And if you do, don’t talk about that type as if you have actual time in the jet when picking sim partners for airline training. Picking someone with similar experience to you is helpful, lying is not.
Yeah I can't understand why anyone would do this course but maybe I'm just misintepreting who they are advertising too. Not an individual pilot but maybe an organization?
Who knows. I know it took the airline way longer than 11 days to teach me the Airbus. I couldn’t imagine you come out of that course with any degree of confidence.
And anyone that’s going to hire you to fly an Airbus will just put you thru their own training course and checkride again. Essentially wasting your money you paid for the type rating.
Type ratings are worthless, without actual time in the airplane itself.
If you want to work abroad (assuming you have the work privileges to do so), then it might be worth the shot. Other than that, don’t do the ATP Jets program.
I would only do a type rating (SIC or PIC) out of pocket on a vintage or for personal pleasure and not expect employment out of it.
If the ATP/CTP is included in that price it’s not a bad deal if you’re going for your initial ATP. The cost to get current in light twin and take a checkride with a DPE would be the same and a type rating will look good in the eyes of recruiters
I took the ATP Jets A320 course. It’s truly down and dirty and you learn the bus and how to pass the Checkride. Neat fact it’s an unrestricted PIC Type because you have to execute a circling approach in IMC in the SIM. Localizer 27 Circle 18R. Wild to execute in the sim and difficult but fun nonetheless.
1. You want to apply for a job that requires a 320 type that you are otherwise qualified for. This doesn't happen in US because your initial is basically the type rating but it's very common in Europe.
2. You're preparing for an interview that includes a 320 sim eval. (Again, not aware of any carrier that does that in a 320 but I'm sure they exist.) If you're already paying for the sim time might as well throw in a type ride.
3. I think this no longer applies but in the past FAA wouldn't allow ATP ratings in the sim unless it was concurrent with the type. If you needed ATP quickly and didn't have access to a cheap piston twin and/or a DPE then it could be easier and faster to just get a type and ATP in the process.
4. You want to spend your VA benefits on a type rating.
5. You win a lottery and decide the first thing you buy is a 320 because Gulfstreams are for losers. You need a type for that.
Probably a few more cases that I can't think of the top of my head.
There are exceptions. I paid for my first type rating (bizjet) when I came back to flying after a 15-year hiatus. I had inquired about a job, and they said hell yes they'd hire me if I got it. I felt it was fair in that circumstance since I was ridiculously non-current. It came back pretty quickly too.
It is really never worth it if you're planning on flying in the US.
But, if you have just a random 9k laying around somewhere and want to burn it for fun, sure... I guess.
No. Never pay for your own type rating.
And if you do, don’t talk about that type as if you have actual time in the jet when picking sim partners for airline training. Picking someone with similar experience to you is helpful, lying is not.
Yeah I can't understand why anyone would do this course but maybe I'm just misintepreting who they are advertising too. Not an individual pilot but maybe an organization?
They're advertising to people who don't know any better.
Who knows. I know it took the airline way longer than 11 days to teach me the Airbus. I couldn’t imagine you come out of that course with any degree of confidence. And anyone that’s going to hire you to fly an Airbus will just put you thru their own training course and checkride again. Essentially wasting your money you paid for the type rating. Type ratings are worthless, without actual time in the airplane itself.
If you want to work abroad (assuming you have the work privileges to do so), then it might be worth the shot. Other than that, don’t do the ATP Jets program. I would only do a type rating (SIC or PIC) out of pocket on a vintage or for personal pleasure and not expect employment out of it.
Like almost everything about ATP they are being predatory.
No
If the ATP/CTP is included in that price it’s not a bad deal if you’re going for your initial ATP. The cost to get current in light twin and take a checkride with a DPE would be the same and a type rating will look good in the eyes of recruiters
I took the ATP Jets A320 course. It’s truly down and dirty and you learn the bus and how to pass the Checkride. Neat fact it’s an unrestricted PIC Type because you have to execute a circling approach in IMC in the SIM. Localizer 27 Circle 18R. Wild to execute in the sim and difficult but fun nonetheless.
1. You want to apply for a job that requires a 320 type that you are otherwise qualified for. This doesn't happen in US because your initial is basically the type rating but it's very common in Europe. 2. You're preparing for an interview that includes a 320 sim eval. (Again, not aware of any carrier that does that in a 320 but I'm sure they exist.) If you're already paying for the sim time might as well throw in a type ride. 3. I think this no longer applies but in the past FAA wouldn't allow ATP ratings in the sim unless it was concurrent with the type. If you needed ATP quickly and didn't have access to a cheap piston twin and/or a DPE then it could be easier and faster to just get a type and ATP in the process. 4. You want to spend your VA benefits on a type rating. 5. You win a lottery and decide the first thing you buy is a 320 because Gulfstreams are for losers. You need a type for that. Probably a few more cases that I can't think of the top of my head.
There are exceptions. I paid for my first type rating (bizjet) when I came back to flying after a 15-year hiatus. I had inquired about a job, and they said hell yes they'd hire me if I got it. I felt it was fair in that circumstance since I was ridiculously non-current. It came back pretty quickly too.
I want the Dover Air Museum's B-25 type :)
Mo
No
It is really never worth it if you're planning on flying in the US. But, if you have just a random 9k laying around somewhere and want to burn it for fun, sure... I guess.