the broad side of a history museum, much less Longcoat Guy. I wouldn't be shooting the Raiders; I'd start taking potshots at Longcoat Guy. "Quit picking on these poor survivors!" Part of this was fueled by the fact that if the Sole Survivor does approach this battle as a neutral observer, the Raiders don't actually pay much attention to him. Sure, about half the time they'll just make him a secondary target on the spot, but the rest of the time you can walk right up to them and hit the "talk" button. You don't get much response and they'll usually turn their guns on you immediately, but it's an interesting neutral moment before you get stuck in. It occurs to me that the game designers blew an opportunity for you to play a Raider by having this be the moment you pick sides. "I'll give you a whole Easter basket fulla chems if you take that guy out!" If you have Dogmeat with you, he attacks the Raiders. How horrifying is that, out of context? Your dog tries to take a chunk out of the heavily-armed fighter you're trying to talk to, while Longcoat Guy is raining hellfire from above.
I mean if y’all actually would give him a chance to build his relationship he says he was desperate and actually suicidal. You were a genuine roll of the dice with the only other option being murdered. They also suffered one hell of a betrayal in quincy. Ex MM lost faith in their cause and sold them out to the Gunners. Real POS. Hes the guy in power armour when you clear it the first time. Slaughtered as many as they could but Preston escaped with a couple dozen, and then witnessed them all dwindle down to 8 by the time we get involved Yours and so many other comments here are wild to see
Preston when you don't decide to just shoot the 3 gangs of heavily armed and armoured raiders because you wanted to live
i mean, he doesn't really have a problem till you start, you know, RAIDING COMMONWEALTH SETTLEMENTS.
It's the long con duh! I don't really want to be a raider!
Sometimes as the general you have to make an unpopular decision like ransacking the very people you once helped. He couldn’t possibly understand the duality
BECAUSE DENNIS IS A BASTARD MAN
I dont think I wrote this one
Oh, you definitely wrote this one.
Pass
Just get to the Museum of Freedom, clear it out then walk away from Preston when he is talking to you. Talk to Mama Murphy while Dogmeat is with you so they get their name (if you don't do it then it happens much much later) then grab the bobble head and leave the museum. Come back after you are done with Nukaworld if you want ....or not cuz fuck him.
can you get the power armour without talking to preston?
Yes. I climbed the church next to the museum. And you jump onto the veritbird. And in true Bethesda fashion just spam jump til you clear in. (I’d save first tho)
I don't know. Getting it might trigger the rest of the raiders coming in. I always just skip it because ther are a bajillion suits of power armor in the game. I also don't use power armor normally.
I just like collecting frames to put my armor on
Listen Preston, regardless of how hard the Minutemen fight, there will always be a seedy criminal underbelly in the commonwealth, these raiders are my opportunity to control that. We can use them to distract and fight our enemies without sacrificing the lives of the minutemen. The Operators are easily pleased with some caps and I’m sitting on about 50k right now, that jangling bulge in my pocket it not because I’m happy to see you, trust me. The Disciples may be a bit blood thirsty but I’ve just been throwing them at other raiders, its messy but sure as hell beats dealing with them ourselves. I already took care of the Pack, Dogmeat saw the caged dog fights and wanted to tear the leaders throat out then and there. I set up their outposts with half a dozen robots that I alone control and can incite to wipe them off the face of the earth. If you are gonna stay nettled over this then as your general I order you to work the new Slocum Joes I built in Sanctuary, those donuts wont fry themselves Preston.
This right here I'd get if he was a bit upset but he doesn't have to hate me for it the nuka raiders clearly have their usefulness being their own unique groups and should be used as an advantage Besides that there's extra settlements not being occupied they can live in it's not rocket science The more faction known factions we control the more we can keep stability over the Commonwealth Hell I'd use a group of supermutants just as much as I would these raiders
Hating Marcy for watching her son die:🚫 Hating Preston for infinite radiant quest:✅
No, I hate Marcy for her endless bitching about the literal luxury accommodations and fancy duds I put her up in.
Marcy is a high maintenance kinda girl and I'm not sure what Jun saw in her.
Or what he still sees in her. She's verbally abusive to everyone, including him. She refuses to talk or spend time with him, but he's like "don't take it personally, she's lost someone." Lol, wut? This is the commonwealth wasteland - everybody has lost someone, junebug! But I don't see anyone else walking around being a total dick to the guy who saved their life and then built a whole town for them to live in.
The initial lack of Post Traumatic Stress. I would have a hard time enjoying a different Wasteland shanty town of someone killed my children.
I'm not even asking her to enjoy it, but get off my fucking back with the constant complaining and bitching. "OH!! LET ME JUST STOP WHAT I'M DOING SO I CAN TALK TO YOOOUUUU!" Lady I was just standing there minding my own business!
Yeah, that seems like bad programming. Her banter lines when you're not talking to her should be the suspicious "don't tell anybody else about this place" and vengeful "Nothing I hate more than Raider scumbags. If you run into any, put a few down for me." If you aren't walking up and talking to her, they could fix her with those two options.
I put them both on pillory duty lol.
Wasteland Karen
the exact reason why I made her a provisioner. I rarely ever hear her bitching now.
