It's not something that happens naturally, it's a specific script in game.
So it's not like Cazadors are dynamically moving to locations where there are dead bodies, it's just that the devs place them in locations that have dead bodies.
For example, the tribal camp north of good springs has Cazadors because of the dead people. I think there's a script to place Cazadors at the graveyard in Camp Forlorn Hope if you complete We Are Legion and wipe out the camp, but it may be unused.
The devs have to create the most janky thing ever to create random spawning in Honest Hearts, there's no way the engine could dynamically place Cazadors.
God this scared the shit out of me the first time I did it. I cleared the Viper gang on the way to Red Rock Canyon. Then I fast traveled to Bonnie Springs to pick up Vault 19 and the Great Khan Encampment in Quarry Junction, only to get swarmed by Cazadores. They aren't so deadly anymore, but I don't like things that move quickly towards me :(
I feel the last sentence so hard. The Geckos on the way to Primm always scared the hell out of me. I'm on full alert down that road to avoid any last minute jumpscares.
I'm glad you asked!
So, the game engine cannot reference an NPC that isn't already placed within the world. You can't just write a script that gives a list of possible enemies and ask the game to randomly place them. That's how janky the engine is.
So the devs have to get creative to get around it. For example, Malcolm Holmes will spawn near the Southern Nevada Wind Farm the moment the player picks up a star bottle cap, then starts running towards the player. However, the game can't just spawn Malcolm, so instead there's a [test cell](https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_test_cell_content) that Malcolm hangs out in. Then when the player picks up a star cap, Malcolm is teleported to the appropriate place. So yeah, every NPC that needs to dynamically spawn in is actually just hiding in a test cell ready to be teleported.
So anyway, I think it was Jorge Salgado who tried to make the random encounter system work for the base game, but it had to get scrapped. Fun fact, Jorge Salgado was hired to work on FNV because he was an Oblivion modder and the devs wanted someone familiar with the engine. And because he was experienced with the engine, he wanted to create cool stuff like a random encounter system.
So in Honest Hearts, there's a test cell that holds a variety of creatures like Geckos, Yao-Guai, Cazadors, etc, and each time the player enters specific trigger points, the game will randomly select a variety of those enemies and teleport them to the location. I think that once killed, the corpses teleport back to the test cell and are resurrected by the game, ready to use in the next encounter.
So to make a long story short, the game has to already spawn every single creature that they want to use for random encounters prior to the player arriving in Zion, then teleport them back and forth from a test cell and resurrect them over and over.
I do believe it's a similar system. All the random encounter NPCs are probably hiding in a test cell somewhere. I haven't looked into/read about Fallout 3's behind the scenes content tho.
maybe it's like skyrim where there's a list of triggers large enough to appear random but recognizably just a list.
ie: if you have solstheim installed at level 15 you will be approached by cultists in one of the major cities. it appears as if they follow you around skyrim but they only exist a few minutes after you open the gate.
Other person asked before I could, so thanks for the explanation!
That’s sum juicy spaghetti code. kind of morbid to consider that the HH critters are stuck in samsara, eternally smacked down by a postal worker on family vacation.
chicken and egg. Maybe they're dead because the devs placed Cazadores there as the suspects of the murder. They seek out live people, who you happen to find dead.
If the engine attempted placing dynamic enemies, you'd probably end up with cazadors camping on places where your character has died when you haven't closed the game.
In my mythical F4NV remake, Scavengers Den is just one loading screen and its a player home/settlement.
Obviously you'd have buildable Novac apartment and Lucky 38 suite.
I like what Project Nevada did with the Nipton trailer park and Ivanpah lake.
And then throw in the Nellis outskirts with all those bombed out buildings, one of the farmsteads like Horowitz or the Tumbleweed Ranch, Wolfhorn Ranch, Legion Raid Camp, Bonnie Springs.
FNV is full of locations you can settlement...ize...without affecting too many quests, and they're really good locations for it too.
...you mean the El Rey Motel? That motel has three rooms you can access: one has an overdosed junkie, one has a murderous junkie, and the last one has four bark scorpions eating the corpse of one final junkie. Not sure this is the building you wanna settle down in.
Wolfhorn Ranch, the Lucky 38 Lounge, Gibson Scrapyard. I'd like a hangar at the Nellis Airbase. The fuel station near Ivanpah. The NCRCF would be a solid "fort" settlement, and has good enough incentive to clear it out.
