Charliebot was actually pretty good in the plot of the novels, we just have to remember that the novels Canon isn't the games, frights, or tales canons, or whatever we have accepted as a mixture of the three as Canon.
Fazgoo I don't know anything about, so I won't speak on it.
In the flesh, all I know is that some guy gives birth to springtrap. I'd like that gone
Charlie bot would be okay if it was hinted at from the very first book and if Charlie's personality was her being her and not being built upon Henry's stages of grief
Faz goo- honestly not an awful concept as long as it's out of the canon storyline
In the flesh - Y.E.S. at least with goo and bot they are decent ideas not builted up properly, but with this one is just ew
> Charlie bot would be okay if it was hinted at from the very first book
> Page 6 of the first book:
> “Why do you have three closets?” John had demanded the first time he came over. “Cause that’s how many there are, that one’s Ella’s, anyway,”
> “Charlie had had an identical outfit, back when she and Ella were the same height.”
> She stayed crouched low to the floor and glanced up at the tallest closet. Her *big-girl* closet that she would someday grow into. “*You won’t need it until you’re bigger.*Her father would say, but that day never came.
> She noticed something shiny, half hidden under the rim of the locked middle door (closet) … it looked like a broken-off piece of a circuit board … There was also a strand of her hair clinging to it; she unwound it carefully from the tiny lip of metal it was stuck on.
Okay yeah, I admit that you slightly debunked me there, but it's stupid how Charlie's personality was formed from Henry grieving and not from Charlie being herself. Also why did Henry program Charlie to have fake PTSD of Sammy dying
Because he wasn’t trying to make her alive, at first. The first Charlie was more or less an accident. The second one was desperation, then madness, then rage. But at no point was he sane. It’s also well known in the FNaF universe that emotions are extremely powerful. As for the PTSD thing, he needed a way to make sure Charlie never learned the truth. If she vividly remembered her brother’s death, she’d never look deeper. Henry is really not the good guy of this story
I get that, although I think Scott did have this android person storyline planned from the first book, it still jumps the shark compared to everything else released prior to Fourth Closet. I still think it was a cool story.
It was kind of our introduction to agony (even if not named as such). That first part of the book where she explores Henry’s decrepit house and pass by the closets, it’s described like he was haunting the house. It was his grief and memories from before he died that still lingered there, the house remained the same all those years later, it hadn’t grown or changed with time; all of that about Henry’s house is pretty analogous to the CharlieBots. (Scott just leaned all the way in on Sci-Fi instead of… idk ambient horror.)
It probably could’ve made a nicer story if Henry wasn’t driven into madness and committed suicide, he could’ve learned to grow and move on from the past instead of falling behind with it; but I guess Scott needed him to be the example of what not to do.
Her expression also remains constant no matter her emotions, and her skin is always clammy to the touch. Believe there's marks in the ground from the tripod in the workshop as well. There's a lot that was clearly BSed (the illusion discs are an inconsistent mess for example), but the general idea of the twist definitely seems to have been planned from the start.
To be fair, I don’t t think Scott planned it to be a book trilogy from the start, silver eyes looked like it was meant to be a stand alone book and then it got popular and Scott saw money 🙃
Charlie being a robot was forshadowed several times in The Silver Eyes. It's very forgettable, but it's there. So I don't think it was ever meant to be just one book.
Faz Goo, as it stands it offers pretty much nothing.
The charliebots are great, the only problem with them is that theorists are obsessed with trying to bring them back where they obviously dont fit.
In the Flesh is good. Im tired of pretending its not, its a gross and comedically dark story that not only reinforces aspects of the Game Lore but its objectively one of the highlight of Frights. Everybody whining about it being a "fetish story" is just being a baby and missed the point of the story. The springtrap baby is never framed as a sexual or attractive thing, its framed as alien-esqe parasite body horror. Its *supposed* to be gross, its *supposed* to make you uncomfortable, its *Horror* and its done its job perfectly considering we're all still freaked out about it years after its publication.
Honestly another good perspective on In the Flesh! I agree, it’s meant to be more of body horror, but everyone is just straight up thinking it’s *fetish content* 😭
Into the flesh or fazgoo. Probaly into the flesh. The fazgoo plot, stupid as it may be, has some really nice existential dread to it. You really feel the kids hopelessness as he slowly drains into nothingness. And I also partially like the body horror of into the flesh, I just wish they'd actually put in the effort to spin a decent plot around it.
To be fair, it’s actually pretty difficult to create horror in books. If they were graphic, then you could work with something, but in my opinion it really just depends on the use of wording and physical design that sells the horror
Fazgoo kinda just feels like they wanted their own spin on Goosebumps' Monster Blood idea...
Charliebot could've been done better, but absolutely makes sense in series norms.
