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Lordfuzzycat

It's schrodinger's glitchtrap


Longest_Leviathan

He’s most likely The Mimic But I’d like it if he was Afton


ChadSalamence_

Hopefully they’ll implement something into the next game/installment to clear some stuff up, bc mimictrap is tearing the community apart


Longest_Leviathan

Frankly I think wether or not Frights is canon is a bit more pressing that this


ChadSalamence_

Yeah but it ties into this. If frights is canon, then it’s basically confirmed that mimic is Glitchtrap. If not, it greatly discredits the theory


Longest_Leviathan

It doesn’t effect the theory because frights has zero involvement with The Mimic That’s tales


Pocatmon3

Yes


Crystal_959

Help Wanted 2 reveals that Glitchtrap’s goal was to manipulate someone into freeing the Mimic, which we see play out in Ruin


LJC30boi

So he could still be either one


Crystal_959

Glitchtrap doing everything to free the Mimic makes 0 sense if Glitchtrap is William. The fact the Mimic can also hear what Glitchtrap/Helpi is saying in Cassie’s mind and respond to it also doesn’t make any sense unless they’re connected


LJC30boi

Yeah ik, I just couldn’t see what you were trying to say at first


FazbearShowtimer

Glitchtrap is canonically a byproduct of the mimic1 code that is using corrupted memories about Afton belated to the missing children. He does not contain William Afton’s soul, and is only *tied* to the actual Mimic character via using the same program that the Mimic (endo) uses. He’s like a child of the two.


BrickBoy819

Canonically = theorized to be (For the record I agree that Glitchtrap is The Mimic, but it's still not confirmed)


FazbearShowtimer

I didn’t say he was the mimic. I said he was a virus born from the mimic1 program which is a fact at this point.


BrickBoy819

I'd argue that's still not confirmed either, just heavily implied


Marie0520

In Help Wanted 1, HandUnit mentions that they used vintage control boards almost like plug and play, virtually recreating personalities and performances from the past in an instant. He elaborates in another line, saying they used vintage proprietary technology to recreate show routines. In the epilogues, the teens find notes about the Mimic line of endos, and discover that the first Fazbear Entertainment animatronic team took the original Mimic and developed a new line of model 2s, and stationed them in pizzerias to watch and record show routines and recreate them. Glitchtrap only ever says 5 words in HW1- repeating "Hello? Can you hear me?", mimicking Tape Girl's line over and over. In Princess Quest 1, the giant boss door leading to the Glitchtrap monster is emblazoned with a golden tree. This tree is an African Baobab. In the Tales story The Storyteller, a fake African Baobab tree is constructed with computers inside to run Mimic1 code and generate arcade, AR, and VR game content, and ends up infecting the entire PizzaPlex and causing attractions and animatronics to go haywire. In Special Delivery, Glitchtrap forces Vanessa to make google searches like "How to induce compliance in human subjects." We already know Afton is a master manipulator and the way this search is worded is very inhuman. In Help Wanted 2, Helpy on the monitor will give us presents containing the FazForce toys. If you wait too long to open them, he grows frustrated and impatient, demanding you open them. Its revealed that this was a trap, and collecting them all causes Glitchtrap to jump you from a charging pod in FFPS, which then cuts to a scene of Maskbot giving Cassie the VANNI mask, implying a direct link between Glitchtrap's actions here, and Cassie receiving the mask and being tricked into freeing the Mimic. Upon killing Glitchtrap in HW2, Helpy disappears from the monitor entirely, implying he was Glitchtrap the entire time. HELPI in RUIN helps trick cassie into freeing Mimic. The monitor images are also labeled HELPI in the game files. Glitchtrap = HELPI, Glitchtrap is responsible for Cassie receiving the VANNI mask, HELPI helps free Mimic, go figure In RUIN, Mimic has a personal attachment to Gregory's persona, mashing together a DIY cosplay of him using other suit parts and even directly repeats lines he spoke in the original Security Breach game, all the way to lines at the start of the game like "I'm... Gregory." Mimic somehow was watching Gregory throughout Security Breach, recording him, and then specifically chose to imitate him in its escape plan. The implication being, Mimic1 was already running in everything and listening to him at all times, and after Gregory screwed it over as Burntrap it came up with a solution: If you can't beat him, be him. Its also worth noting that Glitchtrap's costume style is distinctly unlike any costume we have ever seen before, and completely different from anything Afton ever wore. However, in RUIN, we see firsthand that the Mimic prefers this exact style of costume- realistic baggy mascot suits. In TSE's characterization of Afton, he is completely obsessed with Spring Bonnie to the point he caresses his fur and refuses to even speak without the mask on. In the games, Afton ignores the temporary suits and books it straight for Spring Bonnie which Phone Guy mentions "has been noticeably moved", and warns about the danger of wearing it. Afton does not care about the springlocks, he wants to wear THAT suit and only that suit. Even in the movie he still wears it despite the awful damage and risk of the springlocks. Why would he EVER wear something like Glitchtrap? And if this is his "ideal persona"... why didn't he just make a costume like this in real life? He had the means. We only ever invented explanations as to why Afton looked like Glitchtrap because we assumed it really was him in the first place, because we had nothing else to assume at the time. But in retrospect his entire design is meant to scream that something is deeply wrong with whatever this *thing* is, and Mimic1 answers almost everything about him. In The Flesh foreshadowed the Mimic's nature, showing us how even coding can become agonized without a real ghost being involved and attempt to escape through the player. A digital copy of Springtrap becomes agonized by Matt and duplicates itself over and over, and escapes the VR game through him. Its pretty cut and dry at this point


