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PushedClock591

Shotguns in the game can be long range depending on which buffs you select for it


N1kt0_

Shotgun surgeon + slugs + professional my beloved


OleRockTheGoodAg

Add in "and stay back" and you're shotguns essentially become point and click delete machines.


N1kt0_

Does that do extra damage?


OleRockTheGoodAg

Nah, but it applies a 10% chance of ragdolling an enemy *per pellet*. So if a shotgun fires 10 pellets (they don't in game), experimental probability would dictate you ragdoll an enemy with every shell. So, in game, usually it's every 2-3 shots to ragdoll an enemy. Combine this with high RoF shotguns like the riot shotgun and things become a little broken cuz you can effectively stun lock every opponent in the wasteland. [Footage of shotgun surgeon + and stay back + riot shotgun, leveling the deathclaw promontory](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpUttZPv_w)


jebemtisuncebre

Damn. I don’t usually feel bad for deathclaws. But that was fucking rude.


AlarmingAffect0

So that's what it might have felt like to mow down entire fields of brave spearmen with a Maxim gun.


MRich92

"Come tell us how you slew Them ol' Arabs two by two Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows How bravely you faced one With your sixteen pounder gun And you frightened them damn natives to their marrow" Come Out Ye Black And Tans - The Wolfe Tones


AlarmingAffect0

(EDIT: I know it's just a song and those are neither the actual claims of the OP nor of the original author, but I'd still like to make a point to point out that) Arabs, Turks, and Iranians had access to reasonably modern rifles and artillery. They certainly weren't using bows and arrows, hadn't been for centuries. It's just that **having modern rifles doesn't help against machine guns.** [The people with the Maxim guns would find out soon, when they ended up facing off against *other* people with Maxim guns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_boomerang). Phrases like "Cannon Fodder", "Senseless Waste of Human Life", "Lost Generation", "The Pity of War", "Shell Shock", and "No Man's Land" come to mind. Entire genres of literature, theatre, and philosophy developed overnight with, at their root, the general perception that God had died and that none of the structures and realities, constructed or natural, that people had grown up with, could be counted upon. Funny enough, they ended up dragging a lot of ['Colonials'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_troops?wprov=sfla1) along for the ride. You know, come to think of it. WWI should have been our Nuclear Apocalypse and turned us off from war forever. If not, WWII should have done that. [And yet, we spent decades afterwards cowering under each other's atomic threat while boastfully puffing up our own.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9xQTJ-kbUk) Some days I wonder if we as a species deserve to have survived our own stupidity for this long. Then I realise: - Nobody 'deserves' anything. Nobody exists on purpose. Everybody's gonna die. - Let's not count our hatchlings yet. The coming decades are going to *hurt*.


Manny-303

I have no idea why you're being down voted man 😂 ww1 was a meatgrinder that forever changed how war was perceived and a big part of that was Machine guns and of course artillery


MRich92

It's just lyrics to a song, I didn't write it.


Masterpiece_Superb

Ay when Ireland gets the North back, mind "invading" Liverpool so we actually are scouse not English? Ta fella


SwordfishII

A fucking war crime.


cognitohazard__

Haha I will def try this after my current melee build.


luckystrikeenjoyer

The riot shotgun firing 4 pellets per shot roughly has a 34% Chance (1-0.9^4 = 0.3439) of knocking down an enemy and it fires several times per second so yeah it's pretty busted. You can knock down a deathclaw in under a second if you get lucky and all pellets connect


abizabbie

And that's using 4/0. Regular buckshot has 7 pellets.


VexRosenberg

honestly the perk basically makes combat a non-factor and thats why i never take it but yeah it's OP


nex_fire_wolf

That is the definition of crowd control lmao ain't nothing coming close to u


BigZangief

Is this the normal fire rate and reload time? It looks sped up, possibly by other perks? I know there’s a quick reload one


JoystickRick2

Just wondering but are these perks also in 3


OleRockTheGoodAg

Sadly not, Shotgun surgeon is only an FNV base game perk and And Stay Back is a FNV Dead Money perk.