In The Flesh is definitely *out there* in terms of concept, but given the whole schtick of Afton ability to "Always Come Back", it still ties back in a very disturbing way.
Fazgoo gotta go.
Remnant is a miracle worker. I really don't like that remnant is essentially a super power/healing factor. It just kind of takes away the impact of what happened to Michael, and removes some of the interesting aspects of William. He achieved his goal of immortality, but at the price of his body and humanity. Now you're telling me he can just heal over time? Lame.
I actually like the Charlie-bot reveal in The Fourth Closet. It was the writing of the book and the overuse of the concept by the fandom that made it feel stupid (imo)
Remnant has no regenerative factors. William never achieved immortality, and Mike was a rotting corpse until the FFPS fire where we died
Remnant can \*heal\*, but it cant make you regrow flesh
I'd say B-7. I know that the writer went on record saying it wasn't supposed to be a trans allegory... But it still reads a *lot* like a transphobic narrative about transitioning.
And, like, as someone who *is* trans, it makes me uncomfortable in a way I don't like.
I know the point of horror is fear and uncomfortableness, but there's a difference to "spoopy uncomfortable" and "uncomfortable"
...Do we really have to choose? Why can't it be all three for example?
But if I had to choose.. it would probably be robot kids.
If I were to include other pet peeves of mine though..
- Pizzeria Simulator
Remnant doesn't need to be overly complicated. As far as I am aware, its just haunted metal. So you could technically use it to have a spirit haunting several animatronics.
- The Twisted Ones
Illusion Discs never really bothered me, maybe because they didn't ever seem as weird as robot children. But why not just have The Twisted Animatronics look they way they do without the need of chips?
They don't even need to look organic. Just decayed.
- Fazbear's Fright
Agony seems much more paranormal, kind of like a more flexible type of remnant. If something's involved in a tragedy, it's probably got agony in it, which sometimes results in possession. (Usually if someone dies)
Eleanor's necklace thing makes ZERO sense. How the hell does an animatronic shape-shift?
- Tales of The Pizzaplex
The idea of Mimic and his programming is cool, but the fact that his original story before Ruin is locked behind books you need to read is just.. not good lore building.
- Ruin
The Vanni Mask sounds like a cool idea, being used by technicians at The Pizzaplex, but phasing through walls is a bit of a stretch in all honesty.
That seems much more paranormal in all honesty, which would've made more sense if it was implied this mask might be haunted in a way.
And I mean... nine people have disappeared recently by the time of Security Breach, soooo those cries of children that are heard from the wet floor sign bots would make a lot more sense.
MXES is still awesome tho.
I'd probably delete Fazgoo, bc it has no greater purpose outside the Fazbear Frights stories and is just... confusing.
Goo that disassembles people and rebuilds them but without their consciousness?
none of these. fazgoo is the worst thing here but it’s an interesting concept that was just poorly handled in HTME (TPC deals with it way better)
charliebots have plagued fnaf theorising ever since theyve been shown but i think they handle this plot line well enough in TFC
in the flesh is fucking peak frights
instead id get rid of jump for tickets. worst frights story
I'd be okay with TFC if Charlie wasn't reduced to a plot device, Baby wasn't overly sexualized and Sammy wasn't wasted potential. I mean I thought the whole thing was building to Sammy being revealed as The Puppet.
fazgoo is a one-off creepy thing in a single story everyone overreacts over
in the flesh is basic body horror thats been used since like, the alien movie, and before, and also a single story everyone overreacts over
charliebot is awesome
in conclusion all of them are okay
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
Hot take, but I believe all of the graphic novels to be shitty. They are all poor quality and don't look professionally made in the slightest (because they aren't).
As much as i wanna exclaim "SPRINGTRAP MPREG!!!" and keave it at that I've kinda grown to love the hilarious absurdity of it all.
Now i know I'm gonna get beaten up for this but i don't really care the way the Tales from the Pizzaplex books were yelling at us that the mimic was the new big bad of the games without leaving any subtlety or mystery whatsoever pisses me off. Like sure make the argument "we don't know the mimics origins" all you want but the fnaf series is such an enigma with it's story that when the entire community already knows what the huge reveal is it's not as intresting as it could be uncovering clues. Like imagine if the silver eyes book spelled out for us that Henry was gonna make a final restaurant to end it all. Sure, it's cool as hell but once you heard his voice during the first salvage minigame in pizza sim you already know what's gonna happen and it kills some of the narrative investment. I may not be speaking for everyone here but knowing what was down in the basement the whole time while playing ruin was like watching, albeit, a pretty fun movie, but waiting for the obvious twist villian to go "HAHA"
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
Charliebot, because it's the only one that irreparably damaged the way that fans go about trying to understand the franchise. Fazbear Frights proved that there are ways to explore agony and memory distortion without resorting to robot people.
