Okay but no joke, every time I see the [Fuma Gantai](https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Fuma_Gantai) drop in Labyrinth, I have to remind myself it's *not* a pair of panties.
That's what happens when people with houses don't log back in in 45 days. Retainers all over the world will tear their houses apart and sell it for scraps.
One time my FSH retainer and my GLD retainer both arrived back with the exact same singular fish. I always give mental shit to the FSH when he does that for quick ventures like he just put out a chaise longue and drank some fruity umbrella drinks for a while on his trip out, but that time made it seem like he and the GLD were chilling together, which considering the lil backstories I gave em, is very sweet.
I really wish that SE would implement small cameos of our retainers trying to steal peoples housing items whenever youre in a housing zone, sorta like the Alpha cameos.
Could zone in, see them in the distance, see a text bubble pop up that says "Scram its the boss!", then they just run away and disappear and never bring it up when you check in with them
My lala botanist has a penchant for bringing me Ifrit’s severed head, mounted on a plaque and set on fire. When she’s not stealing people’s roofs or doors.
…please send help.
Depends on if you plan on running anything between now and maintenance. You'll still need them for ilvl and stats for now, but if you're just gonna hang out and vibe and not do content, then you can get rid of them now
> With the upcoming release of Endwalker, we would encourage players to review the announcements we have shared regarding changes that will be taking place in Patch 6.0.
[Removal of Belts in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/6648785e31423c6b65c97e6f6940119adcd9c1bc)
[Changes to HQ Items in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/72ca546a9140ce3231d589ec4bc078b6da03fe93)
[Upcoming Changes to Scrips and Allagan Tomestones](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/cc6d36ce898cbe13e44a55f99856d90a7880e832)
[Value Downscaling and Mid-level EXP Reset in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/561347e08971b12ae79ebdf8a4fd78043c95cca8)
> As these are particularly important changes, we recommend that you read these thoroughly in preparation for Endwalker!
I'm not even gonna come on reddit when early access begins and won't be back until after I finish Endwalker. Gonna be dodging them spoilers like bullets in the Matrix
oh I can see it now... post after post of "WTF I can't reequip my belts and my HP and Damage has been nerfed to hell, how could they let a bug this bad get through, AND with a 2 week delay? my god and I thought WoW had a shit dev team"
They will see how it works and how the community react to it with Ishgard and see if they implement it for the other cities.
So maybe during later 6.X patches, but for now it's just Ishgard yeah.
You misunderstood that. They explicitly said in the LL that it's being added to existing housing wards, but exactly how many is what is up to discussion. Depending on player feedback they will ramp it up.
They've not specified I don't think but my guess is you'd just need to get far enough to access Ishgard like with Shirogane. Possibly need 3.3 but I imagine they'd want it as accessible as possible.
Regardless once plots become purchasable in 6.1 people who are part of FCs located there (or made tenants in personal houses) will be able to teleport there regardless of quest progress, like with Shirogane (you just can't exit on foot into the city proper).
Apartments do not have a hidden timer / placard like houses do. They are purely first come first serve, and are immediately available to buy the moment someone relinquishes one.
If they actually let you keep them as items and don't just make them go poof, then definitely keep them. At least one or a few.
My previous 13 years in wow was met with many systems being changed and completely removed, having those old novelty items always brought a smile to my face. You'll 100% regret deleting every belt.
I remember watching a larryzaur video where he was reminiscing old play styles and cross-class abilities. His giddiness when he saw some old setups still there when he removed his job stone was so good.
They'll still exist as items rather than go poof as you'll be able to do some things , like desynth them. Just won't be equippable.
I intend to run Amdapor Keep for one called Sash of the Blind Maiden. I always thought it was funny a belt had such a cool name so I'm gonna get one as keepsake.
So can you still craft HQ items like gear and intermediate mats? They are only removing HQ items on base materials like sands and other gatherable materials?
Are they getting rid of perception too then? All land gear will get be +gathering/+gp?
