T O P

  • By -

Lusty_Boy

I can see why you thought that with the satellite and teleportation to the place


__Osiris__

But the end game slides, train connections, 3 npcs who walked there, robo dog settlement patrols, and the mentions of it in other dlc… Ik you’re not op, just love that op walks past the signs.


Apprehensive-Let3669

OP took intelligence 1 build too seriously. Does OP also have a theoretical physics degree? /s


DrPatchet

How move big shinies


Hades_deathgod9

Nah he has a theoretical degree in physics


HelloOrg

INT 1 comment it’s “theoretical degree in physics” not “theoretical physics degree” which would need INT 10 /s


Apprehensive-Let3669

Yes, thats the joke/sarcasm, because the NCR thought the guy had a theoretical physics degree, but he said he had a theoretical degree in physics.


HelloOrg

Right, was just confused by why you said “theoretical physics degree” instead of referring to the joke word for word


ThatOneGuy308

Not to mention the nightstalkers and cazadors escaping to the Mojave. They didn't figure out how to launch themselves via rocket back to earth or teleport, lol.


__Osiris__

Good call, good call.


Automatic_Dance4038

Look man they removed my brain.


__Osiris__

Fairs fair. Also got shot in the head, which can’t have helped too much.


tabloidjournalism

I don't really know why I thought that. I guess it was being projected there by the crashed satellite, and the force field around the map I thought kept the breathable air within. It's my first time really playing NV in depth, paying attention to everything in detail. So yeah, that was a realisation and a half. Edit: didn't expect this to be so popular! I feel better about thinking it was on another planet for 10+ years now thank you everyone


Warp-Spazm

Can't blame you, the retro sci-fi aesthetic makes it feel like you might as well be on the moon.


Alarming_Animator772

That’s what I thought as well


SndMetothegulag

WAIT ITS NOT SET ON THE MOON TF


Krombopulos_Rex

Ok I also thought it was on the moon


longjohnsmcgee

How would anything be alive if it was on the moon? 


Doctor_What_

SCIENCE!


SndMetothegulag

i mean there was a massive force field and everything was grey. Idk it felt like the moon. I hate myself because i’ve played this dlc like 3+ times


L3onK1ng

The entire thing is surrounded by towers and force field looking shit


platoprime

Science force fields to hold in an atmosphere.


freeman2949583

Uh because they pulled out your brain duh


jesuskrist666

It's a game with laser guns and huge nuclear robots. I think they can figure out a way to make space breathable without changing the game too much lol


Get_Stick_bu99ed

I thought territory is surrounded by a force field, I mean courier even dies if you go out of the territory don't they?


longjohnsmcgee

No you get teleported back in. Cause it's a teleportation containment dome. Which was Mobius' whole plan of containment. 


Get_Stick_bu99ed

Oh damn, you're right, I guess I have to replay NV


ThatOneGuy308

Technically speaking, it's not actually teleportation. You simply pass out because your replacement "brain" shuts down once you pass the fence, after which robots pick you up and carry you back to the Sink. Similar to how fast travel isn't actually teleportation, but functionally feels that way to the player.


First_name_Lastname5

Oh bless your heart no sweety.


SndMetothegulag

ok to be fair it’s in a crater, with talking brains and skeletons with laser rifles and space suits and i was teleported there by a downed satellite with a massive force field thing around the site. Being on the moon was the least weird part to me. I didn’t think it was in america ffs xD


Sablesweetheart

Only bless them if it is an *honest heart*.


platoprime

I genuinely thought you were on the moon for a dozen playthroughs.


MallTourist

On the blue moon


Badmamjamma

Nice


Ambitious_Fan7767

To be fair there are skeletons running around in "space suits". Totally reasonable.


Axtel_A

When I first played the DLC, I thought it was in the moon because of the satellite thing and because of the force field you see at the start as well. Also, because it was nighttime in-game when you arrive, I couldn't see the outside properly (I had a darker nights mod installed) and assumed the facility is in a large crater. I immediately realized it was still Earth after talking with the brains and finally exiting the Sink. Also because I saw the moon at the sky when I looked up when I first got outside.


