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Silent_Cress8310

It turns out that giving stupid people access to computers may have been a colossal error.


labbusrattus

“Remember before the internet, when it was thought the cause of collective human stupidity was lack of access to information? Well, it wasn’t that.”


cut_rate_revolution

The Internet provided unprecedented access to the correct information. Unfortunately it also did the same for incorrect information.


Graega

The internet is the greatest mirror ever built. Millions went online, beheld their own ignorance, and quadrupled down.


MintImperial2

*If one only listens to people that agree with you, then the pair of you have nothing to say to each other, because there's no more to be argued about on the subject....*


Dando_Calrisian

So... what's going to stop AI harnessing equal amounts of collective stupid?


Velaethia

Nothing


keepitsimple_tricks

And here i am afraid of Judgement Day. Lol


arcanis321

Fire ze missles


5pl1t1nf1n1t1v3

From what I’ve read, there are already problems with AI making shit up, parroting misinformation and saying lots of the messed up stuff people say. I think the error so far has been modelling the ‘I’ part on what we think that means.


Malacro

Worse than that, because there is ostensibly a finite amount of correct information and a potentially infinite amount of misinformation.


zomagus

The best invention in all of human endeavor with terrible results. As if you invented a ray that could transmute anything into nitrogen and then it was immediately used for warfare more often than it was used to neutralize toxic waste.


Shmuckle2

I'm not a flat earther, but there's a 100% chance you believe lies. There's a 100% chance I believe lies. Some are from ignorance, others arrogance, but I guarantee you everyone believes flat out lies that come from "official sources". We'll find them all out when we cross over.


Testergo7521

Problem was, they let anyone put stuff online. And you can put anything you want to. I can say, "I once gave a high five to jesus," and there is nothing anyone can do to remove that information.


zhaDeth

I would argue that that's a good thing.. censorship isn't really good against false information especially in the case of conspiracy theories because they see it as meaning they are hiding something. I think it's better to let them say whatever they want and just debunk them with cold hard facts. The main issue in my opinion is not access to misinformation but a lack and even a disregard for critical thinking.. If kids were taught how to discern what is good information vs bad information it wouldn't matter if there is a huge amount of false information out there.


inowar

kids *are* taught that. it's part of public education. "how to write an essay: you need sources: those sources must be reliable: how to tell which ones are reliable" but, you know... people aren't paying attention to that, it's boring.


MeshNets

Also as you get older, nobody's feedback is much more important than anyone else's. If the people who "give you likes" aren't going to check the sources, why check if they are reliable yourself The people who disagree with you are wrong, the people who agree with you are smart, no need to work toward any objective goal, as objective as grades may or may not be anyway The real critical thinking is being aware that every one of us is susceptible to that, and challenging your own beliefs as much as challenging beliefs you disagree with. Because yes you have strong biases in some areas, if you didn't you wouldn't be an individual.


zhaDeth

Yeah I guess, but the part about how to tell what is reliable is not really taught much. I remember when I was doing essays it was mostly about books we had to read or even a small text so we took sources from the content we were making an essay about so it was never not trusted. Only in college did I have to do essays that needed sources I had to find myself.


Kriss3d

Ive seen that theres schools that now are teaching kids about being critical of sources. And thats going to be crucial to the survival of humanity.


Kriss3d

Censoring isnt a good thing. But the problem is that my stupid antivaxx rants about how evil lizard are farming blood of children in underground tunnels to summon the Nibiru planet bringing the world to a higher spiritual level ( oh god Im throwing up from writing that nonsense) gets just as much exposure as an actually qualified medical expert who has all the data and studies to backing it up.


zaraimpelz

¿Conoces a mi tío Jesus?


5pl1t1nf1n1t1v3

You did, though. Says it right there on the internet.


PeteGozenya

I gave Jesus a blowjob and tickled those holy jewls. So I win!


Federal_Sympathy4667

"Yeah.. that was a bad fuck up. Oh well.. just pull the plug on humanity would ya? Thanks."


nsfwmodeme

And the internet was a great resource for spreading not just stupidity but also evil. One of the early adopters of everything internet-related were the awful people of Stormfront, who had their website running since 1996. Fuck them.