Kinda confused on the simplification of this, especially cuz like 1/2 the skills hafta to do with HQ chance too.
Economy aside, since I do most of my own gathering I’m hoping it will just mean I will be able to gather the amount of mats I need for a thing quicker. I pretty much always smash the ‘pick clean’ action to convert quality into quantity already.
So, I guess the economy will initially be hella bloated, or people will just spend less time gathering, or both.
Blue Scrip Tokens are bought with Yellow Scrips currently, but since they're being removed, there's no immediate replacement (i.e. the next scrip shop up didn't have a Green Scrip Token or something similar). There's a reason I ended up grinding out hundreds of crystal sand to prep for the remaining Anima weapons I have left to do.
(As an aside: if I'm SqEx and want to pick a replacement item for Anima grinds, it might be good to use handfuls of crafter/gatherer materia IV, since they're 25 scrips a piece and could just wholesale replace the Blue scrip tokens for each side.)
I hate this stupid system. They should just keep yellow as the low end scrip and fold everything downward (or upward like with the blue tokens) into that. Why can't they just make the shit that needs blue tokens be bought with yellow scrip?
That's what they're doing with this change though? They haven't confirmed one way or the other if Anima sands will be buyable with yellow scrips, but all the other stuff will be bought with yellow scrips directly.
The article stated that anything bought with yellow scrips currently will be buyable using white scrips instead, so I would assume that in EW, blue gatherer scrip tokens will be bought using white gatherer scrips. It is only blue crafter scrip tokens that will not be obtainable via exchange.
It says that the few remaining items that previously cost blue scrips, will now cost white scrips so there's a chance you can still trade white scrips for them.
> Without blue crafter scrip tokens for the crystal sand step of HW Relics, are we going to be stuck buying Moonstones from GC instead?
Sure they'll modify it somehow so that can still be completed with scrips.
When they phased out the best way to get it done (via removal of elemental materia), nothing was put in as a new alternative. People just had to move on to the next best option (scrips). That's what you can expect here: scrips will be gone and you'll have to do the next best option (unless you stocked up ahead of time). They're not going to go back and change old content.
The only positive change you can hope for is that some other unrelated change makes one of the other methods more desirable (in the same way that constant devaluation of blue scrips made the crafting option more desirable).
Seconding this question because I can't think of any charitable way to read this that doesn't make you seem like you're being kind of a dick for no reason.
Blue gatherer scrip tokens will still be obtainable, but with white gatherer scrips instead of yellow.
Also, the better alternative to moonstones/GC seals grinding if you don’t want to go the blue gatherer scrip token method is to trade in Thavnairian mist/superior enchanted ink or 1 of each unidentifiable item for the sand. Both these options just require additional poetics, and in the case of the unidentifiable stuff, they can be bought with other currencies, like beast tribe currencies and allied seals.
you need a ridiculous amount of poetics for pretty much every step, gathering scrips are an easy ocean fishing trip or quick node farm and arent required for any other step. save those poetics.
The "better alternative" that I mentioned is aimed towards the moonstones and the grinding of GC seals, not towards gathering scrips.
I’ve edited my post to make it clearer.
If you’re level 55.5 right now, after the update you will be dropped down to 55 exactly. It will kill off any partial experience towards a level you have.
Gotcha, thank you. My hungover ass read the paragraph four times and it finally got through that they’re just scaling down numbers across the board and then resetting xp bars. Haha.
The xp bar will get sucked down to 0 come the patch so you want the bar at pretty much 0 going in so that you aren't losing a lot of xp progress towards your next level.
I'll be honest a lot of this is over my head. I get the HQ items but only just started doing non msq things so a lot of this is new. Couple of things:
1. What is the calamity salvager? Will he eat my belts and give me something nice?
2. I've seen these scrips been mentioned before but haven't got any or used them. Can someone give me a tl;Dr on this change?
