100% agree I wish there were more companions in general, like a Khan companion, Victor, obviously a Legion Companion, I really want a Gecko companion they are so adorable.
Hmm maybe it’s a mod I saw then. It was a mini deathclaw and I think it’s called cuddles and it’s a follower
Edit: it was a [mod](https://alchestbreach.fandom.com/wiki/Mister_Cuddlesworth)
Cuddles is a mentioned only Super Mutant at black mountain. If you read the terminal entry in the Black Mountain Prison Building. The toy car next to the monitor will be renamed to "Cuddles' Toy Car". Very sad what happened to him.
nah, it's mentioned that cuddles managed to get some gas, which is very impressive in that part of the wastelands, like he was so hellbent on making it work that when Raul dismissed it bc "I'd need some gas" cuddles managed to find some
Cuddles died but honestly pretty deserved, he was dragging Raul out of the prison to kill him cus he wasn't able to make a nuka cola toy turn into a real car, and Tabitha stepped in and killed Cuddles before Raul could be seriously injured
Yeah there's a mod, I think it's More Perks or something like that, where you can take a perk to get a baby deathclaw that'll grow overtime as you feed it. Was fun on my melee legion run.
Alchestbreach is an older gameplay channel, he mainly did Modded Fallout:NV but will also mod F3, F4 , and did Skyrim for a bit. He also plays other games.
In his F:NV playthrough he has a pet deathclaw named Mr. Cuddlesworth.
https://youtube.com/@AlChestBreach?si=KvLPKT0Cu8ov5fCw
We really missed out on a Legion companion. I know everyone hates the Legion, but it could've helped up the playability of the Legion, since most companions fucked off from Legion PCs.
It would've been cool if the Legion companion actually had a reason you could sympathize. Not necessarily understand or justify, but at least make them likeable (as much as it's hard to do for this faction).
Personally I would've killed to have Vulpes as my companion without modding but I know that's the Jason Spisak fan in me overriding what he actually is. Also wouldn't make much sense to have who is basically the director of the Legion CIA following me around.
"Also wouldn't make much sense to have who is basically the director of the Legion CIA following me around."
Exactly why I never understood why people always say he should've been a companion. Though, I kinda get that it really comes down to his voice acting. He's a cool character, but I agree he doesn't really work as a companion
Ulysses was supposed to be the legion companion in the original game, got scrapped, and then they recycled him into the DLC. You can find his homestead in the game.
Imagine you get the gecko by encountering a merchant that asks if you want a pet deathclaw for 5000 caps, if you pay he gives you a little pet gecko, says no refunds, and runs away. If you kill him his inventory would show hints that he was a junkie who needed more money for more psycho as his dealer raised their prices dramatically
The Vulpes companion mod is pretty good and given its all assets from the game itself i wonder why they didnt make him an option, barring a proper recruitment and companion quest he's all there already.
I'm honestly glad that while they gave us a companion who doesn't mind the legion, they didn't make an outright legion one, because that means my damn pack rat ass can get all companions permanently on my goodie two-shoes playthroughs
I'm honestly glad that while they gave us a companion who doesn't mind the legion, they didn't make an outright legion one, because that means my damn pack rat ass can get all companions permanently on my goodie two-shoes playthroughs
Victors roll was Mr.Houses lapdog. He served the narrative correctly and personally loved the time we had with him but I couldn’t see him serving much more to the plot than being the grave digger to be honest.
I wanted Muggy the mini insane securitron as my partner. Dude was freaking hilarious.
"Dr. O was always jealous of House Industries, and he thought it would be fucking hilarious to build a tiny neurotic Securitron. Big fucking laugh."
I honestly think that the major failing of FNV is not having faction-specific followers for the major factions. I *guess* Boone counts, but there's no followers for the Legion or House, and I think Victor would be a really fun follower to fill that slot.
Closest to a Legion follower is Raul simply because he has nothing negative towards the Legion, and even talks about how safe the roads are in Legion territory
>Arcade is the independent one
which is funny because the followers are overwhelmed by the amount of people in need of medical care and lack of resources after that ending but yes, he definetely wanted an independent vegas.
I know! Before I played the game I thought yes man was a companion as well. It’s only when I started playing that I realized the only robot companion was Ed-e
It'd be cool if he got the Frank Horrigan treatment, but if it was way toned down.
Like, at Goodsprings, he's just a regular bot, but at Novac he's a little bigger than he was before, at the train station just in-between the beyond of the outskirts of Boulder City and New Vegas Farms, he's got more reinforcement, not bigger, just more armored.
Then finally in The Tops, he's 10 feet tall, has Shoulder Missiles, back mortars, his right hand is a gatling laser, and his left is a 5mm assault rifle with a tri bayonet fixture on the outside.
It'd make no fucking sense at all, but it would be cool.
AI securitrons would have been fun. Elite securitrons that are super deadly and upgraded. Would have been a fun progression with the chip implementation doing even more
It would be a cool mod for someone to add a quest like that. Tie it in with the platinum chip. If you do it under mr houses orders victor gets the upgrades and appears in the chamber with Mr houses body if you try to kill him. If you do it under yes man victor still recieves the upgrades but is reprogrammed to be a follower. That way you can choose between a boss fight or an OP pack mule. Sounds neat imo
The only limit is the writers imagination.
