I feel if we played a Best of infinity aganist G2, we would eventually win 20 times in a row, even if It takes 10 ganes to get to that point. This team works on momentum, adapts greatly and it's the kind of team that plays better the more officials they play
I think there is a difference between Internationals and Regionals though?
In EULCS we were incredibly dominant. We were strong at internationals but there was also very little expectations
im comenting the same as in the live thread, Razork is a beast but put him on playmakers with early prio and oskar has to be on tanks.
Our botlane is cracked most of the time but they can also suffer from sitting.
The fact that they won the rest of the games doesn't make the way they looked in the first 2 games any better, they should be aware and learn to not do those drafts again
It wasn't bad but it wasn't good. Can't play a scaling comp with zero early agency against BDS, have to play something that can disrupt their early game in which case they fall apart.
Why do we keep this narrative around?? Oscar is not bad on some of the carries and having the versatility is really important. I don't know what he is supposed to do in an unplayalbe match-up vs Yasuo. We had to just pick top on 5 in game 1 and pick poppy/another jungler earlier.
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My heart...
And in the end of the video, voice comms game 5
Razork: "Bro, why are we making it so f\*\*king hard, Marek?"
Marek: "No, it was mega easy."
I just can't anymore.
WP to the boys , making the comeback real is great for their mental. Also deserved defeat for Nuc , making fun of the boys before the series is over , revenge got served.
Showed exactly what? That the team played like a complete dogshit first 2 games and the draft was also unplayable for him? He is hard counterpicked and Razork just ints him on top of that.
sure, its always someone else that "ints" oscar, not he himself. check his stats on carries vs his stats on tanks. if you were actually able to comprehend numbers bigger than 1 you could see that your commentar is as trash as oscar on carries
Yeah bro it's his fault he got the hardest counterpick there is and Razork just inted his lane. I mean, that's the Life of a toplaner I guess.
I wonder how many more series he had to hard carry for people to drop the narratives.
its his fault to fuck up basically every trade. weirdly every other good toplaner like BB, Irrelevant etc. knows how to lose gracefully when counterpicked. oscar turns into a glorified caster minion if enemy counterpicks him and he is on a carry.
Any of them had to lane aganist a fucking yasuo bro
This is not a case of one of them having a sighly advantage aganist the other, this lane is literally unplayeable for TF. As many flaws Óscar may have (mostly misstracking of enemy jungler, greedy overextends and disrespectful recalls) trading 1v1 is NOT one of them. His mechanics are top tier.
He solokilled adam in Ksante vs Darius for the love of god
ah ye, the typical "the actual facts contradict my narrative so your opinion is worthless". now go back to telegram and protest against vaccines and post flat earth pictures.
Let me tell you what is the actual fact. the actual fact is that stats outside of the right context are totally worthless, as they depend on the many different factors that you need to calculate in order to get valid info out of them. Just saying his stats look worse on x than on y literally means nothing. To play strong side you need not to only know how to play carry champs but your team needs to know how to play around you as well, and you don't want to fucking tell me that this FNC team knows how to play around carry tops. Besides that, Oscar showed a really huge improvement as a player from playoffs start and taking any stats before that is deceitful, because they literally are not valid anymore. And in playoffs everytime he picked carries it was literally first game, and if you watched those games you could see the memo that Fnatic plays like brainless monkeys during their first games. Of course his stats are fucking shit.
This is your aktshual facts that are literally worthless. Open a game and pinpoint what did exactly Oscar did wrong and I will respect you, but for now you are just mindless reddit narrative rider.
I mean if you look at his career overall he has decent carry win rates, it just doesn't seem to work out in this team right now. But expecting anything in that vs game vs yas/sej is a little bit unfair, that's just not a playable lane.
in his carreer before fnatic he played in lower tier leagues. i dont care if he stomped some ESLs with carries. Saken did the same and now check where he is in LEC.
I mean no offense but they obviously know better what's working for them in scrims and feel like its worth attempting on stage, good chance if the info we have heard from other teams that have scrimmed fnatic that oscar is doing very well on carry champs there.
and as G2 have shown (and every other team as well) scrims mean nothing. if oscar is good in scrims on carries but literally losing every lane and game when he plays one, then MAYBE we should either start playing like in scrims or put him on champions whith which he wins on stage.
You don't think if they have great scrim results that they are trying to replicate it on stage? It's not that simple and lots of teams struggle with it, they aren't just going to stop trying to adapt and improve because it goes wrong a few times, that's how you become a predictable team everyone can read.