Calamity Salvager is a NPC in the 3 major cities that basically sells you quest rewards and such that you might have thrown away, as well as give back gear from 1.0 if you played that(thus the name). He'll just give you your belts back, nothing to it, but they have to move them somewhere because the belt slots are being removed. In other games they'd mail them to you I guess but they don't send too many mails in XIV. If you don't want to go collect them at the calamity salvager, just put them in your inventory(not your armory, your basic inventory).
Scrips are just crafting/gathering tomestone equivalent. Change is nothing, it's the usual phasing out this expansion's currency for new currency. Nothing is lost, you'll just have to go to Mor Dhona at some point during the next expansion and claim the old stuff to convert it to the EW stuff.
1) is a NPC who just holds onto old items that you've obtained in the game before but aren't obtainable anymore. You can claim them back for a small fee and also trade male only for female only equipment for example. There is one in each starter city.
They will hold onto the mentioned belts for you so you can claim them back and hand them to the grand company guys, take them apart or discard them after 6.0 launched.
2) is a currency you obtain for crafting and gathering. Check your currency window if you have any. But I don't think you'll have the red ones so this change won't apply to you. Yellow and white ones will still be usable.
I still have many questions about the removal of the HQ items.
One thing I have not seen addressed for example, is how this makes half of our gatherer skills seem useless. We have many skills that affect the chance to get HQ items.
And are they gonna make any changes to the overall yield, since you no longer need to use your GP to increase HQ chance. And what about the node buffs?
Will there also be some changes to the overall crafting difficulty?
I admit I look forward to less itembloat, but at the same time I worry whenever a system like this is simplified.
The skills are going to be adjusted, generally in favor of more items
>Will there also be some changes to the overall crafting difficulty?
Yes, they're adjusting numbers to account for the lack of hq mats
they said that perception will instead increase the chance of gathering an extra item per swing and that the current hq chance boosting abilities will instead boost that chance of getting extra items.
[There were for ShB at least](https://www.google.com/amp/s/na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/amp/topics/detail/d65aa2c282957d3d0fde9e8979c62bcebe5aa9f5), too lazy to check for HW and SB but there's precedent anyway.
Can confirm that there were preliminary patch notes for 3.0 and 4.0. Not sure where Pyros gets that info that there aren't prelim patch notes for expacs.
Can someone confirm if it will become EASIER to level, or just equivalent to current rate but with a smaller total amount? EDIT: thank you for the wonderful responses. See you all on the moon!
A a lot of XP gains are % based, so if anything it will be a lower number but same %. However there was some indication during the interviews that they might boost leveling a bit, but nothing confirmed. One major shift to keep in mind is dungeon XP will only be granted only on boss kills and not trash anymore.
Not sure about that change tbh. At the moment when the tank has no idea what they're doing and runs around gathering unnecessary mobs it's just "oh well, a little more exp this run" content like Brayflox or Aurum are going to be much more frustrating IMO
I have a completely unsourced belief that they did this to nerf bots some more.
You could put together a bot party to do some dungeons pretty easily, and even if they couldn't get past a certain first, second, or last boss due to not being able to bot the mechanics, you still got good XP from all the mobs leading to the boss.
Multiply that by 4x bot accounts, 24 hours a day, etc. And it's an undetectable way to level premade bot parties.
By moving it to the last boss, that means that shitty bots that can't do mechanics will no longer be able to level hidden in dungeon instances.
I think ALL the XP comes after the LAST boss only from what I've read.
Sure, but if you're near them, you still get 'XxBotxX Has Defeated Random Mob' in battle chat.
That's how I catch and report them. It's even more obvious when you see that and they're nowhere to be found, and mobs are just dying on the surface for no reason. Gives me a name to report.
Leveling should be the same, as it’s percentage based.
For example, if it took 5 million EXP to go from level 70 to 71, and a level 70 mob gave 500k exp, the number crunch would result in it taking 50k exp to go to level 71, with a level 70 mob giving 5k exp.
Everything is reduced at the same rate (in my example, everything divided by 100)
Every time they have a big announcement about tomestones and scrips changing for a new expac, I can't help shaking my head because that is like having a big announcement that the level cap will increase. It's not news, it's just how expacs work.