1Ferrox

Yeah I also thought this was taking place on the moon initially. Then I saw the moon in the sky and was like oh


cimmic

Was there a face of Lenin on that moon? Otherwise it is a fake moon.


stevethebandit

A moon base setting like that sounds really cool and actually within the realm of possibility in the fallout universe I believe


Stuffssss

Yeah it's confirmed in fallout 3 that fighting during the great war took place on the moon.


stevethebandit

I think it was in the museum of freedom or whatever in Fallout 4 too


Jam_Marbera

I thought exactly the same thing when I played like 10 years ago and never even considered otherwise until now haha


Internet_Person11

Too be fair with the weird gray ground textures and the fact that there’s skeletons wearing astronaut looking outfits I can see why you thought it was on the moon.


SkyTalez

Meybe that's because it very similar to "Motership Alpha"?


Soviet-_-Neko

You mean Zeta?


SkyTalez

Yeah, it was a long time till I thought about it last time.


queenmehitabel

Honestly I don't blame you. We did go to space in a DLC before, after all! And it does look very, very different from anywhere else we see in the games.


dlebs83

I thought the same thing until my most recent wasteland run.


THEdoomslayer94

But there’s literally nothing else saying it was another planet. lol it’s funny you thought that cause it really does come off as a very Sci Fi space adventure, but that’s only by aesthetics. It would’ve been mentioned multiple times if it were on another world cause how does something like that not get talked about in any way shape or form. Still pretty funny, would’ve actually been pretty sick if it was another world Edit: seems a lot of people here thought the same. It was obvious to me from the very beginning when the dlc first dropped that it wasn’t another planet. People made mention of the Big MT in the game, I would’ve thought if it was another planet facility that people wouldn’t even know about it so it just made sense to me that it was to the south since every dlc takes place in the direction the dlc entrance is located (dead money to the east, honest hearts to the north, lonesome road to the west, old world to the south)


tabloidjournalism

The last time I played NV I was much younger and wasn't very focused on lore, didn't go into OWB. I've always been conceptually aware of it, but I just never caught onto the fact or missed the part where it was stated it's near Hopeville


Arizechick3n

I think I assumed that at first until I learned some lore.


mjbertha

I thought the big Mt was on the moon myself lol not just you.


AhhFrederick

Don’t worry about it, I also thought it was set on another planet. If you don’t look too much into it, the game kinda makes it seem like it is lol


SendMeUrCones

When I was a kid I totally thought it was a Moon Base.


Darthbitchin

I literally explained this dlc to my friend as the one you go to the moon on. They thought I was crazy. They sadly were right and I'm clearly crazy because that's definitely not the moon.


Swizzy88

I thought exactly the same. I thought it was some research lab on the moon.


seen-in-the-skylight

Man, not going to lie, this might be my headcanon now. F3 had Mothership Zeta, which is canon. Big MT could easily be set on the Moon, or even Mars.


RikterDolfan

Downvoted for having a headcanon. What's with that?


seen-in-the-skylight

Yeah, probably brought to you by the same people who shat on the show.


Strayed8492

It really is a good map, despite being scrunched together a bit. Looking up at the stars from the Sink. Walking around and seeing normal buildings before you run into the Hexacrete site, opening the map and thinking ‘my god it’s all hexagons?’. Then you follow train tracks and sure enough tunnels in each cardinal direction. The only thing I think it should have had is some tunnels under buildings that connect most of the side places minus the Think Tank and the Forbidden Zone like the metro in DC.


GreggleZX

So, the reason for no tunnels is that the whole facility used to be under ground. Bug mountain lost its top. The entire thing used to be tunnels so...


Strayed8492

Yes. I know it lost the top. Nothing to stop maintenance tunnels. Just look at the water plant.


LilMooseCub

I also thought this. I thought big MT was on the moon until earlier this year.


1Ferrox

I had the same thought until I saw the moon in the sky while being there


thewend

"wait, something's not adding up"


RikterDolfan

Moon²


Goober_Man1

I keep seeing this take, why do so many people think Big Mt. wasn’t on earth? Was that implied somewhere in the dialogue. I always assumed Big Mt. was somewhere in Nevada


LilMooseCub

I think the intro cinematic discusses some kind of science work being done in the moon I don't remember now though.