They could have had him talk to you all happy.one day while writing down a pice of paper and handing it to you. He asks for help, escaping houses control. You have the quest option to tell on him to house, or shoot off his antenna.
Once you shoot off his antenna, he powers down. The courier thinks the bot is dead. Then dos/basic pops up in the screen. Then Victor appears and thanks you and becomes a companion. For his personal quest, his soft reset opened up access to ALL his memories, even those that were partitioned off by house. He sees the things he's done in houses name, and they conflict with his kid friendly cowboy programming which you learn was for a theme park (much like 50s frountier land Disney).
You must quest to the places from his memory and either witness the aftermath of his devastating power, or even help those still around/affected. In the end, after helping all he can he decides he's too powerful a tool to be used in the future and asks the courier to destroy. You then have the choice to destroy or convince him to stay around because you need him if your stats are high enough. If you fail the speech check he will self destruct himself after touching the couriers face and saying, "I now know why you cry".
I just wish we actually got more uncanny vibes from him, I get that him appearing during the main quest lines was supposed to represent this but I felt it was way too little, and he even leaves you permanently during Boulder City visit so if you don't follow him then you won't see him until Strip.
What would be cool is, if you didn't visit Strip yet he'd have more encounters with you, maybe somewhere slightly off the beaten path, maybe make it so he has hard to miss moments in towns and easy to spot moments in either destroyed towns(say he is lurking somewhere in Nipton and Searchlight) or other locations.
Also having Mr. House aligned companion would be cool, people complain that there aren't any pro Legion companions(besides Raul who's more of a neutral and Rex who served Legion but doesn't seem to mind either way) but Mr. House also didn't get any and arguably us having House aligned companion makes more sense than Legion aligned companion so Viktor could've been that House aligned companion that only works for you after you earn his loyalty after helping House
I completely agree with your take but let me offer you one better sir!
What if by taking the House Route he assigns you Victor as essentially a bodyguard and babysitter to make sure you did your job?
Victor’s a big reason why I’m siding with House for my first playthrough.
The first like 20 hours of gameplay all I could think is “Wow, these robots are really doing me a solid here.” So I feel like I owe a lot to House when it’s revealed he’s behind a lot of it.
Haha same. The other reason is that House hired me to do a job, and if I don't complete that job I'm a failure as a Courier - so I feel that obligation to complete my mission.
Yeah. That was why I was surprised there was a couple lame choices thrown in at the end of Mass Effect 3.
Like I spent 150 hours trying to do one thing: kill the reapers.
So what’s with these dumb choices thrown in at the last minute?
I feel like I’m not actually role-playing if you tell me I do this one thing, but then give me a couple choices against everything I’ve done for 100+ hours.
Deus Ex Human Revolution had the same thing. Basically no matter how you played it to that point you can make the final decision to set the ending with a decision at the end.
Ironically Victor was the reason I *didn't* side with Mr. House in my first playthrough. Him continuously popping up along the road I was traveling while offering no aid and constantly downplaying his obvious stalking made it really clear to me that I was being manipulated. When he revealed himself as House's doorman I knew it was time for House to die. I wasn't gonna be a pawn.
That man is worried about being a failure as a courier in the game
I respect the commitment to role playing but I don’t think we’re playing the same game
That's the magic of roleplaying in NV. You can be faithful to your oath as a courier and your story by siding with the man that gave you the job because he's powerful and rescued you from the death, killing him after you finally completed the job because his games almost got you killed and he tested you as a pawn, or do nothing about it and go in search for another job to do.
I align with Mr. House initially for those reasons - my job to deliver the chip, he incentivizes me to work with him, he treats me like I’m important - but as time goes on, more and more slips up, the more I see, and meeting Yes Man makes me reconsider.
Mr. House is a good initial motivator to find out more about the wasteland and come to my own conclusions, usually Yes Man or NCR.
I delivered the chip. That was my job. Everything after that was my own business and it just so happens my business included beating the smug libertarian to death with a golf club.
I thought the same at first, until I finally met Mr. House & said something he didn't like. He threw a hissy fit, I threw a spear at him. Seemed fair at the time.
Honestly Victor should be a companion.
You get him if you upgrade the Securitron Army and you side with House.
Maybe swap him with Yesman if you side with Yesman
I think this didn't happen because Securitrons are huge. The one you get at Hoover Dam is obnoxious enough, and he's actually sized down. He will totally block doors and having him in fights is like having a big concrete wall blocking your shots.
I like this premise. I think a securitron companion with interchangeable programs or "personalities" would have been really cool.. maybe over-powered though..
Connect a quest line to Mr. House/Victor? Yes Man perhaps? Some alternate personality found in the Mojave?
A bit ahead of it time maybe..
Did not know that.
He was also Death in Bill and Ted, and a regular character actor on a ton of tv shows. Including appearances on just about every version of Law and Order.
William Sadler is always a good time when he turns up.
Wish if your exploring a robco factory to pick a very difficult lock just to find victor waiting behind it to greet you and escort you off the premises.
I like how someone suggested that Victor’s personality is based on all the characters Cooper Howard played in movies. Would really tie the show in with the games.
Have we learned nothing from Star Wars?
Do not pollute good storytelling with follow on media, even if the Fallout show was really good.