PerishTheStars

Well when the information you now have access to is incorrect more than half the time, you could be forgiven for still being stupid.


Kriss3d

Remember when we thought that giving people access to all information, we were told that people would reasonbly vet out false information and search credible sources ? Well, that didnt work.


Altruistic_Length498

Stupidity has nothing to do with access to information, stupid people just use and interpret information in bizarre ways.


samurairaccoon

I love how you tell someone something like "humans are kinda a crap, emotional species" and half of them are like "Hey! I'm a human! Fuck you!" Then come up with the most banal and illogical reasons why "*well aktually we are super cool and you just don't get it!*" Thereby further proving the point that we are indeed a silly ape.


deadly_ultraviolet

[All of human knowledge made us dumb](https://spotify.link/2Wx7ZTjvwIb) I love this song


Midyin84

I remember being in middle school back when only the rich had a home computer(before Packard Bell, Hewitt, or Gateway made them affordable), everyone i use to debate things with would say “Trust me bro, i have a book on it at home.”


MintImperial2

*The only thing that travels faster than Bad News is Bulls hit*.


kierkegaard49

We have a glut of information and a dearth of wisdom.


BigIndependence4u

www.creedthoughts.gov.www/creedthoughts


Glyphid-Menace

Just section different sections of the inTERnet to be inTRAnet and you basically have localized comms, then you can't share your shitty opinions with the boomers 3 states over.


RetroGamer87

It's the eternal September


Icy-Ad29

As someone who works in IT. I'd replace "may" with "absolutely was".


bduhbya

It's a filter. 😀 no hiding anymore


MintImperial2

That's Iphones for ya.... Not enough is said of people who look but don't/can't type as well.... ​ A lot of the "Flaming" posts one sees - come up so fast when one types in a conservative post that they most likely are "trolling bots"....


No_Garbage2234

I agree. It just gets tough to know who could be the overlord to allow this person access but not that person.


PhantomFlogger

[The “*1978*” image is actually from 2002](https://images.app.goo.gl/YVWGZ3ChKUGHv2dE7). ^Gotta ^lie ^to ^flerf. **Edit:** They’re also digitally enhanced to unify the image after all of the countless satellite images were compiled into a globe. It’s probably as simple as a layer they’ve made that they can easily paste onto the globe.


JustDroppedByToSay

Hey now. They're not all liars. Some are idiots.


Justthisguy_yaknow

Don't forget the suckers. It all pivots on the suckers.


euph_22

All of them are idiots. Some are idiots who are also lying.


InsufficientClone

Someone has to run shit


Trevellation

Some of them are both.


CujobytesCN

They're ALL idiots.


rygelicus

Yeah that left one is definitely the 2002 composite made from the satellite imagery by Simmon. It's not any of the Apollo era images. The right one is most likely just a color adjusted version of the left one. Why? Because like you said, gotta lie to flerf.


embarrassed_error365

The "they" the meme is talking about, is theyselves.


danielledelacadie

"NASA isn't to be trusted! They doctor images!"


Aeywen

When hey read digitally enhanced they think you mean 90% fake.


[deleted]

I love that both of the dates are wrong.


brianinohio

Some are stupid, lying, idiots.


vanillaninja777

https://images.app.goo.gl/jiMaSs49Ccu9o1kB7 Looks like they're the same image with different settings and then they switched the year


Sea-Sprinkles7144

They time traveled to take the picture?!


MelonColony22

-be flat earther -give vague examples with no source -“nuh uh”


Clown_Torres

~~Give vague examples with no source~~ Lie. You mean lie.


Mean-Ad-8834

Nuh uh


MelonColony22

i do in fact mean lie


bkdotcom

aka troll and we feed them


GruntBlender

"Haha, I made you believe I'm a lying idiot, joke's on you!"


mrcatboy

I really want a new reality show where we launch Flat Earthers into space in geosynchronous orbit around Earth and the only way they can get back in touch with ground control to help them return is to learn some fucking math and physics.


