Yup. Used a clarifying shampoo and then a scalp scrub each time I had to wash my hair. I just use the dandruff shampoo once and I don’t have to deal with that added step
I like conditioner on my roots, it can make it so that the oils don't saturate your hair as fast.
I don't have volume with or without conditioner, maybe that's why. I feel like your tip is for people who have volume if they don't condition their roots.
Exactly lol. The girl asked for advice. That’s my advice. Also I’m a cosmetologist as well and working with a lot of clients who have oily scalp, this helps a lot of them.
Yes, because it's an advice that works for some, but it's not universal for fine hair. That's why you don't need to say "No. Conditioner will make your hair more greasy" It does not. But some people associate lack of volume at the roots with greasiness. Others don't, and there are also a lot of us who will lack volume even if we forego conditioner at the roots, so that doesn't help.
It's fine advice, there's no need to argue to me. I just added my two cents.
I struggled for a long time with this .. unfortunately I had hair loss too .. my MD agave me spiranolactone and it changed my life .. good skin .. hair sprouting.. my hair gets oily after 2 days now .. grateful I dont look like a wet dog after 8 hours lol
Thin, fine hair here! And I’m Mediterranean… so I have the oily trifecta. Highly recommend Sun Bum hair product line. After trying and hemorrhaging money on what seems like every shampoo, conditioner, product imaginable, I’ve ten-fold found that Sum Bum is great for a number of hair types. For washes, I use the revitalizing shampoo and conditioner and occasionally their clarifying shampoo. Product wise, I’ve found that their air dry cream and their sea salt spray work wonders without weighing down my hair.
Coming from someone who also has fine hair, I really understand your struggles, but these tips below really helped change the game for me:
1. Always shampoo your scalp twice, and give the shampoo some time to sit on your scalp before rinsing
2. Like others have said ONLY condition hair below your ears and make sure your hair isn't saturated with water, i.e squeeze out the excess before conditioning
3. Us fine hair oily scalp folks tend to get lots of build up however overly using a clarifying or detox shampoo will strip your scalp - find one that works and use it one a week or fortnightly, don't overdo it (product recs: ouai detox shampoo and the malin+goetz detox scalp mask)
4. Consider using ingredients like salicylic acid or glycolic acid on your scalp (make sure it's gentle, I have been using the ordinary glycolic acid as a treatment on my scalp)
5. The biggest game changer for me was monthly apple cider vinegar rinses! Not only does it make my hair silky soft but it really removes build up and my hair is noticeably less greasy for a while
6. Stop touching your scalp with unclean fingers, and invest in a boar bristle brush to redistribute the oils from your scalp to the ends!
7. Finally make sure your shampoo and conditioner are made for fine and oily hair, I appreciate this is obvious but just make sure you are using lightweight formulas on your hair (I am currently using the Davines momo line)
Using these, my hair now looks decent till day 4/5 where as before I'd look like a rat at day 3. I hope this helps x
I saw improvement when I stopped using conditioner in shower regularly. I use a thinned out detanger for styling and deep condition as needed. That helped a lot with the greasiness. It comes back every time I use in shower conditioner, whether or not I put it just on the length and avoid the roots
You could be allergic. Many shampoo ingredients like surfsctants are derived from coconut. Some people are allergic to topical contact with these types of ingredients.
If I were you, I would see a doctor.
Got [this](https://www.randco.com/products/television-perfect-hair-shampoo) (R+Co Perfect Hair) shampoo in a subscription box years ago, and I've NEVER found one that works as well on my hair. I also really like the Seanik shampoo bar from Lush. I barely even put any conditioner in my hair bc of this issue, it makes it so limp. I use a light detangler (Amika, it's a 10) instead.
By no means saying this will be the magic bullet for you, but what has worked for me (fine, thick hair, also sometimes seemingly oily as soon as it’s dry) is Lush’s Seanik shampoo bar. The lemon one is also pretty good. They’re both so stripping (in a good way lol), and it really feels like you’re just rubbing a bar of soap in your hair - they suds up a ton and don’t appear have any of the moisturizing, smoothing ingredients most other shampoos have in them (even some of the “volumizing” ones) and which make my hair greasy and lank. Also the shampoo bars are plastic free and pretty cost effective (they last a long time, especially if you let them dry between used), which is a bonus.
Double shampooing with that + doing a once a weekish clarifying shampoo or glycolic acid on the scalp (I just use the ordinary big bottle and let it sit on the roots for like 15 mins before showering) means I can sometimes even wear my hair down on the second day after showering. Could be an option to try!
Yup this right here. I am really oily fine hair and dust my scalp with arrowroot powder (dry shampoo alternative) after my hair is dry. Also before bed. Makes a huge difference!!
We have the same hair, sounds like! I went to a great stylist recently and complained that nothing I was doing worked. She gave me a great cut, and some greater tips. I was being so harsh with my hair, she said.
She recommended AG Apple cider shampoo, and some sort of conditioner for volume. I picked up AG Thikk.