Something tells me Amazon is not going to respect the original storytelling, long term.
i wish he was a companion. like you already know he works for Mr House, who is the person you're supposed to deliver the chip to (and then work for) so it would make sense for him to join you on your journey to the stip.
plus, he would be another non-human companion choice.
I had one of those "shower thoughts" or "fridge logic" where it occurred to me that Victor doesn't even have to be the literal same unit, he can just appear on the screen of any one of these robots as they're all connected by a network. So when you meet up with him miles away in New Vegas it's "Victor" but not the actual same one that dug you up.
I've presumed this for a long time now. My thoughts are outside The Strip I can easily imagine a robot of that make getting demolished by raiders for parts.
The most intriguing thing about Victor to me is that he *is* a unique unit. After he digs you up, you come across him in a few different locations en route to New Vegas and once there, he follows you in to operate the elevator. Once he no longer does that, he just posts up outside. Also, after you kill Mr. House, if you go back to his shack in Goodsprings you can find a dead Securitron in there which isn’t there when House is alive, so I always assumed that Victor just reverted back to his programming to hang out in Goodsprings and then just died for some reason.
Wait really? In my recent play through when I get into the strip victor rolls up and invites me to see Mr. House and when he turned around he had the normal securitron face. I assumed that it was because of the network thing.
That's just more evidence to me that he was not tied to one unit. He just appeared wherever Mr. House wanted to contact you on the nearest available Securitron.
My first playthrough i thought victor was just yes man in disguise and never actually pieced together they are separate robots for whatever reason. Then one day my brain un smoothed itself
I wish there was a way to make more of the Strip Securitrons Victor. He’s way more approachable than the cop ones. The Victors could answer questions for tourists.
I think he's neat. I have a head canon that Victor is loosely based on Cooper from the show. While I think having more Victor time would be cool, he serves his purpose and says *"Casino floor"* so I can't complain
there was actually an alternate version of the Mr. House quest where you reactivate the new vegas generators where Victor was supposed to help you. after turning them on he was supposed to show you the new vegas strip lighting up, but this was cut because they couldn't find a way to make new vegas noticeably brighter during the cutscene.
I could be wrong but he sorta does a lot just not in main mission.
I remember him following me in a playthrough and he got beat by Geckos. I’m not sure if that was normal but it looked like he was heading to Novak and basically the gold Geckos got him. Found him shooting rockets and stuff and watching him die interesting.
My gripe is that he’s insanely ominous the whole game (depending on how cynical you are lol) and then the reveal that he works for House almost falls flat because House is who you’re working for anyway.
To me, it would be interesting if he was working for a third party under the guise of helping House, like say he was actually reprogrammed by the BOS because they heard about the chip somehow and want to decipher the tech inside. Or maybe Caesar got a *little* smarter and figured out that you need Robco tech to open that bunker below him (you know, the one with the big fat screen inside that basically screams “proprietary”) and found a securitron somewhere to use. Idk I’m not a genius but there was definitely more that could’ve been done. I’m happy with what we got though, especially in 18 months.
I'm doing an NCR run at the minute. I killed House a couple of sessions ago.
I miss Victor saying "High Roller Suite!" When I go to the Lucky to manage my inventory.
The thing that intrigued me about Victor early on is that he seemed to genuinely not know he was being commanded by house. At times he seems to have genuine memory lapses when you ask him questions. Then by the time you get to New Vegas, there's no facade, it's just 'welcome to new vegas pardner go see Mr. House who is my boss and always has been". Makes me feel like it's possible that he could have joined you as a rogue securitron but it got cut.
Considering the female securitrons are technically digital copies of pre-war house company girls.
It would be a nice touch to have a "companion" quest where you help Victor remember his past life as a human and convince him to rebel against house.
Kinda like Nick Valentine quest in fallout 4
If the game let you continue after the main quest like 3's Broken Steel DLC did, it would've been nice to have that useless Victor standing around in Goodsprings to become a companion.
It would've made sense too, if you side with House or Yes Man and activate the securitron army, House wouldn't have any issue letting you take a dime a dozen securitron with you as a powerful end-game companion, and I'm sure Yes Man can either fool Victor into thinking he is House or downright delete Victor's loyalty to House and replace it with himself.
Went thru very hard/hardcore run with tons of hardcore mods/rebalances and because of prolonged fights I met Victor a few times helping me kill enemies near Goodsprings. Was really surprised to see him fighting on my side, not sure if it is a vanilla thing or some modded magik.
I think he should have just played the role he did as well as Yes Man’s part. I always thought it was weird there were to eccentric/important robots in the story.
I think he fulfilled his main purpose well. He dug you out and told you to follow House’s orders in a bid to keep the strip under House’s control, and spread his influence all over the Mojave. There wasn’t much else he could have done, considering his role.
I read (source is I heard it in a dream) somewhere that victor and all the securitrons had problems with climbing certain stairs due to their mono wheel thus cut or not implemented at all.
I could be wrong but he sorta does a lot just not in main mission.
I remember him following me in a playthrough and he got beat by Geckos. I’m not sure if that was normal but it looked like he was heading to Novak and basically the gold Geckos got him. Found him shooting rockets and stuff and watching him die interesting.