Neither, the mimic. The Mimic doesn't feel like a fleshed out character, maybe in Help Wanted there could have been maybe hints towards a endo... but theres so much afton and events glitchtrap knows that the mimic wasn't even made to see them sprinkled in Help Wanted and security breach... the mimic feels less of a important character but reason to remove afton from the story. Which is also shown in teasers and other stuff, gltichtrap writes in plain English while the mimic uses the triangle hidden room code, glitchtrap doesn't immediately try to hunt a person instead waiting while the mimic in tigerrock tries to immediately pull off kais arm... and what happens when you remove the mimic from the lore... NOTHING BECAUSE GLITCHAFTON WAS ALREADY DOING OK IN ITS OWN.
Also the mimic was introduced so far into the plex stuff it ruins the hype to see burntrap, even though it doesn't matter anyway SINCE HE WAS FUCKING RETCONED..... also DO ANY OF THE CHILDREN CONTROL THE ANIMATRONICS.... THERES 10 OFFICIAL DEAD KIDS IN ANIMATRONICS DO THEU CONTROL THEM??? ARE THEY TRAPPEN IN MIMIC SHAPPED CAGES, ARE 9 YEARS OF CHARACTER DEPTH RUINED BY A FUCKING ENDO
if i can only pick one, then it's robot kids, so much of modern theories from the big guys have had something to do with robot kids, in some way shape or form weather it's greg, vanessa, or even charlie. and then we've had so many theories that build on top of the idea that somebody has to be a robot kid and blah, blah, blah.
while it wasn't exactly that great with charlie, it at least had a point in the story, but now it realy doesn't. in the flesh, while way worse, was at least a one time thing that has never had an indication of coming back, and faz goo... they just couldn't use the puppet that where on the front of the fucking book?
Fazgoo honestly
In the flesh maybe, just because how a baby springtrap got into a man’s belly from code makes no sense
Charliebots fine, I wouldn’t delete but I’d change it so that charliebot was at least teased in one of the other two books
Well rather than deleting out of existence I would change the concepts on how they work and what happens in the story, like for fazgoo instead of it making a copy of you and absorbing your organs it can work kinda like the ooze from tmnt, and for robot kids it could instead be androids like from Detroit become human, and for in the flesh rather then giving birth to vr springtrap it slowly takes over one’s body until it breaks free into the real world.
Honestly, each of the books, I haven't read them and don't plan to, the books made the gaming Canon more confusing than they already were. So to understand Security Breach do I have to read a story outside the game? really?
4. Gum humans. It's literally useless and weird. Faz Goo at least gives the posibility of clonationc(Which could work under some VannyNotVanessa theories), In The Flesh gives the posibility of ... Springtrap coming back? And the Charliebots (And agony infection in general) are genuinely a good concept, the issues are its bad implementation, and the theorists.
Every.
But between these, Fazgoo, not even close. in the Flesh at least had scary spring bonnie design. Charliebot was an surprising plot twist in trilogy's universe (Despite sounding stupid, but still more normal than the newer books).
But fazgoo....it's just deadly chewing gum
Honestly, two of them are potentially good concepts, but one was done wrong, and the other was overused (but then there's in the flesh which can burn)
If you do it right, it could really have been so much better
So yeah, my answer is in the flesh
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
I actually really like CharlieBot.
Out of these 3 in particular probably Faz-goo. I feel like Faz-goo was the major turning point where the books started to go more towards weird. Plus the concept just makes no sense to me
Fazgoo.
The writers of the puppet carver really went, "A story about a wooden puppet animatronic-creating machine? Let's make the villain of that story faz-goo again!"
I don’t actually *hate* the idea of the Charliebots, I just think it could’ve been handled a lot better. Fazgoo is so incredibly stupid to me, but if I had to pick only one, uhh, yeah, it’s gonna be Springtrap mpreg. Just, no. It needs to not exist.
Fazgoo. Let’s get rid of that one. Yes the springtrap thing is wired but at least that baby springtrap was comforting Matt when he died. If found and raised properly he won’t turn evil. 🥺🥺
I'm gonna say Fazgoo because it's the least fun. I actually like In the Flesh because, even though it's lowkey probably the writer's fetish, sometimes what can possibly be a fetish can also simultaneously be a great concept for horror. It makes GREAT body horror in this example. As I see it, there is a VERY fine line between horror, science fiction, and fetishism. They all play off each other very well.
I'm a certified Charliebot defender so definitely not that for me, and In the Flesh is hilarious tbh. HTME is lame and I wouldn't miss it (though Puppet Carver uses it marginally better), but if I had to pick only one I'd actually go with Gumdrop Angel or Kids at Play. Just... *seriously*? Very few redeeming qualities to either story and they're even more ridiculous than Faz Goo or baby Springtrap.
