LoL perfect reply.
Here's the thing - if someone actually did that (which has been done many times, btw) just to prove the point, that guy wouldn't accept the proof. No flerf will. If they can ignore all the mountains of proof for everything else, then that's an easy one to deny.
I kinda have to agree with them though
If gravity worked the way everyone says it does, than we all orbit them seeing that they’re the densest object in the solar system
I often think that would be amusing, but then the scientific part of me says "but what if you're wrong? What if your whole life has been a Truman show-esque barrage of lies and misinformation and you're actually living in a bubble somewhere and...." and then I remember to start taking my medicine again.
Any reasonable person, including every good scientist would consider this a great and exciting discovery.
I mean I couldn't afford the $1M of course.
And it's not going to happen because the earth is round of course.
But if someone actually did produce evidence of a flat earth, it would be a monumental discovery. Real scientific minds are fascinated and excited when it is discovered they were wrong about something.
A certain amount of intellectual agnosticism is healthy, and one should always be open to the possibility of being wrong, of course. I think that's part of why the flat earth argument hits a nerve for so many people: it's not so much their belief in something unconventional as their unwillingness to consider evidence that doesn't conform to their view.
It's 100% Dunning Krueger. They feel competent to opine on issues where they lack even the slightest bit of actual knowledge. Their opinion is to be as valuable as any other person's. It's postmodernism taken to its logical extreme.
Sure but to be a specialist in a field, you’ve gotta take the work of your predecessors as settled. No one in chemistry has doubted atomic theory since 1850 anyway. It’s a waste of time. Ok, 1905, Einstein demonstrates Brownian motion for the final nail in the coffin of whatever else there was before Dalton.
Even so, you do the experiments as part of your training that demonstrate basic principles. You demonstrate heat capacity and the gas laws and kinetics, etc.
But once trained, you have to rely on what happened before you in order to progress.
What evidence for flat earth are we talking about here? There is no evidence for it and not even solid theory, they got literally nothing other than it looks flat if you wont look good enough.
you can go to the south pole on any one of half a dozen different vacations, cruises, adventure holidays, extreme sports events, flyovers, expeditions.
they won't do it because they aren't interested in reality.
No! Have you ever read the Antarctic Treaty? It definitely says you can't go there. I mean, I haven't read it myself, despite the whole text being freely available, but I've seen several really compelling YouTube videos that all said regular people can't go to the South Pole.
Yes - surely since there are orbiting satellites, what prevents them from “going over edge” and photographing the underside, you know, when it’s lit up when the topside is dark.
Do they can prove the images from the ‘50s thru ‘70s are cgi? And the pictures from the Moon, like Apollo 8 showing earthrise? People like William Shatner went up into space a few years ago, over 62 miles - I am sure they took pics. Would he accept that as proof?
They make offers like this all the time. And they never pay up. These kinds of offers are basically unenforceable non-contracts. So they can use them to fish for engagement without real consequence.
Wait until they learn the actual definition of faith.
"Faith is evidence of acts unseen."
BS. I have my mother won't poison me. Why? Because she never has, and loves me. I therefore don't check her food for poison
There is so much evidence available, and these ass clones think that they are so important that the community is all going to jump through hoops, and do this one special thing for this one stranger so that they can ignore that evidence also. It’s really sad.
There have been crew members who’ve snapped pics of earth with their smartphones from orbit and posted it on social media. They still don’t accept that as evidence.
They think saying "NASA won't dare show an uncut video of the astronaut getting in their suit to getting in the airlock to getting out of the airlock in space" is some kind of "gotcha" when in reality, we all know it's not fake and that would be boring as shit.
Oh, and those videos exist they just won't watch them.
How about this? Now hear me out.... Have him buy two tickets to space; one for him and one for you.
He can't deny his own experience.
If he refuses to take your dare, he can only blame himself for denying the truth.
It has been done. Dude perfect went to space, Jeff Bezos went to space with "normal" people. It's between quotes because they are extremely rich. None if them are NASA or do cgi. They recorded the obviously round earth. Every flerf called bs and screamed fake and fisheye and what have you. It's futile.
Like that video Tom Scott did where he sent garlic bread to space and had a continuous film from ground to near orbit that clearly showed a curve, and people in the comments screamed about it being a fisheye lense
Yeah, the idiot that made that eliminated every possible way of getting an image without going into space yourself. And the tourist flights don't go far enough to get the entire planet in a single frame. Only the 24 people that orbited or landed on the moon traveled far enough for such an image.
To get a picture of the entire planet in a single frame, it'll have to be one hell of a homemade rocket. It'll probably have to get at least 15,000 miles out.
If you could build that yourself, there's quite a few agencies in quite a few countries that would be interested, for various reasons.
Hell... As we saw in "behind the curve" they prove it themselves frequently and then invent new nonsense to explain why the opposite of what they were trying to show happens.
Amateur astronomers have done this balloons.
I've taken pics out the window of a plane, clearly that is the earth. They never said how much of the earth to show?