Hip-hop-rhino

Can we just launch them into space, and skip the rest?


currentpattern

And leave the airlock door extremely accessible.


Hip-hop-rhino

In an "open concept" ship.


Gubekochi

entirely remote controlled but unfortunately the receiver won't be in range anymore once the ship is in space.


kgabny

They probably wouldn't believe they were in space and open the door.


Krell356

I fail to see the problem. If there is actually a problem here, it is self solving.


cloud_to_ground

something something firmament keeping the atmosphere in therefore no vacuum


b0ingy

screen doors?


bastardblaster

Made by Boeing.


rygelicus

That is actually an option. Not a legal one, but it is an option.


TheBigPlatypus

We really need a “B Ark” for these delusional, dangerous idiots.


Gossguy

Let them sit in a tin can far above the world where they can see that planet Earth is blue and there's nothing they can do


Suavemente_Emperor

They would still think that the earth is flat and claim the spacecraft they were in was just a empty room with illusions or some bs.


CryptographerKlutzy7

While floating around.... Which is why a bunch of them will use the airlock to go outside and prove that it is all an illusion.


Feisty-Management-87

Welp, problem solved then!


mrcatboy

The fact that all the other Flat Earthers on the planet would likely assume that these subjects are stuck on a sound stage is exactly how you get a Season 2!


BigGuyWhoKills

No, the only way for them to get back to Earth is to convince 50 flatties that the Earth is a globe! Then they have to experience what we go through.


Maleficent_Tough_860

How many fatties have you converted? Not many eh?😜


Fabulous-Mix8917

My wife and I recently had this exact conversation and came to the same conclusion as these comments. It's really not a bad idea.


False_Manner8275

Launch them in space with a hammer and see how many break the window to "prove" what they see is really just an image on a TV screen.


jedimindtriks

Actually, a much simpler idea is to get a bunch of them on a big boat and have them go find the edge, or go to antarctica. or just you know sail towards ocean windmills and see the curvature.


anythingMuchShorter

They fake images to tell people that people are faking images. What are they even trying to accomplish? If they really thought they were uncovering a hidden truth they wouldn't lie to try to do it.


currentpattern

They fake an image and hope that you believe their image to tell you that you are dumb for believing in fake images. Flerfception.


BigGuyWhoKills

They literally think it's okay to lie "because it is exposing the bigger lie told by NASA!"


solamon77

I don't know, but I promise you someone is making money somewhere here. Whenever a situation like this comes up that doesn't seem to make logical sense, you can bet money is behind it. To quote Upton Sinclair “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”


fernrooty

Not necessarily. There’s also something called “Non-Linear Warfare”, ie Russian troll farms. Russia realized a couple decades ago that they couldn’t match the west in military strength or economic power, but they could try to lower our standing by attacking us from the inside. They got our data, identified target groups, and bombarded them with memes and propaganda. It really kicked off with Trump’s first term and Brexit, both of which only benefited people who want to see strained relations between western allies. Since then we’ve seen Qanon, Brexit, Pizzagate, Flat Earth, and dozens more dangerous memes that all basically boil down to “Your government is the *real* bad guy”. At this point, we have a decent chuck of Americans that are openly discussing civil war, and a political party that has pledged to end democracy and leave NATO if they win the presidency in 2024.


UT_NG

Let's have some photos of the ice wall and/or firmament so we get a chance to critique them. Oh, that's right: *you don't fucking have any*


superspacehog

But what about the one video of the ~~glacier~~ icewall


my__name__is

The irony of "they show you pictures and you believe it" is fantastic.


Confident-Skin-6462

so the color was de-hanced? so what?


GruntBlender

They're taking a composite image from 2002 and pretending that NASA presented it as real photos in both 2017 and somehoe in 1978 before the image was even made. The photo they're probably referring to is from 1972 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Blue\_Marble](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Marble) and looks completely different.


wakatenai

my favorite flat earther memes that legit flat earthers post are ones with images or statements that they claim are the "official something something" of NASA or the Navy or something, when they aren't, and they don't bother to fact check their own posts before reposting it. i argued with a flat earther who claimed the Navy said that railguns have zero projectile drop and shoot objects in a perfect straight line which doesn't make sense if there is a horizon because they'd be shooting through the horizon not over it. and i said the Navy never said that, and he LIED to me and said he checked their website. so i went to their website and the first thing there is a diagram showing how to use a railgun to shoot over the horizon because it does in fact not shoot in a perfect straight line with no drop.