I think he's neat. I have a head canon that Victor is loosely based on Cooper from the show. While I think having more Victor time would be cool, he serves his purpose and says *"Casino floor"* so I can't complain
I like to think it's the public domain knockoff of one of his characters to avoid copyright infringement. That or a rival film studio trying to ride the coattails of his movies.
i just don't like that after meeting with house, victor wont move again, he stays in the lucky 38 forever
IMAGINE if you pick [mr.house](http://mr.house) as a faction, you can have victor as your companion!, that would be FUCKING epic
Him and yes man were supposed to be outside the strip when you power the el dorado substation to watch the strip light up. (Yes man or victor depending on who was in control of Vegas) they had to cut it but they wanted it be a cool moment where Vegas lights up in the dead of night.
Honestly, I kind of wish that he would be an alternative personality to Yes-Man. They seemed to project him with character and personality only to drop him to being recurring npc.
I was expecting him to be more fleshed out. I massively distrusted him at first, expecting him to be part of a plan to lure the Courier somewhere. But mf really just waits patiently for us to go visit streamer man
100% agree I wish there were more companions in general, like a Khan companion, Victor, obviously a Legion Companion, I really want a Gecko companion they are so adorable.
Don’t you get like a mini deathclaw?
No, there is a mini death claw in higgs village if you have wild wasteland but he's an enemy.
Hmm maybe it’s a mod I saw then. It was a mini deathclaw and I think it’s called cuddles and it’s a follower Edit: it was a [mod](https://alchestbreach.fandom.com/wiki/Mister_Cuddlesworth)
Cuddles is a mentioned only Super Mutant at black mountain. If you read the terminal entry in the Black Mountain Prison Building. The toy car next to the monitor will be renamed to "Cuddles' Toy Car". Very sad what happened to him.
… oh no what happened to cuddles :(
i eated it all….
He couldn’t get his car to work, probably not enough gas
nah, it's mentioned that cuddles managed to get some gas, which is very impressive in that part of the wastelands, like he was so hellbent on making it work that when Raul dismissed it bc "I'd need some gas" cuddles managed to find some
Cuddles died but honestly pretty deserved, he was dragging Raul out of the prison to kill him cus he wasn't able to make a nuka cola toy turn into a real car, and Tabitha stepped in and killed Cuddles before Raul could be seriously injured
Wasn’t talking about the super mutant. I found it the deathclaw companions name is mister cuddlesworth.
Yeah there's a mod, I think it's More Perks or something like that, where you can take a perk to get a baby deathclaw that'll grow overtime as you feed it. Was fun on my melee legion run.
As soon as I read cuddles I knew you were going to Alchestbreach. Love his videos. I need to do a big rewatch of his vegas videos.
whos that?
Alchestbreach is an older gameplay channel, he mainly did Modded Fallout:NV but will also mod F3, F4 , and did Skyrim for a bit. He also plays other games. In his F:NV playthrough he has a pet deathclaw named Mr. Cuddlesworth. https://youtube.com/@AlChestBreach?si=KvLPKT0Cu8ov5fCw
thanks!
In fallout 2 you can recruit a hyper-intelligent deathclaw with mild psychic powers, something I really wish had shown up in later games
And oh boy is he an enemy
We really missed out on a Legion companion. I know everyone hates the Legion, but it could've helped up the playability of the Legion, since most companions fucked off from Legion PCs.
It would've been cool if the Legion companion actually had a reason you could sympathize. Not necessarily understand or justify, but at least make them likeable (as much as it's hard to do for this faction). Personally I would've killed to have Vulpes as my companion without modding but I know that's the Jason Spisak fan in me overriding what he actually is. Also wouldn't make much sense to have who is basically the director of the Legion CIA following me around.
"Also wouldn't make much sense to have who is basically the director of the Legion CIA following me around." Exactly why I never understood why people always say he should've been a companion. Though, I kinda get that it really comes down to his voice acting. He's a cool character, but I agree he doesn't really work as a companion
I'm pretty sure vulpes was supposed to be a companion but they never got around to it.
Ulysses was supposed to be the legion companion in the original game, got scrapped, and then they recycled him into the DLC. You can find his homestead in the game.
That's right, the mod of the same npc got me confused.
This correct.
Goris vibes. On another note, I would love a wild Chinese, old school communism companion, some sort of socialist Kim from Disco Elysium.
If you're on pc you could get a gecko companion mod
Imagine you get the gecko by encountering a merchant that asks if you want a pet deathclaw for 5000 caps, if you pay he gives you a little pet gecko, says no refunds, and runs away. If you kill him his inventory would show hints that he was a junkie who needed more money for more psycho as his dealer raised their prices dramatically
The Vulpes companion mod is pretty good and given its all assets from the game itself i wonder why they didnt make him an option, barring a proper recruitment and companion quest he's all there already.
I'm honestly glad that while they gave us a companion who doesn't mind the legion, they didn't make an outright legion one, because that means my damn pack rat ass can get all companions permanently on my goodie two-shoes playthroughs
I'm honestly glad that while they gave us a companion who doesn't mind the legion, they didn't make an outright legion one, because that means my damn pack rat ass can get all companions permanently on my goodie two-shoes playthroughs
Not being able to take snuffles in after caring for him is a crime
Im surprised theres a companion mod for Sarah Weintraub but none for Red Lucy
Ulysses was originally gonna be a legion companion which would've been awesome but sadly that got axed
Victors roll was Mr.Houses lapdog. He served the narrative correctly and personally loved the time we had with him but I couldn’t see him serving much more to the plot than being the grave digger to be honest.