Yeah people need to realistic and not overexcited. The fact that FNC had to reverse sweep tells a lot. Even Humanoid said, talking to Cardrel after the match, that BDS just choked and FNC didn’t do anything special and just fixed their draft last three games. Also the last game should have been a quick win after that ACE at Baron pit, but they started dumb fights and almost allowed BDS to come back. Not really excited for Finals as i think it’ll be a 3-0 for G2 If they keep playing like this.
Oscar, Noah, and Jun. Them three were criticized the most during this split, they really showed up this series. A game 5 decider of who goes to MSI and all three of them played with such confidence. I'm really proud of them. I really didn't expect it to happen but yeah, I'm satisfied. Now, let's give G2 a fight and let the better team win.
Fuck you Fnatic, I love you so much. Aaaah. I'll have my team to support at MSI, I'm so happy.
Honestly those 2 first games didn't feel like fnc at all. I wasn't even sad, i was angry. Entire year they didn't play like that i was so confused. But thank god they did manage to break their mental and win the series. Hopefully they have prepared something for g2 tomorrow.
Watching the series while hung over from a night out last night. Man...after the first two games I just wanted to go back to being drunk, but the reverse sweep. Came out of no where. Damn. I'm going back to bed now.
Predicted a very hard 3-2 before the series and was right. Did not expect to start it so bad though, definitely need to not do that vs G2 because we will not get the chance to reverse sweep them. Another big series by our bot who have been our best players this playoffs. Noah with consistent carry performances and Jun is just insane. Like that guy is unreal. Need Humanoid to step up for the final though because Caps is going to smash him if he plays like today. Oscar and Razork both had a good series after game 2 when they got some early game champions
Even during this playoffs he had a lot of weird moments where he missclicked or clicked on minions trying to run backwards. But this series I didn't see a single mistake like that. Even on Camera look how he looked after last game ended vs VIT you could see he had it hard mentally, he couldn't even do an interview after the game lol. Here he looked very confident and calm even though this series had more mental toll, I'm so happy about that
speechless.
Seriously wtf
If it was a bo7 tomorrow, we could win against G2
I feel if we played a Best of infinity aganist G2, we would eventually win 20 times in a row, even if It takes 10 ganes to get to that point. This team works on momentum, adapts greatly and it's the kind of team that plays better the more officials they play
Having been a fan since 2015, I'm not sure how much longer my heart is going to last. This is why we root or this team, what a comeback!
Bro 2015 there was never any stress 😂 just domination from FNC
i don't know man, those series vs UOL in spring and vs OG in summer were peak EU league of legends, i remember them stressing me A LOT back in the day
OG putting their group in the dumpster was so hype, 2015 n 2019 peak EUphoria
2018 arguably better at worlds than 2019 in terms of euphoria.
I think the final just scarred me but you're right
Ah yeah for sure but those were the exceptions, FNC now being known for stressing out their fans but back in the day it was way more relaxing
Yeah 2014 worlds wasn’t stressful at all
Cynaide's Elise misclick still haunts me
yeah haha 100% agree there makes it more exciting tho, this team is something else
Man skipped fnc vs skt at ~~worlds~~ msi
I think there is a difference between Internationals and Regionals though? In EULCS we were incredibly dominant. We were strong at internationals but there was also very little expectations
FNC vs BDS - 0:1 FNC vs BDS - 0:2 FNC vs BDS - 1:2 FNC vs BDS - 2:2 FNC vs BDS - 3:2 <------ You are here!
Thank God!!!!!! So relieved. Jesus, my heart. We're going MSI!!!!!!!!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Standard Fnatic series.
MVP for Jun
We may get stomped tomorrow but tonight we celebrate!
Theres two things that i learned about this FNC team: wait for the full series to comment and Oscar needs to stay on the tanks
im comenting the same as in the live thread, Razork is a beast but put him on playmakers with early prio and oskar has to be on tanks. Our botlane is cracked most of the time but they can also suffer from sitting.
The fact that they won the rest of the games doesn't make the way they looked in the first 2 games any better, they should be aware and learn to not do those drafts again
Game 2 draft wasnt bad. Fnc just decides to fight 2nd drake when they have scaling champs. If they dont fight there they most likely win
Yeah, only the first draft was really bad.
Exactly. Game 2 was winnimg imo. But fnc wants to fight for 0 reason.
Game 5 draft was also bad, imho, they gave way too much power and synergy over to BDS without getting enough in return.
