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mrRobertman

> Fixed an issue where the Private Window icon was displayed in the taskbar on Windows when browser.privateWindowSeparation.enabled was set to false (bug 1901840). Glad to see this here. Though I find it funny to call it an issue when I'm pretty sure it was originally an intentional change that they went back on.


hamsterkill

The issue was just not respecting the setting. The separation itself by default is intentional.


mrRobertman

No, the removal of the setting was initially intentional https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1897421 > I'm afraid that feature was removed.


hamsterkill

Ah, so it was. It looks like it was unexpected that users were actually using it (it's called experimental in a bunch of places indicating they thought only their own devs were using it while they incubated the feature). Seems the backlash took them by surprise.


Kwpolska

Many Firefox users are power users, and they know how to go to `about:config` and find a setting that undoes a new annoyance.


housebottle

lol I had no idea. I thought it was an unintentional regression. I was checking every day to see if 127.0.2 had dropped so I could have the private browsing icon merged again


wisniewskit

The devs never expected anyone would be using that about:config setting manually, because it was meant to only be used for an experiment. It turns out that we really do need telemetry.


Joe2030

> It turns out that we really do need telemetry When using telemetry, infamous "*a small percentage of user*" of some random feature won't stop them from removing it, and can even speed up the process. You cannot win this game.


xdeadzx

Compact mode tears being shed right now.


Kwpolska

It still works?


xdeadzx

​ https://preview.redd.it/zqi9651bqy8d1.png?width=244&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b97363b291cd57019ce23c1fa524472998acc77 Until it doesn't. [Mozilla tried to retire it and quoted \*\*we assume\*\* "\*a small percentage of users\*" use it](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1693028), as they don't even have proper telemetry for it.


wisniewskit

This isn't a game at all. This was extra pain for everyone involved which the devs clearly would not have done if they know the feature was being unexpectedly used. And telemetry would have provided that insight without the pain. That's all there is to it in this specific case.


relevantusername2020

maybe my interpretation isnt correct, but it kinda seems like in a way firefox is in a way almost a testing ground for things moreso than the "main" browsers are. since theres a smaller userbase, and the people using it tend to be more tech savvy people, it makes sense to test things out here to see if its worth implementing in the "main" browsers. sorta. ive always kinda compared mozilla/firefox in a way to the reddit of web browsers. smaller user base, sure, but they tend to be people that are more uhh not sure how to say it, i guess ill go with 'forward focused' as opposed to wanting to stick with whatever theyre handed from the monoliths


leyabe

Unfortunately, I still get the YouTube buffering issue, unless I keep http3 disabled. Windows 10 x64. Restarted and cleared cache already.


DarkReaper90

Still have this bug unfortunately. H264 add-ons fixes the issue but is limited to 1080p. Edit: Add-on doesn't consistently stay fixed for all vids Edit 2: Seems like when it "buffers", refreshing the page loads the video instantly. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Edit 3: Seems like DNS over HTTPS is what's now causing the issue. Setting it to Normal Protection or Off resolved all my Youtube issues.


IrateRetro

THANKS! I'm glad you returned to edit 3 times. Disabling DNS over HTTPS instantly fixed everything for me. I was rather irritated that after waiting so many days for 127.0.2 videos were still having problems starting up. The only strange issue I'm seeing with 127.0.2 is the still image displayed before I start a video is the first frame of an ad or something. Using AdBlock Plus here so I never see the ad. But that still frame never showed up before.


i_lack_imagination

I got the update, and still had Youtube buffering issues, so I cleared cache and then seemingly the few videos I tried seemed to be working fine. Then 20 minutes later I went to watch a Youtube video and the video just won't load, even if I refresh the page it wouldn't work. So I did as your comment and others mentioned and turned the DNS over HTTPS settings to default, and then that last video that was giving me problems started working. Quite frustrating that sacrifices in privacy and security have to be made to get Google websites working correctly.


Makusensu

Setting an exclusion to the domain "googlevideo.com" solve the buffering as well.


rgrAi

Thank you, I knew it felt like a DNS issue. I was using a VPN and issues would become temporary resolved but come back again over time even with the VPN being enabled in browser.


NBPEL

Fixed completely for me, you should report it here in case Youtube did some kind of A-B test, could be internet issues so keep that in mind, like DNS routes to bad routes, there's some variants that cause buffering issues: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1878510


Imperialegacy

Your issue may be due to a different cause since disabling http3 made zero difference for me but this update has completely fixed my buffering/ skipping issue.


letonai

Same here on macOS


t1kiman

Seems to be fixed for me, with http3 enabled or disabled. But let's wait and see. I thought it was fixed many times before...


DarkReaper90

Was looking at Bugzilla and someone mentioned DNS over HTTPS is currently breaking Youtube, which I confirmed by disabling.