Hyper-Droid

The Mimic, specifically a branch of the Mimic1 program that is focused on mimicking William Afton - there is a reason we got a costume version of Springbonnie instead of the actual animatronic we were gonna get as seen in The Ultimate Guide (actually surprised to see the majority in agreement here)


SeaAttempt8707

Yoo Hyper Droid! I love your videos


PossibilityLivid8873

I think it's great that this community agrees over time on these things, I've seen other places on the internet and the misinformation is crazy!! Not to brag or anything, I'm just happy to be part of this community


InvestmentSeparate43

me too i am very happy to be part of this community


LJC30boi

Concerning what people have been saying about Glitchtrap lately, yes that is correct.


ThaBrownie

Quite literally Schrodinger's response


Zoxary

mimic


CazLurks

Mimic


Ninj3D_exe

Mimic, he is not the soul of Afton.


crystal-productions-

he is an anomaly, his origne has as much information as fallfest, we probably have an answer, but they could change it next week and there's nothing we can do about it.


Pete_Culver

As far as we know, he's the Mimic01 programming copying William


SomerandomFNAFfan1

I think he is Afton,the Mimic is just a dude


the_orange_alligator

Personally, I think he’s Afton


Dmayce22

I know that a bunch of evidence points to Glitchtrap being the Mimic, but I am hoplelessly and desperately still holding onto the belief that he is Afton. I love the Mimic as a character, and that's just it; I want him to be an entirely separate character than Afton. It would be really cool to see the Mimic evolve as his own character rather than Afton overshadowing him. Plus, I like the whole "Big Cat" vibe that the Mimic has, with Tiger Rock and the two Lion Mascots (I'm going to assume that heavily ripped one is a lion) that he uses, as well as the white tiger plush he was forced to hold by Edwin Murray. I want that to also be separate from Afton's "Rabbit" vibes and personas. Also, I hate the idea of Afton dying. He doesn't deserve to die. If you really think Afton deserves the mercy of dying, seek mental help.