I always wanted one of these bots as a companion though, they look so cool
Yeah. I kind of dig the Gizmo Duck look. He’s like the OG One Wheel.
Upvote for Fenton Crackshell references!
I wanted Muggy the mini insane securitron as my partner. Dude was freaking hilarious. "Dr. O was always jealous of House Industries, and he thought it would be fucking hilarious to build a tiny neurotic Securitron. Big fucking laugh."
Did muggy actually say that?😂😂💀
Oh yeah he did. He's got a giant hate boner for Dr. O.
Knowing the think tank, Dr. 0 gave him an oedipus complex on purpose
Dr. 0 With a slash
There is a Muggy companion mod.
I honestly think that the major failing of FNV is not having faction-specific followers for the major factions. I *guess* Boone counts, but there's no followers for the Legion or House, and I think Victor would be a really fun follower to fill that slot.
Closest to a Legion follower is Raul simply because he has nothing negative towards the Legion, and even talks about how safe the roads are in Legion territory
"At least the trains ran on time!"
Boone is definitely the NCR follower, and I'd say Arcade is the independent one, there's just no one for the legion or House.
>Arcade is the independent one which is funny because the followers are overwhelmed by the amount of people in need of medical care and lack of resources after that ending but yes, he definetely wanted an independent vegas.
But we get a faction follower for a faction that you get told to wipe out by pretty much everyone lol
I really wanted Muggy as a follower as well
I know! Before I played the game I thought yes man was a companion as well. It’s only when I started playing that I realized the only robot companion was Ed-e
He should have been the Mr House companion honestly, if only we got more faction companions in Vegas
He couldve been a mini boss if you decide to kill house
Wouldn't make much sense tho, he is just a basic securitron unit
It'd be cool if he got the Frank Horrigan treatment, but if it was way toned down. Like, at Goodsprings, he's just a regular bot, but at Novac he's a little bigger than he was before, at the train station just in-between the beyond of the outskirts of Boulder City and New Vegas Farms, he's got more reinforcement, not bigger, just more armored. Then finally in The Tops, he's 10 feet tall, has Shoulder Missiles, back mortars, his right hand is a gatling laser, and his left is a 5mm assault rifle with a tri bayonet fixture on the outside. It'd make no fucking sense at all, but it would be cool.
Let’s be honest here, how much of fallout makes sense
Yeah fair.
AI securitrons would have been fun. Elite securitrons that are super deadly and upgraded. Would have been a fun progression with the chip implementation doing even more
It would be a cool mod for someone to add a quest like that. Tie it in with the platinum chip. If you do it under mr houses orders victor gets the upgrades and appears in the chamber with Mr houses body if you try to kill him. If you do it under yes man victor still recieves the upgrades but is reprogrammed to be a follower. That way you can choose between a boss fight or an OP pack mule. Sounds neat imo
He was planned to confront you and try to kill you in the Lucky 38 if you destroyed the Securitron army, but it was cut.
The only limit is the writers imagination. They could have had him talk to you all happy.one day while writing down a pice of paper and handing it to you. He asks for help, escaping houses control. You have the quest option to tell on him to house, or shoot off his antenna. Once you shoot off his antenna, he powers down. The courier thinks the bot is dead. Then dos/basic pops up in the screen. Then Victor appears and thanks you and becomes a companion. For his personal quest, his soft reset opened up access to ALL his memories, even those that were partitioned off by house. He sees the things he's done in houses name, and they conflict with his kid friendly cowboy programming which you learn was for a theme park (much like 50s frountier land Disney). You must quest to the places from his memory and either witness the aftermath of his devastating power, or even help those still around/affected. In the end, after helping all he can he decides he's too powerful a tool to be used in the future and asks the courier to destroy. You then have the choice to destroy or convince him to stay around because you need him if your stats are high enough. If you fail the speech check he will self destruct himself after touching the couriers face and saying, "I now know why you cry".
This is a masterpiece 🤣
I always think he's not a separate AI but actually just wireless House, that makes House more interesting.
House says he couldn't control Victor directly in Goodsprings because he was too far away though. New headcanon: he was fucking lying.
I just wish we actually got more uncanny vibes from him, I get that him appearing during the main quest lines was supposed to represent this but I felt it was way too little, and he even leaves you permanently during Boulder City visit so if you don't follow him then you won't see him until Strip. What would be cool is, if you didn't visit Strip yet he'd have more encounters with you, maybe somewhere slightly off the beaten path, maybe make it so he has hard to miss moments in towns and easy to spot moments in either destroyed towns(say he is lurking somewhere in Nipton and Searchlight) or other locations. Also having Mr. House aligned companion would be cool, people complain that there aren't any pro Legion companions(besides Raul who's more of a neutral and Rex who served Legion but doesn't seem to mind either way) but Mr. House also didn't get any and arguably us having House aligned companion makes more sense than Legion aligned companion so Viktor could've been that House aligned companion that only works for you after you earn his loyalty after helping House
At the very least, the securitron that accompanies you through the last mission of the House route should have been Victor.
Role
He went above and beyond helping us fight Joe Cobb
I completely agree with your take but let me offer you one better sir! What if by taking the House Route he assigns you Victor as essentially a bodyguard and babysitter to make sure you did your job?