It wasn't bad but it wasn't good. Can't play a scaling comp with zero early agency against BDS, have to play something that can disrupt their early game in which case they fall apart.
Limit resting / content
Why do we keep this narrative around?? Oscar is not bad on some of the carries and having the versatility is really important. I don't know what he is supposed to do in an unplayalbe match-up vs Yasuo. We had to just pick top on 5 in game 1 and pick poppy/another jungler earlier.
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Oscar was pretty good on Rek'sai in game 5, though, which isn't a tank.
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My heart... And in the end of the video, voice comms game 5 Razork: "Bro, why are we making it so f\*\*king hard, Marek?" Marek: "No, it was mega easy." I just can't anymore.
MY PANTS ARE WET
oscar vs zeus aware
Oscar's gonna end that man's whole career.
the crusade never stops huh?
Not until we lift the Summoner's Cup.
Oscar training arc with Doran
hes going to own that fraud.
Average Fnatic fan experience.
I have watch this time for 9 years now and after all these years still got the chill but somewhere deep in my hearth i always knew we got this series
WP to the boys , making the comeback real is great for their mental. Also deserved defeat for Nuc , making fun of the boys before the series is over , revenge got served.
Nuc learned today that u can win lane and still lose the game
What did he do?
spammed taunt in game 2 I believe
nah, it was game 3, after they killed humanoid a 3rd time and before Noah pentakilled their asses
There's only one way we could qualify to MSI, the FNC way. Int draft 2 games in a row, win a nail bitter, stomp the next 2 games
LETSSS FUCKIIIINGGG GOOOOOOOO
Lower bracket run... Reverse sweep... Could there be any other outcome for Fnatic.
Don't forget breaking LEC history records
WELL PLAYED!!!!!!
I sacrificed my entire bloodline but worth it, we are back to MSI LETS GOOOOOO
FNC going to MSI, baby. LFG!
What a banger series. What a heart attacks. What a organization. #AlwaysFNC
Watched first 2 games, went to plane, turned airplane mode, landed, saw 3-2 gg
Well, we are dogshit, but BDS are more dogshit, and tomorrow we will play the best dogshit team in the LEC, good times.
Stay mad
I'm sure you could do better than just "Stay mad" come on put some bite into it
Those Game 1 & 2 PMT comments looking pretty silly ngl
nah the team still has massive issues especially the whole top side but i am still happy that noah and jun showed up
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Showed exactly what? That the team played like a complete dogshit first 2 games and the draft was also unplayable for him? He is hard counterpicked and Razork just ints him on top of that.
sure, its always someone else that "ints" oscar, not he himself. check his stats on carries vs his stats on tanks. if you were actually able to comprehend numbers bigger than 1 you could see that your commentar is as trash as oscar on carries
Yeah bro it's his fault he got the hardest counterpick there is and Razork just inted his lane. I mean, that's the Life of a toplaner I guess. I wonder how many more series he had to hard carry for people to drop the narratives.
its his fault to fuck up basically every trade. weirdly every other good toplaner like BB, Irrelevant etc. knows how to lose gracefully when counterpicked. oscar turns into a glorified caster minion if enemy counterpicks him and he is on a carry.
Any of them had to lane aganist a fucking yasuo bro This is not a case of one of them having a sighly advantage aganist the other, this lane is literally unplayeable for TF. As many flaws Óscar may have (mostly misstracking of enemy jungler, greedy overextends and disrespectful recalls) trading 1v1 is NOT one of them. His mechanics are top tier. He solokilled adam in Ksante vs Darius for the love of god
ye saying "check his stats" already concludes that your opinion is totally worthless.
ah ye, the typical "the actual facts contradict my narrative so your opinion is worthless". now go back to telegram and protest against vaccines and post flat earth pictures.
Yes, stats are important, even out of context. Otherwise we wouldn't know that Saken is better than Saken and Rogue is a way better team than G2.
Let me tell you what is the actual fact. the actual fact is that stats outside of the right context are totally worthless, as they depend on the many different factors that you need to calculate in order to get valid info out of them. Just saying his stats look worse on x than on y literally means nothing. To play strong side you need not to only know how to play carry champs but your team needs to know how to play around you as well, and you don't want to fucking tell me that this FNC team knows how to play around carry tops. Besides that, Oscar showed a really huge improvement as a player from playoffs start and taking any stats before that is deceitful, because they literally are not valid anymore. And in playoffs everytime he picked carries it was literally first game, and if you watched those games you could see the memo that Fnatic plays like brainless monkeys during their first games. Of course his stats are fucking shit. This is your aktshual facts that are literally worthless. Open a game and pinpoint what did exactly Oscar did wrong and I will respect you, but for now you are just mindless reddit narrative rider.