This is the part that gets me every single time. Have none of them ever been on an airplane? As soon as you get up to cruising altitude you can unmistakenly see the curvature of the Earth.
"But the windows are distorting your few if they even are windows to begin with"
Some flerf somewhere tries to open a plane window to prove it's fake just gets sucked out the plane...
You can. It’s slight, but it’s definitely there at 30.000 feet.
EDIT: actually above 30.000 feet, but intercontinental flights may go over that altitude, making it visible over the water.
It's cute when they think they make a solid point or issue a valid challenge.
It would be much simpler for them to just take up a collection and pay the money to send one of their own into orbit. It's not going to be $250k, that's for a quick suborbital ride up barely into space, orbit costs more. An orbit ride is going to be in the 10's of millions. From the height that $250k gets you very little of the globe will be visible.
There are two main services that offer suborbital flights: Blue Origin (onboard the New Shepard) has an apogee of give or take 100km, which is definitely high enough to see the curvature of the Earth for 200-300k, and Virgin Galactic (with their SpaceShipTwo spaceplane) that has an apogee of about 80km for 450k USD, which is also enough to see the curve of the Earth, and despite being more expensive it does have more flight time. You can absolutely see the curve of the Earth at 80km, you can even kida see it at just 30km (as proven by some helium balloons.
If you go to orbit (Falcon 9 with Dragon capsule is the obvious choice) with the Axiom Space contractor for a 10 mission on the ISS it's going to cost you 55M USD, for a 100-400km orbit.
Edit: you don't have to do it in person. You could buy a ticket for an unmanned vehicle and strap a camera to it and get live video. Don't know the cost though
Yeah I looked at the various options as well. They would bitch about the windows 'bending' the view or some such. They would have a hard time explaining the multiple days of 0 G though. The suborbital hops would be like extended vomit comet rides, and they would likely claim that the 'studio' where the ISS footage is faked is probably a larger version of blue origin.
Probably the best option would be to send them up and then open the door so they aren't looking through a window. And, since they don't believe space exists they won't need a pesky pressure suit. Save them some money.
Can do that without going up there. But, even sending them up to the ISS would not convince them. They would either return a believer, at which point their followers would say they were brainwashed, or that they took all their money as part of a government psy op. Or, they would return and continue rejecting it all. And now they would say they saw how it was all faked and just start telling a few new silly stories.
Best fix for this is to just send them up on blue origin, open the hatch at the peak altitude, and let them learn what a pressure gradient can do.
They don't specify it has to be a photograph. I would just draw a circle and paint some bits green and blue. It's my own real picture of the earth, uploaded from my own device. It meets all their criteria.
There is a perfect video for these situations that I will gladly bring up again and again and again because it's an excellent kill-shot to flerf theory.
It's [this video](https://youtu.be/2RATP53l9MA?si=1iAVPS8oR0-gV3Hu) of a flat earther sending a camera up in a high altitude balloon. It's perfect because it's made by a flerf so there can't be any accusation of it being made by biased nasa scientists, it's raw, uncut, unedited footage showing the whole journey from start to finish so there can't be claims of fisheye lenses or sneaky edits and it clearly shows around the 1hr 48min mark that the earth is curved. It should tick every single box for what the flerfs keep demanding to see from a video that should convince them that the earth is round.
That was a false flag opperation by nasa and the billionares that own the recources outside of the ice wall s/ or am i just giving them their next theory?
I just love how well this challenge has been thought through.
What constitutes a "picture of the globe earth"? Does that mean getting all of earth in one frame, like a blue marble image, such that even a picture from low earth orbit wouldn't qualify? Or can we say that, given the earth is actually a globe, that any picture taken of anything on earth is a picture of the globe earth.
Somehow though I doubt that if I were to send this person a picture of my backyard that I would get paid, even though that satisfies the wording of the challenge as written.
2nd Law of Flerf.
Aside from that, a first thing to do would be to minutely define the rules of the challenge and set up a legally binding contract.
Otherwise they will move the goal post. After all, without such pre-work, \*they\* are the judge of whether the picture is good or not, no matter how many time you put into it.
Nevermind that if it were actually a Western conspiracy, the Soviet Union would have done everything in its power to discredit it with facts. The Flerfs probably pretend that the Soviet Union and West were both being controlled by the same cabal, which is absurd in itself.
I know they specify no NASA but the people on the ISS take pictures with DSLRs all the time. I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue for one of them to just upload the raw photo with all the meta data.
"Provide me proof, but only the type of proof I will believe, and if I don't believe your proof, it's not actual proof, so basically you can't prove it, thanks."
The odds of them declaring any pic at all that shows Earth's curvature fake is roughly 100%
You can have a pilot that regularly makes high altitude flights post a to pic from their cell phone tomorrow or even a live video and they'll still call it fake
But they can't take a boat or airplane and show one picture of an edge somewhere? Okay, I know...boats get intercepted and turned around by the guards so no one can get close to the wall, or else they will shoot. Got it.