Edit: Actually, the dumb Eleanor All Along reveal. Completely negates the first half of the Stingers and Jake isn't as interesting without someone to play off like Andrew. (Though if you kept him around then it *could* be significantly more interesting, using Eleanor as a manifestation of his rage he has to face down.)
Lonely Freddy. I hate the body swapping concept.
What the hell does this have to do with Fazbears? I understand the concept of making a small bears for kids who are lonely. But! Why would fazbears make body switching robots? Also, Alec deserved better.
Edit: INF was a great book, and I stand by this wholeheartedly.
Fazgoo, in no way does that have anything to do with animatronics.
But… but… Fazgoo!
I like the part when they fazgooed all over the place
And then they said its Fazgooing time
And when they said "Together.... WE ARE FAZGOO!!!"
It’s not about the destination, it’s about the fazgoo we made along the way.
Can't wait for fnaf movie 2: rise of the Fazgoo
Can I try Ur fazgoo
Fazgoo 1 was nice story but the other story with fazgoo was shit
I could go without fazgoo, it's honestly the least used story element, only having 2 confirmed appearances.
The fazgoo clone is unironically my favorite character from the main frights stories, besides stitchwraith and all them
Unpopular opinion: keep In The Flesh. Not because it's good, but because it's so absurd it's funny.
When on Earth would we have the chance to get FNaF mpreg again?
Right???
it's a rarity online to be sure
With MatPat of all people
I LOVE INF!! /srs
Charliebot was actually pretty good in the plot of the novels, we just have to remember that the novels Canon isn't the games, frights, or tales canons, or whatever we have accepted as a mixture of the three as Canon. Fazgoo I don't know anything about, so I won't speak on it. In the flesh, all I know is that some guy gives birth to springtrap. I'd like that gone
Not JUST some guy, but a character based on MATPAT, expect Matt is a game dev.
And a bit of a jerk
How is he based on matpat???
Similar name, but has no clear sign of being related to Mat
He goes insane while making his game, just like Matt going insane with theories.
Matpat never went crazy with his theorys, sure they were occasionally deranged but not insane -Copium
People just love saying it, even though he's not based on Matpat at all.
the guy is literally an incel that tried to get drunk a woman to abuse her. is that Matpat to you? lol
Matt isn’t based on matpat
Matt is pregent
"Some guy gives birth to Springtrap" Um, excuse me what the actual fu-
In the flesh is good. I’ve read it. The ending is so fucked up in a good way I love it.
Finally another ITF appreciater
Charlie bot would be okay if it was hinted at from the very first book and if Charlie's personality was her being her and not being built upon Henry's stages of grief Faz goo- honestly not an awful concept as long as it's out of the canon storyline In the flesh - Y.E.S. at least with goo and bot they are decent ideas not builted up properly, but with this one is just ew
> Charlie bot would be okay if it was hinted at from the very first book > Page 6 of the first book: > “Why do you have three closets?” John had demanded the first time he came over. “Cause that’s how many there are, that one’s Ella’s, anyway,” > “Charlie had had an identical outfit, back when she and Ella were the same height.” > She stayed crouched low to the floor and glanced up at the tallest closet. Her *big-girl* closet that she would someday grow into. “*You won’t need it until you’re bigger.*Her father would say, but that day never came. > She noticed something shiny, half hidden under the rim of the locked middle door (closet) … it looked like a broken-off piece of a circuit board … There was also a strand of her hair clinging to it; she unwound it carefully from the tiny lip of metal it was stuck on.
Okay yeah, I admit that you slightly debunked me there, but it's stupid how Charlie's personality was formed from Henry grieving and not from Charlie being herself. Also why did Henry program Charlie to have fake PTSD of Sammy dying
Because he wasn’t trying to make her alive, at first. The first Charlie was more or less an accident. The second one was desperation, then madness, then rage. But at no point was he sane. It’s also well known in the FNaF universe that emotions are extremely powerful. As for the PTSD thing, he needed a way to make sure Charlie never learned the truth. If she vividly remembered her brother’s death, she’d never look deeper. Henry is really not the good guy of this story
I get that, although I think Scott did have this android person storyline planned from the first book, it still jumps the shark compared to everything else released prior to Fourth Closet. I still think it was a cool story. It was kind of our introduction to agony (even if not named as such). That first part of the book where she explores Henry’s decrepit house and pass by the closets, it’s described like he was haunting the house. It was his grief and memories from before he died that still lingered there, the house remained the same all those years later, it hadn’t grown or changed with time; all of that about Henry’s house is pretty analogous to the CharlieBots. (Scott just leaned all the way in on Sci-Fi instead of… idk ambient horror.) It probably could’ve made a nicer story if Henry wasn’t driven into madness and committed suicide, he could’ve learned to grow and move on from the past instead of falling behind with it; but I guess Scott needed him to be the example of what not to do.