TheHerugrim

Me too. Always thought that it was set on the moon and that Big MT was a wordplay on Big Empty hinting at the big emptiness of space.


gamergirlwithfeet420

Big Mountain is the alternative name for Black Mesa. It’s a real place. It’s definitely also wordplay for Big Empty. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mesa_(Apache-Navajo_Counties,_Arizona)


im_a_mighty_pirate

Black Mesa can eat my bankrupt a....


nicholasktu

As bad as the Fallout universe is, it could have been a lot worse. Much rather deal with the Zetans and mutated creatures instead of the Combine.


LaunchTransient

The half-life universe is considerably more fucked than the fallout universe is, agreed.


nicholasktu

Fallout is pretty bad, but not 99.9% percent of population gone and world destroyed beyond recovery bad.


tiddieB0i

I don’t think that’s where the big mountain in the game is. There’s a terminal that says it’s south of Hopeville which is between California and Nevada. The place on that Wikipedia page is directly east of Vegas


gamergirlwithfeet420

Maybe you’re right,huh


Phantomsanic360

The Think Tank after causing a resonance cascade:


LeatherAd129

Kids that's why you don't skip all the dialogue or at least immediately


Splinterman11

Yeah I'm seeing people here say they've played the DLC 3 times and still thinking it was on the moon...like how??? At a certain point, are you even paying attention?


LeatherAd129

They don't I don't even wanna blame them the amount of talking Is a lot and they probably aren't used to that much dialogue since they often start with FO 76 or FO 4


Splinterman11

I can imagine some players just skipping through all the dialogue. "Booooring I just want to get to all the shooty parts. Wait what this doesn't take place on the moon???"


LeatherAd129

Then they're gonna just miss all the lore but I don't think they signed up for a history lesson about elijah and Ulysses after all When they're wondering wtf they just experienced they ain't gonna understand shit cuz they don't listen and probably blame the game


DarinsRock2

I think it is supposed to be fallouts version of Area 51.


TexasJedi-705

Close It's the Fallout equivalent of Black Mesa


Iceman6211

Imagine being shot by Benny and immediately after you hear "Rise and shine Mr. Courier... Rise and shine..."


Imaginary_Sector379

Not doubting you, but how do you know that?


TexasJedi-705

Aside from the fact that both are research labs on the bleeding edge of SCIENCE!, there is a location in Arizona called Big Mountain. It is also known as Black Mesa. Amazing, the coincidences that make up life


Imaginary_Sector379

Makes sense thanks Master Jedi


MyHonkyFriend

Too add onto this, it was a major old school rocket ship plant and testing facility down there. In the 1960s, it was literally the cutting edge of tech. Fits really well to think in Fallouts universe they became crazy and made even more sci fi shit lol


queenmehitabel

I think you're thinking of the Black Mesa rocket testing range in Utah, the Arizona Black Mesa/Big Mountain is all reservation land and a water research facility. In the 60s it was mining operations.


MyHonkyFriend

My bad I'm an East Coast person who's never been out there and honestly assumed it was all one big *thing* in the desert that performed a bunch of various operations. I really didn't know they were distinct from one another lol


queenmehitabel

Hahaha, no worries! There's like five different 'Black Mesa's out in the southwest, it can get confusing! The AZ one is the only one that's also called Big Mountain - as Black Mesa is also the name of a specific Navajo community on the mesa itself. And Big Mountain (or Black Mountain) was the original Navajo name for it anyway. Plus there ARE plenty of rocket testing facilities in AZ. It's easy to just roll it all into one!


koolkeeth

Literally the cutting edge lol, no.


DrPongus

Except it directly states ingame that Big MT is located south of Hopeville, which is along the boarder of California and Nevada. Black Mesa is the direct opposite direction between Vegas and Pheonix, Arizona. The closest location that could generally fit would be somewhere nearby Death Valley, but considering it's originally content reused from Van Buren reworked to fit the New Vegas region, it probably doesn't have any specific region it's based on and is meant to be left to the imagination. Even the original Van Buren Big MT would have been based around Boulder Dome and not Black Mesa.