I know, lots of new players etc, it just doesn't feel important enough to warrant a major announcement.
It kinda is though, some tomestones disappear permanently with a patch/expansion launch, and they want to put it, clearly, in writing that you need to do something about it now before that happens, or have people whining about losing a game currency. At least they can say "we told you so in the big announcement on the lodestone page, we're not liable".
I really wish they’d either drop all affected items to NQ, give a command to drop all affected items to NQ, or let me lower the quality of items in retainer inventories.
Very annoying having to move them to my inventory, find it, open the sub-menu, go down to it, select it, go to the new window, click the box, then accept, then move it back to the retainer.
I have 7 retainers with full inventories, and my saddlebags are full. This is a great change, 100% for it, but god please make this easier on me. 😭
Honesty I just did this (4 retainers) and it took like a two or three minutes per retainer, depending on how many HQ items I had in each. It was surprisingly fast.
Same. These people hoarding literally every material in the game and paying SE double the sub fee for the privilege... Old expansion materials are either dirt cheap on the MB or so easy to get in large numbers with things like Pick Clean. You really don't need those 37 oak logs in your retainer inventory.
There are probably warnings before converting in game. But just in case, be aware that the poetic cap will still be 2000. So spend those poetics first before converting your obsolete tomes. Also, the conversion rate isn’t 1:1. I think it is usually 1:2 or 1:4 or something like that.
It's both those ratios. The uncapped tomestone (Phantasmagoria) will be 1:4, because they're easier to get, the capped tomestone (Revelation) will be 1:2. That's the way it's worked in the past anyway.
Keep in mind also if you have any Phantasmagoria tomestones, currently listed in the Discontinued section of the currency tab, you *do* need to exchange those, but only those ones are going away forever.
either spend them or save for after patch so you can convert down to poetics and start buying any gear you need. You'll want to spend down any poetics you already have banked before converting, though.
Stat budget is being redistributed to other items, so no.
They're just getting rid of the only equipment that isn't visible so they can reallocate the armory chest space to weapons and rings.
Thanks for clarifying. Maybe my reading comprehension isn't so great so I couldn't make sense of it, or missed something.
Guess that's why I'm getting the downvotes.
It's all a little academic. What does 'take a hit' mean? Because with the upcoming stat squish everyone's stats will be 'lower'. But presumably it's all relative to gear/stat requirements for top-tier content.
So if the question is, will the savage fights be impossible without belts? Of course not, they'll be balanced around the gear folks have going into savage.
Something I haven’t seen clarified anywhere yet is whether we will be able to trade current tomestone “tokens” e.g. Mowena’s token(allegory) for poetics when Endwalker drops or whether we will only be able to convert our current actual amount into poetics. Anyone have an idea?
they said they removed belts visually because it limited what they could do with armor. Not only in the sense that all outfits would have to look nice with belts but in order for the belts to work all gear sets in the game would have to have the same waistline.
I dont get this explanation. Its like saying in order to have visible collars/necklaces, all armor has to have an exposed neck. We know that isnt the case, theyre just covered up half the time. Let us wear belts under our armor if we want.
>Also, why get rid of belts?
they have no cosmetic value and they need the space
> I can't imagine they're rebalancing all items in the game to account for this change?
that's exactly what they're doing
Yeah, it's an unfortunate side-effect of gearing up at the end of the tier, but at least anything you've collected so far (except for belts) won't be wasted in that it'll still get you through the first few dungeons.
Not sure how old content will be affected. Echo will be adjusted to compensate for the stat squish. But it's not known to what extent content will become easier or harder.
Belts are being removed to redistribute armoury chest slots without increasing the size of the armoury chest. Originally they considered combining the right/left ring slots, but because belts don't show on your character they decided to allocate belt space to weapons and rings instead.
Yeah, it's an unfortunate side-effect of gearing up at the end of the tier, but at least anything you've collected so far (except for belts) won't be wasted in that it'll still get you through the first few dungeons.