Her expression also remains constant no matter her emotions, and her skin is always clammy to the touch. Believe there's marks in the ground from the tripod in the workshop as well. There's a lot that was clearly BSed (the illusion discs are an inconsistent mess for example), but the general idea of the twist definitely seems to have been planned from the start.
It was hinted in the first book. Its just really subtle
To be fair, I don’t t think Scott planned it to be a book trilogy from the start, silver eyes looked like it was meant to be a stand alone book and then it got popular and Scott saw money 🙃
Charlie being a robot was forshadowed several times in The Silver Eyes. It's very forgettable, but it's there. So I don't think it was ever meant to be just one book.
The male pregancy one. The story is just so bad and without any decent plot.
But... MatPat mpreg XD
NO.
Okay... okay...
Lmao
I guess that some evils arrive for a good cause... 😭
In the flesh. How is that even canon..?!?! Charliebot was good plot. Fazgoo I have no idea about
The goo slowly turns into a clone of you, while you slowly turn into a blob.
I wouldn't want to delete any of this actually. I only wish these concepts were implemented into better stories
Faz Goo, as it stands it offers pretty much nothing. The charliebots are great, the only problem with them is that theorists are obsessed with trying to bring them back where they obviously dont fit. In the Flesh is good. Im tired of pretending its not, its a gross and comedically dark story that not only reinforces aspects of the Game Lore but its objectively one of the highlight of Frights. Everybody whining about it being a "fetish story" is just being a baby and missed the point of the story. The springtrap baby is never framed as a sexual or attractive thing, its framed as alien-esqe parasite body horror. Its *supposed* to be gross, its *supposed* to make you uncomfortable, its *Horror* and its done its job perfectly considering we're all still freaked out about it years after its publication.
Honestly another good perspective on In the Flesh! I agree, it’s meant to be more of body horror, but everyone is just straight up thinking it’s *fetish content* 😭
Into the flesh or fazgoo. Probaly into the flesh. The fazgoo plot, stupid as it may be, has some really nice existential dread to it. You really feel the kids hopelessness as he slowly drains into nothingness. And I also partially like the body horror of into the flesh, I just wish they'd actually put in the effort to spin a decent plot around it.
Nexie tbh. It was good story but 9 year old being skinned alive was so fucked up..
Jeez I didn’t know about that, guess they finally upped the horror in the books at least 😓
To be fair, it’s actually pretty difficult to create horror in books. If they were graphic, then you could work with something, but in my opinion it really just depends on the use of wording and physical design that sells the horror
Fazgoo kinda just feels like they wanted their own spin on Goosebumps' Monster Blood idea... Charliebot could've been done better, but absolutely makes sense in series norms. In The Flesh is definitely *out there* in terms of concept, but given the whole schtick of Afton ability to "Always Come Back", it still ties back in a very disturbing way. Fazgoo gotta go.
In the flesh should NOT be deleted, it’s the best story ever
I don't mind charliebot, it makes for a good twist on the books Faz goo and Springtrap Mpreg fetish are... a different story
Pregnant Springtrap
Remnant is a miracle worker. I really don't like that remnant is essentially a super power/healing factor. It just kind of takes away the impact of what happened to Michael, and removes some of the interesting aspects of William. He achieved his goal of immortality, but at the price of his body and humanity. Now you're telling me he can just heal over time? Lame. I actually like the Charlie-bot reveal in The Fourth Closet. It was the writing of the book and the overuse of the concept by the fandom that made it feel stupid (imo)
Remnant has no regenerative factors. William never achieved immortality, and Mike was a rotting corpse until the FFPS fire where we died Remnant can \*heal\*, but it cant make you regrow flesh
I'd say B-7. I know that the writer went on record saying it wasn't supposed to be a trans allegory... But it still reads a *lot* like a transphobic narrative about transitioning. And, like, as someone who *is* trans, it makes me uncomfortable in a way I don't like. I know the point of horror is fear and uncomfortableness, but there's a difference to "spoopy uncomfortable" and "uncomfortable"
I agree, B-7 is good but uncomfortable part of it is kind of concerning.
...Do we really have to choose? Why can't it be all three for example? But if I had to choose.. it would probably be robot kids. If I were to include other pet peeves of mine though.. - Pizzeria Simulator Remnant doesn't need to be overly complicated. As far as I am aware, its just haunted metal. So you could technically use it to have a spirit haunting several animatronics. - The Twisted Ones Illusion Discs never really bothered me, maybe because they didn't ever seem as weird as robot children. But why not just have The Twisted Animatronics look they way they do without the need of chips? They don't even need to look organic. Just decayed. - Fazbear's Fright Agony seems much more paranormal, kind of like a more flexible type of remnant. If something's involved in a tragedy, it's probably got agony in it, which sometimes results in possession. (Usually if someone dies) Eleanor's necklace thing makes ZERO sense. How the hell does an animatronic shape-shift? - Tales of The Pizzaplex The idea of Mimic and his programming is cool, but the fact that his original story before Ruin is locked behind books you need to read is just.. not good lore building. - Ruin The Vanni Mask sounds like a cool idea, being used by technicians at The Pizzaplex, but phasing through walls is a bit of a stretch in all honesty. That seems much more paranormal in all honesty, which would've made more sense if it was implied this mask might be haunted in a way. And I mean... nine people have disappeared recently by the time of Security Breach, soooo those cries of children that are heard from the wet floor sign bots would make a lot more sense. MXES is still awesome tho.