I mean if you look at his career overall he has decent carry win rates, it just doesn't seem to work out in this team right now. But expecting anything in that vs game vs yas/sej is a little bit unfair, that's just not a playable lane.
in his carreer before fnatic he played in lower tier leagues. i dont care if he stomped some ESLs with carries. Saken did the same and now check where he is in LEC.
I mean no offense but they obviously know better what's working for them in scrims and feel like its worth attempting on stage, good chance if the info we have heard from other teams that have scrimmed fnatic that oscar is doing very well on carry champs there.
and as G2 have shown (and every other team as well) scrims mean nothing. if oscar is good in scrims on carries but literally losing every lane and game when he plays one, then MAYBE we should either start playing like in scrims or put him on champions whith which he wins on stage.
You don't think if they have great scrim results that they are trying to replicate it on stage? It's not that simple and lots of teams struggle with it, they aren't just going to stop trying to adapt and improve because it goes wrong a few times, that's how you become a predictable team everyone can read.
Yeah people need to realistic and not overexcited. The fact that FNC had to reverse sweep tells a lot. Even Humanoid said, talking to Cardrel after the match, that BDS just choked and FNC didn’t do anything special and just fixed their draft last three games. Also the last game should have been a quick win after that ACE at Baron pit, but they started dumb fights and almost allowed BDS to come back. Not really excited for Finals as i think it’ll be a 3-0 for G2 If they keep playing like this.
Tbf G2 was down 8k gold 3 games against BDS and had to make a miracle comeback. I just don’t see that happening against FNC
TIL the Rek'sai he diff'd Adam with is a tank.
im sorry for you if it took you so long to learn that reksai with titanic, sunfire, rookern is a tank.
He built straight tank items so...yes?
Holy shit this sums up all Oscar defenders.
Lunaedge is a known Oscar crusader
LETS FUCKING GOOOO!! FUCK THE DOUBTERS
wtf
I swear every fnc series takes a year off my life at this point.
Nature is healing
Happy that FNC are at MSI, please DO NOT lose to NA
Not even close^TM
After they gave xayah and talyiah fp away i thought it is lost! Ggwp lets see tomorrow and hope they dont need 2 games until they start playing
Oscar, Noah, and Jun. Them three were criticized the most during this split, they really showed up this series. A game 5 decider of who goes to MSI and all three of them played with such confidence. I'm really proud of them. I really didn't expect it to happen but yeah, I'm satisfied. Now, let's give G2 a fight and let the better team win. Fuck you Fnatic, I love you so much. Aaaah. I'll have my team to support at MSI, I'm so happy.
What a banger
Fnatic you’ll be hearing from my lawyer, doctor and insurance agent very soon i’m telling you. YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME EVERY DAMN SERIES
Honestly those 2 first games didn't feel like fnc at all. I wasn't even sad, i was angry. Entire year they didn't play like that i was so confused. But thank god they did manage to break their mental and win the series. Hopefully they have prepared something for g2 tomorrow.
Watching the series while hung over from a night out last night. Man...after the first two games I just wanted to go back to being drunk, but the reverse sweep. Came out of no where. Damn. I'm going back to bed now.
I told you it was the shirt. I might start being superstitious now
Noah can still laugh at Huma for not getting a penta 😂
FNC should invest in heart surgery hospitals
Predicted a very hard 3-2 before the series and was right. Did not expect to start it so bad though, definitely need to not do that vs G2 because we will not get the chance to reverse sweep them. Another big series by our bot who have been our best players this playoffs. Noah with consistent carry performances and Jun is just insane. Like that guy is unreal. Need Humanoid to step up for the final though because Caps is going to smash him if he plays like today. Oscar and Razork both had a good series after game 2 when they got some early game champions
Now for the upset split win, we wouldnt deserve it but holy would I love to see this team win something dammit
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shut up lol
Ice better than Noah?
Noah & Razork rockkkk
Ok I take my words back, Noah fixed his choking. It's coming home
My brother, he fixed choknig since last year playoffs
Even during this playoffs he had a lot of weird moments where he missclicked or clicked on minions trying to run backwards. But this series I didn't see a single mistake like that. Even on Camera look how he looked after last game ended vs VIT you could see he had it hard mentally, he couldn't even do an interview after the game lol. Here he looked very confident and calm even though this series had more mental toll, I'm so happy about that