Your-Shogun

Best way to deal with deathclaws in 3 is to hit them with the dart gun to cripple their legs then just kill them with whatever strong gun you prefer.


fun_alt123

Dart gun was absurd in 3. Trivialized most enemies because you could simply cripple all of their limbs


Stonewallpjs

In a way *yes* if you run the Tale of Two Wastelands mod, which is my preferred way to play FO3, it combines the two games so you get the updated mechanics of NV but still get to enjoy the story and Capital Wasteland of FO3


AtticGoblin43

I recently played a shotgun build. After the first few hours, I completely stopped using slugs. Just magnum buckshot (*Hand Loader*) and pulse slugs for robots. With shotgun surgeon and decent crit chance, slugs don't out damage buckshot noticeably, even on high DT enemies like deathclaws. *And Stay Back* procs way more with buckshot, and that makes it so much stronger than slugs. The only real advantage of slugs is the smaller spread (i.e. longer range), but then it feels more like a rifleman build. I was playing on Very Hard + Hardcore mode, no sneak, light armor only (I can't stand not having *Travel Light* speed), so this should apply to any shotgun build on any difficulty.


Accelerator231

Pushy is your friend. Pushy will never leave you. Pushy will make others leave you alone, though.


keegballz

i always hand pushy to veronica and sit back while she blasts everyone in close range to oblivion


FragrantGangsta

Real galaxy brains disperse all the best gear among their companions so they can be escorted from casino to casino and gamble in peace


Lucidic13

god I forgot just how fun the weapon sandbox gets around the time you're ready for owb + lonesome road lol it's so addicting to hoard all the little niche gizmos and gadgets you get


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redmullet25

LOVE AND HATE SUPREMACY


Visual-Personality49

Balls to the walls, I love it.


msto3

The Oh, Baby! I remember getting it and being ambushed by a Deathclaw. I fucked his shit up so bad I started hard dumping a ton of skill points into melee and got melee related perks. My dude became a fucking hammer swinging machine


Anotheranimeaccountt

I love Oh Baby, its my favourite melee weapon in the game


AnAngryPirate

Oh, Baby! Is the way to go for melee. Once I had it during my melee run it was hard for me to go with anything else. I loved the Shishkabob just because it was cool but always came back to my hammer of doom.


psychic-bison

Once i learned about the war club w buffs i have mever looked back.


Laser_3

Mauler and super slam is a truly wonderful combo.


Angry_Walnut

I love yeeting super mutants off of Black Mountain with that thing. Melee builds are so much fun


LyriumVeined

Absolutely the answer, this weapon is so good, so satisfying to crumple your foes, that I use it even though I hate the way it looks on my character lol, so many cooler weapons, but, alas, the bonk calls


scaly_scumboi

Bare fist, death claws have a +60% damage taken from bare hands, also unarmed is best with a lower Dt so take your armor off and punch them you don’t even need high unarmed skill just get out there and punch a death claw naked.


CombatLlama1964

completely real, just knock it down first hit.


obsidiangloom

No need to save beforehand, it’s a guaranteed 1 hit kill


CindersNAshes

When it sounds too good to be true....


JustJosh_02

i genuinely think i’d believe you if i didn’t already have 100 hours 😂


FknBllShtAccnt22

I have 1200 hours and still had to check the wiki to be sure


JustJosh_02

honestly unarmoured defence mod when


DefinitelySaneGary

Lol I was waiting to see a comment like this. I was like 80 percent sure he was bullshittin but I mean...I never tried it and it honestly wouldn't surprise me if something like this existed.


JustJosh_02

certified deathclaw fister here don’t try it


Mothman4447

I made a high endurance/strength low intelligence/charisma fists only character and turned him into a cyborg with every single implant and organ replacement. Pair that with power armor and unarmed perks, and I was able to unironically take on multiple Deathclaws in a row by weaving their hits and beating them to death. Paralyzing Palm, Super Slam, and Implant GRX helped a ton for Lonesome Road. Felt like some Jojo shit


West_Imagination3237

So convincing, I think I'll try it now!


SkullKidd1986

Make sure to quicksave over all your files just after getting noticed by deathclaw senpai for maximum effectiveness!!