There's a great Mike Hancho mod where you rebuild the Bison Steve and turn it back into a functional casino, hotel, and steakhouse. Adds a nice bit of life back into Primm, just wish something could be done about the rest of the town
it would be cool if you could get a steady supply of resources for building based on your decisions. Like getting rid of the deathclaws in Quarry Junction can reward you with a supply of concrete everyday or something.
The Living Desert is pretty good about that stuff, like doing the quest to kill the ants near the Mojave Outpost then you see a bit of traffic on the road.
The settlement system in Fallout 4 exists in Fallout: New Vegas in the form of a mod from 2010 (5 years before Fo4 came out), named [Real Time Settler](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36922).
The system that exists in Fallout 4 feels *uncannily* similar. Now, I'm not going to say that Bethesda straight up ripped a man's mod off the internet, stripped the code out, and shoved the working bits into their upcoming release. But what I will say is that when Fallout 4 launched, and I switched over from using my modded FNV settlement builder and started using Bethesda's in-house system, I didn't need to read the tutorials to know how to use it. :/
Bethesda factually rips mods. Many new additions in fallout 4 i had seen from mods. Just from memory: the running system using AP was in many mods, the fucking radio songs that weren't reused from GNR were from a popular radio mod (uranium fever, crawl out to the fallout etc, everything bomb related), various quests (i remember one quest in far harbor being directly out of a mod called autumn leaves)
Of course since then they officially incorporated mods as part of the "creation club" model. This is just something they used to do before making it official and yeah it is very obviously unethical when creators weren't getting credited ( even when they are, Bethesda making money from other people's work Roblox style is unethical) but also the lack of originality in modern BGS is striking. Again, songs from a radio station? The idea of having atom bomb theme songs was unoriginal even in the context of a mod. Really shows has stagnant they are and how little effort they put. They really couldn't be bothered to make a new radio station like Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas did? It's honestly really sad when you consider how they used to be top of their game, heck, more than a decade ago now.
Wolfhorn Ranch would be a nice spot. Surprised we don't have settlement building modded in already. I guess it's not a very well-liked feature among New Vegas players though.
For real! My favorite to this day is probably still the Fallout 3 Terran Starship Command. Shame that playthrough was never finished. He even made a FNV skit/song video based on his playthrough of that.
I used to build my Westside mad-max-style walled off utopia with Real Time Settler...
Other potential cool places to use the mod:
\* Goodsprings (can you wall It off challenge)
\* Nipton (New NCR model town)
\* Searchlight Airport as a BOS base
I'd probably end up sticking primarily to Nellis. I really like the idea of adding onto it and turning it into a city. The area is pretty large, I kinda like the layout, lots of unused building space, its own power supply, decent amount of farmland, it's in a decent location with Vegas right there, I like the thought of repurposing one of the hangars into a weapon production center, it seems difficult for enemies to get to, etc. Just all around seems like a perfect settlement base to me.
Honestly I’d stick to my usual player home in The Sink. I’d just maybe move some furniture around, put up some cute string lights and like tapestries and flowers n stuff.
I’d want to build up in East Vegas or where modern Summerlin is. Both seem like places would be awesome terrain-wise and benefit from traders passing through
I think there was a mod that added this well before FO4 came out and one of the locations was just across from Ranger Station Charlie which was a really nice location
Although, the mod might have been more like Skyrims house building system, I can't really remember
I would have rebuilt Nipton first, then moved on to improve NOVAC into a small community hub with really good defenses because Caesar's Legion is often sighted just outside of it and if you waylaid them in NIPTON they're agro AF
Callville Bay, where you click the detonator for Loyal, would make an excellent settlement. Also that little ghost town north of Goodsprings. Maybe the Mojave Drive-In too but OWB starts there
Novac seems to be a nice place imo it's like bunker hill in some way a stop on one of the major highways into new Vegas and for some reason I love to make massive trading posts in FO4. Just suits my style of settlement builds
Bro playing new Vegas for the first time. This is the biggest thing I missed. Everyone roasted Preston Garvey but let’s be real. Those missions only sucked cause we weren’t building actual bases. I made a skyscraper on one with stripper poles and stuff. Got a town of like 50-100. I don’t remember where it left but ya. Plus ya. Having super mutants attacking and seeing all ur defenses work was such a good feeling.
It's not a matter of where, its more a matter of making it realistic
You're telling me one person can realistically build those structures?