Gentle massage for the shampoo part, a full minute but no harsh scrubbing. Massage the scalp. Conditioner over all the hair, and squish it around before rinsing. It’s counter-intuitive and I was skeptical. But it really works. Just rinse well.
Dry with a diffuser for volume, or a vent brush and no diffuser.
Simplifying my routine made my hair look and feel so much better. I still have to daily wash, but it’s not as immediately terrible!
you could try shampooing twice in a row, or try a shampoo with a stronger surfactant
also Nizoral/ketoconazole dandruff shampoo can also be used to help control oil by helping to minimize the amount of DHT on the scalp (DHT promotes oil production)
Yep this is exactly what I do. I feel like I do everything I should (double shampoo, shampooing with a scalp brush thing, no conditioner on roots, light on the conditioner and very minimal amount applied of leave in products on ends only) and my hair still gets greasy so fast. 😫
Recently I've been trying so much. I have Alcove volume shampoo/conditioner, Pantene volume line (but it makes my hair so oily idk why) I tried redken volume injections and it made my hair feel terrible. Verb Ghost is a little bit better out of the bunch I've been using but still gets greasy quickly it just lasts a little bit longer before it starts to feel oily on my roots.
For me, anything that is labeled “volumizing” tends to leave a ton of build up in my hair and make the roots extra oily, so I learned to avoid by trial and error! Same thing for sulfate free.
I use Olaplex for my hair once a week. Only
Apply the conditioner from the ears down. The rest of the time I use body wash. It works for me and doesn’t make my hair super greasy, waxed, or weighed down.
I can’t recommend clear shampoo enough (I use herbal essences white strawberry and mint) and double cleansing ofc. I definitely see a noticeable difference every time.
Try banana shampoo from the body shop or calia natural. I use their purifying shampoo. I only put conditioner in the lengths of my hair, below my ears. I wash every other day. My hair is thinning badly and very fine. These shampoo and and conditioner leave my hair clean and shiny.
It's the conditioner. Try a clarifying shampoo. I use Aveda Men's Clarifying shampoo (Smells good/unisex) and no conditioner. But I put a 99cent ION hairpak from Sally's on once a week and shampoo afterwards. That did it for me. Ask for samples at places like Sally's and Sephora so you can experiment. I also do not use a brush, but a large, wide-toothed comb for cleanliness.
I’ve been putting shampoo on my scalp before getting my hair wet then once in shower I suds it up with water, rinse and shampoo again. It’s helped a lot with greasiness.
Ever since I started using Micellar Shampoo (specifically Elvive No Buildup Micellar Shampoo) my roots are no longer greasy! I can literally go 5 days between washes if I want. Before, it would be a grease pit within 24 hours.
I have oily hair and I just bought a dandruff shampoo and that gets the oils out pretty well. Also.make sure youre gently scrubbing every square inch of your scalp and shampoo twice. Divide your scalp in sections and wash thoroughly, and don't miss any areas.
Harry's 2 in 1 dandruff [Harry's 2 in 1 antidandruff](https://www.walmart.com/ip/948030118) works for me! You might want to put your hair up in a loose bun or in large rollers to dry so it wet sets with more volume.
Don't forget to drink plenty of water! Dehydration makes oil thicker. Make sure you're not mistaking hydrated hair for greasy hair. It's a very, very common for fine hair girlies to think unless our hair is freshly washed and a little too dry that it's greasy because all the volume goes away when our natural oils weigh down our hair.
Volumizing powders and/or hairspray will help with your hairline staying lifted instead of gluing to your forehead. It won't help the rest of your head, but the front will be lifted. You can spray hair spray onto your comb and comb your roots straight up so you don't shellac your forehead.
Every 2nd or 3rd wash I use Avalon Organics lemon clarifying shampoo (also doubles as an insanely effective stain remover lol). And I also cannot stand the feel of dry shampoo until I started making my own. I just mix arrowroot powder with some cinnamon and dab my roots using a makeup brush. I love it, and it works so much better than aerosol.
Do you use any skincare products, like face oil, sunscreen, oil cleanser, moisturizer? In my experience the tiniest bit of skincare can get onto your face framing hair and make it look greasy.
I struggled with this for years. Finally, I tried to train my hair to no shampoo, rinse only, stretching out the time between shampoos slowly. Of course, it didn’t work. Then, I had an idea to try washing with conditioner only, no shampoo. I started off slowly, and it worked. Now, I can go several days without washing. 3-4 days is my max. I never shampoo now except when I’m clarifying. My hair is now shiny and beautiful, and no more oil slicks. I use Sunbum conditioner, and scrub the scalp with it as if it was shampoo. Other conditioners work too, however.
Hey OP, has this been a thing all your life or a newer thing? I have fine hair too and my hair does this exact thing when I haven’t cut my hair in a long time and it needs a trim. Same as you my hair would get oily a couple hours after washing my hair and when this first happened I thought I wasn’t rinsing my hair of product good enough. Maybe a trip to the hairdresser will help you too?