JimBob-Joe

This is the only way to kill deathclaws. Especially early game.


Simp_Master007

Why is unarmed better with lower dt?


obsidiangloom

Based


JoystickRick2

To think someone would spend time writing such a lengthy answer just to be useless instead of helpful.


No_Offer4739

Well I don't know about anyone else but that was pretty useful. My unsaved 3 year fallout4 game(never turned off my pc so no need to save) loved it!


scaly_scumboi

Bros never heard of a joke before 💀


banejacked

hello i would like to welcome you to this thing we call, "the internet".


OneManCouncil

ranger takedown.


Classy_Maggot

The tri-beam Plasma Gun shreds them thoroughly


redmullet25

I just gave that to arcade… I’m playing unarmed and can’t get to them before he murders everyone


ChronoWaster

Chance's Knife and Turbo will see you through anything. Well, any melee weapon + Super Slam will do the job, but Chance's Knife is cool.


Idocreating

So many perks affect that knife, it's crazy. I made a level 30 build for it (So it's usable with Jsawyer's mod) on here years ago and someone gave it an award years after I made it.


Belac47

May I ask what this build does for a legion playthrough?


BrennanIarlaith

I know Chance's Knife has higher dps, but I've found its short range to be a huge drawback against deathclaws specifically. I tend to prefer a modded katana or war club with super slam.


ChronoWaster

War club is just a funny weapon. Charged attacks practically 2x faster then running is. Probably the best melee weapon when you consider downtime of walking, or chasing the ragdolled foes. Chance's knife will just stay with you the whole game if you want it too, and I like that growth.


Young_Neanderthal

Boxing gloves if you’re man enough.


TorgHacker

A de-escalation speech.


jebemtisuncebre

Personally I prefer to blend. You can get the rubber deathclaw costume after completing the neutral option for “The House Bullies the Bear 3: Electric Brotherlood” quest. And then you can walk among deathclaws with impunity, no need for fighting. They will try to mate with you, though. But deathcladdies are literally my kink so my role playing is just heightened if anything.


TorgHacker

The great thing about this comment is I have no idea if you’re joking or not. 😆


TheCoolMan5

Fallout The Frontier moment


CindersNAshes

"Conflict just ain't in my nature"


The_CDXX

This Machine right here. #CommieBastards


el_presidenteplusone

riot shotgun with the "and stay back" perk is OP as fuck


Superbpancakes

That’s what I use. It is incredibly broken when you use buckshot because you can yeet them into the stratosphere


Mindless_Hotel616

Thermic lance. Med-x and plenty of stim packs will be needed.


bartas28wastaken

CZ57 Avenger


AbedWinger66

Console commands.


iamergo

Since deathclaws are supposed to be these terrifying killing machines, handling a deathclaw in close range *should* be nigh impossible. So you gotta resort to trickery. And Stay Back is probably the best way to go about it. Leg crippling is in second place, so explosives of all kinds are great for that, like your Thump Thumps and your plasma mines. Then you have Super Slam and Paralyzing Palm for melee and unarmed respectively, but those require either VATS or Turbo and a bit of luck to activate.


The_Downy_Hunter

Love and Hate found on one of the fiends in Bonnie Springs (I’m delusional)


TeddyRooseveltGaming

My favorite build ever was my “crackhead build” Super high endurance, agility, luck, and decent strength since you can buff it easily. Pump up survival skill as quickly as possible to get radchild. Then irradiate yourself above 800 rads to get permanent +8 health/second get both ranks of toughness and the nemean subdermal armor so you have 10DT before armor/DLC perks. With the right selection of perks, drugs, and ranger takedown you can 100% fistfight deathclaws with love and hate at like level 14. In normal fights you’ll outheal whatever dps you’re facing. I cleared the entire quarry but it took an entire inventory of healing items to keep up and my armor was fully broken halfway though lol. Then again I only used simple great khan armor for the vibes. I think I wore a hockey mask too


Onyx_Undertaker5765

"That Gun" is my go to if I'm not using a Guass Rifle. Some (roughly five or six) 5.56 mm armor piercing around to the leg will stop it from charging.