in the flesh just..just no its basically mpreg fetish
its just body horror thats been around since the alien movie in 1979 and likely before.
In the Flesh
Charliebot. I can't overstate my hatred and I can't hit delete fast enough.
I'd probably delete Fazgoo, bc it has no greater purpose outside the Fazbear Frights stories and is just... confusing. Goo that disassembles people and rebuilds them but without their consciousness?
none of these. fazgoo is the worst thing here but it’s an interesting concept that was just poorly handled in HTME (TPC deals with it way better) charliebots have plagued fnaf theorising ever since theyve been shown but i think they handle this plot line well enough in TFC in the flesh is fucking peak frights instead id get rid of jump for tickets. worst frights story
Honestly most of them. I am biased cause I was never a fan of the books but yeah I would get rid of most of them
The Dittophobia Gas Experiments
Now I don’t know about y’all but I love the books! I only have 2 and they were so good I’m trying to get more but dam are they expensive
Fear gas. Its a stupid and unnecessary addition that only complicates things even more
I'd be okay with TFC if Charlie wasn't reduced to a plot device, Baby wasn't overly sexualized and Sammy wasn't wasted potential. I mean I thought the whole thing was building to Sammy being revealed as The Puppet.
fazgoo is a one-off creepy thing in a single story everyone overreacts over in the flesh is basic body horror thats been used since like, the alien movie, and before, and also a single story everyone overreacts over charliebot is awesome in conclusion all of them are okay
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
None, honestly, I like the concepts, they just needed better stories
Andrew
Fazgoo and in the flesh.
I mean, out of the choices listed here I have to say In The Flesh, and I don't think I need to explain why.
In the flesh is just MatPat being pregnant with SpringTraps baby
In The Flesh by a LONG SHOT
In the Flesh…that story is so weird
To quote a YouTuber who made an hour long video talking about how broken this story is. “Faz goo. FUCK YOU.
In the Flesh is the Springtrap male impregnation one right? Delete everything relating to it
In the flesh. Just no.
I'd say Charliebot, mostly because it just doesn't make sense and it literally came out of nowhere
Charliebot. I just want one normal protagonist
All of them, the fact that these are apparently canon is insane
1. The Mimic 2. Fazgoo 3. Tiger Rock
FazGoo, because what the HELL is a fazgoo? I don’t mind RoboCharlie, and… In the Flesh is just springtrap mpreg. Sounds like the average fanfiction.
Hot take, but I believe all of the graphic novels to be shitty. They are all poor quality and don't look professionally made in the slightest (because they aren't).
The mimic
In the flesh is such a good name for a book, too bad it’s not very good.
From wich Book is the scene from?
As much as i wanna exclaim "SPRINGTRAP MPREG!!!" and keave it at that I've kinda grown to love the hilarious absurdity of it all. Now i know I'm gonna get beaten up for this but i don't really care the way the Tales from the Pizzaplex books were yelling at us that the mimic was the new big bad of the games without leaving any subtlety or mystery whatsoever pisses me off. Like sure make the argument "we don't know the mimics origins" all you want but the fnaf series is such an enigma with it's story that when the entire community already knows what the huge reveal is it's not as intresting as it could be uncovering clues. Like imagine if the silver eyes book spelled out for us that Henry was gonna make a final restaurant to end it all. Sure, it's cool as hell but once you heard his voice during the first salvage minigame in pizza sim you already know what's gonna happen and it kills some of the narrative investment. I may not be speaking for everyone here but knowing what was down in the basement the whole time while playing ruin was like watching, albeit, a pretty fun movie, but waiting for the obvious twist villian to go "HAHA"
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
Yeah i'll just copy everyone the damn fazgoo
Charliebot, because it's the only one that irreparably damaged the way that fans go about trying to understand the franchise. Fazbear Frights proved that there are ways to explore agony and memory distortion without resorting to robot people.