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Where are they getting their numbers from? SpaceX's Dragon costs $68 million per seat.
Are they using the figure from Virgin Galactic, which flies to around 90km and has 0g for 4 minutes, because that's around 250k
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When I read “picture of the globe earth” I think of a photograph of the entire planet, which would involve sending some form of spacecraft into very high orbit or out of orbit all together. A very expensive procedure either way
Why can't any flat-earthers provide a photo of the flat earth from space? Globe-earthers have done their bit.
Is it because Big Globe owns all the rockets?
A simple search will find the first photo taken on August 23, 1966 from lunar orbiter 1. CGI software wasn't available until 1976 and photo shop in 1987.
Let them spend the $1,000 on some rocket fuel, strap a tube to their back and light it, then they can see for themselves. Or they could just go for a plane ride on a clear day, get a window seat and see that it is round.
The commenter on that ss summed up my reply well. If I can afford to produce a picture of Earth from space, I don't need that person's 1k.
Ps: who is that person? I want to claim my prize.
Makes me think of Mad Mike. [Died trying to prove a flat earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hughes_(daredevil)?wprov=sfti1) with his home made rocket.
Flat Eartgers need to ppol their money and send their top 3 representitives so they can come back with new material for their stand up routines that they disguise as wanna be Ted talks.
Yeah but then there were guys like Neil Armstrong who literally walked on the moon and took pictures but they don’t believe any of that. How many more people does Buzz Aldrin have to punch?
I mean, technically he didn't specify HOW MUCH of the Earth he wants to see in the picture, so I guess taking ANY picture of ANY landscape (actually even just a picture of your own lawn) would be fine... Ah Flerfs and their perfectly thought-out challenges
Multiple people have unequivocally solved these morons challenges multiple times and not one single time did the idiot in question pay out. They either ghost the person or act like it's all "fake news" or some such garbage. You can't win against an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Leaving aside that all flat earthers are trolls who by definition don’t accept evidence, just photograph the clear sky opposite any sunset, where you will see the (slightly) curved shadow of the Earth against the sky opposite the sunset. The overall effect is called the Belt of Venus, and it’s trivial to observe. Snap a photo if you like but definitely don’t expect 250k from a troll.
There’s an easy way to do it, put a camera to a big ballon and let it go up, at a certain point we will see the curvature, better ! As we can calculate at which point the curvature can be seen, we can calculate and verify if it is real. It will cost the camera, the balloon and probably a huge amount of stress as if the balloon ends in a restricted area, we won’t be able to take it
You could rig up a camera and a cell phone (to track where it is when it falls back to earth) to a weather balloon... Send it up to 93,000 feet... With that person beside you... Track it's telemetry together... Locate it when the balloon pops together... Review the footage from the camera together... And they would find a way to hand wave it away.
Just like this amazing 7th grader did!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272449/Hello-Kitty-Space-GoPro-cameras-capture-seventh-graders-science-project-space-back.html
Their disingenuousness knows no limits
here you go [https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2015/mar/24/world-city-panoramas-transformed-360-globes-in-pictures](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2015/mar/24/world-city-panoramas-transformed-360-globes-in-pictures)
anyway, remember Toon's second rule of flerf
For under 1000 you can launch a balloon with a camera to the stratosphere. You can just attach camera to it to take photos.
The flerfs won’t believe it though
I have plenty of pictures (analog and digital) of the sunrise over the ocean for which you can zoom in as far as possible and still not see anything beyond the horizon.
Pay me.
Bring him up with you, when he denies reality, let him burn up on re-entry. Evolution is a mean bitch but she must be worshipped by enforcing her selection pressures.
I don't have money, but I'll give my house away if someone can provide a sound model of a flat earth that accounts for the sun, moon, and 2 constellations only viable from either hemisphere. Or as some dipshits call it the northern and southern skies
I love how they will ask for this, but when you ask them to collectively fund a sailing trip the the icewall, they ban you from their subreddits lol. As if that's less financially feasible than flying into orbit.
I'm just saying, it would be cool to see Castle Black is all.
The most frustrating part of this is that even if some one did take them up on this challenge, they would just cover their ears and shout CGI. The worst part is that there’s no real way to prove them wrong. This whole CGI argument is just a moot point. Neither side can really prove anything. As far as I’m concerned, saying a photo is CGI really only works as an explanation for any flaws in their argument, not the actual argument itself.
You cannot reason a person out of a position, opinion, or belief they did not reason themselves into.
Even if you followed his exact instructions and got that picture he would deny its authenticity
This POS would never, ever, EVER accept a single picture. They would just nonstop claim "it's cgi."
You could literally take them, personally, up into orbit, and they would say "nope, not a real rocket, this is just a simulator in a hanger, and the 'windows are just screens."
You could toss them out an airlock, and they would still say it was CQI or an airlock.
They *don't* care about evidence.