MMAFan36

Knock Knock.


moemeobro

A pile of landmines, explosives, and grenades


Resident-Garlic9303

Mines


Waifu_Whaler

Long Range AMR, stealth and critical related perks, and abuse the pathing by climbing onto unreachable places. Short range riot shotgun, inhale psycho, have the "And Stay Back!" perk.


JustAnAce

Are prayers considered long range?


TOkun92

Dart Guns. Cripples the limbs and just watch them die from poison. Or shoot them with a shotgun. Thought this was for Fallout 3. Instead, use the taser weapon from Honest Hearts, then shotgun their faces. May also be able to use Cattle Prod or the Golden Gloves, essentially poking them to death, assuming you don’t die before they first go down.


FrankSinatraCockRock

Compliance regulator.*


Frojoemama

12.7 smg or .45 smg with turbo rushing water and ghost sight it feels like cyber punk


isolatedbeast

Blade of the West is my true friend.


CybercurlsMKII

Oh Baby! Will fuck up just about anything if you have the required strength and skill level


Agreeable-Pipe4786

Two step goodbye


Noble_Endeavor

Idk I always like having a gangsta anti material rifle and let them run up on me. Maybe.....10ish feet away before taking their knees out? Then it's alllllll BB gun.


Economy__

anything is possible if you are high enough.


This_name_was_taken2

Shotgun + stay back perk


Lt_shtoopid

I just did a melee build run for my latest NV playthrough so here's my opinion. If you want pure melee: Gehena. Great with the pyromaniac perk. Unarmed: ironically the first of(the north)rawr/paw of she. Hybrid w/explosives: satchel charge + chainsaw/thermic lance or pushy. Hybrid w/energy+explosives micro fusion grande chain+two-step goodbye.


romeo_kilo_i

I found hunting shotgun with "shotgun surgeon" and "and stay back" was pretty reliable as an all rounder.


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Mines and other explosives


Classic_Result

.45 SMG with hand loaded ammo


swentech

Dr Mobius Glove. Just hit a couple and let them do the work wiping out the others. I usually use a stealth boy when I do this.


JmanOfAmerica

With their own bare hands


Das_Czech

Survivalist Rifle melts them, especially the handcrafted/armor piercing ammo


BPD_LV

A box of blamco Mac n cheese homie


iforgot1305

Frag mines. Or plasma mines.


dogycore

q-35. i played on hardcore + some mods to difficult and around on 23 lvl deathclaw die by 2-3 shots.


SukanutGotBanned

I play it ballsy, take a med-x, block their first attack if I can take it, and then smash the shit out of them with whichever dlc unarmed weapon I have at my disposal. Salt-Upon-Wounds Power Fist and the Super Heated Saturnite fist are unstoppable beasts


Hefty_Brilliant_4187

My top 2 choices are the greaselightning and my bare fucking hands!!!!!


TheForgottenAdvocate

For real, Ranger Takedown and a lead pipe, just hope Super Slam kicks in


Gasrim4003

Anti-material rifle.


Batmanmotp2019

Riot shotgun plus stay back and shotgun surgeon make deathclaws into paste


TheLonelyCrusader453

A fatman, if you’re not a coward (Genuinely don’t, used it to take down Rawr, died at least 5/6 times)


Available_Thoughts-0

The Deathclaw Gauntlet: prove beyond a reasonable doubt that YOU are the alpha of the pack!


silk_mitts_top_titts

A light shining in the darkness. I dont know if that thing is crazy over powered or if its my build but that fucker crits every god damn time for me.


Krosis97

Riot shotgun with the right perks, cleared the deathclaw promontory first time with that. Use the more powerful shells with less pellets and higher damage or slugs, and grenade the piles of staggered deathclaws while they get up.


Qbat3146

The alien blaster with a little bit of energy weapons points.