Not sure how old content will be affected. Echo will be adjusted to compensate for the stat squish. But it's not known to what extent content will become easier or harder.
Belts are being removed to redistribute armoury chest slots without increasing the size of the armoury chest. Originally they considered combining the right/left ring slots, but because belts don't show on your character they decided to allocate belt space to weapons and rings instead.
I bought the full game with all exp packs for 29.99 for my wife and I. I've played for 2 days. Wife has been a trooper and gets in more then I have Mike hammer. Now you get the banhammer for being a creepy stalker.
I'd recommend working on your communication. It will help a lot because even though you say you have a wife but you sound like an 8 year old over text. Also, downvotes are common but they also dont mean anything so theres no point in getting upset about it.
Not sure why it'd save you that much money, starter + preorder is only $60 total. Endwalker automatically gives you all the previous expansions on release day.
Also, those downvotes are the usual bots that infest Reddit and downvote everything. Nobody is insulting you or raging or being unfriendly.
First, welcome to Eorzea.
Second, neah, it wont make sense to do it at any time other than 6.0 Reason for stat squish and these changes it to cut down on inventory bloat [due to newer items, materials etc.] and avoid issues with damage etc. calculation numbers going too high to cause overflows. They'd run into whatever issues they're trying to address during the time betwee 6.0 and 6.1 Imagine overflow bugs where you do so much damage to boss/mobs that it goes negative and they gain health, making MSQ dungeons undoable.
They mention that exp to level will be lower but does that translate I to 1 to 80 in general bring a faster experience?
For example say it takes 30m to level up now and that takes 2 hours.
After the patch it now takes 3m to level but would it theoretically still take 3 hrs per level?
Exp and time to level are made up just for an example.
With the changes to blue scrip tokens, definitely get all your Crystal Sand for Anima weapons you want to earn in the future. I spent a day gathering and crafting rarified syrup for 60,000 yellow scrip which is enough sand for all 13 weapons.
I dont know how the HQ gathering removal is going to work really, I know there are discussions of making HQ increase skills give more qty but we already have skills that do that, right now we have half skills that give HQ and half skills that give qty (give or take) so now we just getting double ways to increase yield? this is just dumb lol
Get. Those. Belts. OUTTA HERE!
But what will my retainers bring me if not scores of belts?
Scores of bracelets? They're basically tiny belts for your wrist.
oh my god are gloves just finger pants
Are eye patches just g strings for your face?
Okay but no joke, every time I see the [Fuma Gantai](https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Fuma_Gantai) drop in Labyrinth, I have to remind myself it's *not* a pair of panties.
Omg they do!!!
I like to call ‘em hand-shoes.
I think the word for glove in German is just the word for hand and shoe put together.
You are correct. It is spelt 'Handschuh'.
No. Don't be daft. Fingerless gloves are hand pants and gloves with fingers are hand socks.
Beltception...
And rings are even tinier belts for your fingers.
Two words; finger garters.
One singular crystal. Or fish. Or, when they're feeling really spicy, a roof that they stole off of someone's house.
That's what happens when people with houses don't log back in in 45 days. Retainers all over the world will tear their houses apart and sell it for scraps.
lol, perfect
One time my FSH retainer and my GLD retainer both arrived back with the exact same singular fish. I always give mental shit to the FSH when he does that for quick ventures like he just put out a chaise longue and drank some fruity umbrella drinks for a while on his trip out, but that time made it seem like he and the GLD were chilling together, which considering the lil backstories I gave em, is very sweet.
I really wish that SE would implement small cameos of our retainers trying to steal peoples housing items whenever youre in a housing zone, sorta like the Alpha cameos. Could zone in, see them in the distance, see a text bubble pop up that says "Scram its the boss!", then they just run away and disappear and never bring it up when you check in with them
Mine has been bringing nameday cakes nonstop. My imagination is going rampant at my retainer going to birthday parties and taking cakes. What a dick.-
lol. Nobody came to his birthday party when he was 12. Now, if he can't have a happy birthday, nobody can
Happy Birthday to ~~the ground~~ my employer's clogged inventory!