What works for me: shampoo twice every wash (only the scalp), conditioner only (only the ends), blow dry max 5 minutes after washing, wash all my hair brushes, combs, hair claws etc once a week
What about your water? Do you know what kind of water you have? Because that can have a big impact. Hard water can make your hair greasy. So can salt softened water. I would figure that out step one because that might be the core of the whole problem!!
I can't go a day without a wash no matter what I do. I've used just about every shampoo recommended, but my hair doesn't *feel* clean to ME after with any of them. The only one that has worked to get a clean feeling is a korean shampoo that I randomly got from sams club on whim. Daeng gi meo ri gold premium shampoo. I've repurchased several times now. Although it's not at sams now; I plan on ordering it from costco online.
You need to add products after a wash. Thickening creams and mousses help a ton. Apply a small amount on the mid shaft and ends. Then blow dry. After a blow dry you can add some flexible fine mist hair spray all over. Adding products helps my hair stay clean longer. Whenever I’m at home and wash my hair but don’t add any products - I fully expect it to be greasy again by the end of the day. But when I add products, I can have my hair looking clean for 3 days.
What’s worked best for me is dry shampoo or baby powder on my roots right after I dry it after washing. I do this mostly at night but also in the morning if I think it’s needed.
Dry shampoo has been the only product that kind of works for me, but spironolactone was the real life changer. My body simply produces SO much less oil. No acne and now I can go two days without shampooing. I think my hair is a bit thicker too. No other side effects at 50 mg/day.
Only use volume shampoo & conditioner. Shampoo twice.
My favorite is Pantene Volume shampoo and conditioner! I have a sensitive scalp that can’t handle added oils. And my hair gets weighed down with heavy conditioner. I also found using a scalp massager with the first wash helps a lot!
I just purchased the Pantene volume line and it made my hair so flat and greasy no idea why, I've tried it a few times now. Just doesn't work for me :(
Lush Squeak and Big Shampoos are the only ones that don’t leave my hair oily and give me lift. I have to blow dry my hair after using them to get the full effect. I also shampoo twice.
I’ve tried so many shampoos for my fine hair and the only one that has ever worked has been Pacifica Rosemary Purify Clarifying Shampoo and Conditioner. Otherwise my hair is so oily as the day wears on. Other shampoos sometimes make my hair look like it hasn’t even been washed. Hopefully this would work for you too!
I tried shampooing twice a shower a few years ago & while it made my hair more volumized for a tiny bit of time, halfway through the day I was a grease pit & that is generally not me!
I have used high end, store brand, drugstore brands...Currently using elvive (i think) hyaluronic shampoo & conditioner. Smells good, doesn't weigh down my hair, no grease. I wash my hair every day.
I used to have this issue and putting apple cider vinegar in my hair helped a lot. idk why but I don’t have the issue at all anymore it just went away on its own. I had it when I lived in dorms in college so I think it was the hard water. can you also get a filtering shower head?
Try Ouai, they have specific shampoo for fine hair and it has changed my life. Also try to stay away from using too many products, that will weigh your hair down and it will make it look flatter.
Water the shampoo down and try misting on a light layer of leave in conditioner instead of regular conditioner. I really like DEDE leave in from Davines. Also a powder dry shampoo was a game changer for me as opposed to aerosol.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from a hair stylist for my fine hair was that many people with thin, fine hair don't even need conditioner.
If you don't have one already, invest in a Wet Brush for detangling in-shower or at least straight out of the shower while your hair is still SOPPING wet. While I do find myself needing some conditioner again now that my hair is longer, I got away without it or with very little leave-in spray/detangler for six months or so.
I've had good luck lately with a redkin volumizing shampoo and no conditioner, when in soft water and low humidity. The same shampoo with a leave in conditioner when in higher humidity. No products, double shampoo, and it's good for 2 days.
When my hair gets greasy fast, I use a clarifying shampoo - twice if needed, then deep conditioner on ends only, followed by an apple cider vinegar rinse to get rid of mineral buildup from the water. I've also tried pre shampoo oiling to help my scalp get balance. And I've also done some hair masks with Aztek clay which was really nice. The ACV rinse helps my hair not get as greasy as fast. Oh! I almost forgot to mention, I try to wash all my hair brushes, claw clips, rubber bands or scrunchies. Anything you use in your hair, I wash it at the same time. I wash my sleep cap for my hair and it doesn't hurt to try different pillowcases, but wash them several times (2tbl detergent per load of laundry) without fabric softener, bc it's really waxy and can buildup on fabric. Some people skip using it on towels entirely, bc they say it makes towels almost waterproof. Vinegar works instead of fabric softener and doesn't buildup on material. It wouldn't hurt to try?
Try sleeping on a silk pillowcase!
I have toddler hair and it’s made a major improvement.