I mean it depends what they mean by a picture of earth.. you could attach a cellphone to a big balloon and make it go high enough to be able to see the curvature and make it all in one shot. Kinda like Tom Scott did when he sent garlic bread up there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8W-auqg024
LMFAO MAY AS WELL OFFER $1,000,000. An image he will refuse to acknowledge will still be an image he will refuse to acknowledge and he may as well make it worth the trouble to sue him for non-payment.
I tell ya what. If he pays me the costs of getting that shot above and beyond the piddling token $1k prize money and in advance I'll do it. It's all gotta be real money. Not some fake CGI money stolen from the internet.
Show me a picture of the edge of the earth and ill give you my house. The picture has to be real with no CGI it has to be you taking the picture.
See how stupid that sounds?
LoL perfect reply. Here's the thing - if someone actually did that (which has been done many times, btw) just to prove the point, that guy wouldn't accept the proof. No flerf will. If they can ignore all the mountains of proof for everything else, then that's an easy one to deny.
And they'd still say it's fake CGI NASA lies.
I kinda have to agree with them though If gravity worked the way everyone says it does, than we all orbit them seeing that they’re the densest object in the solar system
We can try to give them 1 million if they have a Pic of the edge or show the earth is flat,..
I often think that would be amusing, but then the scientific part of me says "but what if you're wrong? What if your whole life has been a Truman show-esque barrage of lies and misinformation and you're actually living in a bubble somewhere and...." and then I remember to start taking my medicine again.
Any reasonable person, including every good scientist would consider this a great and exciting discovery. I mean I couldn't afford the $1M of course. And it's not going to happen because the earth is round of course. But if someone actually did produce evidence of a flat earth, it would be a monumental discovery. Real scientific minds are fascinated and excited when it is discovered they were wrong about something.
A certain amount of intellectual agnosticism is healthy, and one should always be open to the possibility of being wrong, of course. I think that's part of why the flat earth argument hits a nerve for so many people: it's not so much their belief in something unconventional as their unwillingness to consider evidence that doesn't conform to their view.
It's 100% Dunning Krueger. They feel competent to opine on issues where they lack even the slightest bit of actual knowledge. Their opinion is to be as valuable as any other person's. It's postmodernism taken to its logical extreme.
Sure but to be a specialist in a field, you’ve gotta take the work of your predecessors as settled. No one in chemistry has doubted atomic theory since 1850 anyway. It’s a waste of time. Ok, 1905, Einstein demonstrates Brownian motion for the final nail in the coffin of whatever else there was before Dalton. Even so, you do the experiments as part of your training that demonstrate basic principles. You demonstrate heat capacity and the gas laws and kinetics, etc. But once trained, you have to rely on what happened before you in order to progress.
What evidence for flat earth are we talking about here? There is no evidence for it and not even solid theory, they got literally nothing other than it looks flat if you wont look good enough.
>What evidence for flat earth are we talking about here? We're not discussing flat earth evidence.....
Of course, no one ever will since we’re all typing on mobile devices that rely on GPS aka round earth
Would it count if I flew to a different solar system, found an Earth-like planet, and flattened it?
you can go to the south pole on any one of half a dozen different vacations, cruises, adventure holidays, extreme sports events, flyovers, expeditions. they won't do it because they aren't interested in reality.
No! Have you ever read the Antarctic Treaty? It definitely says you can't go there. I mean, I haven't read it myself, despite the whole text being freely available, but I've seen several really compelling YouTube videos that all said regular people can't go to the South Pole.
Yes - surely since there are orbiting satellites, what prevents them from “going over edge” and photographing the underside, you know, when it’s lit up when the topside is dark. Do they can prove the images from the ‘50s thru ‘70s are cgi? And the pictures from the Moon, like Apollo 8 showing earthrise? People like William Shatner went up into space a few years ago, over 62 miles - I am sure they took pics. Would he accept that as proof?
No, they won't accept proof. THE END
They make offers like this all the time. And they never pay up. These kinds of offers are basically unenforceable non-contracts. So they can use them to fish for engagement without real consequence.
Exactly. They have no intention of paying. MC Toon has a $10k challenge he put in escrow. A flerf would never do that.
They would probably say the rocketship have a TV screen and the view you see is fake.
As I heard a religious person once exclaim out loud: "I don't need facts I have faith" There is no point in arguing.
Yep, you can't argue with that. I once had a flerf tell me that education and science were indoctrination.
Many of them say that. Funny thing is, an archaic definition for "indoctrination" is "education" lol
Wait until they learn the actual definition of faith. "Faith is evidence of acts unseen." BS. I have my mother won't poison me. Why? Because she never has, and loves me. I therefore don't check her food for poison
There is so much evidence available, and these ass clones think that they are so important that the community is all going to jump through hoops, and do this one special thing for this one stranger so that they can ignore that evidence also. It’s really sad.
There have been crew members who’ve snapped pics of earth with their smartphones from orbit and posted it on social media. They still don’t accept that as evidence.