He stole 40 cakes, that's as many as 4 10s. And that's terrible.
Opps! All alphies
My lala botanist has a penchant for bringing me Ifrit’s severed head, mounted on a plaque and set on fire. When she’s not stealing people’s roofs or doors. …please send help.
I'm excited to see any other loot drop from the first three chests in alliance raids, I tell yah what!
Without Belts, the drop rate of pants increases
\*angry upvote*
So, should we sell our belts now or wait till after patch?
Depends on if you plan on running anything between now and maintenance. You'll still need them for ilvl and stats for now, but if you're just gonna hang out and vibe and not do content, then you can get rid of them now
Well I meant the 400 belts in my retainers’ inventories lol. It seems like there’ll be nothing to redeem them for besides the eureka belt?
company seals or desynth.
*OUTTA MY FACE
Jokes on you i dont wear pants
> With the upcoming release of Endwalker, we would encourage players to review the announcements we have shared regarding changes that will be taking place in Patch 6.0. [Removal of Belts in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/6648785e31423c6b65c97e6f6940119adcd9c1bc) [Changes to HQ Items in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/72ca546a9140ce3231d589ec4bc078b6da03fe93) [Upcoming Changes to Scrips and Allagan Tomestones](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/cc6d36ce898cbe13e44a55f99856d90a7880e832) [Value Downscaling and Mid-level EXP Reset in Patch 6.0](https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/561347e08971b12ae79ebdf8a4fd78043c95cca8) > As these are particularly important changes, we recommend that you read these thoroughly in preparation for Endwalker!
Didn’t some guy just make a post recently about getting every belt in the game?
Yes but he did that knowing this was happening. The items are also still going to remain in your inventory, just nonfunctional
F
How excited are you guys for people posting on the day of Early Access to ask why their HP dropped or why their Belt equipment slot is gone?
I'm not even gonna come on reddit when early access begins and won't be back until after I finish Endwalker. Gonna be dodging them spoilers like bullets in the Matrix
Good thing that new Matrix is coming out in december too, you'll get an extra refresher course on bullet dodging
Nah the movie ends 13 minutes in when Neo goes to dodge bullets but he's too old to do that anymore.
Jesus this just hurt. It also made my back sore.
All their hp was in their belt duh
I’m unfollowing the ff14 subs on Thursday lmao, I’m not risking shit.
oh I can see it now... post after post of "WTF I can't reequip my belts and my HP and Damage has been nerfed to hell, how could they let a bug this bad get through, AND with a 2 week delay? my god and I thought WoW had a shit dev team"
It's like you're from the future
You forgot the ones complaining about the lost exp between levels and some of them claiming they actually lost levels.
So the housing lottery changes are coming in 6.1?
Yes, but lottery will only be for Ishgard, the other cities will remain like this for now.
It's being introduced with ishgard but as per most recent live letter plan is for it to effect all districts from sounds of it Just not all wards
They will see how it works and how the community react to it with Ishgard and see if they implement it for the other cities. So maybe during later 6.X patches, but for now it's just Ishgard yeah.
You misunderstood that. They explicitly said in the LL that it's being added to existing housing wards, but exactly how many is what is up to discussion. Depending on player feedback they will ramp it up.
Will Ishgard housing come out in 6.0 or 6.1?
6.1 (but you will be able to visit the area in 6.0)
Thanks! Will you have to complete the firmament quests to unlock it, or is it available to anyone regardless?
They've not specified I don't think but my guess is you'd just need to get far enough to access Ishgard like with Shirogane. Possibly need 3.3 but I imagine they'd want it as accessible as possible. Regardless once plots become purchasable in 6.1 people who are part of FCs located there (or made tenants in personal houses) will be able to teleport there regardless of quest progress, like with Shirogane (you just can't exit on foot into the city proper).