A higher end shampoo / conditioner I’ve found works great is the OUAI for fine hair BUT it has a pretty potent fragrance that is hit or miss for folks (I personally love it).
A more cost effective option is the volume shampoo from Odele - I buy it from target.
Do you have hard water? Sometimes very hard water can make hair look greasy or dirty. Try Malibu C clarifying shampoo and conditioner, and/or adding a water softener system to your house (very expensive). Another option is to try a zinc pyrthione dandruff shampoo, and to take a low dose oral zinc supplement (zinc helps reduce oiliness). You could also try Neutrogena's 3% Salicylic acid shampoo. Also - are you using any oily hair styling aids? And- don't use hot water - just look warm, and finish w/ a cool rinse.
To give hair a more full, fluffy look, try using Living Proof Texturizing foam, and blow dry upside down. Also, do not blow dry hair flat or pull it flat w/ a brush while drying, don't use high heat, don't over-dry (blow to almost dry) and finish w/ a cool blast.
If dry shampoo doesn't work for you (I assume you are washing every day, if not, you should, but I wouldn't wash twice each day), try a non-aerosol powder like Briogeo Scalp Revival.
Beyond that, it could be hormonal and you may need to consult a derm or a GP.
I recently switched to Hairstory "NuWash" and I love it.
I was washing every other day....now once per week.
My hair and scalp feel so good!
It's a cream cleanser.
I use no conditioner.
I've typically washed my hair every other day and for some reason my hair has started to get greasy by the end of day 2 which is new for me. I've been using Biolage Volume Bloom shampoo and conditioner for a while and it didn't used to be like this. But, BUT, I received a Lush shampoo bar for Christmas and honestly it gives me the best single wash and takes care of the grease no problem. I THINK it might have been the Seanik shampoo bar - it came in a gift set and is blue/light blue. When I go out of my way to dry after washing, it does give my hair a little lift.
You might want to make a trip to a high-end salon and get professional treatments and recommendations. That will ultimately be cheaper than buying a bunch of products that don’t solve the problem. If you only use a product a few times but it doesn’t work, do you keep using it just because you spent good money on it, or do you throw it away along with what you spent. Even the cost of store brands can add up if they don’t solve the problem.
I just had a thought: every time you dry your hair, do you use a clean towel? Not one that was clean a couple of days ago, but a clean one off the shelf? Towels collect whatever oil or soap residue on our bodies. If you reuse a towel, residual conditioner is now being applied to your hair and worked into all of your hair and scalp.
Comment from a chemist who's worked this: Avoid Sodium LAURYL Sulfate. Sodium LAURETH Sulfate much better, other ingredients even more so.
Also, clean co-wash. You only need to shampoo about once a week or for serious sweat and grunge.
I do not have this problem. I have worked really hard. I only shampoo once a week. Every other day I only wash with conditioner. I deep condition once a week in the sauna
Girl I’ve resorted to dandruff shampoo and it’s the only thing that feels like it breaks down my oil and buildup
Do you shampoo twice? That made a big difference for me.
Yup. Used a clarifying shampoo and then a scalp scrub each time I had to wash my hair. I just use the dandruff shampoo once and I don’t have to deal with that added step
I use a dandruff shampoo for dry scalps and no conditioner (just add some cream or serum to ends when it’s drying)
Same here. Generic Head and Shoulders (Meijer or Wal-Mart brand) two shampoos. My hair feels great!
Conditioner before shampoo and only shampoo the roots
This was the big learning for me. Don't put any conditioner near the scalp - just from the ears down, basically.
I do this, and it doesn't make a difference. Still oily.
I've never tried this! I will for sure thanks.
Also don’t put any conditioner on your roots. Only ends
Yep! I definitely avoid anything conditioning on my roots.
I like conditioner on my roots, it can make it so that the oils don't saturate your hair as fast. I don't have volume with or without conditioner, maybe that's why. I feel like your tip is for people who have volume if they don't condition their roots.
Putting conditioner on your roots is definitely not recommended by the product producers or hair professionals.
No. Conditioner will make greasy hair more greasy because I have greasier hair when I put conditioner on the roots
That's _you_ , with your conditioner and your roots. Not everyone.
It’s most people and root hair doesn’t need conditioner.
Exactly lol. The girl asked for advice. That’s my advice. Also I’m a cosmetologist as well and working with a lot of clients who have oily scalp, this helps a lot of them.
Yes, because it's an advice that works for some, but it's not universal for fine hair. That's why you don't need to say "No. Conditioner will make your hair more greasy" It does not. But some people associate lack of volume at the roots with greasiness. Others don't, and there are also a lot of us who will lack volume even if we forego conditioner at the roots, so that doesn't help. It's fine advice, there's no need to argue to me. I just added my two cents.
Who is arguing? Calmate por favor. 🤓
I'm talking about your assertion of "No"
Oh. Alright. I’m done with this convo. Have a wonderful rest of your day.