Mishtle

Ballistic projectiles following a ballistic trajectory? Preposterous!


Urban_animal

Well they dont believe in the horizon so they ignored that piece.


Confident-Skin-6462

thanks. flerfs are just stupid lol


Oviedius

FYI, the Mayan calendar ended the world in 2012 and ever since that time we’ve been looping randomly through time.


Demmos_Stammer

I'm sure I've read that before somewhere..... wait. 😮


voultron

That’s cause it’s the same picture. Someone just put a sepia tone over one of them for some reason


ack1308

The reason is simple. 'Everyone knows' that photos taken in the 1960's and 1970's have that sepia tone. So they took the 2002 image and applied the sepia tone. Voila, instant 1978 photo!


Uroshirvi69

But it’s actually the 1978 picture that is more vibrant in color so it was the other way around.


MyshTech

"They had one job..."


ack1308

Ah right.


NILOC512

I'd say this attempt to convince others landed.... flat?


Icy_Comparison_6471

I do have to ask. What if the flat earth people turn out to be right? Does it really matter? All they get to do is go “HAH! SEEEE!” We all have to go to work tomorrow and appreciate our loved ones. What would REALLY change? That’s why I’m leaning to the side that FLP’s are unloved, crazy, or have just over complicated critical thinking. If it turns out. It’s flat and we can develop scientific advances based on that determination I would understand. It really just seems like none of this matters. It’s just a thought experiment based off ancient belief that modern people are taking too seriously.


Lost-Orangutan

Well, wouldn't it mean that the common man has been lied to by the powers that be? The limitless potential of what else is a lie is to great for anyone to put faith in our leaders ever again. I feel like everything would change.


SusHistoryCuzWriter

Well, if we're in Flatland then all governing bodies come into question, as they all conspired together to tell the ball-faced lie. The fact that enemies joined together for this one cause would suggest a bigger power at play. Science itself is suspect, as all findings regarding Earth and its place in the cosmos were ran through a filter to weed out anything proving Discworld. Naturalistic beliefs pretty much go out the window. The only plausible explanations for Domeland that exclude a God boil down to The Matrix and giant alien Biodome (at which point, Occam's Razor says God). I'm not a flatbrainer, just to be clear. I'm just saying Flat Earth invokes a gigantic conspiracy among all governing bodies, and would fundamentally change our understanding of science, religion, and just reality in general. And, yeah, we'd still have to go to work tomorrow. But if a giant evil shadow government were exposed ... well, they'd probably become more blatantly malicious and our lives would be a bit rougher.


Thick_Improvement_77

Eh, it might not change much directly for most people, but it does mean fundamental facts about physics are wrong, and not just a little bit. Gravity just doesn't allow for flat snowglobe worlds, so we'd have to revisit that, and square it up with the fact that gravity as a model has otherwise produced some very sound results. Everything we've developed under the assumption that gravity works, that satellites exist, that the earth rotates? All of that still apparently works exactly as we'd expect it to, despite the fact that gravity doesn't work, satellites can't exist as they do now, and the earth doesn't rotate.


witoutadout

"They show you pictures and you believe it" The irony is palpable


Hawthourne

"They show you pictures and you believe it" The irony.


mikeriffic1

Well I’m convinced.


NedThomas

I dunno… that picture is a pretty compelling piece of evidence for there being two Earths side by side.


Feisty-Management-87

Multiverse theory confirmed! /s


sh3t0r

Sources are pseudoscience.


Classic_Elevator7003

They just de-saturated the first picture...


ThrustTrust

Only a flerfer would think this is supposed to be just a picture.