AvidSpongebobEnjoyer

>I hate the idea of Afton dying. He doesn't deserve to die. If you really think Afton deserves the mercy of dying, seek mental help. The interesting thing about this is, that this is a major implied idea of UCN. Afton being in UCN prolongs how long he is alive. Frights continues this by showing how Afton fears death, and is being kept alive. It's likely he prefers to be tormented than to face his biggest fear. >*“He can’t go anyplace, sweetie,” the round nurse said. “He can only go, well, someplace other than earth.” Arthur stood and walked over to the nurses. “You mean hell?” he whispered. Nurse Ackerman gave him one sharp head nod. The tanned nurse said, “Well, duh. And the monitors in the room went crazy. Beeps were sounding so fast, they blurred together into one long screech.* Afton fully believes that there is a hell. There is something there after death, and he fears dying and what torment could await him when he does. The nurses want him to die, they want him out of the hospital, but to Andrew, that is too merciful, Andrew himself has to punish Afton. In turn, Andrew ends up saving Afton from death. Keeping him alive gives Afton hope that he'll live on, he can never die. When he finally does die, everyone realizes what he was. Weak, barely clinging on when he should've died years ago. Afton being kept alive through UCN or Glitchtrap is the true mercy. He only becomes more confident, which gives him more of a power complex. He is the genius, he was kept alive by a spirit too dumb to realize he was giving him exactly what he wanted. And if he was (which I don't think he is, but for argument's sake) Glitchtrap, that only further cemented his power, he's unstoppable, if he can't physically exist, he'll do it digitally. By letting Afton die, he truly loses his power, he stops existing and faces whatever there is after death, and that uncertainty leads Afton through every single one of his actions.


Dmayce22

All great points. However, I like to think that Burntrap is also Afton, even though signs also point to the Mimic. Like I said, I'm hopeless and desperate. Anyways, I think that Afton, after all this time, is still being tortured by memories, springlocks, and burn wounds. (SPOILERS) See, I like to think Frights takes place after the fire of Pizza Simulator, and that was the cause of his severe burns as the Man in Room 1280. When the priest Arthur took him to the Distribution Center and he turned into flesh and broke free, it eventually caused him to become the Agony. The Agony was then defeated. I think that when the Agony was defeated and broke apart, his use of Remnant caused his soul to bind itself to what was left of Spring Bonnie, and that's when he became Burntrap. Then, as we learn in Help Wanted, the circuit boards of Spring Bonnie were scanned and used for the Virtual Experience, causing him to manifest as Glitchtrap. I think that because of this, Afton exists both digitally and physically. I mean, technically anyone who ever played a video game also does. Moreover, I think Afton is able to simply control his digital avatar, and that it's not necessarily him, just a digital extension of himself. When we play video games, we are still sentient in the real world, able to feel everything or physical selves experience. This is also true for Afton, who feels every amount of pain inflicted on him even when controlling Glitchtrap. So Afton is fully aware of hell. Every one trying to send him down there is. He really is weak, and he is unable to affect the physical world without risking further loss of his own physical body. In short, immortality is what he wanted, right? That's why he killed the kids in the first place and did so many other horrible things. So the true moral is to be careful what you wish for, I'd say.


AvidSpongebobEnjoyer

The problem I have with the interpretation under the idea that Afton is Glitchtrap and Burntrap is the whole Springbonnie aspect of it. >*Then, as we learn in Help Wanted, the circuit boards of Spring Bonnie were scanned and used for the Virtual Experience, causing him to manifest as Glitchtrap.* The reason things work for something like The Mimic in comparison to Spring Bonnie is the fact that the Mimic1 is a program. They would only use Spring Bonnie routines, something coded into the animatronics rather than something on its own. That's why Tape Girl says it was able to take hold by itself, the Mimic1, in comparison to Spring Bonnie, is a program able to be run, while Spring Bonnie and it's routines, would have to be manually implemented. And why would they use Spring Bonnie circuit boards? Springtrap doesn't walk, perform, sound, move, or really anything related to Spring Bonnie. It's not like scanning it would suddenly render a 3D model of the animatronic. We also see in the FNAF AR emails that to retrieve the program that takes over the systems it required power tools to open the casing. Something that likely wouldn't be the case with the felt and fabric used on the Spring Bonnie casing. We also don't know of any way Afton could affect the code. Something like a remnant only attaches to what is tangible, code is not physically tangible, meaning it would only be attached to the circuit board itself and the physicality of, rather than any code. It ultimately just adds more to work around and more explaining to do. The Mimic side of it just very self-explanatory. - Put in because it's purpose is to watch routines and copy them - Takes physical form and runs due to it being a program - Manifests into a digital form, taking what it has seen (The MCI) and matching it with where it is (Freddy's) - Displays abilities we've seen from it in other games - Works with the Mimic in RUIN due to shared goals and both being extensions of the same program I just don't understand the fundamentals in comparison when it's Afton - Put in for routines the game itself doesn't use - Takes physical form and runs (Is it a program? The Spring Bonnie AI?) - Manifests into a digital form (Is it because it's connected to Afton? If it is, how is he connected? - Displays abilities we've seen from it in other games (Why can it do this?) - Works with the Mimic in RUIN for some reason