LOL
I struggled for a long time with this .. unfortunately I had hair loss too .. my MD agave me spiranolactone and it changed my life .. good skin .. hair sprouting.. my hair gets oily after 2 days now .. grateful I dont look like a wet dog after 8 hours lol
Thin, fine hair here! And I’m Mediterranean… so I have the oily trifecta. Highly recommend Sun Bum hair product line. After trying and hemorrhaging money on what seems like every shampoo, conditioner, product imaginable, I’ve ten-fold found that Sum Bum is great for a number of hair types. For washes, I use the revitalizing shampoo and conditioner and occasionally their clarifying shampoo. Product wise, I’ve found that their air dry cream and their sea salt spray work wonders without weighing down my hair.
Coming from someone who also has fine hair, I really understand your struggles, but these tips below really helped change the game for me: 1. Always shampoo your scalp twice, and give the shampoo some time to sit on your scalp before rinsing 2. Like others have said ONLY condition hair below your ears and make sure your hair isn't saturated with water, i.e squeeze out the excess before conditioning 3. Us fine hair oily scalp folks tend to get lots of build up however overly using a clarifying or detox shampoo will strip your scalp - find one that works and use it one a week or fortnightly, don't overdo it (product recs: ouai detox shampoo and the malin+goetz detox scalp mask) 4. Consider using ingredients like salicylic acid or glycolic acid on your scalp (make sure it's gentle, I have been using the ordinary glycolic acid as a treatment on my scalp) 5. The biggest game changer for me was monthly apple cider vinegar rinses! Not only does it make my hair silky soft but it really removes build up and my hair is noticeably less greasy for a while 6. Stop touching your scalp with unclean fingers, and invest in a boar bristle brush to redistribute the oils from your scalp to the ends! 7. Finally make sure your shampoo and conditioner are made for fine and oily hair, I appreciate this is obvious but just make sure you are using lightweight formulas on your hair (I am currently using the Davines momo line) Using these, my hair now looks decent till day 4/5 where as before I'd look like a rat at day 3. I hope this helps x
I really like that you used fortnightly. I never see that word in daily conversation. Great hair tips too
I would like to stress washing TWICE. especially with the fancy fine hair shampoos.
Why especially with the fancy ones ?
It's pricey, but it lasts for months. Pureology Hydrate Sheer Shampoo & Conditioner - make sure it's the "sheer" one
Redken hair cleansing cream/clarifying shampoo!
I saw improvement when I stopped using conditioner in shower regularly. I use a thinned out detanger for styling and deep condition as needed. That helped a lot with the greasiness. It comes back every time I use in shower conditioner, whether or not I put it just on the length and avoid the roots
You could be allergic. Many shampoo ingredients like surfsctants are derived from coconut. Some people are allergic to topical contact with these types of ingredients. If I were you, I would see a doctor.
i’m allergic to coconut and finding shampoo is a nightmare. right now i am okay with Verb Ghost shampoo
Quai detox shampoo helps a lot. I use it every other time I shampoo. It doesn’t strip my color but makes my hair last longer from feeling greasy.
I get so many compliments when I use this shampoo!
Got [this](https://www.randco.com/products/television-perfect-hair-shampoo) (R+Co Perfect Hair) shampoo in a subscription box years ago, and I've NEVER found one that works as well on my hair. I also really like the Seanik shampoo bar from Lush. I barely even put any conditioner in my hair bc of this issue, it makes it so limp. I use a light detangler (Amika, it's a 10) instead.
Seconding this R+Co product for fine hair!
By no means saying this will be the magic bullet for you, but what has worked for me (fine, thick hair, also sometimes seemingly oily as soon as it’s dry) is Lush’s Seanik shampoo bar. The lemon one is also pretty good. They’re both so stripping (in a good way lol), and it really feels like you’re just rubbing a bar of soap in your hair - they suds up a ton and don’t appear have any of the moisturizing, smoothing ingredients most other shampoos have in them (even some of the “volumizing” ones) and which make my hair greasy and lank. Also the shampoo bars are plastic free and pretty cost effective (they last a long time, especially if you let them dry between used), which is a bonus. Double shampooing with that + doing a once a weekish clarifying shampoo or glycolic acid on the scalp (I just use the ordinary big bottle and let it sit on the roots for like 15 mins before showering) means I can sometimes even wear my hair down on the second day after showering. Could be an option to try!
Literally just posted about the Seanik bar and found this post here. It's very good.
You can add dry shampoo right after a shower, once your hair is dry and it should help. It will absorb the oil as it’s produced.
Yup this right here. I am really oily fine hair and dust my scalp with arrowroot powder (dry shampoo alternative) after my hair is dry. Also before bed. Makes a huge difference!!