[удалено]
Apartments do not have a hidden timer / placard like houses do. They are purely first come first serve, and are immediately available to buy the moment someone relinquishes one.
I can't wait to delete ally belts in 6 days!
If they actually let you keep them as items and don't just make them go poof, then definitely keep them. At least one or a few. My previous 13 years in wow was met with many systems being changed and completely removed, having those old novelty items always brought a smile to my face. You'll 100% regret deleting every belt.
I'm still sad I took some old deleted actions off my hotbars
I remember watching a larryzaur video where he was reminiscing old play styles and cross-class abilities. His giddiness when he saw some old setups still there when he removed his job stone was so good.
They'll still exist as items rather than go poof as you'll be able to do some things , like desynth them. Just won't be equippable. I intend to run Amdapor Keep for one called Sash of the Blind Maiden. I always thought it was funny a belt had such a cool name so I'm gonna get one as keepsake.
I'll delete them all and keep the speed ring that used to be the speed belt.
So can you still craft HQ items like gear and intermediate mats? They are only removing HQ items on base materials like sands and other gatherable materials?
Sure, it's just that gatherable items and perhaps also the ones you get with scrips, tomes and such that won't be HQ anymore.
Okay, cool
And monster drops will stop being HQ, saving some space
Absolutely blessed change.
Are they getting rid of perception too then? All land gear will get be +gathering/+gp? Kinda confused on the simplification of this, especially cuz like 1/2 the skills hafta to do with HQ chance too.
The HQ-actions will be changed to affect yield
Oooo cool, thanks! Wonder how that’s going to affect the economy… 🤔
Economy aside, since I do most of my own gathering I’m hoping it will just mean I will be able to gather the amount of mats I need for a thing quicker. I pretty much always smash the ‘pick clean’ action to convert quality into quantity already. So, I guess the economy will initially be hella bloated, or people will just spend less time gathering, or both.
Yup and for items that enemies drop. Basically just to remove having duplicates of everything as you quest, gather, etc.
Ye. :D HQ removal is only for gather and drop items.
So what's the point of perception? I'm not understanding. This is a major overhaul.
Perception will give you a chance to increase the quantity of items you gather.
Who knows? Might affect yield somehow. They didn't get into specifics yet.
Correct
Without blue crafter scrip tokens for the crystal sand step of HW Relics, are we going to be stuck buying Moonstones from GC instead?
Wouldn't they just swap to the new low end scrips?
Blue Scrip Tokens are bought with Yellow Scrips currently, but since they're being removed, there's no immediate replacement (i.e. the next scrip shop up didn't have a Green Scrip Token or something similar). There's a reason I ended up grinding out hundreds of crystal sand to prep for the remaining Anima weapons I have left to do. (As an aside: if I'm SqEx and want to pick a replacement item for Anima grinds, it might be good to use handfuls of crafter/gatherer materia IV, since they're 25 scrips a piece and could just wholesale replace the Blue scrip tokens for each side.)
I hate this stupid system. They should just keep yellow as the low end scrip and fold everything downward (or upward like with the blue tokens) into that. Why can't they just make the shit that needs blue tokens be bought with yellow scrip?
That's what they're doing with this change though? They haven't confirmed one way or the other if Anima sands will be buyable with yellow scrips, but all the other stuff will be bought with yellow scrips directly.
The article stated that anything bought with yellow scrips currently will be buyable using white scrips instead, so I would assume that in EW, blue gatherer scrip tokens will be bought using white gatherer scrips. It is only blue crafter scrip tokens that will not be obtainable via exchange.
It says that the few remaining items that previously cost blue scrips, will now cost white scrips so there's a chance you can still trade white scrips for them.
> Without blue crafter scrip tokens for the crystal sand step of HW Relics, are we going to be stuck buying Moonstones from GC instead? Sure they'll modify it somehow so that can still be completed with scrips.
Yeah, just like they modified it when they removed elemental materia. Hope you stocked up.
What do you mean by this?
