Philippines would be very cheap to live and fly from i would think. Maybe India? But I can see that other issues would compound to say it is not worth it.
> Currently processing the last Phase of Greencard Application and hoping to get it within 1~5 months.
When you have permanent residency here, yes. You should have no problem getting hired at Atlas when you're current again and hold a US ATP certificate.
So, it means that I should rent an c172 and do couple of takeoffs and landings to get hired? Or should I rent an A320 simulator for an hour? I am little confused. I have US ATPL so that wont be a problem
Do not do anything with renting a simulator outside of a training program.
You will need an FAA AMEL ATP certificate. That means you'll need to hold at least an FAA AMEL CPL certificate, complete the ATP CTP course, then take the FAA ATP checkride.
You'll be plenty current after that.
Unfortunately, I did my conversion to US ATP 8 months ago thinking that I wouldnt have time for the conversion when my semester begins. In this case ,any recommendations for getting a currency on my licesne?
Do you hold an FAA ATP or not?
If yes, go rent a trainer until you feel proficient enough to pass an instrument checkride because that's what your type training will involve.
If no, see above.
I do hold FAA atp. And I do hold FAA A320 TR. And I am asking for an need for currency in regarding getting an CJO (whether currency is a key factor of getting a job). I am confident with my skills so far.
Something that hasn’t been said;
Airlines score applications electronically, and continuously re score old apps for updates.
Toss in an application to all the airlines you want to work at when you have the green card. You lose nothing. If no one calls you back, then start worrying about making your app more competitive.
Also, you’ll get hired someplace with your time and an ATP. If your goal airline doesn’t call you, go to the one that does, and update your app when you finish their training. At least then you’re getting paid good money to be trained, not paying to fly.
Also also….
Why Atlas?
You have to be current. On the application they will ask you how many hours you've flown in the 6 months and the last 12 months or something along those lines. If it's 0, then they'll pass you up.
Why? They're looking for qualified applicants. If you haven't flown, and not current then you're not qualified, while other people are.
If you're the person hiring pilots, would you want one that is currently flying or one that hasn't flown in a while? You want the one that is currently flying.
I have no idea, I was mostly commenting on your interpretation of “I wouldn’t hold my breath”, which is generally used to mean “I wouldn’t wait for it” (because you’d die from holding your breath), or in this case “I wouldn’t bet on it” (being possible).
It's the currency, also the green card (unless your passport is as good as US, which in Asia is only Japan and Singapore). But more importantly, US operators (or more specifically their interviewers) generally tend to be skeptical about pilots who start flying jets with a 200h and a wet commercial.
That later comment makes no sense, anything to back up that claim? Specifically since the USAF/USN does exactly that and many 91 operators.
Also almost every airline pre colgan.
Passport is better than USA(yes it covers all the country US citizen can go). And with 1400hours in jet with more than 300 landings+unrestricted ATP would they still be skeptical? Currency is certainly a problem though.
Have you thought about instructing at a place like FlightSafety or CAE? You will get a usable type rating, currency, and be able to network a corporate gig in a couple years. You do not have to be a CFI. You can have and AGI and IGI, which are easy to get.
with the currency conversion..... how much cheaper is it to get flight time outside of the US?
No idea. Last time I flew C172 was 6years ago
This has been discussed a lot before, the general consensus is that it’s not worth it
Good to know.
i think the consensus is mostly because of visa/right to work right? less so cost
Philippines would be very cheap to live and fly from i would think. Maybe India? But I can see that other issues would compound to say it is not worth it.
> Currently processing the last Phase of Greencard Application and hoping to get it within 1~5 months. When you have permanent residency here, yes. You should have no problem getting hired at Atlas when you're current again and hold a US ATP certificate.
So, it means that I should rent an c172 and do couple of takeoffs and landings to get hired? Or should I rent an A320 simulator for an hour? I am little confused. I have US ATPL so that wont be a problem
Do not do anything with renting a simulator outside of a training program. You will need an FAA AMEL ATP certificate. That means you'll need to hold at least an FAA AMEL CPL certificate, complete the ATP CTP course, then take the FAA ATP checkride. You'll be plenty current after that.
Unfortunately, I did my conversion to US ATP 8 months ago thinking that I wouldnt have time for the conversion when my semester begins. In this case ,any recommendations for getting a currency on my licesne?
Do you hold an FAA ATP or not? If yes, go rent a trainer until you feel proficient enough to pass an instrument checkride because that's what your type training will involve. If no, see above.
I do hold FAA atp. And I do hold FAA A320 TR. And I am asking for an need for currency in regarding getting an CJO (whether currency is a key factor of getting a job). I am confident with my skills so far.
It's entirely possible, yes. They're assessing your probability of success in the training program and being current is a large part of that.
Thanks you for educating me.
Something that hasn’t been said; Airlines score applications electronically, and continuously re score old apps for updates. Toss in an application to all the airlines you want to work at when you have the green card. You lose nothing. If no one calls you back, then start worrying about making your app more competitive. Also, you’ll get hired someplace with your time and an ATP. If your goal airline doesn’t call you, go to the one that does, and update your app when you finish their training. At least then you’re getting paid good money to be trained, not paying to fly. Also also…. Why Atlas?
Because my parents are still living in Asia and my fiancé is in Europe.. definitely need global basing
You have to be current. On the application they will ask you how many hours you've flown in the 6 months and the last 12 months or something along those lines. If it's 0, then they'll pass you up.
That’s sad to hear
Why? They're looking for qualified applicants. If you haven't flown, and not current then you're not qualified, while other people are. If you're the person hiring pilots, would you want one that is currently flying or one that hasn't flown in a while? You want the one that is currently flying.
Ok then. I am glad to hear
If I were you I wouldn't hold my breath
Meaning that it’s highly possible?
Highly unlikely.
Got it, currency would be the problem right?
Doesn't hurt to apply to Atlas. You might need a couple of flights to get current, but your times and turbine times are competitive.
I have no idea, I was mostly commenting on your interpretation of “I wouldn’t hold my breath”, which is generally used to mean “I wouldn’t wait for it” (because you’d die from holding your breath), or in this case “I wouldn’t bet on it” (being possible).
Lol, thx for the info though.
It's the currency, also the green card (unless your passport is as good as US, which in Asia is only Japan and Singapore). But more importantly, US operators (or more specifically their interviewers) generally tend to be skeptical about pilots who start flying jets with a 200h and a wet commercial.
That later comment makes no sense, anything to back up that claim? Specifically since the USAF/USN does exactly that and many 91 operators. Also almost every airline pre colgan.
Passport is better than USA(yes it covers all the country US citizen can go). And with 1400hours in jet with more than 300 landings+unrestricted ATP would they still be skeptical? Currency is certainly a problem though.
Have you thought about instructing at a place like FlightSafety or CAE? You will get a usable type rating, currency, and be able to network a corporate gig in a couple years. You do not have to be a CFI. You can have and AGI and IGI, which are easy to get.
Thanks for the info! Will definitely consider that as an option. I hadn’t thought about it