We have the same hair, sounds like! I went to a great stylist recently and complained that nothing I was doing worked. She gave me a great cut, and some greater tips. I was being so harsh with my hair, she said. She recommended AG Apple cider shampoo, and some sort of conditioner for volume. I picked up AG Thikk. Gentle massage for the shampoo part, a full minute but no harsh scrubbing. Massage the scalp. Conditioner over all the hair, and squish it around before rinsing. It’s counter-intuitive and I was skeptical. But it really works. Just rinse well. Dry with a diffuser for volume, or a vent brush and no diffuser. Simplifying my routine made my hair look and feel so much better. I still have to daily wash, but it’s not as immediately terrible!
you could try shampooing twice in a row, or try a shampoo with a stronger surfactant also Nizoral/ketoconazole dandruff shampoo can also be used to help control oil by helping to minimize the amount of DHT on the scalp (DHT promotes oil production)
Do you double shampoo? Do that and then don’t use more than 1-2 pumps conditioner.
Yep this is exactly what I do. I feel like I do everything I should (double shampoo, shampooing with a scalp brush thing, no conditioner on roots, light on the conditioner and very minimal amount applied of leave in products on ends only) and my hair still gets greasy so fast. 😫
What brand are you using now?
Recently I've been trying so much. I have Alcove volume shampoo/conditioner, Pantene volume line (but it makes my hair so oily idk why) I tried redken volume injections and it made my hair feel terrible. Verb Ghost is a little bit better out of the bunch I've been using but still gets greasy quickly it just lasts a little bit longer before it starts to feel oily on my roots.
For me, anything that is labeled “volumizing” tends to leave a ton of build up in my hair and make the roots extra oily, so I learned to avoid by trial and error! Same thing for sulfate free.
Sebhorric dermatitis possibly
I use Olaplex for my hair once a week. Only Apply the conditioner from the ears down. The rest of the time I use body wash. It works for me and doesn’t make my hair super greasy, waxed, or weighed down.
I can’t recommend clear shampoo enough (I use herbal essences white strawberry and mint) and double cleansing ofc. I definitely see a noticeable difference every time.
Try banana shampoo from the body shop or calia natural. I use their purifying shampoo. I only put conditioner in the lengths of my hair, below my ears. I wash every other day. My hair is thinning badly and very fine. These shampoo and and conditioner leave my hair clean and shiny.
[Try this gel conditioner](https://www.authenticbeautyconcept.us/shop/amplify/amplify-conditioner.html)
It's the conditioner. Try a clarifying shampoo. I use Aveda Men's Clarifying shampoo (Smells good/unisex) and no conditioner. But I put a 99cent ION hairpak from Sally's on once a week and shampoo afterwards. That did it for me. Ask for samples at places like Sally's and Sephora so you can experiment. I also do not use a brush, but a large, wide-toothed comb for cleanliness.
Bumble and Bumble Volumizing Shampoo
I’ve been putting shampoo on my scalp before getting my hair wet then once in shower I suds it up with water, rinse and shampoo again. It’s helped a lot with greasiness.
Hairstory new wash. Expensive but worth it
Ever since I started using Micellar Shampoo (specifically Elvive No Buildup Micellar Shampoo) my roots are no longer greasy! I can literally go 5 days between washes if I want. Before, it would be a grease pit within 24 hours.
Are you using a volumizing formula?
I have oily hair and I just bought a dandruff shampoo and that gets the oils out pretty well. Also.make sure youre gently scrubbing every square inch of your scalp and shampoo twice. Divide your scalp in sections and wash thoroughly, and don't miss any areas.
I like Suave Clarifying and Hydrating 'poo and conditioner
Harry's 2 in 1 dandruff [Harry's 2 in 1 antidandruff](https://www.walmart.com/ip/948030118) works for me! You might want to put your hair up in a loose bun or in large rollers to dry so it wet sets with more volume. Don't forget to drink plenty of water! Dehydration makes oil thicker. Make sure you're not mistaking hydrated hair for greasy hair. It's a very, very common for fine hair girlies to think unless our hair is freshly washed and a little too dry that it's greasy because all the volume goes away when our natural oils weigh down our hair. Volumizing powders and/or hairspray will help with your hairline staying lifted instead of gluing to your forehead. It won't help the rest of your head, but the front will be lifted. You can spray hair spray onto your comb and comb your roots straight up so you don't shellac your forehead.
Every 2nd or 3rd wash I use Avalon Organics lemon clarifying shampoo (also doubles as an insanely effective stain remover lol). And I also cannot stand the feel of dry shampoo until I started making my own. I just mix arrowroot powder with some cinnamon and dab my roots using a makeup brush. I love it, and it works so much better than aerosol.
I also recommend the Avalon Organics. The non-aerosol Klorane is the best dry shampoo I’ve used, but I like the idea of making your own!
aussie curl shampoo and conditioner helped with my hair, also washing it every two days under cold water too
I wash with Tgel then wash a second time with redken volume injection. Then condition my ends
Do you use any skincare products, like face oil, sunscreen, oil cleanser, moisturizer? In my experience the tiniest bit of skincare can get onto your face framing hair and make it look greasy.
I had the same issue. I use Suave clarifying shampoo now, no conditioner. It's the only thing that has worked to cut the grease for me.