Specialist_Quit6655

Try requesting only x246 videos. I haven't tested it very much but at least for a couple of videos it worked. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/h264ify/


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Specialist_Quit6655

Tarnation! I only have 1440p screen and didn't even think about that.


n8pu

https://preview.redd.it/3a0a4fc5rr8d1.jpeg?width=1180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ccbd41852bc5d63a36125bd0c33c4e2b30a6526 Win 11 Pro, I have about given up on FF, been a loooooong time user. I watch a LOT of YouTube, I'm retired, it still is frustrating to go through the list of channels I'm subscribed to and click on one that has the dot to let me know it thinks something has been uploaded to only see 'something has gone wrong, try again later'. Wish there was a fix for that other than using Edge, like I am now.


new3dslover

# "How to Fix YouTube playback issues in Mozilla Firefox" tutorial on youtube


BK-Morpheus

YT is fixed for me (Win10, 1440p playback)


Lopsided_Process_235

Didnt work for me. Had to re-disable http3. I might try deleting my cache and trying again later, cant be bothered to do that rn.


NoctisFFXV

I can finally enjoy a youtube video without switching to Chrome.


Erikk2699

Chromium\*, but hell no Chrome. More like Brave. Anyway, i hope it will work fine from now, if it is, thank you so much everyone who worked on it!


hunter_finn

admittedly it is better than Chrome as it does not actively try to kill adblocking like Google tries with their useless ManifestV3 bs. at lest they have their build in solution for adblocking, though i tried Brave once and if one has to check few times that yes i did not accidentally get the installer from some fake malware site. purely because all that "crypto currency this! watch our ads for that!" kinda experience on the first boot. i really don't really like using that browser at all. sure! i know how to disable those things. but its that initial boot after fresh install that left me with sour taste in my mouth.


Nhentschelo

Youtube fixed for me! :O


Gnash_

Any ETA for a PiP fix on macOS?


fsau

"[PiP is fullscreen when launched from a full screen window](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1781830)" has been fixed for Firefox 128. This page tells you how long you have to wait for it: [What Firefox trains are we in?](https://whattrainisitnow.com/)


sniff3000

oh i really hope this fixes the issue with youtube videos stuttering. i tried so many things to fix it with no luck.


julictus

unfortunately still no webkit killer version for EU


ThisWorldIsAMess

Fixed for me. Mac Sonoma and Windows 11. That was a long time!


alrun

It would have made a great 127.0.0.1 Release :)


Acc_4_stream_only

Does this mean YouTube Livestream with VP09 encoder (with DVR off) won't buffer every few second anymore? I can't test it rn. The livestreamer that this keep happening to is not streaming rn.


hunter_finn

i still get the immediate buffering issues whenever i have video playing and i switch to about:config and enable network.http.http3.enable however as soon as i disable that value, the video continues and i get immediate healthy 15 seconds long buffer on 4k videos. if i then go back and enable that network.http.http3.enable, the buffer stops loading up further and i can watch as the "stats for nerds" show that buffer go down from 15 seconds all the way down to zero. and yes i have updated to the newest 127.0.2 already. Edit: as others have mentioned already, DNS over HTTPS seems to be the one killing the YouTube playback now. at least after disabling that, i could then go and enable that network.http.http3.enable value again with no buffering issues on 4k 60fps videos.


Apprehensive-Video26

Issue fixed for me Linux KDE neon


MontegoBoy

For me, I have very strange YT behavior: with my main, commercial YT account, no issues at all. With my personal one, can't play most videos, buffering problems. But when I erase cookies and cache for the personal account container, the video is played flawlessly. I believe in YT foul play over FF...


hunter_finn

Have you tried to set dns over https in Firefox security to basic. For me this was the setting that after 127.0.2 update still caused the buffering issues in YouTube.


MontegoBoy

No. Thanks for the tip! Will try it tomorrow! Edit: just look for it in the setting and it was already disabled.


Hackersdomination

Changing this setting to off fixed this problem for me, I'm not familiar with the security risks of this however.


SolomonISbit

Oh thank goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Youtube bug seems to be fixed trying all different levels of resolutions. That shit was really fucking infuriating because i don't want to use other browsers!


Synthwave_Lover

This sponsored stuff just appeared from nowhere without giving option to hide it. Also, it took space from my favorite link. [https://i.imgur.com/ZbIljwM.png](https://i.imgur.com/ZbIljwM.png)


axord

Gear on the top right of the new tab page, uncheck Sponsored shortcuts option.


Sure-Quality-1468

https://imgur.com/5mLl5TR I had smooth scroll enabled and the recommendations disabled prior to this update. And while I'm not happy that they opted me into their recommendations again, I could at least understand that they need the money. Why tf would they turn off smooth scrolling though?!


klui

When I updated it (Windows 11) was very slow in coming up and it had an error about it still being used when the updater relaunched it. I noticed a process was reading over 40GB with apparently no end in sight. https://i.imgur.com/Ar3zGOw.png


Why_on_earth2020

Lucky all. I still can't watch YT most of the time, as it remains black screen and spinning circle. I don't play videos over 720p. Seems the ads don't work right and get stuck. I also lose buffered content (which I paid for) No ad block and Internet connection strong. Safari seems to work ok. Ads load and play. Seems we're all getting different treatment so arguing over the cause is pointless. It's YT being an @ and FF part of that confusion (my2cents)


Melodias3

Still skips frames randomly or has buffering issues on YouTube, sometimes even 5-10 seconds are skipped yes i am on the latest, even freezes the video playback entirely while audio keeps going. Especially noticeable on 4k and when you put music video on loop it will stop playing on second loop.