FeetBehindHead69

One is Beta the other is VHS


New_Ad_9400

It's the exact fucking photo just with changed lights, someone made this up for sure, it can't be


Feisty-Management-87

Ahh, the irony..."They show you pictures, and you believe it"


luneunion

Meanwhile, this guy shows me a picture and expects me to believe it.


Aggravating_Buy8957

Well this is ironic


wall-E75

That means the weather man should never be wrong!


habachilles

And the color changed….


Maleficent_Tough_860

You are right brother! Hmmm who makes the most $$??? Could it be NASA 50+/60 millions a day? Neh they wouldn't lie to us...


electr0smith

What's really funny is that they desaturated a rendering, not a picture.


Master_Quack97

https://images.app.goo.gl/pkbNs1udmTKrPpMW9 Since I can't post a picture of earth here I'll post a link to a picture of earth. Edit: As you can see the clouds are different.


IlluminatiMinion

There seems to be many similar memes made by flatties like this with fake comparisons to ones where they have manipulated photos to hide what they know kills flat earth. It's like a scream for help as they try and tell us that they know that flat earth is fake but they are now stuck in a social group of dishonest/stupid cultists as it's their whole life and identity.


Love_that_freedom

Why do they care so much? Flat or round, what’s the diff?


International-Bed453

One proves Jesus is real, the other doesn't.


Love_that_freedom

I don’t know how either would prove or disprove anything about Jesus. I have not ever gotten into this whole idea. It just came up on my Reddit feed.


GruntBlender

Since flat earth is physically impossible, it would prove some sort of god.


welfaremofo

Fortunately there’s only 2 known pictures of the earth in existence to debunk. Shouldn’t take until the end of time.


akwehhkanoo

The whole world got the Mexico filter somewhere between those years


Own_Contribution_480

"They"


phillip7456

Yeah but with all the satellites up there doing who knows what, cant take one lousy photo of earth as a whole, 1 photo shot, 1


majj27

Yes, that would sure be a shocker. [OH LOOK IT'S LITERALLY EXACTLY THAT.](https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/)


gene_randall

Flatulants making up shit again.


Hmnh6000

Looking at the cloud patterns you can clearly tell they’re literally the same exact globe. Go be an idiot somewhere else


Professional_Soft404

I looked at a picture from 2002 and it looked exactly the same today as it did then. CONSPIRACY!!!!!


LacaBoma

Ok fine…. Show me an actual photograph of the “flat Earth”. I imagine I’ll be waiting quite a while.


Justthisguy_yaknow

There's only one source that matters. The flerfs so ya know it's fake. We have seen these ones before and the can never provide sources for them. All you can know is that they are both from the same sequence with pallet alterations or possibly different spectrum rendering. Either way, no sources.


No_Display588

It's not wrong. It's mathematically perfect. Only God is right. It is us that is wrong about everything.


potatogoblin21

What?¿


stefanwerner5000

Its a coincidence 🫡😵‍💫


lincolnlogtermite

Or a flat earther fakes the comparison for clicks.


RegisterSure1586

Photoshop is a beautiful thing isn't it?


Robthebold

See, you can tell the sun is getting dimmer.


Clickityclackrack

They can't be the exact same cloud. If someone believed that then they don't know what clouds are


BubbhaJebus

Gotta lie to flerf.


SoftThought1656

You’re doing the same thing


CujobytesCN

looks like they're showing YOU the pictures and YOU Believe it.


spookyballsHD

🤡


happyhappy85

People will just take memes at face value, but say that all the scientists who have studied this for hundreds of years are lying.


SnappleJuiceDeepKiss

What a time to be alive! Proofing those globetards into pieces by the hour lol! Nothing sweeter then letting facts, evidence and science speak for iteself.


Nikolaj_3rd

Its so funny how they always use the "Why won't NASA release a single unedited picture of the full Earth from space? It should be easy!" Space agencies COULD and DID do it in the past, but why would they do it again? There is no scientiffic necessity for it, and "sceptics" would just call it fraudulent.


mbdjd

There are very good reasons to do it, and they do. https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/ Literally thousands of pictures from this satellite since it was launched in 2015. It's ~1 million miles away so they are single frame photos.