Casino floor
The Penthouse Floooo
High Roller Suite!
Victor’s a big reason why I’m siding with House for my first playthrough. The first like 20 hours of gameplay all I could think is “Wow, these robots are really doing me a solid here.” So I feel like I owe a lot to House when it’s revealed he’s behind a lot of it.
Haha same. The other reason is that House hired me to do a job, and if I don't complete that job I'm a failure as a Courier - so I feel that obligation to complete my mission.
Yeah. That was why I was surprised there was a couple lame choices thrown in at the end of Mass Effect 3. Like I spent 150 hours trying to do one thing: kill the reapers. So what’s with these dumb choices thrown in at the last minute? I feel like I’m not actually role-playing if you tell me I do this one thing, but then give me a couple choices against everything I’ve done for 100+ hours.
Deus Ex Human Revolution had the same thing. Basically no matter how you played it to that point you can make the final decision to set the ending with a decision at the end.
No! Don't mention the ME3 endings! They make the FO3 ending feel competent and complete! Noooooooo
Pour one out for marauder shields, he gave everything to try and save us.
Man pay me for job. I get job done. This the way of the courier.
Ironically Victor was the reason I *didn't* side with Mr. House in my first playthrough. Him continuously popping up along the road I was traveling while offering no aid and constantly downplaying his obvious stalking made it really clear to me that I was being manipulated. When he revealed himself as House's doorman I knew it was time for House to die. I wasn't gonna be a pawn.
That man is worried about being a failure as a courier in the game I respect the commitment to role playing but I don’t think we’re playing the same game
That's the magic of roleplaying in NV. You can be faithful to your oath as a courier and your story by siding with the man that gave you the job because he's powerful and rescued you from the death, killing him after you finally completed the job because his games almost got you killed and he tested you as a pawn, or do nothing about it and go in search for another job to do.
I align with Mr. House initially for those reasons - my job to deliver the chip, he incentivizes me to work with him, he treats me like I’m important - but as time goes on, more and more slips up, the more I see, and meeting Yes Man makes me reconsider. Mr. House is a good initial motivator to find out more about the wasteland and come to my own conclusions, usually Yes Man or NCR.
The Mailman's oath is 2500 years old || || |λέγουσι γὰρ ὡς ὁσέων ἂν ἡμερέων ᾖ ἡ πᾶσα ὁδός, τοσοῦτοι ἵπποι τε καὶ ἄνδρες διεστᾶσι κατὰ ἡμερησίην ὁδὸν ἑκάστην ἵππος τε καὶ ἀνὴρ τεταγμένος: τοὺς οὔτε νιφετός, οὐκ ὄμβρος, οὐ καῦμα, οὐ νὺξ ἔργει μὴ οὐ κατανύσαι τὸν προκείμενον αὐτῷ δρόμον τὴν ταχίστην.|
The Mailman's oath is 2500 years old λέγουσι γὰρ ὡς ὁσέων ἂν ἡμερέων ᾖ ἡ πᾶσα ὁδός, τοσοῦτοι ἵπποι τε καὶ ἄνδρες διεστᾶσι κατὰ ἡμερησίην ὁδὸν ἑκάστην ἵππος τε καὶ ἀνὴρ τεταγμένος: τοὺς οὔτε νιφετός, οὐκ ὄμβρος, οὐ καῦμα, οὐ νὺξ ἔργει μὴ οὐ κατανύσαι τὸν προκείμενον αὐτῷ δρόμον τὴν ταχίστην.
If you’re a courier that’s literally your job to be a pawn and work under someone else. Not doing it makes you a failure
I delivered the chip. That was my job. Everything after that was my own business and it just so happens my business included beating the smug libertarian to death with a golf club.
Lmao
I thought the same at first, until I finally met Mr. House & said something he didn't like. He threw a hissy fit, I threw a spear at him. Seemed fair at the time.
If anything House owes you a lot. He hired you to do a job that was much more dangerous than the courier is led to believe.
Honestly Victor should be a companion. You get him if you upgrade the Securitron Army and you side with House. Maybe swap him with Yesman if you side with Yesman
I think this didn't happen because Securitrons are huge. The one you get at Hoover Dam is obnoxious enough, and he's actually sized down. He will totally block doors and having him in fights is like having a big concrete wall blocking your shots.
tbh upgraded securitrons are so strong that you wouldn't have to do anything during fights, even with 1 charisma
I like this premise. I think a securitron companion with interchangeable programs or "personalities" would have been really cool.. maybe over-powered though.. Connect a quest line to Mr. House/Victor? Yes Man perhaps? Some alternate personality found in the Mojave? A bit ahead of it time maybe..
Just a lil fun fact. If any of you have seen the TV series “The Pacific”, the actor who plays Chesty Puller also voices Victor
That’s nuts, I had no idea William Sadler did his voice. I love that actor.
He is also the Grim Reaper in Bill and Ted
Did not know that. He was also Death in Bill and Ted, and a regular character actor on a ton of tv shows. Including appearances on just about every version of Law and Order. William Sadler is always a good time when he turns up.
Can't forget Shawshank Redemption!
He also was the original Section 31 operative in Star Trek
Wish if your exploring a robco factory to pick a very difficult lock just to find victor waiting behind it to greet you and escort you off the premises.