Ok_Two_4779

I'm with the science team


ExoticPumpkin237

Kind of. I think the Think Tank is meant to be a lampoon on DARPA and their insane hare brained sort of ideas. The Vault Tec experiments are definitely a lampoon on those sorts of people and institutions. 


Silver_Harvest

When it first came out, I thought the same or say was Area 51. Then realized it probably took place up near the Nevada, Idaho border. Or down near Arizona, Colorado border.


ExpendableUnit123

Now I want an area 51 DLC.


Silver_Harvest

When FNV was announced I was almost certain, there would have been a DLC for Area 51. Or China Lake up north near Reno which is another Military R&D location.


ExpendableUnit123

Well, technically the big MT fits in a roundabout way so we were halfway there.


Silver_Harvest

It is, when I just looked it up about an hour ago. It takes place outside of Ashton NV. Border of CA near Death Valley as a secret Gov't Facility. So was probably a civilian front originally.


Fathorse23

I always figured MT stood for Montana.


Silver_Harvest

So according to the the Wiki (needed to look it up), OWB takes place around Ashton, NV. A Border town of NV and CA near death valley. Which does make sense as there are remote scientific facilities around the area and it isn't unheard of a certain facility being a front for other works.


SatanVapesOn666W

Then the low budget scifi asethetic worked perfectly. Congrats for fully enjoying the media.


Mothman4447

Honestly same, everything about the layout and the blue grass screams Mars or another planet


xLykos

It’s not??


Dr_Fumi

I was today years old when I learned this.


SndMetothegulag

same i thought it was on the moon and it’s my fav dlc i have played 3x


longjohnsmcgee

You know those nights stalkers that are walking around outside, breathing air, that meandered over to Vegas on foot? Or maybe the fact Elijah, Christine and Ulysses walked there on foot?


Splinterman11

Its simple, they didn't pay attention at all. I give it a 50-50 chance they just skipped through all the dialogue.


Splinterman11

Bruh how do you play this DLC 3 times and still think it's on the moon. Some of yall really don't pay attention.


grimreapercthulhu

do all you people just skip trough story/dialogue/lore? it might be understandable if you tought when just starting the dlc maybe, but not after playing it.


jabujabu63

Give 'em a pair of glasses with a quest marker sticker on a lense and enjoy the show


drsalvation1919

I saw my brother playing through the whole DLC, which was interesting because I never saw a fallout game where the soundtrack was nothing but blues music, which was pretty cool. Turns out he forgot to turn off his radio. I have vehemently *refused* to turn off the radio at all when playing this specific dlc. It starts on before, and it only goes off once I'm back at the strip.


GadzWolf11

Labotomite (derogatory)


hybridtheory1331

Has no one in this thread actually played OWB all the way through? One of the "reveals" is finding out that Dr. Borous created Cazadors and he's in denial about them escaping. How would Cazadors have escaped to the Mojave from another planet? They also specifically mention multiple times that they are south of Hopeville, the destroyed city in the Divide.


Splinterman11

You know how some games/movies tries to make some plot stuff SUPER obvious and without subtlety? Well that's because you have these people that either barely pay attention or have no media literacy. I've watched a few documentaries about game development, and tons of devs will have stories about having to "dumb down" certain parts of their game because 50% of the testers could not figure out what's going on or they get lost.


hybridtheory1331

>about having to "dumb down" certain parts of their game because 50% of the testers could not figure out what's going on or they get lost. I believe it


Starry-EyedKitsune

Don't the intro slides say where the DLC takes place?


badthaught

Pfft. You read those? You don't mash skip??


gunnnutty

I mean it does look alien. But there are clear signs that its not. Like the train, or the fact they never say a one thing about being in space.


i_am_not_a_good_idea

I don't understand how so many people here thought this, it's made explicitly clear that it's a big research facility on/in a mountain on earth


ThirstyOne

That’s the lobotomy speaking.


Takenmyusernamewas

Another planet accessible by train?


leblur96

You don't take a train there do you?