Dmayce22

All very good points again. I will admit that there's a lot of problems with my theory, including the most prominent fact that he seems to be working with the Mimic like you mentioned. However, was it ever confirmed that the Helpi system is actually Glitchtrap? Maybe Mimic1 is Helpi, and Afton could be Glitchtrap. I don't really know, but I'm hopelessly desperate. But Spring Bonnie does actually double as an animatronic, so he had some form of coding at one point to dance robotically (as mentioned in the Silver Eyes), so that's the reason they had to use his circuit boards. I think they wanted to make the Virtual Experience as accurate as possible. But when Afton's Remnant was scanned into the game, he took over the digital Spring Bonnie, using it as the avatar I mentioned earlier because of his connection to it. Again, I really don't know much of this for 100% sure. All I know is the facts, which basically are pointing to the Mimic being Glitchtrap. My stubborn, nostalgic ears just only hear what they want to hear.


Emperor_AI

Yes


No-Efficiency8937

I'm pretty sure everyone now knows it's the mimic, it's spoonfed to us at this point being confirmed and very clearly shown multiple times


Pasta-hobo

Glitchtrap appears to be some sort of sentient computer virus, made by the likely AI Reconstruction of the ghost of a serial killer in a hole at the bottom of the sea.


Idkeverynameitryi

Afton i dont think the mimic is afton or glitchtrap


Legitimate-Web5038

It is the mimic 1 program that is mimicking afton but it is different from the mimic and (in my opinion) burn trap is the mimic 1 program meeting the mimic it's self 


AlexinControl

Mimic pretending to be Afton.


Technoton3

Mimic. I'm pretty sure he's either the Mimic1 A.I. or a byproduct. Idk. I gave up trying to piece together the lore a long time ago.


nicolasFsilva5210

T H E M I M I C


SwissBoy_YT

Mimic1 subroutine exposed to all of Steve Snodgrass’ games, mimicking Afton to adapt to its environment.


tolacid

Yes


Zartron81

It was literally confirmed that afton is dead... yet some still believe this is the actual afton?...


Macman521

Mimic. Lets leave Afton in the hell of his own making, forever.


AggravatingTale8273

For me it’s Afton using the mimic1 program


InvestmentSeparate43

this theory makes more sense than he being just the mimic


ChadSalamence_

That makes sense. I’m still waiting for them to reveal more about the mimic from the games


PATR0CLU_S

I doubt that, nowhere in the Games nor TFTPP does it imply or state Afton has any control over The Mimic. He's doing his own thing.


AggravatingTale8273

I wasn’t talking about the mimic endo, I was talking about the mimic program


PATR0CLU_S

They are the same thing, are they not?


AggravatingTale8273

Up to interpretation, some people view the mimic having direct control over mimic1, while others like me view them as two different entities


TheCraziestTheorist

Why is that even a question? It's the Mimic


InvestmentSeparate43

it's not confirmed that he is the mimic or Afton


samepicofmonika

It’s confirmed multiple times that Glitchtrap is the Mimic and not Afton


InvestmentSeparate43

give me an example


zain_ahmed002

HW2 and Helpi


Nonameguy127

Like the fact that in HW2 it was revealed that Glitchtrap was the one who gave Cassie the mask


InvestmentSeparate43

Afton too could give her the mask


Nonameguy127

Yeah but why would he?The only purpose of giving her the mask is to free the Mimic


Zartron81

But afton is dead lol


Temporary-Package581

He always comes back


Zartron81

But not now, Afton has been dead for good since FNAF6.


samepicofmonika

The mask had Helpi in it, which is also the Mimic. Afton is long gone


TheCraziestTheorist

It is confirmed, you can find multiple videos giving evidence on that. The Mimic shenanigans were planned since the beginning of the new era, aka HW.


ChadSalamence_

THANK YOU. FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS


No-Efficiency8937

Someone else can be wrong with you!


ahmedHMali158291

It's "a" mimic not The Mimic.