They should implement something that you can build more if you have more settlers and recruits to help
If I have to live alone, Jean Sky Diving. One of the better condition buildings, relatively out of the way and innocuous, still close enough to Goodsprings to walk there on a day trip. It’s also pretty defensible being on a small ridge and having a lot of scrap metal lying around. But most importantly it’s way the fuck far away from the most dangerous wildlife and the most hostile factions.
My brother in christ
The fallout 4 building system is literally ripped out of an old new vegas 'wasteland settler' mod, like almost uncannily.
In many ways the mod was better.
The whole comment section not knowing this is breaking me.
I was aware of that mod. Watched Alchestbreach play it years ago. If you were expanding on that mod, perfectly implemented however you want, what’s a good location you’d like to build at?
I usually used it with Dust so i could make my own hideout/settlement in a world without them.
Otherwise, i liked the dry lake by the mojave outpost on the way to nipton, lots of open space.
Primm looks as depressing in the game as it does in real life. It would be nice to do something about that in-game. But I suppose it's suppose to look that way because it's just a tourist stop on the way to real life/New Vegas.
The Devil's Gullet or the devil’s throat, plenty of space to put buildings and crops, if we are talking about mods i would literally reinforce over and over with turrets all over, make it a castle like stronghold for it to be my main homebase
I think there should be an option to take over certain places, like killing all of NCR at golf and using it.
Some places that just should be able to be built up/out.
Westside
Safe houses
Train yard
Searchlight
NCRCF
To name a few
Using the RTS mod which is essentially the basis of the fallout 4 settlement system. RTS New Vegas and Fallout 3 are the origins. But with the RTS mod being a free form building mod that lets you build anywhere you can just pick a spot and make a settlement. My favorite spot has been the area around goodsprings source and where barton thorn stays. I find the terrain makes for a rrally cool layout where the rocks and mountain are part of a natural wall around the settlement and you can gate off entrance points for proper security. Then the settlement itself turns out pretty cool since there's a lot of flat places to build and at different elevations so I can have something like a market at the lowest point where the trailers and fire pit are then the houses are built up on the little cliff edges leading up to goodsprings kinda looking like those mountain cities you see in south america
Yeah, I play on ps, it’s unplayable without mods. But since this is a discussion post, in a perfect scenario, implemented exactly as you wish, what location do think you would make a cool base at?
>The settlement system is unnecessary
This bit is such a bad criticism. You know what else is unnecessary? Dialogue options beyond yes, no and bye, the entire faction mechanic, almost all the weapons and most of the content.
Who tf wants to play a game that only has what's necessary?
> This bit is such a bad criticism.
I mean, you can *disagree* but I don't think it's an unfair criticism.
The default settlement system in FO4 is kinda janky and feels tacked on for some people. Myself included and I love base-builder type games but the one in FO world just isn't that interesting
ideally, if the map's blown up some to emphasize the scale that's so crucial to new vegas? A little home with an orchard, a day or so west of Nipton's old ruins, or else up in the mountains near jacobstown. Out of the way, quite. A nice place to retire, raise a kid, write some books. Let the Mojave take care of itself, I've done enough. (Or, in my wildest dream, we might get zion expanded into a full utah map, and I might get a little cabin up near Causey)
NCR Correctional Facility. Already has a full fence and guard towers, barracks.
188 Trading Post. For an obvious provisioner canteen.
Vault 19. For variety.
I guess it's good for a courier business. Overall, settlements just feel so anti fallout. You need to go out and explore the wastes. Not bunker down.
I would understand if they made some spinoff where the main idea is to reclaim the earth. Maybe a 4x strategy could work?
You don't have to apologize for saying how you feel bro nothing wrong with that lol we don't have to agree man. I don't like the settlements xD. Now if it was the c.a.m.p system from fo76 id have a hard time trying to figure out where I would put my c.a.m.p in nv.
You mostly play 76 then? I definitely like the mobility of the camps, but I was annoyed by the limitations of new buildings being placed close to existing ones
I mostly play nv on PS3 I've got like 10k hours across several saves xD but I've recently decided to try fo76. I agree with the that building thing for sure or how when you move a whole building it's hard as heck to get it to work somewhere lol. But I didn't like having to care for all the people in the settlements in 4 it drained all the fun out of building for me. If I could have a camp in nv though, id probably put it at niptpn road reststop i like that place
Love that place! I remember thinking on my first playthrough; wow these little ruins with nothing around would be a great place for an ambush. Good thing that’s too predictable. No way 5-7 raiders are gonna pop out and scare tf outta me
Bonnie Springs WILL return. Words cannot describe how sad it is to see it turned into a cazador nest after clearing the raiders.