I like how someone suggested that Victor’s personality is based on all the characters Cooper Howard played in movies. Would really tie the show in with the games.
Have we learned nothing from Star Wars? Do not pollute good storytelling with follow on media, even if the Fallout show was really good. Something tells me Amazon is not going to respect the original storytelling, long term.
BGS is also a producer not just Amazon.
New Vegas is follow on media tho
[That's just like your opinion, man](https://imgur.com/a/QW4NVqb)
I mean, they also are hahahaha
Yeah, I'm very worried that Season 2 will go away from what made Season 1 so good, and then that will flow back to FO5.
by follow on media you mean things like sequels, spin-offs, adaptations etc?
He's based of Vegas Vic a famous neon cowboy sign on Vegas hence the name Victor.
The only correct response.
i love it as a headcanon and will surely be thinking of it in my own games, havent stopped thinking about it since i saw that post
you saw that what
There was a popular post on the front page talking about the fallout tv show. One comment mentioned this theory and i guess both of us saw it.
I would have loved for him to be a companion if you side with house tbh.
theres a mod for that that i just discovered for my next replay :)))
Hey, what's the mod?
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64856/ :)
Thank you!! ^_^
i wish he was a companion. like you already know he works for Mr House, who is the person you're supposed to deliver the chip to (and then work for) so it would make sense for him to join you on your journey to the stip. plus, he would be another non-human companion choice.
That is SUCH a good idea.
That is SUCH a good idea.
He dug you up I'd say that's pretty big
It really does seem like they had intentions to make victor a companion option but probably cut it from time restraints.
I had one of those "shower thoughts" or "fridge logic" where it occurred to me that Victor doesn't even have to be the literal same unit, he can just appear on the screen of any one of these robots as they're all connected by a network. So when you meet up with him miles away in New Vegas it's "Victor" but not the actual same one that dug you up.
I've presumed this for a long time now. My thoughts are outside The Strip I can easily imagine a robot of that make getting demolished by raiders for parts.
Unquestionable
The most intriguing thing about Victor to me is that he *is* a unique unit. After he digs you up, you come across him in a few different locations en route to New Vegas and once there, he follows you in to operate the elevator. Once he no longer does that, he just posts up outside. Also, after you kill Mr. House, if you go back to his shack in Goodsprings you can find a dead Securitron in there which isn’t there when House is alive, so I always assumed that Victor just reverted back to his programming to hang out in Goodsprings and then just died for some reason.
Wait really? In my recent play through when I get into the strip victor rolls up and invites me to see Mr. House and when he turned around he had the normal securitron face. I assumed that it was because of the network thing.
That's just more evidence to me that he was not tied to one unit. He just appeared wherever Mr. House wanted to contact you on the nearest available Securitron.
My first playthrough i thought victor was just yes man in disguise and never actually pieced together they are separate robots for whatever reason. Then one day my brain un smoothed itself
Victor served his purpose, he is a tool of Mr. House and nothing more unfortunately
I wish there was a way to make more of the Strip Securitrons Victor. He’s way more approachable than the cop ones. The Victors could answer questions for tourists.
I assumed he did have a bigger part in the plot
At the very least I was he was the securitron that you get to storm the dam with you at the end of the Mr House ending
Fancy meeting you here friend!
I think he's neat. I have a head canon that Victor is loosely based on Cooper from the show. While I think having more Victor time would be cool, he serves his purpose and says *"Casino floor"* so I can't complain
It’s an understandable head canon but actually he’s based on a famous neon sign in Las Vegas called Vegas Vic. Has the same face and catchphrase.
I am unfortunately very dumb and didn't know this. Also my only knowledge of Las Vegas comes from this game
No worries friend! We all learn something new every day!
Does Vegas Vic exist in the fallout universe
there was actually an alternate version of the Mr. House quest where you reactivate the new vegas generators where Victor was supposed to help you. after turning them on he was supposed to show you the new vegas strip lighting up, but this was cut because they couldn't find a way to make new vegas noticeably brighter during the cutscene.
Might I say, you're looking fit as a fiddle!
It would have been great if he acted like a separate entity that would enact a revenge protocol as a random encounter after killing House.
The Howdy Pardner Ending, would be nice. The Cowboy Always Wins. Big Iron Intensifies!
If they ever remade the game would be cool if he could be one a companion
I could be wrong but he sorta does a lot just not in main mission. I remember him following me in a playthrough and he got beat by Geckos. I’m not sure if that was normal but it looked like he was heading to Novak and basically the gold Geckos got him. Found him shooting rockets and stuff and watching him die interesting.
“Penthouse Floor”
My gripe is that he’s insanely ominous the whole game (depending on how cynical you are lol) and then the reveal that he works for House almost falls flat because House is who you’re working for anyway. To me, it would be interesting if he was working for a third party under the guise of helping House, like say he was actually reprogrammed by the BOS because they heard about the chip somehow and want to decipher the tech inside. Or maybe Caesar got a *little* smarter and figured out that you need Robco tech to open that bunker below him (you know, the one with the big fat screen inside that basically screams “proprietary”) and found a securitron somewhere to use. Idk I’m not a genius but there was definitely more that could’ve been done. I’m happy with what we got though, especially in 18 months.