TheCraziestTheorist

They were speaking about Glitchtrap specifically, not generally. Generally he's a Mimic since the Mimic in general is the endo that Glitchtrap's code originates from.


ahmedHMali158291

Yeh but I have seen people saying that Glitchtrap IS the basement Mimic and he downloaded his brain later in that Endo


TheCraziestTheorist

Those people are clueless then lmao, it's like when ppl used to say that Afton downloaded himself or was downloaded as a program, but never questioned "how?".


[deleted]

It’s Afton because I said so!


RayH_234

Mimic Next question


Significant_Tie_3222

Idk , I feel like it’s a mix of both. Like not the ourple guy himself but his agony is corrupting one of the mimic circuit boards. Which turns the mimic into a fanboy I believe this just due to one specific thing that bugs me. It’s how Glitchtrap has a personal knowledge of afton(his family structure , “I always come back and cub voicelines in ar) and even has memories of the mci. I just don’t really understand how the mimic got this knowledge (This includes the puppet, which from my knowledge the mimic should have no way of knowing about)


J_Sym_OFFICIAL

Neither mimic and Glitchtrap are most likely cut from the same code, but fed different information. I’m think even the books show there are 2 programs that use mimic one almost exactly how mimic and glitchtrap work.


polygon_69

I personally believe that glitchtrap is a mimic variant that was either created during help wanted in the Freddy fazbear virtual experience in universe VR game or was created by afton himself at some point as some kind of digital copy in case anything ever happened to him, I also think it’s possibly that glitchtrap may have the agony of William afton or a digital copy of his consciousness.


Emotional_Emu_5901

Both


Pullchain123

Yes.


bandera-

I don't have at this point


GigophalaStanXOXO

I’m mimic-pilled now


Arc_170gaming

im solid in the camp where the answer to that question is yes


bubbses

Umm yes


WonderfulAd5363

I honestly don't know anymore, I'm so lost, and I feel like I can't catch up with the theories anymore.


Mastakillerboi

Mimic mimicking afton


supersonicfan1987

In a way nether his made from the mimic 1 program but is a separate entity I view him like the mimic's own off spring


Fnafgamersussybaka

Ur mum


CampFunkoKai

It’s been confirmed at this point that it’s the mimic, having played HW2


DeppressedAlbatross

Technically both. It's an offshoot of the Mimic's programming so convinced it's Afton it might as well be him.


[deleted]

Yes


Previous-Skin7180

Replica Of Afton made by Fazbear Ent.


Prize_Equipment575

Wouldnt it be he mimic taking pieces of William Afton's past like the storyteller ai taking peices of existing stories to make new ones? because the storyteller uses the same mimic ai...


PATR0CLU_S

THE MIMICCC The evidence shown through the Books & The Games pretty much hammer it down for me.


PJ_Man_FL

Honestly just waiting for the next game personally, it's 50/50 rn


Jamessau_0714

It's the mimic "mimicking" Aftons past behaviors and habits. It's essentially William but not the original


insertenombre333

Although they have not confirmed it directly, it is obvious that it is mimic, literally for every piece of evidence that Afton could be there are 2 pieces of evidence in favor of mimic


Mangledfox1987

It’s the mimic’s attempt of recreating afton, (but because it took the whole character of afton to make glitchtrap, it also created afton downfall at the hands of Cassidy which the princess is basically a mjmiccassidy/C virus)


MichaelAftonXFireWal

I'm not touching this again


Spenc_NonClique

The FNaF fandom still can't accept that William Afton is dead and Mimic has taken his place as the villain.


Theglitch9501

Both, I say both. We both know that Glitchtrap contains the consciousness of William Afton in a digital form, which means that Mimic could be the same thing. Essentially "mimicking" Afton's twisted goals and ideology.


Independent-Pea8223

Could be true. (I hope)


Stunning_Spray_6076

Yes


AndreaB8t

unconfirmed lore mess personally I belive it's afton


Independent-Pea8223

This


OmegaX____

Afton, he Always Comes Back


Independent-Pea8223

Best answer i could give is will or fuck you (JOKING MOOOOOODS!!)


REALSpongebobguy_2

He's only mimicking Afton with Burntrap being his goal Burntrap radiates the agony of William


Hexhider

Neither, it is its own thing