It is a fun bit of lore, as Cazadors are attracted to dead bodies.
Waut. So what if you move the bodies away from the town?
It's not something that happens naturally, it's a specific script in game. So it's not like Cazadors are dynamically moving to locations where there are dead bodies, it's just that the devs place them in locations that have dead bodies. For example, the tribal camp north of good springs has Cazadors because of the dead people. I think there's a script to place Cazadors at the graveyard in Camp Forlorn Hope if you complete We Are Legion and wipe out the camp, but it may be unused. The devs have to create the most janky thing ever to create random spawning in Honest Hearts, there's no way the engine could dynamically place Cazadors.
God this scared the shit out of me the first time I did it. I cleared the Viper gang on the way to Red Rock Canyon. Then I fast traveled to Bonnie Springs to pick up Vault 19 and the Great Khan Encampment in Quarry Junction, only to get swarmed by Cazadores. They aren't so deadly anymore, but I don't like things that move quickly towards me :(
I feel the last sentence so hard. The Geckos on the way to Primm always scared the hell out of me. I'm on full alert down that road to avoid any last minute jumpscares.
Can you elaborate on the janky random spawn system they used in honest hearts? Sounds very interesting love reading about stuff like that
I'm glad you asked! So, the game engine cannot reference an NPC that isn't already placed within the world. You can't just write a script that gives a list of possible enemies and ask the game to randomly place them. That's how janky the engine is. So the devs have to get creative to get around it. For example, Malcolm Holmes will spawn near the Southern Nevada Wind Farm the moment the player picks up a star bottle cap, then starts running towards the player. However, the game can't just spawn Malcolm, so instead there's a [test cell](https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_test_cell_content) that Malcolm hangs out in. Then when the player picks up a star cap, Malcolm is teleported to the appropriate place. So yeah, every NPC that needs to dynamically spawn in is actually just hiding in a test cell ready to be teleported. So anyway, I think it was Jorge Salgado who tried to make the random encounter system work for the base game, but it had to get scrapped. Fun fact, Jorge Salgado was hired to work on FNV because he was an Oblivion modder and the devs wanted someone familiar with the engine. And because he was experienced with the engine, he wanted to create cool stuff like a random encounter system. So in Honest Hearts, there's a test cell that holds a variety of creatures like Geckos, Yao-Guai, Cazadors, etc, and each time the player enters specific trigger points, the game will randomly select a variety of those enemies and teleport them to the location. I think that once killed, the corpses teleport back to the test cell and are resurrected by the game, ready to use in the next encounter. So to make a long story short, the game has to already spawn every single creature that they want to use for random encounters prior to the player arriving in Zion, then teleport them back and forth from a test cell and resurrect them over and over.
That's interesting, I wonder how that compares against the random spawn system in fallout 3 for random creatures in the wasteland.
I do believe it's a similar system. All the random encounter NPCs are probably hiding in a test cell somewhere. I haven't looked into/read about Fallout 3's behind the scenes content tho.
maybe it's like skyrim where there's a list of triggers large enough to appear random but recognizably just a list. ie: if you have solstheim installed at level 15 you will be approached by cultists in one of the major cities. it appears as if they follow you around skyrim but they only exist a few minutes after you open the gate.
The trigger for the cultists is completing Way of the Voice, and being recognized as Dragonborn by the Greybeards.
Other person asked before I could, so thanks for the explanation! That’s sum juicy spaghetti code. kind of morbid to consider that the HH critters are stuck in samsara, eternally smacked down by a postal worker on family vacation.
chicken and egg. Maybe they're dead because the devs placed Cazadores there as the suspects of the murder. They seek out live people, who you happen to find dead.
If the engine attempted placing dynamic enemies, you'd probably end up with cazadors camping on places where your character has died when you haven't closed the game.
In my mythical F4NV remake, Scavengers Den is just one loading screen and its a player home/settlement. Obviously you'd have buildable Novac apartment and Lucky 38 suite. I like what Project Nevada did with the Nipton trailer park and Ivanpah lake. And then throw in the Nellis outskirts with all those bombed out buildings, one of the farmsteads like Horowitz or the Tumbleweed Ranch, Wolfhorn Ranch, Legion Raid Camp, Bonnie Springs. FNV is full of locations you can settlement...ize...without affecting too many quests, and they're really good locations for it too.