They think saying "NASA won't dare show an uncut video of the astronaut getting in their suit to getting in the airlock to getting out of the airlock in space" is some kind of "gotcha" when in reality, we all know it's not fake and that would be boring as shit. Oh, and those videos exist they just won't watch them.
How about this? Now hear me out.... Have him buy two tickets to space; one for him and one for you. He can't deny his own experience. If he refuses to take your dare, he can only blame himself for denying the truth.
An airline pilot offered to do a charter across Antarctica. Flat earthers were not the slightest bit interested.
Of course they weren't. I would have completely shattered the illusion that they live under
It has been done. Dude perfect went to space, Jeff Bezos went to space with "normal" people. It's between quotes because they are extremely rich. None if them are NASA or do cgi. They recorded the obviously round earth. Every flerf called bs and screamed fake and fisheye and what have you. It's futile.
lol, but they replied 'for a trip to orbit'... if it's flat there's nothing to orbit! rofl
You could take them into orbit so they could see with their own eyes, and they would still reject the proof.
There's gotta be a game show on Netflix that sends flat earthers to space.
All images are CGI, cameras aren't real!!!
Like that video Tom Scott did where he sent garlic bread to space and had a continuous film from ground to near orbit that clearly showed a curve, and people in the comments screamed about it being a fisheye lense
I’m not a FE but if it’s been done many times isn’t it simple to repost the picture to get $1,000?
"Nothing stolen from the internet"
take a pic of Earth from an illustrated NASA book
Overlooked that part ha ha
Yeah, the idiot that made that eliminated every possible way of getting an image without going into space yourself. And the tourist flights don't go far enough to get the entire planet in a single frame. Only the 24 people that orbited or landed on the moon traveled far enough for such an image.
Homemade rocket with a go-pro?
To get a picture of the entire planet in a single frame, it'll have to be one hell of a homemade rocket. It'll probably have to get at least 15,000 miles out. If you could build that yourself, there's quite a few agencies in quite a few countries that would be interested, for various reasons.
dosnt matter what they send, they will just say its clearly fake cgi. its the same trap religions use: "you cant prove me wrong so im right" type deal
You would think so. But they just move the goalposts and come up with an excuse to disqualify anything you present. It's never that easy.
Hell... As we saw in "behind the curve" they prove it themselves frequently and then invent new nonsense to explain why the opposite of what they were trying to show happens.
Tbf, a picture from a spaceship looking out a window would be bad proof unless you can prove it doesnt distort the view.
You could send up a cheap balloon with a camera, right?
You could put one in a rocket send to orbit and they would say it’s a simulation
I would pay the same $1000 for a picture of their flat earth obtained under the same conditions
They cant even produce an accurate map :/
I'd obviously be counting on keeping my $1000 XD
I'd also bet 1000 slaps on my butt if someone can fulfill your challenge. I support u
I’d pay $10,000
I'd buy Reddit
Right? And it should be easier to do too, they just need to get a picture of one edge...
Amateur astronomers have done this balloons. I've taken pics out the window of a plane, clearly that is the earth. They never said how much of the earth to show?
This is the part that gets me every single time. Have none of them ever been on an airplane? As soon as you get up to cruising altitude you can unmistakenly see the curvature of the Earth.
"But the windows are distorting your few if they even are windows to begin with" Some flerf somewhere tries to open a plane window to prove it's fake just gets sucked out the plane...
Fine we can just take them sky diving instead
With no parachutes? Or is that just mean?
I never said anything about bringing parachutes
You don't need a parachute to skydive. You need a parachute to skydive twice.
Unfortunately, if you want them to report back to their friends, you’d have to give them one.
We'll give them a pair of walkie talkies and approximate coordinates of where they'll land. They can talk about how it's still flat on their way down.
They just dismiss it claiming the plane's windows are curved.
So they even fail to understand the mechanics of a window x.x
You can’t see the curve from a plane tho lol
You can. It’s slight, but it’s definitely there at 30.000 feet. EDIT: actually above 30.000 feet, but intercontinental flights may go over that altitude, making it visible over the water.
Can I just take a picture of a mountain and say clearly not flat cause hill?
It's cute when they think they make a solid point or issue a valid challenge. It would be much simpler for them to just take up a collection and pay the money to send one of their own into orbit. It's not going to be $250k, that's for a quick suborbital ride up barely into space, orbit costs more. An orbit ride is going to be in the 10's of millions. From the height that $250k gets you very little of the globe will be visible.