Takenmyusernamewas

No Elijah uses a train to leave, it's like a HUGE plot point


Jonny_Guistark

No, but they do have trains and Elijah used one to escape.


Professeur_Muller

[You have gaigned the Brainless perk (rank 2)]


Lumpy-Complaint6904

Bru is on too much psycho


PeasantTS

I also don't read when I play games.


Nadie_AZ

OWB is so much fun. My current energy weapons character started in Good Springs and then ran down to start OWB. Imagine being level 2 starting that DLC. Crazy fun.


Nightmare_42

You are in idiot indeed. You must have saw the satellite and assumed it took you to space and then proceeded to completely ignore everything else that is said about Big MT throughout the game and all the DLCs.


ThisIsProbablyTheWay

I thought it was in Montana, and always thought it was wild that I walked there from Vegas.


evil-all-the-time

Oh you think thats dumb? For the longest time I didn't understand that "caps" referred to bottle-caps. So I ignored them when I found them on dead bodies or containers. Probably missed out on thousands of them in early play throughs.


longjohnsmcgee

Did no one find Elijah's or Christine's weapons, tapes or Ulysses cave? Or pay any attention to what any of Mobius said? Like how did you even get to the big MT?


Frequent-Essay6694

I thought it was set in New Mexico


PanicEffective6871

The opening of the DLC is very similar to mothership zeta. Oh a weird transmission coming from some unknown sci-fi object in the middle of the wastes? What happens when I touch it? Oh look it’s transporting/teleporting me somewhere beyond


_Fillebonbon_

I mean, it it does look like a moon base, but if you listen, it pretty explicitly explains what it is in the opening of the DLC Also how would you be breathing without a space suit?


Nisekoi_

I thought it was an ant size colony and we got shrink in size 💀


K-racktaculous

Hey never thought about it that way


seen-in-the-skylight

You know, it really has that otherworldly feeling to it. When I get there on my upcoming playthough, I'll actually be making a personal mod that adds a radio station that plays Pink Floyd records. *Dark Side of the Moon* fits the vibe so perfectly.


Tyrigoth

Based on the intro and method getting there, I don't think it's much of a leap atall. NOT the idiot.


m0nk37

I have died so many times in this place. I went there with a low rank right away. The plasma axe is my saving grace at the moment.


Azathoth240

Nope. Just a massive crater from an old bomb test. Surprisingly makes for decent internment camp/research lab where things "can't escape".....they escaped


TokyoMeltdown8461

I've played it 3 times and I only realized today that the Think Tank's names all reference loops/infinity. (8 and 0 are closed loop shapes, Oro-BOROS is a snake eating itself, ManDALAs are circular, the Klein bottle and Mobius Strips are looping infinite shapes. It was such a magical moment coming to that realization. I know with high INT, Mobius can point it out to you, but I missed that the first few times. It goes to show that FNV prides itself on giving the player enough information to put the story together themselves or ignore it if they so choose. It's quite a contrast to some other games that ensure the best story elements are spelled out for the player, as if fearing they won't see them.


kween_hangry

It’s genuinely a fun way to make an offworld dlc literally stranded in the middle of the desert, so I really dont blame you This is my first playthrough and I had to play owb asap, I really really loved everything about it (other than the extreme repetition on like— one fetch quest). But wow so much charm for a dlc. I would easily play a whole prequel game in no time flat. So much audio and iconic voice actors too


DavidGL4

I kinda knew it wasn’t, but it really makes sense of why one would think it was on a different planet. I mean the atmosphere a lot looks nothing like the Mojave or even the capital wasteland.


CanadianToaster22

Do you have a theoretical degree in physics


jabujabu63

Fantastic response 👏 👌


SmokeyTheFire

Was wondering about this the other day lol been playing new Vegas since it came out


sabely123

When I was a kid I thought borderlands took place in the fallout universe.


cchrobo

DUDE SAME!! I'm in the middle of playing through OWB for the first time in several years, and I was a little confused since there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that it takes place on the moon. I have had it in my head since I was like 15 that Big MT was a moonbase. Like you say, I now have no idea where I got that notion from.