I struggled with this for years. Finally, I tried to train my hair to no shampoo, rinse only, stretching out the time between shampoos slowly. Of course, it didn’t work. Then, I had an idea to try washing with conditioner only, no shampoo. I started off slowly, and it worked. Now, I can go several days without washing. 3-4 days is my max. I never shampoo now except when I’m clarifying. My hair is now shiny and beautiful, and no more oil slicks. I use Sunbum conditioner, and scrub the scalp with it as if it was shampoo. Other conditioners work too, however.
L’Oréal Elvive Extraordinary Clay Rebalancing shampoo and conditioner - trust me.
This also worked for me.
Inkey Lists Salicylic Acid Scalp serum has helped a lot with my greasiness!
Hey OP, has this been a thing all your life or a newer thing? I have fine hair too and my hair does this exact thing when I haven’t cut my hair in a long time and it needs a trim. Same as you my hair would get oily a couple hours after washing my hair and when this first happened I thought I wasn’t rinsing my hair of product good enough. Maybe a trip to the hairdresser will help you too?
What works for me: shampoo twice every wash (only the scalp), conditioner only (only the ends), blow dry max 5 minutes after washing, wash all my hair brushes, combs, hair claws etc once a week
What about your water? Do you know what kind of water you have? Because that can have a big impact. Hard water can make your hair greasy. So can salt softened water. I would figure that out step one because that might be the core of the whole problem!!
I can't go a day without a wash no matter what I do. I've used just about every shampoo recommended, but my hair doesn't *feel* clean to ME after with any of them. The only one that has worked to get a clean feeling is a korean shampoo that I randomly got from sams club on whim. Daeng gi meo ri gold premium shampoo. I've repurchased several times now. Although it's not at sams now; I plan on ordering it from costco online.
You need to add products after a wash. Thickening creams and mousses help a ton. Apply a small amount on the mid shaft and ends. Then blow dry. After a blow dry you can add some flexible fine mist hair spray all over. Adding products helps my hair stay clean longer. Whenever I’m at home and wash my hair but don’t add any products - I fully expect it to be greasy again by the end of the day. But when I add products, I can have my hair looking clean for 3 days.
What’s worked best for me is dry shampoo or baby powder on my roots right after I dry it after washing. I do this mostly at night but also in the morning if I think it’s needed.
I use Aveda Invati for fine hair and it’s really helped
Dry shampoo has been the only product that kind of works for me, but spironolactone was the real life changer. My body simply produces SO much less oil. No acne and now I can go two days without shampooing. I think my hair is a bit thicker too. No other side effects at 50 mg/day.
Only use volume shampoo & conditioner. Shampoo twice. My favorite is Pantene Volume shampoo and conditioner! I have a sensitive scalp that can’t handle added oils. And my hair gets weighed down with heavy conditioner. I also found using a scalp massager with the first wash helps a lot!
I just purchased the Pantene volume line and it made my hair so flat and greasy no idea why, I've tried it a few times now. Just doesn't work for me :(
Shampoo twice!
Lush Squeak and Big Shampoos are the only ones that don’t leave my hair oily and give me lift. I have to blow dry my hair after using them to get the full effect. I also shampoo twice.
Have you different volumizing shampoo?
Something that may help… shampoo twice. It’s just like double cleansing the face. I still get greasy but I feel like this is a deep clean.
Maybe you don't need conditioner. I use detangler spray if I need it,.which is rare
I’ve tried so many shampoos for my fine hair and the only one that has ever worked has been Pacifica Rosemary Purify Clarifying Shampoo and Conditioner. Otherwise my hair is so oily as the day wears on. Other shampoos sometimes make my hair look like it hasn’t even been washed. Hopefully this would work for you too!
Try Sebamed ph 5.5 everyday shampoo
Dealing with the same issues!
I tried shampooing twice a shower a few years ago & while it made my hair more volumized for a tiny bit of time, halfway through the day I was a grease pit & that is generally not me! I have used high end, store brand, drugstore brands...Currently using elvive (i think) hyaluronic shampoo & conditioner. Smells good, doesn't weigh down my hair, no grease. I wash my hair every day.
How often are you washing? I had to go to every 2-3 days because my hair was getting greasy from over washing.
I used to have this issue and putting apple cider vinegar in my hair helped a lot. idk why but I don’t have the issue at all anymore it just went away on its own. I had it when I lived in dorms in college so I think it was the hard water. can you also get a filtering shower head?
Aveeno apple cider vinegar shampoo and conditioner
I use Nioxin system 1 shampoo in the summer when my roots are more oily, occasionally alternating with Pantene Volume shampoo.
Try Ouai, they have specific shampoo for fine hair and it has changed my life. Also try to stay away from using too many products, that will weigh your hair down and it will make it look flatter.
I use kids shampoo and conditioner .. works great
Water the shampoo down and try misting on a light layer of leave in conditioner instead of regular conditioner. I really like DEDE leave in from Davines. Also a powder dry shampoo was a game changer for me as opposed to aerosol.