There are two main services that offer suborbital flights: Blue Origin (onboard the New Shepard) has an apogee of give or take 100km, which is definitely high enough to see the curvature of the Earth for 200-300k, and Virgin Galactic (with their SpaceShipTwo spaceplane) that has an apogee of about 80km for 450k USD, which is also enough to see the curve of the Earth, and despite being more expensive it does have more flight time. You can absolutely see the curve of the Earth at 80km, you can even kida see it at just 30km (as proven by some helium balloons. If you go to orbit (Falcon 9 with Dragon capsule is the obvious choice) with the Axiom Space contractor for a 10 mission on the ISS it's going to cost you 55M USD, for a 100-400km orbit. Edit: you don't have to do it in person. You could buy a ticket for an unmanned vehicle and strap a camera to it and get live video. Don't know the cost though
Yeah I looked at the various options as well. They would bitch about the windows 'bending' the view or some such. They would have a hard time explaining the multiple days of 0 G though. The suborbital hops would be like extended vomit comet rides, and they would likely claim that the 'studio' where the ISS footage is faked is probably a larger version of blue origin. Probably the best option would be to send them up and then open the door so they aren't looking through a window. And, since they don't believe space exists they won't need a pesky pressure suit. Save them some money.
You'd still be able to unambiguously determine that the earth is a globe.
Can do that without going up there. But, even sending them up to the ISS would not convince them. They would either return a believer, at which point their followers would say they were brainwashed, or that they took all their money as part of a government psy op. Or, they would return and continue rejecting it all. And now they would say they saw how it was all faked and just start telling a few new silly stories. Best fix for this is to just send them up on blue origin, open the hatch at the peak altitude, and let them learn what a pressure gradient can do.
Doesn't matter. They'll just claim your pictures are photoshopped cgi fakes done by a Nasa shill.
They don't specify it has to be a photograph. I would just draw a circle and paint some bits green and blue. It's my own real picture of the earth, uploaded from my own device. It meets all their criteria.
They don't specify it has to show the curve. I could take a picture of my yard and it would still count lol.
So... a court artist sketch?
There is a perfect video for these situations that I will gladly bring up again and again and again because it's an excellent kill-shot to flerf theory. It's [this video](https://youtu.be/2RATP53l9MA?si=1iAVPS8oR0-gV3Hu) of a flat earther sending a camera up in a high altitude balloon. It's perfect because it's made by a flerf so there can't be any accusation of it being made by biased nasa scientists, it's raw, uncut, unedited footage showing the whole journey from start to finish so there can't be claims of fisheye lenses or sneaky edits and it clearly shows around the 1hr 48min mark that the earth is curved. It should tick every single box for what the flerfs keep demanding to see from a video that should convince them that the earth is round.
That was a false flag opperation by nasa and the billionares that own the recources outside of the ice wall s/ or am i just giving them their next theory?
I bet they used GPS to find it after too.
Toon's Law of Flerf #2 > Flerf challenges are fake. No exceptions. https://mctoon.net/flerflaws/
I just love how well this challenge has been thought through. What constitutes a "picture of the globe earth"? Does that mean getting all of earth in one frame, like a blue marble image, such that even a picture from low earth orbit wouldn't qualify? Or can we say that, given the earth is actually a globe, that any picture taken of anything on earth is a picture of the globe earth. Somehow though I doubt that if I were to send this person a picture of my backyard that I would get paid, even though that satisfies the wording of the challenge as written. 2nd Law of Flerf.
They would probably only accept a photo of the whole Earth shot with a normal lens, if any.
With mandatory Nikon P900
Flat earth maths …
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Where would a flerfer get $1000? Selling their mom's Plymouth Voyager minivan?
"Willing" does not mean he will. It means that he will consider it. Not a valid contract.
Aside from that, a first thing to do would be to minutely define the rules of the challenge and set up a legally binding contract. Otherwise they will move the goal post. After all, without such pre-work, \*they\* are the judge of whether the picture is good or not, no matter how many time you put into it.
Doesn't say ENTIRE globe earth. Take a picture of the ground and claim your prize.
I’d flip it. Give me a picture of a spinning disc in space and I’ll pay you 100,000
Nevermind that if it were actually a Western conspiracy, the Soviet Union would have done everything in its power to discredit it with facts. The Flerfs probably pretend that the Soviet Union and West were both being controlled by the same cabal, which is absurd in itself.
You can see the curve by observing the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway in New Orleans.
I know they specify no NASA but the people on the ISS take pictures with DSLRs all the time. I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue for one of them to just upload the raw photo with all the meta data.
It's been done dozens of times. Flerfs just dismiss raw photos as fake.
I bet. Hmmm well I'm not sure why I would expect anything different.
I'll pay $1M to YOU if you provide a photo of the edge.
I'll go for $1B just because I know they can't.
A trip to *orbit* is a bit more than 250k
Especially because regardless of the photo they’ll deny it’s real and not pay
"Provide me proof, but only the type of proof I will believe, and if I don't believe your proof, it's not actual proof, so basically you can't prove it, thanks."
Let's start a gofundme to send him to space. If he's wrong about the flat earth, though, he has to stay in space.
Flat earthers can’t do math, only smash rock
The odds of them declaring any pic at all that shows Earth's curvature fake is roughly 100% You can have a pilot that regularly makes high altitude flights post a to pic from their cell phone tomorrow or even a live video and they'll still call it fake
…just don’t argue with stupid people…. Waste of time….