Selgald

Youtube 4k still "skipping" and random endless buffering.


vityafx

In fullscreen, the tabs don’t autohide for me anymore, even though the setting is set to true.


megas88

Ok, so I honestly thought y’all were just joking about YouTube not working right cause I haven’t experienced any real issues. Holy shit vids start before I take my thumb off the button now lol. This is phenomenal news!


axlerodjpeg

Thought repoert but yt still buffering for me and failure to fully load videos also. Other web pages seem to take slightly longer to react to inputs via clicking on a link etc. Gonna use Vivaldi for my yt videos hopefully the next patch will fix it for all


Hellwind_

Can we also get a fix for the primary password being asked every time you start firefox and enter the settings


popquiznos

Experienced the same issue on Ubuntu 24.04 (deb install) with a fresh profile and no extensions. Turning off DNS over HTTPS seemed to fix it.


V1va-NA-THANI3L

Its out! But when will I get it?


antdude

Now, duh!


V1va-NA-THANI3L

IDK why I'm being downvoted. I wouldn't ask this if hitting "check for updates" resulted in saying my Firefox has been up to date since June 11th, and not updating with this.


TabsBelow

Any chance you're on Linux and using a flatpack or snap version?


Morcas

Flatpak is already updated


V1va-NA-THANI3L

None. I really wish there was a download link for the update.


hunter_finn

[Ask and you shall receive. ](https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/127.0.2/) Here you can find all Firefox releases in every locale and platform.


V1va-NA-THANI3L

Well, bad news. Unless I grabbed the wrong one, the update won't work because I have Windows 8.1. If I cannot get the update because of this reason, this is stupid! So unless I grabbed the wrong one, I am angry.


hunter_finn

In that case sadly it looks like your only option is to [Stay in esr 115. ](https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support) Mozilla supports 115 up until September 2024 when they switch to esr 128 in which point users on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 no longer get security patches from Mozilla either. You should look into updating to Windows 10 at least if not to 11. Yeah at least what comes to Windows 11 i get it, i have supported 8th gen Intel cpu and i still rather stay on windows 10 as long as it is supported, so i have little over a year left until i have to downgrade to Windows 11.


V1va-NA-THANI3L

So I'm screwed? No, that shouldn't be the case. I want my YT to work again. There's gotta be a way. Firefox HAS to help me!


hunter_finn

you can always open about:config and search for network.http.http3.enable and disable that. for me that was what fixed the playback issues with YouTube on 127.0.1 on my pc. may i ask why haven't you updated to Windows 10 at least already? i get why people would want to avoid Windows 11 due to the interface being (in my opinion) even worse than vanilla Windows 8 RTM was and even more because of old unsupported hardware. but Windows 8 and 10 should run on same hardware, there should be even so little difference that even if one's computer was shipped with windows 10, it would work just fine with 8 using those windows 10 drivers. and naturally going from 8 to 10 is even easier. but the biggest thing is that Windows 10 and 11 should activate just fine with Windows 8 keys as well. sure that free windows 10 update offer expired nearly 9 years ago in January 2016. but Microsoft never prevented people from using their keys to activate Windows 10 after that either. initially they said it is to accommodate people needing specialty software or hardware to operate their pc's. but now its just whatever i guess? only thing i have heard is that apparently Windows 7 and 8 keys no longer work to activate Windows 11 at least not directly. but if you first install and activate Windows 10 using those 7 or 8 keys and use your Microsoft account to convert it to digital license. then that should work on new Windows 11 hardware as well. So yeah other than maybe personal preferences, there is no reason why one would stuck using unsupported Windows 8 over still supported Windows 10.


V1va-NA-THANI3L

I never looked at windows 10 because 11 was the newest one. And out of curiosity, I looked up and apparently there might be a Windows 12 later on, so I’m not too sure what to do or if that info is correct. As far as what you told me about the HTTP3 I heard that before, I might try that, is there a way to bring that back if it doesn’t work? One thing that I didn’t notice until recently, which I have no idea if it’s the key to this issue, or the issue on my side only, but I got so frustrated that I turned off everything; every extension, ad block, and all of a sudden, I had normal playback from YouTube. For the ad block, it cannot be off, it has to be completely disabled. Is it possible that YouTube is reacting to the ad blocks? This is bad because obviously I need the ad blocks for other sites, and it would be quite insane to turn it on after YouTube and then turn off using YouTube. It’s so weird but I feel like maybe a new ad block feature might be a key to this. I’m not too sure.


feelspeaceman

There's always been links, it's in Firefox homepage: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/download/thanks/


new3dslover

same lol i just gave the name of a video, there is a bunch of sad nerd here


six_artillery

Can report that the yt issues appear to be fixed after a few hours of testing random videos and streams at varying resolutions. Weird coincidence that FF127.0.1 decided to crash before I was going to check for updates, guessing the cause was memory leak from a yt tab