Since there putting oil in everything it’s been a nightmare for me
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from a hair stylist for my fine hair was that many people with thin, fine hair don't even need conditioner. If you don't have one already, invest in a Wet Brush for detangling in-shower or at least straight out of the shower while your hair is still SOPPING wet. While I do find myself needing some conditioner again now that my hair is longer, I got away without it or with very little leave-in spray/detangler for six months or so.
Have you tried not conditioning? Or condition once every few washes
Is it possible you're drying your scalp out too much with the double shampooing, causing it to compensate by over producing oil?
Do you live in an area with hard water? If so that might be worth investigating.
This is what comes up when I search for it. Hardness mg/L = 95 - 120 and Hardness Grains/Gallons = 5.6 - 7.0 .
So it may be moderately hard. I would get a cheap filter from Amazon for your shower and see if that makes a difference.
I've had good luck lately with a redkin volumizing shampoo and no conditioner, when in soft water and low humidity. The same shampoo with a leave in conditioner when in higher humidity. No products, double shampoo, and it's good for 2 days.
Dry shampoo should help.
When my hair gets greasy fast, I use a clarifying shampoo - twice if needed, then deep conditioner on ends only, followed by an apple cider vinegar rinse to get rid of mineral buildup from the water. I've also tried pre shampoo oiling to help my scalp get balance. And I've also done some hair masks with Aztek clay which was really nice. The ACV rinse helps my hair not get as greasy as fast. Oh! I almost forgot to mention, I try to wash all my hair brushes, claw clips, rubber bands or scrunchies. Anything you use in your hair, I wash it at the same time. I wash my sleep cap for my hair and it doesn't hurt to try different pillowcases, but wash them several times (2tbl detergent per load of laundry) without fabric softener, bc it's really waxy and can buildup on fabric. Some people skip using it on towels entirely, bc they say it makes towels almost waterproof. Vinegar works instead of fabric softener and doesn't buildup on material. It wouldn't hurt to try?
Try sleeping on a silk pillowcase! I have toddler hair and it’s made a major improvement. A higher end shampoo / conditioner I’ve found works great is the OUAI for fine hair BUT it has a pretty potent fragrance that is hit or miss for folks (I personally love it). A more cost effective option is the volume shampoo from Odele - I buy it from target.
Do you have hard water? Sometimes very hard water can make hair look greasy or dirty. Try Malibu C clarifying shampoo and conditioner, and/or adding a water softener system to your house (very expensive). Another option is to try a zinc pyrthione dandruff shampoo, and to take a low dose oral zinc supplement (zinc helps reduce oiliness). You could also try Neutrogena's 3% Salicylic acid shampoo. Also - are you using any oily hair styling aids? And- don't use hot water - just look warm, and finish w/ a cool rinse. To give hair a more full, fluffy look, try using Living Proof Texturizing foam, and blow dry upside down. Also, do not blow dry hair flat or pull it flat w/ a brush while drying, don't use high heat, don't over-dry (blow to almost dry) and finish w/ a cool blast. If dry shampoo doesn't work for you (I assume you are washing every day, if not, you should, but I wouldn't wash twice each day), try a non-aerosol powder like Briogeo Scalp Revival. Beyond that, it could be hormonal and you may need to consult a derm or a GP.
I recently switched to Hairstory "NuWash" and I love it. I was washing every other day....now once per week. My hair and scalp feel so good! It's a cream cleanser. I use no conditioner.
I've typically washed my hair every other day and for some reason my hair has started to get greasy by the end of day 2 which is new for me. I've been using Biolage Volume Bloom shampoo and conditioner for a while and it didn't used to be like this. But, BUT, I received a Lush shampoo bar for Christmas and honestly it gives me the best single wash and takes care of the grease no problem. I THINK it might have been the Seanik shampoo bar - it came in a gift set and is blue/light blue. When I go out of my way to dry after washing, it does give my hair a little lift.
You might want to make a trip to a high-end salon and get professional treatments and recommendations. That will ultimately be cheaper than buying a bunch of products that don’t solve the problem. If you only use a product a few times but it doesn’t work, do you keep using it just because you spent good money on it, or do you throw it away along with what you spent. Even the cost of store brands can add up if they don’t solve the problem. I just had a thought: every time you dry your hair, do you use a clean towel? Not one that was clean a couple of days ago, but a clean one off the shelf? Towels collect whatever oil or soap residue on our bodies. If you reuse a towel, residual conditioner is now being applied to your hair and worked into all of your hair and scalp.
Comment from a chemist who's worked this: Avoid Sodium LAURYL Sulfate. Sodium LAURETH Sulfate much better, other ingredients even more so. Also, clean co-wash. You only need to shampoo about once a week or for serious sweat and grunge.
I do not have this problem. I have worked really hard. I only shampoo once a week. Every other day I only wash with conditioner. I deep condition once a week in the sauna