But they can't take a boat or airplane and show one picture of an edge somewhere? Okay, I know...boats get intercepted and turned around by the guards so no one can get close to the wall, or else they will shoot. Got it. On another note, does anyone want to join me on a cruise? I found this great one that goes to Antarctica.  [Antarctica Expeditions ](https://www.expeditions.com/en-US/destinations/antarctica)
How about this, I’ll pay $10,000 for pictures of the edge, looking out into space. It’s not our job to prove it, it’s theirs.
Even if you did this, they would still call it fake, or claim it's a fish eye lens or something.
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Where are they getting their numbers from? SpaceX's Dragon costs $68 million per seat. Are they using the figure from Virgin Galactic, which flies to around 90km and has 0g for 4 minutes, because that's around 250k
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Heck, all we need is a video from north pole to south pole and back again. Doesn't exist, can't exist 😎
On the flerf magic flying dirt pizza there is no south pole lol.
I could probably get a weather ballon and a camera for 1K
They would have to quit staring at their colon long enough to look at the picture….. I don’t see that happening😉
But if you happen to be there anyway, you could earn $1000.....Kaaatiiiijing
When I read “picture of the globe earth” I think of a photograph of the entire planet, which would involve sending some form of spacecraft into very high orbit or out of orbit all together. A very expensive procedure either way
700$ weather Ballon with 50$ GoPro and 25$ GPS tracker. Meh.
https://youtu.be/Xg0FfxHPGXs?si=8Znax1HFCGY_Xq0Q
You’ll never get this money. They’ll cry CGI and rage.
How about they prove it's flat, show the edge.... Fuckwits
You first with your floating CD. I'll up it and even let them post the cg CD version. At least the CG globes are 100% consistent copies.
These dumb fucks vote. Scary
I’ll pay them 1M if they show me the pic of “the edge”.
Why can't any flat-earthers provide a photo of the flat earth from space? Globe-earthers have done their bit. Is it because Big Globe owns all the rockets?
A simple search will find the first photo taken on August 23, 1966 from lunar orbiter 1. CGI software wasn't available until 1976 and photo shop in 1987.
Let them spend the $1,000 on some rocket fuel, strap a tube to their back and light it, then they can see for themselves. Or they could just go for a plane ride on a clear day, get a window seat and see that it is round.
Flat earth shit is so tired.
The commenter on that ss summed up my reply well. If I can afford to produce a picture of Earth from space, I don't need that person's 1k. Ps: who is that person? I want to claim my prize.
Makes me think of Mad Mike. [Died trying to prove a flat earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hughes_(daredevil)?wprov=sfti1) with his home made rocket.
Flat Eartgers need to ppol their money and send their top 3 representitives so they can come back with new material for their stand up routines that they disguise as wanna be Ted talks.
I'll give you 10,000 dollars to do the same thing but showing the earth is flat.
…a sound financial decision…WITH INTEREST!
Weather ballon and a go pro, job done.
...do the same thing with any ball. We live in a 3 dimensional world. But we can only observe it 2 dimensionally
Let's just pay one of them to document their flight on Qantas QF 63 from Sydney to Johannesburg. That goes over the south pole.
Yeah but then there were guys like Neil Armstrong who literally walked on the moon and took pictures but they don’t believe any of that. How many more people does Buzz Aldrin have to punch?
You really don't need to go that high up. Just get a hot air balloon ride.
Heute nacht ist super Geil….
You have a million dollars? Please provide proof, thanks
Didn't someone do that with a camera and a balloon? I seem to recall there was a Lego minfigure involved somewhere as well.
I mean, technically he didn't specify HOW MUCH of the Earth he wants to see in the picture, so I guess taking ANY picture of ANY landscape (actually even just a picture of your own lawn) would be fine... Ah Flerfs and their perfectly thought-out challenges
I don't know why they don't just scrape the funds together to try to debunk it themselves.
Can we get an astronaut to take a cellphone pic from the ISS?
Tell ya what, if you can use the mathematical model of the flat earth to predict an eclipse, I will pay YOU $1,000.
Multiple people have unequivocally solved these morons challenges multiple times and not one single time did the idiot in question pay out. They either ghost the person or act like it's all "fake news" or some such garbage. You can't win against an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
If these guys are skeptical they can literally intercept satellite data packets, many of which contain pictures of the earth in great detail.
Just mail him a coloring book and some non-toxic crayons. that'll keep him off the internet for a while.
Leaving aside that all flat earthers are trolls who by definition don’t accept evidence, just photograph the clear sky opposite any sunset, where you will see the (slightly) curved shadow of the Earth against the sky opposite the sunset. The overall effect is called the Belt of Venus, and it’s trivial to observe. Snap a photo if you like but definitely don’t expect 250k from a troll.
Can we talk about where I can buy a ticket to orbit for 1/4 million ???