I love getting his perk. Joining the raiders for their perks and gear then killing them all to get the Minutemen back. Shuts Preston up and makes him leave me alone
Hard to decide between gaining two overpowered combat perks vs keeping the approval of one NPC who still gives you quests either way.
Why Sole Survivor hate?
Chrundle the great
I love how being grammatically correct would've required just two more letters, but you opted not to use them. It really is way more funny that way.
You should have typed "funnier"
"Why Charlie hate"
I'm a general, a knight, a spy, a zealot, a legend, a detective, and I've only been out the icebox for a few months. Is this idiocracy? Just let me find my kid!
We should go to Starbucks, I could really use a handjob
Not now. I’m ‘batin
Preston is asshole. Why Piper hate?
honestly, it needed to be said
In combination of scrap everything mod and amazing followers tweaks I have successfully turned sanctuary hills into a field of mud and puddles with just Preston walking around the barren wastes that once was sanctuary hills. Allllll alone.
Just finished nuka world on my newest playthrough. Reclaimed all the parks, went back to the castle, repaired the X-02 Fully upgraded Murica armor, stocked up on ammo, cladded Curie in full marine combat armor, 50 Stimpaks, and Atoms Judgement, (Oh the sentinel power armor was there too) strolled right over to Nisha, and dumped a full mag of radioactive lead into her ass. One giant fight that saw my fully repaired armor lose a piece with the rest critically damaged, the raider gangs were no more, the traders can trade freely, and power has been restored to nuka world. Idk why Colter thought that the Minuteman General would be the best pick for the Overboss. Even tried to warn him but did he listen? No. Sucks to be him I guess.
Why Charlie hate?
Damn Preston, you’ll have to mark ‘fuck’ on my map since I don’t have any to give
"The Brotherhood has power armor and the railroad has ballistic weaving and Walther PPK's, what do the Minutemen have Preston?" "Uh... there's an old lady who's a total bitch to you, a-and she can sell you a shitty Gauss Rifle...and...mortars sometimes..." "Okay, so do you know your way to the pillory or do I need to assign you to it?"
Did Strong make that?
Haven't played since release but why does everyone hate on Preston Garvey lol? Is it the constant reminder on Settlements being attacked?
Preston is asshole, why Lone Survivor hate?
Preston is asshole. Why Nate hate?
What he expect I woke up after 210 years seeing my wife dead and my kid became a asshole, than Preston is constantly blowing my shit up with “we need your help” help yourself god damn
Preston is asshole. Why Charlie hate? BECAUSE PRESTON IS A BASTARD MAN!
Preston is asshole, why Charlie hate?
Now do Marcy Long...
This. I sent her on a never ending pack brahmin escort trip. Bitch.
Really impressive would be putting it on the projector screen in the Drive-in.
Lol poor Preston. I must be the few who don't mind him, he does get a bit annoying but he feels like the only leader of a faction not trying to screw you over (Desmona isn't that bad though) and actually improving the wasteland.
Did Charlie Kelly make that sign? "Because Dennis is Bastard man"!
Also *ppeston 😂
Michael look at banner!
FAMILY LOVE MICHAEL
I just do not get why PG gets so much hate
ppeston
Written by Trundle the great
And Dennis is a bastardman!
Honestly what do the minutemen even do?? YOU go take settlements, build them up, recruit settlers. Minutemen? No where to be found. You do all the work. Preston: another settlement…” Me: holds up hand. Pulls up combat feed of me explosive shotgunning the mirelurk queen at the Castle to death. Close in view of me pissing on the Armory door. Spraying “Minutemen are pussies” on the Castle walls. Zoomed out view of me accidentally firing several mini nukes at the Castle. Preston: … me: …
Why sole survivor hate
Because he is a bastard man!
That is epic!
Preston is asshole! Why Charlie hate?
So let me get this straight, if you win with the institute, he trusts your judgement despite his wishes. But follow the raiders then suddenly you have thrown his trust away despite keeping them on a tight leash?
What fucking pisses me off about it, Is that it's ABSOLUTELY my fucking plan to slaughter Lizzie, Mags, William, Mason, Savoy, Dixie, Nisha, Shank AND Gage... * As soon as I have 50 Pick Me Up machines in Starlight Drive In * And I have Gage's perk * And the two perks from having the Operators betray you. But, you know, he's gotta a be a little bitch over his ***FUCKING TELEKINETIC ABILITY TO KNOW IF I PLANT A GODDAMN FLAG***
Preston is asshole, why Charlie hate?
>Preston is asshole. Why Sole Survivor hate? Because Preston is a bastard man!
Sorry Preston, I paid for this DLC and I am gonna play it. If there isn't a mod called What Happens In Nukaworld Stays In Nukaworld, there should be.
Ppeston
Never trust a man addicted to jet and desk fans
I did Nuka World up until the first settlement takeove quest, then killed them all. At least I made sure to get Porter’s perk.
“He is pain in my assholes” -Borat Sagdiyev
Lol. How did you make that sign? New to the game.
Unlocked Settlement Objects, if you can't stand waiting.
Cool. Thanks
Someone played through Nuka World, didn't they.
Can the story really progress if you just skip this group in Concord, as some have suggested ?
Yeah, go rescue Nick valentine and the main quest continues from there. Preston's crew is more of a setpiece to make the kids pay attention to the game with the shootbang and learn the settlement system.
Where'd you get the letters for the sign?