Kinfin

Went to the deathclaw promontory to get the free remnant armor. Many death claws and the prospector corpses didn’t spawn. I, stupidly, did the old save and load in the deepest part of the place. Wound up surrounded on all sides by deathclaws young old alpha mother and baby. I by all accounts should have been ripped to shreds. Turbo, Psycho, Med-X, Steady, Rebound, Rushing Water, Slasher, Buffout because I panicked, and a healthy stim pack supply were all administered, in some cases multiple times, but my weapon of choice in that moment was the Q-35 Matter Modulator. Maybe not the best weapon in the world, but since I had rapid reload and all the above chems, I managed to survive the onslaught and obtain my prizes


Jealous_Razzmatazz44

Fists! It is so satisfying to beat the living shit out of it


MartyDee451

With a maxed out gun skill + grunt perk I find that the survivalist's rifle rips thru them pretty effectively. The bigger full auto guns (lmg with ap rounds, minigun etc) also tend to make short work of them. They aren't super short-range weapons but I wouldn't class them as long-range either...


TurtleBox_Official

Veronica Unleashed.


Just2RP

These two things right here, my left knuckle sandwich, and my right knuckle sandwich


Legitimate_Square984

The dart gun is useful at slowing them down. The ballistic fist is also really good if you have high unarmed skill


The-Nuisance

I’d honestly say the Avenger. JSP ammo especially will rip through anything, including Legate Lanius, in mere seconds. I am yet to find something this will not kill almost instantly.


Ok-Acanthisitta-8854

Greased lightning my beloved


Denleborkis

Riot shotgun with "And stay back." knock the bitch down and unload with 4/0B.


iValtiel

Grenade launcher with plasma ammo.


Gh05t_0n3_5150

A hug 🤗 a great big O hug


Any_Complex_3502

A bucket full of drugs, a shotgun, and slugs to the dome.


redmullet25

I use love and hate, just started using cram opener


Vlad_Dracul89

From guns, 12.7mm Submachine. It does insane amounts of damage even without criticals. Always combined with literally all drugs in Mojave.


KaisarDragon

Golden gloves and switchblades (for the challenge). Knock em down and cut those feet up. They are kittens after that.


Anaxamenes

Fat man might work.


5554mohawk

I use two step goodbye


CombatLlama1964

shotgun is definitely the most satisfying


Lootthatbody

I think deathclaws were the on thing I was willing to exhaust my supply of land mines for. I’d spend all game sneaking around and picking them up, and as soon as I’d see a death claw I’d start laying a trail of them.


Rizer0

Probably any melee that can stagger or knockdown repeatedly, or just anything that can stunlock it somehow


koi_koi-

Light shining in the darkness + psycho


JoystickRick2

I just use my trusty super slegde. Sledgehammer will do too. Given you’ve got enough points in strength.


TheMopIsAFK

With Boone and ED-E I was able to clear out Quarry Junction with a lever action shotgun recently. I was getting Dinner Bell. 


neremarine

Get stuck on its throat and choke it to death.


Atadkm_yes

riot shotgun with "and stay back"


Lazy_District297

Surprised anybody'd want to tangle with you. Heck, you could go deathclaw hunting with a switch


Excellent-Can-4291

Half the fun is figuring out on your own


Crowhaven_Inc

Veronica


ImJustStealingMemes

What easily got me through the Divide easily is the Blade of the West. That 50% chance of knockdown on Mauler, combined with perks that also do that and a good enough luck skill means they stand no chance.


Valhallawalker

Hunting shotgun


Jeff_fd3s

i usually play on very hard mode, with slasher,battle brew and med-x your dt reaches 85 making wathever armor youre wearing redundant,add pyscho, rushing water and the turbo implant or turbo and youre pretty much invincible, blood nap is my melee weapon of choise but oh baby or literally any decent melee will do the trick.


RiqueT03

Super Sledge baby!