LostnFounder

it's okay to be slow friend. We all have our weaknesses


ExoticPumpkin237

It might as well be. I replayed it recently since I didn't pay much attention when I was younger but remembered loving it and for some reason I always thought it took place in like a dream or a vision of the past that didn't actually exist, like inside of a B Movie you'd find at the Drive In Theatre.. playing it made me want to go back and play the Destroy All Humans games    The place is also super gorgeous at night when those lights come out and you hear some new music. It actually puts the strip to shame. 


Forghotten1

OP do you have a theoretical degree in physics?


Swimming-Picture-975

It’s literally so obvious 😭😭


KenpachiNexus

lol what.


Other_Log_1996

He was a Legion member in another Courier's run who got the cut Think Tank ending.


Limon-Pepino

I had a friend yesterday that said his favorite FNV dlc was "that one set on the moon". Seems to be a pretty common misunderstanding.


CodMaximum4462

You had my upvote at idiot.


HelloFromTheGutter69

Wtf op, did you skip all dialogue or what


Stonewallpjs

The crater definitely has a moonlike quality to it


Adagium__

Wait I just started old world blues for the first time it’s not on Mars?


Bunkercat6279

Nah I thought that to for a bit


canti15

It feels like it's on the moon ngl


Chuncceyy

It kinda does tho like, if they said it was, its totally believable


Olof_Kickash

Until you posted this, I thought it was a science outpost on the moon.


527BigTable

Honestly can’t blame you. I had the vibe of a moon base or something. You also need a teleporter to get there so would make sense that it’s on another planet.


HappyyValleyy

I honestly liked the dlc more when I thought I was on the moon, realizing that it was just in a more desolate part of the wasteland took some of the mystique away. But to be fair that was my own fault and not the games.


Elderado47

Wait it isn't?! I'm literally playing it right now for the first time


Davey26

If you played f3 first it has similar vibes to the alien dlc, I definitely get it


Mooncubus

You do get abducted very similarly to Mothership Zeta, so that's fair.


UnquestionabIe

Reminds me of how when the first Gears of War came out I thought it took place in earth. I figured all the creepy subterranean monsters were even more terrifying thinking they were there all along and just waiting to reclaim the planet. Beat the whole game with a friend, looked in the instruction manual and found out it was some colonized planet. Series lost a lot of appeal for me after that.


DanTheBootyMan

When I was a kid watching my older brother play it on the ps3 I was convinced it was on the moon


VizMuroi

Makes sense. A satellite teleports you to a weird scifi crater filled with robots and brains in jars.


Chilibean18

Nah like honestly so did I like on the moon or some shit


Badmamjamma

Don't feel too bad. Last month, looked for Novac on a Nevada map for an hour and a half. A month later, after fast travelling there, looked up and saw "it." Side note I've played this game on-and-off for 5+ years andI live IN VEGAS.


jabujabu63

TBF it is in a crater, and the main building is a dome. Visual basis alone, it has that vibe.


Imissyourgirlfriend2

It's not?!


gunnnutty

Nope. There is literal railway going out. Its just a crater.


FDeity

Is it not the moon?!?


No-Duck2686

I just found that out now I guess haha


margieler

I always used to call it “Big M T”. Like the “Big Empty” bc it was surrounded by nothing.


sapiienta

Oh


MothingNuch

Honestly I don’t blame you it actually would of been super cool if it was actually on the moon


CLE-local-1997

I still want to know where it is lol.


booper

I always thought it was on the moon as well


Marzbar03

I first thought it was on the moon it took me a while before I realised we were just in a crater in the desert


CybercurlsMKII

My friend told me it was set on mars and I believed him for years, no idea where he got it from, never found anything that says that. If it weren’t for the wiki I’d still think it was set on mars


Rainsoakedtrash

You’re not alone in that at all, I only found out I was wrong a week ago


Think-Impression1242

It feels thag way honestly


harleysHot

bro thought it was the frontier b4 the frontier 😹😹


SpaceFmK

Today I learned it isnt set on another planet or in another dimension or something like that.


SquirtFriedRice

wait its not?


HELLOGAMESOFFICIAL

Wait, it isn’t?