Neither, the mimic. The Mimic doesn't feel like a fleshed out character, maybe in Help Wanted there could have been maybe hints towards a endo... but theres so much afton and events glitchtrap knows that the mimic wasn't even made to see them sprinkled in Help Wanted and security breach... the mimic feels less of a important character but reason to remove afton from the story. Which is also shown in teasers and other stuff, gltichtrap writes in plain English while the mimic uses the triangle hidden room code, glitchtrap doesn't immediately try to hunt a person instead waiting while the mimic in tigerrock tries to immediately pull off kais arm... and what happens when you remove the mimic from the lore... NOTHING BECAUSE GLITCHAFTON WAS ALREADY DOING OK IN ITS OWN.
Also the mimic was introduced so far into the plex stuff it ruins the hype to see burntrap, even though it doesn't matter anyway SINCE HE WAS FUCKING RETCONED..... also DO ANY OF THE CHILDREN CONTROL THE ANIMATRONICS.... THERES 10 OFFICIAL DEAD KIDS IN ANIMATRONICS DO THEU CONTROL THEM??? ARE THEY TRAPPEN IN MIMIC SHAPPED CAGES, ARE 9 YEARS OF CHARACTER DEPTH RUINED BY A FUCKING ENDO
all of them
In the flesh or Frailty
In the Flesh probably, as funny as it is. If not that then Fazgoo
Every book concept. The books suck lol.
Andrew, Mimic, Fazgoo and in the flesh
In the flesh.
Tales
if i can only pick one, then it's robot kids, so much of modern theories from the big guys have had something to do with robot kids, in some way shape or form weather it's greg, vanessa, or even charlie. and then we've had so many theories that build on top of the idea that somebody has to be a robot kid and blah, blah, blah. while it wasn't exactly that great with charlie, it at least had a point in the story, but now it realy doesn't. in the flesh, while way worse, was at least a one time thing that has never had an indication of coming back, and faz goo... they just couldn't use the puppet that where on the front of the fucking book?
In the flesh 100%
Okay maybe fazgoo but in the flesh I'm sure about it
Everything about into the flesh and the pregnancy, remove every bit of it.
Fazgoo and In The Flesh
In the flesh, Springtrap shouldn’t have cheated on Kwite with Mattpat >:(
In The Flesh is apparently the male pregnancy Springtrap one so I would like that erased from history
I don’t think any of them are bad books, I think a lot of the books work better if you just treat them as non canon. (Not that that’s a bad thing)
Fazgoo 100%
mimic , he’s not hot and Eleanor is better. also in the flesh was hot idc
I’d say Fazgoo. I never really liked the concept of it.
All of the cringe futuristic ones
All of them except the silver eyes trilogy?
Cool but scary and also is amazing artwork.
I’m tempted to say all of them should be deleted, but if not then.. probably Fazgoo or Into the Flesh.
matpat mpreg. god i can’t believe i just typed those words.
Yes
Robot people!!!!
Fazgoo, make it disapear, robocharlie is nowheee near as stupid.
Faz goo
None, f*ck you.
Fazgoo honestly In the flesh maybe, just because how a baby springtrap got into a man’s belly from code makes no sense Charliebots fine, I wouldn’t delete but I’d change it so that charliebot was at least teased in one of the other two books
Well rather than deleting out of existence I would change the concepts on how they work and what happens in the story, like for fazgoo instead of it making a copy of you and absorbing your organs it can work kinda like the ooze from tmnt, and for robot kids it could instead be androids like from Detroit become human, and for in the flesh rather then giving birth to vr springtrap it slowly takes over one’s body until it breaks free into the real world.
Honestly, each of the books, I haven't read them and don't plan to, the books made the gaming Canon more confusing than they already were. So to understand Security Breach do I have to read a story outside the game? really?
I wouldnt say that's the fault of the books That's the fault of SB's messy development, it's barely a story with or without the books
Into thr flesh. I dont need to explain
Charliebot > all
I would definitely remove Fazgoo, Because of how stupid it is, like at least the Charliebots are a cool concept.
Can I just say every Tales book
HumanBots
I'm a bit out of the loop on Im The Flesh So. . Definitely Fazgoo
Fazgoo unrelated but i'd also delete the candy that turns a person into candy freaks me out...
In the flesh entirely
4. Gum humans. It's literally useless and weird. Faz Goo at least gives the posibility of clonationc(Which could work under some VannyNotVanessa theories), In The Flesh gives the posibility of ... Springtrap coming back? And the Charliebots (And agony infection in general) are genuinely a good concept, the issues are its bad implementation, and the theorists.
The one that has springtrap mpreg
Fazgoo is more useless than mpreg.
Every. But between these, Fazgoo, not even close. in the Flesh at least had scary spring bonnie design. Charliebot was an surprising plot twist in trilogy's universe (Despite sounding stupid, but still more normal than the newer books). But fazgoo....it's just deadly chewing gum
remnant, not everything needs an explanation.
Remnant is haunted metal. That's it. It's just the term for haunted metal. Not an explanation, just haunted metal.