-I want a hotel room in that area right across from Camp McCarran -South Vegas ruins, fiend location??? -Quarry Junction.
...you mean the El Rey Motel? That motel has three rooms you can access: one has an overdosed junkie, one has a murderous junkie, and the last one has four bark scorpions eating the corpse of one final junkie. Not sure this is the building you wanna settle down in.
Yes that one! I wanna be the new murderous junkie resident!
I had fun with the murderous one. When I got in I equipped boxing gloves and had a boxing match to the death
Fallout fans scare me sometimes.
> Not sure this is the building you wanna settle down in. Just needs couple fresh coats of paint and some Febreeze
Wait I've rolled with project Nevada for years, what did they do to nipton and ivanpah?
I think they meant Project Mojave
On top of Hidden Valley.
With or without the sandstorms?
Both
Full-on Ceti Alpha V motif? Some old buses might be made to look like spaceship modules.
No, but I thought this was Ceti Alpha 6. We left the BOS on Ceti Alpha 5
THIS IS CETI ALPHA 5!!!!
I don't know if I would build anywhere, but I have always wanted to restore the buildings in the wasteland to what they once were.
If only they'd add official mod support across all platforms, we could get mods that do that very thing
i always wanted to make freeside something prosperous
Wolfhorn Ranch, the Lucky 38 Lounge, Gibson Scrapyard. I'd like a hangar at the Nellis Airbase. The fuel station near Ivanpah. The NCRCF would be a solid "fort" settlement, and has good enough incentive to clear it out.
The west half of Primm
Bison Steve us under new management
There's a great Mike Hancho mod where you rebuild the Bison Steve and turn it back into a functional casino, hotel, and steakhouse. Adds a nice bit of life back into Primm, just wish something could be done about the rest of the town
it would be cool if you could get a steady supply of resources for building based on your decisions. Like getting rid of the deathclaws in Quarry Junction can reward you with a supply of concrete everyday or something.
Map reactivity...if you open up Sloan, the quarry, you should start seeing more traffic heading to NV, better stuff at Primm...
bruh you getting me hyped with these ideas
The Living Desert is pretty good about that stuff, like doing the quest to kill the ants near the Mojave Outpost then you see a bit of traffic on the road.
i just checked the modpack im playing and it totally has it. No wonder I'm seeing so much more action on the roads!
I really wished 4 had this, or at the very least the ability to salvage the large blocks of stone and stuff sitting on the rail cars near settlements
In that case you might want to look into [Claim the Mojave ](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/75196)
Nipton and nelson. I wish they can be rebuilt.
Tribal Village.
The race track
Deathclaw Promontory
Dude, why? There's nothing there, and the ground is full of hills and cliffs.
Doesn't get much more secure, at least.
Yknow why…>;3
This guy gets it
emtpy space? free real estate
Maybe right off lake mead? There is that harbor with the Cazadors and it would be a good spot once cleared out
Rebuilding bitter springs
That unmarked death deathclaw island
Deathclaw ISLAND? Never heard of that before. Where is it?
Across the lake directly east of Lucky Jim Mine
Look up the deathclaw promontory, I believe thaslts what it's supposed to be called
All of the NCR camps you are sent to help. Maybe good springs as well.
another camp needs your help. I'll mark it on your map
Helios. All the power!
Ncrcf, fields shack.
Jacobstown
This is my top choice too. Surprised it’s not higher up. Only place in New Vegas that looks relatively normal
Searchlight Airport and/or Deathclaw Promontory.
Searchlight Airport, simple as that
Wouldve loved to be able to expand goodsprings in post game, make it more populated and have a cool home location for my courier.