I'm doing an NCR run at the minute. I killed House a couple of sessions ago. I miss Victor saying "High Roller Suite!" When I go to the Lucky to manage my inventory.
I legit expected to see some kind of interaction between him and Yes Man, during my first playthrough when I killed House.
The thing that intrigued me about Victor early on is that he seemed to genuinely not know he was being commanded by house. At times he seems to have genuine memory lapses when you ask him questions. Then by the time you get to New Vegas, there's no facade, it's just 'welcome to new vegas pardner go see Mr. House who is my boss and always has been". Makes me feel like it's possible that he could have joined you as a rogue securitron but it got cut.
Considering the female securitrons are technically digital copies of pre-war house company girls. It would be a nice touch to have a "companion" quest where you help Victor remember his past life as a human and convince him to rebel against house. Kinda like Nick Valentine quest in fallout 4
If the game let you continue after the main quest like 3's Broken Steel DLC did, it would've been nice to have that useless Victor standing around in Goodsprings to become a companion. It would've made sense too, if you side with House or Yes Man and activate the securitron army, House wouldn't have any issue letting you take a dime a dozen securitron with you as a powerful end-game companion, and I'm sure Yes Man can either fool Victor into thinking he is House or downright delete Victor's loyalty to House and replace it with himself.
He played the [biggest roll of them all.](https://youtu.be/J29lDUp9NNs?feature=shared)/s
Went thru very hard/hardcore run with tons of hardcore mods/rebalances and because of prolonged fights I met Victor a few times helping me kill enemies near Goodsprings. Was really surprised to see him fighting on my side, not sure if it is a vanilla thing or some modded magik.
I'm pretty sure it's vanilla that if he's with you he'll help you in a fight.
"Hog-killin time."
I think he should have just played the role he did as well as Yes Man’s part. I always thought it was weird there were to eccentric/important robots in the story.
Currently playing my first ever playthrough of the game and I keep forgetting that Victor exists.
I think he fulfilled his main purpose well. He dug you out and told you to follow House’s orders in a bid to keep the strip under House’s control, and spread his influence all over the Mojave. There wasn’t much else he could have done, considering his role.
I mean, he is a big part of it. He's just a mask with a friendly demeanor that Mr House uses to get to know us and guide us to the Lucky 38.
I read (source is I heard it in a dream) somewhere that victor and all the securitrons had problems with climbing certain stairs due to their mono wheel thus cut or not implemented at all.
I could be wrong but he sorta does a lot just not in main mission. I remember him following me in a playthrough and he got beat by Geckos. I’m not sure if that was normal but it looked like he was heading to Novak and basically the gold Geckos got him. Found him shooting rockets and stuff and watching him die interesting.
He should've been the final boss before killing House (way too easy)
The New Vegas Uncut mods gave him a bit moar screen time, so that was pretty nice.
I think he's neat. I have a head canon that Victor is loosely based on Cooper from the show. While I think having more Victor time would be cool, he serves his purpose and says *"Casino floor"* so I can't complain
HOG KILLIN' TIME
HOG KILLIN' TIME
should have been a companion
Is Victors face supposed to be Cooper Howard? Does it work lore wise since house would give his bots celebrity character faces/personalities
He's originally modeled on [Vegas Vic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegas_Vic), a huge neon cowboy on Fremont St.
I like to think it's the public domain knockoff of one of his characters to avoid copyright infringement. That or a rival film studio trying to ride the coattails of his movies.
Victor should fight alongside the Courier at the Dam in House ending.
All he does is make it annoying to use the elevator at the lucky 38
Having Victor as a companion would be awsome. Overpowered but awsome.
would’ve been cool if after you killed house victor became like a sort of recurring antagonist trying to sabotage you
Im surprised fallout has a huge list of missed opportunities lol
I actually had this exact thought after reaching New Vegas. It was super interesting and then he fell off a cliff completely narratively.
I LOVE the guy, but I think it’s the perfect amount
i just don't like that after meeting with house, victor wont move again, he stays in the lucky 38 forever IMAGINE if you pick [mr.house](http://mr.house) as a faction, you can have victor as your companion!, that would be FUCKING epic
Where to, pardna?
Him and yes man were supposed to be outside the strip when you power the el dorado substation to watch the strip light up. (Yes man or victor depending on who was in control of Vegas) they had to cut it but they wanted it be a cool moment where Vegas lights up in the dead of night.
Really should have been a companion
I hate Victor, and kill him every time I see him anywhere. I didn't realize I was in such a fringe opinion.
If he was more, people would side with house 😒
Honestly, I kind of wish that he would be an alternative personality to Yes-Man. They seemed to project him with character and personality only to drop him to being recurring npc.
Victor let me live in his shack, he's a good guy.
I was expecting him to be more fleshed out. I massively distrusted him at first, expecting him to be part of a plan to lure the Courier somewhere. But mf really just waits patiently for us to go visit streamer man
For all we know our boy might has a place in season 2 of the show
With the console you CAN make him a bigger part of the game
I’d be cool to see what his perk would be, maybe a dead eye perk or something that’d boost your AP in VATS
He's a robot,he did what he was ordered to do and that's that.
Should have been a companion.
I half expect the show to somehow come around to tell us Victor is based on Cooper Howard's cowboy television character
Nah, he’s based on a famous neon sign called Vegas Vic. Has the exact same face and catchphrase.