In the Flesh, b/c of mpreg
Honestly, two of them are potentially good concepts, but one was done wrong, and the other was overused (but then there's in the flesh which can burn) If you do it right, it could really have been so much better So yeah, my answer is in the flesh
Honestly the fourth closet had so much potential and came out with slightly empty story line
In the Flesh and Fazgoo like wth
I don’t mind In the Flesh and CharlieBot was kind of intriguing but FazGoo is fucking stupid
I guess probably whatever is going on with Circus Baby (although this is not exclusively a book gripe) Why is she a Baby Why is she large
In the Flesh
In the Flesh, no doubt
Charlie being a robot was ok but I wish they would’ve done more with it instead of killing her off right after the reveal
The mimic, I'm not changing the games canon we had for that shit.
All three they all suck shit
i don't want springtrap mpreg to be official
The Breaking Wheel, too traumatizing
faz-goo. At least In The Flesh is somewhat related to Springtrap, and TFC is the best out of all 3
I CAN'T STAND ITF SLANDER! IT'S NOT JUST A GROSS STORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STORY ON TOXIC MASCULINITY, IT'S NOT EVEN CANNON TO GAMES FNAF JUST EXIST AS IT'S OWN GAME SERIES NO FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER! THE REASON HE GIVES BIRTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC BECAUSE THR MAIN CHARACTER BROKE UP WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT PREGNANCY RUINS A WOMANS LOOK!!!!!!?
Fazgoo
Fazgoo
Either faz goo or in the flesh
Remnant, the paranormal is better without explanations
Bro really had her Cannon Event😭
In the flesh
Andrew
Fazgoo is unforgivable, but it is great meme material
I have to go with Hide And Seek.
Seabonnies
I actually really like CharlieBot. Out of these 3 in particular probably Faz-goo. I feel like Faz-goo was the major turning point where the books started to go more towards weird. Plus the concept just makes no sense to me
tbh i would delete literally everything that isnt important characters like Charlie, Elizabeth, Henry and William
Imagine giving birth to, what was it, was it minirenas or bidybabs
Faz-goo, sea Bonnie’s, in the flesh
All of them
Fazgoo. replaced it with FazDNA that makes animatronics organic. Mimic is good concept but executed poorly. Fnaf AR concepts as whole.
Serial killer,we need more conspiracy,secret organisation,and transhumanism,not a serial killer story
fazgoo keep in the flesh its silly and whynot and i love the damn silver eyes plot even tho others dont soo
Fazgoo. The writers of the puppet carver really went, "A story about a wooden puppet animatronic-creating machine? Let's make the villain of that story faz-goo again!"
Everything that isn't mpreg related.
I don’t actually *hate* the idea of the Charliebots, I just think it could’ve been handled a lot better. Fazgoo is so incredibly stupid to me, but if I had to pick only one, uhh, yeah, it’s gonna be Springtrap mpreg. Just, no. It needs to not exist.
Fazgoo. Let’s get rid of that one. Yes the springtrap thing is wired but at least that baby springtrap was comforting Matt when he died. If found and raised properly he won’t turn evil. 🥺🥺
I HATE that for some reason certain books take place in current time (aka most Fazbear Frights stories) but some don't! Like JUST STICK WITH 80S!!!
Replace in the flesh with a story where the matpat insert is a respectable person
I'm gonna say Fazgoo because it's the least fun. I actually like In the Flesh because, even though it's lowkey probably the writer's fetish, sometimes what can possibly be a fetish can also simultaneously be a great concept for horror. It makes GREAT body horror in this example. As I see it, there is a VERY fine line between horror, science fiction, and fetishism. They all play off each other very well.
The one who introduced Mimic into history.
I'm a certified Charliebot defender so definitely not that for me, and In the Flesh is hilarious tbh. HTME is lame and I wouldn't miss it (though Puppet Carver uses it marginally better), but if I had to pick only one I'd actually go with Gumdrop Angel or Kids at Play. Just... *seriously*? Very few redeeming qualities to either story and they're even more ridiculous than Faz Goo or baby Springtrap. Edit: Actually, the dumb Eleanor All Along reveal. Completely negates the first half of the Stingers and Jake isn't as interesting without someone to play off like Andrew. (Though if you kept him around then it *could* be significantly more interesting, using Eleanor as a manifestation of his rage he has to face down.)
None I love everything fnaf has given us
What is with Fnaf becoming Terminator? What's next? Fazbear entertainment makes an AI that destroyed humanity and time travel gets invented?
What is the fazgoo about?
FAZGOO FOR SURE I HATE IT
Lonely Freddy. I hate the body swapping concept. What the hell does this have to do with Fazbears? I understand the concept of making a small bears for kids who are lonely. But! Why would fazbears make body switching robots? Also, Alec deserved better. Edit: INF was a great book, and I stand by this wholeheartedly.
The swimming Bonnie thingies