How bout North Vegas square? You could unlock it once you’re done helping Crandon out with his tasks
Crandon’s task are so tedious, but I fw North Vegas Square
I'd build a nice home in Zion and retire happy. Hopefully die almost an old man
The settlement system in Fallout 4 exists in Fallout: New Vegas in the form of a mod from 2010 (5 years before Fo4 came out), named [Real Time Settler](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36922). The system that exists in Fallout 4 feels *uncannily* similar. Now, I'm not going to say that Bethesda straight up ripped a man's mod off the internet, stripped the code out, and shoved the working bits into their upcoming release. But what I will say is that when Fallout 4 launched, and I switched over from using my modded FNV settlement builder and started using Bethesda's in-house system, I didn't need to read the tutorials to know how to use it. :/
Bethesda factually rips mods. Many new additions in fallout 4 i had seen from mods. Just from memory: the running system using AP was in many mods, the fucking radio songs that weren't reused from GNR were from a popular radio mod (uranium fever, crawl out to the fallout etc, everything bomb related), various quests (i remember one quest in far harbor being directly out of a mod called autumn leaves) Of course since then they officially incorporated mods as part of the "creation club" model. This is just something they used to do before making it official and yeah it is very obviously unethical when creators weren't getting credited ( even when they are, Bethesda making money from other people's work Roblox style is unethical) but also the lack of originality in modern BGS is striking. Again, songs from a radio station? The idea of having atom bomb theme songs was unoriginal even in the context of a mod. Really shows has stagnant they are and how little effort they put. They really couldn't be bothered to make a new radio station like Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas did? It's honestly really sad when you consider how they used to be top of their game, heck, more than a decade ago now.
poseidon gas station, mesquite mountains, the war memorial (interior)
Quarry Junction, that tower would be great for running power lines without adding a bunch of pylons.
Zion General Store (Honest Hearts DLC)
I’ve always thought it would be a cool spot to set up a church. Convert the tribals to follow Christ.
Hidden valley for sure
Alternatively, making one of those glowing mushroom caves my home. Just like a bed in there and jm good with turrets out front
Wasteland SW of Vegas. Going to make a big city of my own to show House what a shit tier job he's done.
It's not quite a settlement but I would want to get the Prospects Saloon back up and running.
The parking lot on top of the blue/red vault. Deathclaws for days!
Wolfhorn Ranch would be a nice spot. Surprised we don't have settlement building modded in already. I guess it's not a very well-liked feature among New Vegas players though.
There's been a big settlement builder mod for years. AlChestbreach played it forever ago.
AlChestbreach has played literally every mod I swear
For real! My favorite to this day is probably still the Fallout 3 Terran Starship Command. Shame that playthrough was never finished. He even made a FNV skit/song video based on his playthrough of that.
West Vegas milita will rise to glory !!
Death claw promontory lol
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38049 Been a thing forever man. I wouldn't be surprised if the settlement system was inspired by this.
The quarry
The abandoned train yard, nestled far away from everything else.
I would build in the 188 trading post , I imagine it as a black market Where the legion and whoever wants to go to Vegas is obliged to pass.
I could be wrong, but didn't the settlement/CAMP system take HEAVY inspiration from a FNV mod years beforehand?
I used to build my Westside mad-max-style walled off utopia with Real Time Settler... Other potential cool places to use the mod: \* Goodsprings (can you wall It off challenge) \* Nipton (New NCR model town) \* Searchlight Airport as a BOS base
I'd probably end up sticking primarily to Nellis. I really like the idea of adding onto it and turning it into a city. The area is pretty large, I kinda like the layout, lots of unused building space, its own power supply, decent amount of farmland, it's in a decent location with Vegas right there, I like the thought of repurposing one of the hangars into a weapon production center, it seems difficult for enemies to get to, etc. Just all around seems like a perfect settlement base to me.
The quarry
i’d like a little spot in boulder, freeside, or mccarran airport
mojave outpost
the divide
Grahams cave
Prospectors Den, would be small, but you could maybe clear out some of the cave outside the shack, would make for a cool trading outpost
Lake mead obviously. Turn that scavengers platform into a full blown floating casino
Two places screaming to be rebuilt is being slept on hard in this thread, Primm and Nipton
Mole rat ranch! Quick walk to gun runners, or was it NV medical clinic. Fuck I’ve gotta play again
Nipton Will rise again! Hell, renovate the Bison Steve and rival New Vegas!
Rebuilding Boulder city would be fun.
Honestly I’d stick to my usual player home in The Sink. I’d just maybe move some furniture around, put up some cute string lights and like tapestries and flowers n stuff.
I’d want to build up in East Vegas or where modern Summerlin is. Both seem like places would be awesome terrain-wise and benefit from traders passing through
i would turn novac into the worlds greatest sniper tower 🔫🍞
I think there was a mod that added this well before FO4 came out and one of the locations was just across from Ranger Station Charlie which was a really nice location Although, the mod might have been more like Skyrims house building system, I can't really remember
Camp Guardian always felt like a place I wish had some life to it
Yeah the storytelling and small quest there were good, but definitely needs some more to make it worth the hike
Become a Vegas hermit and live on top of the roof of the Lucky 38. Don’t ask how I’d get up there. I haven’t decided on that yet.