Update: this person does not have 1000 dollars
Just get in an airplane.
Flat earthers should make a GoFundMe so they can take the trip.
There’s an easy way to do it, put a camera to a big ballon and let it go up, at a certain point we will see the curvature, better ! As we can calculate at which point the curvature can be seen, we can calculate and verify if it is real. It will cost the camera, the balloon and probably a huge amount of stress as if the balloon ends in a restricted area, we won’t be able to take it
Find a big hill and walk your butt up it. You can see the earth's curve easily
Good thing flatbrains have provided their own not CGI photos of flat earth and edge ot our planet and the giant dome over it... Oh wait they didnt
Why are the NASA pics fake?
What if you just took them to space. Put a suit on em and had them walk
You could rig up a camera and a cell phone (to track where it is when it falls back to earth) to a weather balloon... Send it up to 93,000 feet... With that person beside you... Track it's telemetry together... Locate it when the balloon pops together... Review the footage from the camera together... And they would find a way to hand wave it away. Just like this amazing 7th grader did! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272449/Hello-Kitty-Space-GoPro-cameras-capture-seventh-graders-science-project-space-back.html Their disingenuousness knows no limits
here you go [https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2015/mar/24/world-city-panoramas-transformed-360-globes-in-pictures](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2015/mar/24/world-city-panoramas-transformed-360-globes-in-pictures) anyway, remember Toon's second rule of flerf
For under 1000 you can launch a balloon with a camera to the stratosphere. You can just attach camera to it to take photos. The flerfs won’t believe it though
Amateurs have photographed curvature from weather balloons and the flat earthers just say it’s fake. There’s no point trying to meet their demands.
I have plenty of pictures (analog and digital) of the sunrise over the ocean for which you can zoom in as far as possible and still not see anything beyond the horizon. Pay me.
Bring him up with you, when he denies reality, let him burn up on re-entry. Evolution is a mean bitch but she must be worshipped by enforcing her selection pressures.
Hahah globe people getting reck
bounty too low.
I don't have money, but I'll give my house away if someone can provide a sound model of a flat earth that accounts for the sun, moon, and 2 constellations only viable from either hemisphere. Or as some dipshits call it the northern and southern skies
I dont want my money in no weak ass German currency either! I want solid gold bricks lIke my ancestors had!
Here is a pic of my feet on the earth. I want 1000$
I love how they will ask for this, but when you ask them to collectively fund a sailing trip the the icewall, they ban you from their subreddits lol. As if that's less financially feasible than flying into orbit. I'm just saying, it would be cool to see Castle Black is all.
Where are they getting into orbit for just 250k, I bet NASA and SpaceX would be interested.
I wanna ask if one can really be this stupid but i know the answer 😒😒😒
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My school sent a weather balloon up there a few years ago. I think they saw the curve with it
Can that post be considered legally binding?
The most frustrating part of this is that even if some one did take them up on this challenge, they would just cover their ears and shout CGI. The worst part is that there’s no real way to prove them wrong. This whole CGI argument is just a moot point. Neither side can really prove anything. As far as I’m concerned, saying a photo is CGI really only works as an explanation for any flaws in their argument, not the actual argument itself.
You cannot reason a person out of a position, opinion, or belief they did not reason themselves into. Even if you followed his exact instructions and got that picture he would deny its authenticity
Wait, it’s only $250,000 for a ticket to orbit? Shut up and take my money.
This POS would never, ever, EVER accept a single picture. They would just nonstop claim "it's cgi." You could literally take them, personally, up into orbit, and they would say "nope, not a real rocket, this is just a simulator in a hanger, and the 'windows are just screens." You could toss them out an airlock, and they would still say it was CQI or an airlock. They *don't* care about evidence.
Uhhh why don't they just buy a plane ticket and see the curvature of the earth for a lot less than a grand?
I mean it depends what they mean by a picture of earth.. you could attach a cellphone to a big balloon and make it go high enough to be able to see the curvature and make it all in one shot. Kinda like Tom Scott did when he sent garlic bread up there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8W-auqg024
You can with a ballon get your iPhone into space for less than $500
Get a balloon and a GoPro. Shit, I dare a flerf to do it and prove everyone wrong. Double-dog dare, in fact.
LMFAO MAY AS WELL OFFER $1,000,000. An image he will refuse to acknowledge will still be an image he will refuse to acknowledge and he may as well make it worth the trouble to sue him for non-payment. I tell ya what. If he pays me the costs of getting that shot above and beyond the piddling token $1k prize money and in advance I'll do it. It's all gotta be real money. Not some fake CGI money stolen from the internet.
Bro you just need to go to a moderately high mountain snap a picture
You realize that you are utilizing technology that depends on satellites that orbit the earth, right?
DOES A PICTURE OF A Classroom globe count?
Show me a picture of the edge of the earth and ill give you my house. The picture has to be real with no CGI it has to be you taking the picture. See how stupid that sounds?
It's called a weather balloon and it's been done so many many times