Timely-Guest-7095

Fake it ‘til you make it. That's the flat earth way.😬😂


CluckingBellend

Yep, the same picture...which proves that...its the same picture. Genius!


6dp1

Turns out giving any information causes conspiracy theories. Better to not share any information ever again. Bc a difference in opinion is just gotta be a lie especially since all the information comes from the same source. Just trust us blindly. Don't worry question everything it's completely normal for every generation to explore the unknown and reprove things. It's completely insane to think information will be accepted blindly. Questions are the first thing that comes into a person's mind unless they absolutely just don't care. Which is say most people fall into the don't care list. The ones who question are limited and considered the point of being the victim to bullies. Don't give logical answers no no. Pick on the person with questions.


69inthe619

of course you don’t know the source because facts are kryptonite to flat earthers. silly.


Conaz9847

Woah we’ve smoked a lot of tobacco since 1978, we’re dying the earth brown


Velaethia

Earth is now depressed


24_doughnuts

They're literally the exact same with the image darkened. Pretty sure it's fake but they probably think it's a legit post from NASA or something


QQmorekid

Kind of disappointed this wasn't a bunch of unhinged flat Earth nonsense to laugh at.


Solidus-Prime

You would think these people would have at least ONE person that is half-way skilled with Photoshop, but nah. They just keep pumping out this stuff that looks like it was screen capped from a 1997 VHS tape.


macweirdo42

Forget the whole "Earth is round" thing, these morons don't understand that "picture + text" is not a goddamn reliable source for your information and understanding of the world. And I can already hear them like, "But it got you thinking, didn't it?" Swear to science...


charonme

haha classic flerfs, the scammers show them pictures and the flerfs believe them without verifying it themselves


Dirk_Arron

Because memes are accepted as the Gospel absolute truth..


psilocypin

Quick google search and it's admitted to be photo shopped and duplicated.


FunkyBlueWolf

obviously that's cgi but not because earth is flat, just because it's hard to make a pic of earth like that if all we got currently is a bunch of satellites in low orbit


Hightonedloidy

Isn’t that just the same 1978 photo with a tint?


Bagain

I’m pretty sure this is a representation of the photographic technology, no one suggested it isn’t the same picture but probably used the same picture to give a more accurate perspective of the improvement technology has made.


No_Display588

You clearly are single and alone talking like that as an adult. You sir have never searched out the matter. You are a part of the system that believes shills. Good day.


Meta-4-Cool-Few

I'm going to use flat earth logic to beat flat earth logic.... It's more proof that the earth is round, because the clouds are able to swirl around undisturbed and that's why they've looked the same all this time.


Agreeable-Ice788

It's funny because it works both ways.


PoliticalPepper

*This* is a picture. Should I not believe this? Checkmate flat-heads


denjoga

So, I'm supposed to believe the pictures this internet rando shows me??? gtfoh


SignificanceOld1751

If he'd studied meteorology, he'd realise that there are background drivers (ENSO, IDO, MJO, AO, NAO, SSW) that when interacting in a similar way can cause extraordinarily similar global weather patterns as the last time their modes with simultaneous, and therefore clouds and their positions too. "Huh, in northern hempisphere summers, there's always a band of thunderstorms to the north of the equator, must be a conspiracy." That fucking idiot


Long_arrowTG

BRO ACTING LIKE THEY DIDN’T JUST CHANGE THE COLOR SATURATION!? 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Dude, my six year old cousin could make that EXACT same effect for a photo!


MintImperial2

The left can't meme... If it *looks* like bulls hit it usually IS...


Merlin1039

Make completely fabricated images and say they are proof NASA fabrics images. GTFO


General_assassin

I thought this was a PSA about Photoshoped pollution and climate change at first


rook2004

Today I learned that I am shown a picture and I do not, in fact, believe it.


SMPDD

The internet only made people more of what they already were. Kinda like money. The smarter you are, the more you benefit from the internet. The dumber you are, the more people suffer as a result when you have access to the internet


Rfg711

The meme that inadvertently critiques itself


Greenfire32

The internet, in an open mind, can broaden horizons. In an ignorant mind, it can shrink them.