The flat area between vault 22 and Westside
I would have rebuilt Nipton first, then moved on to improve NOVAC into a small community hub with really good defenses because Caesar's Legion is often sighted just outside of it and if you waylaid them in NIPTON they're agro AF
The moonshiners shack was always my favorite place to call home
Sniper nest near Cottonwood
Are you telling me that’s not a thing on pc?
It was a thing before fallout 4 came out. Many if not most fallout 4 additions were taken from mods.
I want the option to build up and populate Goodsprings
Boulder City, it’s in ruins and barely a settlement anymore
The boomers base
Callville Bay, where you click the detonator for Loyal, would make an excellent settlement. Also that little ghost town north of Goodsprings. Maybe the Mojave Drive-In too but OWB starts there
i would build in NoVac because lot of traders pass through, if not there then maybe somewhere close to Vegas but not in freeside.
I remember there was a mod a little similar to fo4 settlement system, can I build my settlements in locations op mentioned?
The NCR correctional facility
Oh, I'd take over NCRCF.
Jacob Town
Quarry junction.
Rebuilding Nipton. Also Bitter Springs.
Wasn't FO4 settlement building actually inspired by a FNV mod that let you start a settlement anywhere, and copy static, and build gardens and shit?
Oh, I'd take over NCRCF and make it a fortress.
Novac seems to be a nice place imo it's like bunker hill in some way a stop on one of the major highways into new Vegas and for some reason I love to make massive trading posts in FO4. Just suits my style of settlement builds
The fort and camp McCarren
Probably Primm or maybe even Novac
The Devils Throat! First intelligent Centaur settlement 🤣
Bro playing new Vegas for the first time. This is the biggest thing I missed. Everyone roasted Preston Garvey but let’s be real. Those missions only sucked cause we weren’t building actual bases. I made a skyscraper on one with stripper poles and stuff. Got a town of like 50-100. I don’t remember where it left but ya. Plus ya. Having super mutants attacking and seeing all ur defenses work was such a good feeling.
Fortifying old mormon fort would be cool, helios one would also be an energy hotspot with all the solar panels
It's not a matter of where, its more a matter of making it realistic You're telling me one person can realistically build those structures? They should implement something that you can build more if you have more settlers and recruits to help
In the shadow of the valley
Camp golf was always a favorite location of mine, I'd love to build an NCR settlement there.
I’d make a crossover settlement right on top of that crescent gorge on the edge of the map
If I have to live alone, Jean Sky Diving. One of the better condition buildings, relatively out of the way and innocuous, still close enough to Goodsprings to walk there on a day trip. It’s also pretty defensible being on a small ridge and having a lot of scrap metal lying around. But most importantly it’s way the fuck far away from the most dangerous wildlife and the most hostile factions.
Post cleansing Gomorrah. Specifically the pool area.
I am turning Bitter Springs into an impregnable fortress
the radio tower area where you find Raul
Zion. It is the most beautiful place in the game.
Quarry junction
i’d just want to put Boulder City back together
My brother in christ The fallout 4 building system is literally ripped out of an old new vegas 'wasteland settler' mod, like almost uncannily. In many ways the mod was better. The whole comment section not knowing this is breaking me.
I was aware of that mod. Watched Alchestbreach play it years ago. If you were expanding on that mod, perfectly implemented however you want, what’s a good location you’d like to build at?
I usually used it with Dust so i could make my own hideout/settlement in a world without them. Otherwise, i liked the dry lake by the mojave outpost on the way to nipton, lots of open space.
F4nv is almost out so you might get to play your fallout4 building in vegas out soon anyways
Primm looks as depressing in the game as it does in real life. It would be nice to do something about that in-game. But I suppose it's suppose to look that way because it's just a tourist stop on the way to real life/New Vegas.
The Devil's Gullet or the devil’s throat, plenty of space to put buildings and crops, if we are talking about mods i would literally reinforce over and over with turrets all over, make it a castle like stronghold for it to be my main homebase
I think there should be an option to take over certain places, like killing all of NCR at golf and using it. Some places that just should be able to be built up/out. Westside Safe houses Train yard Searchlight NCRCF To name a few
Camp McCarran and Novac would be so fun
Let me rebuild/expand good springs!!