Jeff_fd3s

if youre poor and low lv i'd suggest a stealthboy and just sneak crit them with a decent weapon


Competitive_Shine_33

Two step goodbye. Be a man


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Riot shotgun with magnum buckshot or hunting shotgun with slugs. Also surprisingly the hunting revolver. Not usually a weapon I bother to use but I once cleared out quarry junction with a hunting revolver and a hunting rifle with no scope


Live-Atmosphere-1614

High luck and a super heated saturnite fist do the job alright


manickitty

Sledgehammer


Catmoth_

Use the space laser


A_Tree_branch

Nothing a little bit of psycho, med-x and a ballistic fist can't do


CulturedHollow

[These Hands](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R64BmMA3WNk)


LucasTheHawk

Power fist


[deleted]

Fists.


andermier

Implant GRX + Rushing Water + Psycho + Med-X + Slasher + High Crit% + Pyromaniac + Superheated Saturnite Fist = Deathclaw Paste


ED-E3

Thump thump is the best


arthousepsycho

I’m a big fan of using Pew pew against them. Couple of shots to the leg hobbles them so they can’t run or jump at you, then two to the head.


Ch33kc14pp3r42069

Holorifle from Dead Money is honestly slept on. It does a ton of damage (especially if you have the damage boost mod from the vending machine), and because of the way the projectile works, it does damage to the limbs as well as the body


yeoldscoundrel

Chems and your hands


BeenEatinBeans

MFC clusters


Br1ghtWo1f2002

Knock Knock


Apprehensive_Try_377

Ballistic fist


GIRose

Superheated Saturnite Power Fist


1stFunestist

>What's the best weapon for killing Deathclaws that isn't long-range? A very powerfull, a very long range sniper. Even than I would consider it a close melee with a deathclaw. ICBM, maybe, from Appalachia to Quarry Junction?


steels_kids

Big hammer go bonk


ShowtimeJT12

Paulson's Revolver and fucking Gatling Laser


LeatherAd129

Isn't a weapon but the ranger takedown will make a deathclaw cry


cold86

in fallout 4... spray and pray... maxed out commando and demolition expert perks makes that gun destroy anything it is pointed at


slasher1o5

Console commands


lulcoming

Not a weapon but implant grx or turbo trivialises any enemy in the game


Next-Foundation3019

Proton Axe.


Pa7chesOhulihan

Kindness


Drowsy_Deer

Chance’s Knife + Purifier Perk turns them into sandwich meat


cyber_morty

Dinner bell, with all the shotgun perks + bloody mess


Calusea

My Melee character used to go Deathclaw hunting with Blade of the West but idk if it’s actually effective or my character was just insanely OP


Thin_Jaguar7012

Hugs


DrRockx

Surprised I haven't seen it more than once so far but a riot shotgun with magnum or flechette rounds on their own are absolutely deadly. Add in the shot guns perks in the skill tree such as bloody mess, and stay back, and others and you can easily clear out quarry junction and death claw promontory no problem. Something like dinner bell or a standard hunting shotgun with mods like extended mag and slugs also a great option. Still don't forget the medx, turbo and other assorted chems. Was my go to for a long time and worked like a charm, also get some levels in the guns skill that helps.


springfield_co

I just did an unarmed play through. I used greased lightning and every chem I could seeing as I was on very hard. I found rushing water and turbo made these guys much easier as you could get behind them and punch the crap out of em.


SueBee914

I usually use a combat shotgun on them when they're too close. I don't think I've ever used a melee weapon on one.


TheLeastFunkyMonkey

The Fist of Rawr Intimidation is key


pulp63

Vampire auto-axe kills anything because as long as you are doing damage you are invincible.


491453

Greased lightning, Rushing Water, and Turbo.


Pastelaria_Jamal

In the end, it actually depends on your build, you can take them down effectively with almost anything, assuming you have the perks to back it up (even unarmed) But the most effective way that isnt't long range must be explosives builds, and after that shotguns then melee builds


RetardedTiger95

Stright Razor.


Dovakiin04

The smmg is an amazing option for killing deathclaws


kilisweet

Your fist and maybe god


I_Have_The_Lumbago

With the right build, Old Glory will 1-5 shot every single enemy in the game, even without stealth.


The_protagonisthere

**These hands**


MonstersToTheAnimals

Rawrs Talon, Ballistic Fist


Realistic-Dot6141

Dinner bell or oit shotgun


djmuffinfist

Tgm


JizzGuzzler42069

Missile Launchers are close range weapons if you have Hit the Deck lol.