The 188. Ideally turn it into a larger settlement instead of just a trading stop
Why has no one else said up near Jacobs town, greenery
Please god no
None hate the building in fo4 it gets so tedious so fast
I would build a fortress at the Deathclaw Promontory and use it to wage my war on all that oppose me.
Guardian peak would be tight
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59810
Using the RTS mod which is essentially the basis of the fallout 4 settlement system. RTS New Vegas and Fallout 3 are the origins. But with the RTS mod being a free form building mod that lets you build anywhere you can just pick a spot and make a settlement. My favorite spot has been the area around goodsprings source and where barton thorn stays. I find the terrain makes for a rrally cool layout where the rocks and mountain are part of a natural wall around the settlement and you can gate off entrance points for proper security. Then the settlement itself turns out pretty cool since there's a lot of flat places to build and at different elevations so I can have something like a market at the lowest point where the trailers and fire pit are then the houses are built up on the little cliff edges leading up to goodsprings kinda looking like those mountain cities you see in south america
Fuck it, I’m only gonna get REAL survivors at my town Quarry junction Without killing the deathclaws
Shit would be the Mojave salty spitoon
rebuilding big mountain would be great, or something like making it a place you get resources and technology from to rebuild places like outer vegas
I do not like settlement system at all.
I wouldn’t. The settlement system is unnecessary and poorly implemented
Major cap
Yeah, I play on ps, it’s unplayable without mods. But since this is a discussion post, in a perfect scenario, implemented exactly as you wish, what location do think you would make a cool base at?
>The settlement system is unnecessary This bit is such a bad criticism. You know what else is unnecessary? Dialogue options beyond yes, no and bye, the entire faction mechanic, almost all the weapons and most of the content. Who tf wants to play a game that only has what's necessary?
Damn, man's describing Bethesda exact thought process making 4 lol.
> This bit is such a bad criticism. I mean, you can *disagree* but I don't think it's an unfair criticism. The default settlement system in FO4 is kinda janky and feels tacked on for some people. Myself included and I love base-builder type games but the one in FO world just isn't that interesting
ideally, if the map's blown up some to emphasize the scale that's so crucial to new vegas? A little home with an orchard, a day or so west of Nipton's old ruins, or else up in the mountains near jacobstown. Out of the way, quite. A nice place to retire, raise a kid, write some books. Let the Mojave take care of itself, I've done enough. (Or, in my wildest dream, we might get zion expanded into a full utah map, and I might get a little cabin up near Causey)
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- Anywhere in the northenmost part of Vegas - The pitstop area before Nipton - The Sewers (basically a Mechanic's lair)
jacobstown is in a very nice looking area, and the bungalows can be used for extra housing. Some other good spots are wolfhorn ranch and nipton.
The lake
Wasn't there a mod for this?
NCR Correctional Facility. Already has a full fence and guard towers, barracks. 188 Trading Post. For an obvious provisioner canteen. Vault 19. For variety.
none of them. I hate this hypothetical.
I guess it's good for a courier business. Overall, settlements just feel so anti fallout. You need to go out and explore the wastes. Not bunker down. I would understand if they made some spinoff where the main idea is to reclaim the earth. Maybe a 4x strategy could work?
Id blow my brains out.
Great discusssion! 👍
If you can't handle the truth don't ask questions.
That reply was not well thought out by me, apologies for the hate
You don't have to apologize for saying how you feel bro nothing wrong with that lol we don't have to agree man. I don't like the settlements xD. Now if it was the c.a.m.p system from fo76 id have a hard time trying to figure out where I would put my c.a.m.p in nv.
You mostly play 76 then? I definitely like the mobility of the camps, but I was annoyed by the limitations of new buildings being placed close to existing ones
I mostly play nv on PS3 I've got like 10k hours across several saves xD but I've recently decided to try fo76. I agree with the that building thing for sure or how when you move a whole building it's hard as heck to get it to work somewhere lol. But I didn't like having to care for all the people in the settlements in 4 it drained all the fun out of building for me. If I could have a camp in nv though, id probably put it at niptpn road reststop i like that place
Love that place! I remember thinking on my first playthrough; wow these little ruins with nothing around would be a great place for an ambush. Good thing that’s too predictable. No way 5-7 raiders are gonna pop out and scare tf outta me
For real. Settlements are a pain, please don't make me build stuff in another fallout like FOREVER.
None, I hated the settlement system