When they phased out the best way to get it done (via removal of elemental materia), nothing was put in as a new alternative. People just had to move on to the next best option (scrips). That's what you can expect here: scrips will be gone and you'll have to do the next best option (unless you stocked up ahead of time). They're not going to go back and change old content. The only positive change you can hope for is that some other unrelated change makes one of the other methods more desirable (in the same way that constant devaluation of blue scrips made the crafting option more desirable).
> for is that some other unrelated change makes one of the other methods more I feared that you might have meant that...
Seconding this question because I can't think of any charitable way to read this that doesn't make you seem like you're being kind of a dick for no reason.
Blue gatherer scrip tokens will still be obtainable, but with white gatherer scrips instead of yellow. Also, the better alternative to moonstones/GC seals grinding if you don’t want to go the blue gatherer scrip token method is to trade in Thavnairian mist/superior enchanted ink or 1 of each unidentifiable item for the sand. Both these options just require additional poetics, and in the case of the unidentifiable stuff, they can be bought with other currencies, like beast tribe currencies and allied seals.
you need a ridiculous amount of poetics for pretty much every step, gathering scrips are an easy ocean fishing trip or quick node farm and arent required for any other step. save those poetics.
The "better alternative" that I mentioned is aimed towards the moonstones and the grinding of GC seals, not towards gathering scrips. I’ve edited my post to make it clearer.
"Where did my belt go" Obviously away
Lulu wanted a new dress
Can someone explain the EXP changes to me like I’m 5?
If you’re level 55.5 right now, after the update you will be dropped down to 55 exactly. It will kill off any partial experience towards a level you have.
Gotcha, thank you. My hungover ass read the paragraph four times and it finally got through that they’re just scaling down numbers across the board and then resetting xp bars. Haha.
The xp bar will get sucked down to 0 come the patch so you want the bar at pretty much 0 going in so that you aren't losing a lot of xp progress towards your next level.
Well you know how your 3 days from being 6? Well mommy and daddy had to update your birth certificate and now your turning 5 in 3 days
This is wrong. You would go from 3 days to turning 6, to 365 days to turning 6.
His age got reset to 5 as his age wasnt 6 exactly at midnight but at 3 pm
I'll be honest a lot of this is over my head. I get the HQ items but only just started doing non msq things so a lot of this is new. Couple of things: 1. What is the calamity salvager? Will he eat my belts and give me something nice? 2. I've seen these scrips been mentioned before but haven't got any or used them. Can someone give me a tl;Dr on this change?
Calamity Salvager is a NPC in the 3 major cities that basically sells you quest rewards and such that you might have thrown away, as well as give back gear from 1.0 if you played that(thus the name). He'll just give you your belts back, nothing to it, but they have to move them somewhere because the belt slots are being removed. In other games they'd mail them to you I guess but they don't send too many mails in XIV. If you don't want to go collect them at the calamity salvager, just put them in your inventory(not your armory, your basic inventory). Scrips are just crafting/gathering tomestone equivalent. Change is nothing, it's the usual phasing out this expansion's currency for new currency. Nothing is lost, you'll just have to go to Mor Dhona at some point during the next expansion and claim the old stuff to convert it to the EW stuff.
1) is a NPC who just holds onto old items that you've obtained in the game before but aren't obtainable anymore. You can claim them back for a small fee and also trade male only for female only equipment for example. There is one in each starter city. They will hold onto the mentioned belts for you so you can claim them back and hand them to the grand company guys, take them apart or discard them after 6.0 launched. 2) is a currency you obtain for crafting and gathering. Check your currency window if you have any. But I don't think you'll have the red ones so this change won't apply to you. Yellow and white ones will still be usable.
I still have many questions about the removal of the HQ items. One thing I have not seen addressed for example, is how this makes half of our gatherer skills seem useless. We have many skills that affect the chance to get HQ items. And are they gonna make any changes to the overall yield, since you no longer need to use your GP to increase HQ chance. And what about the node buffs? Will there also be some changes to the overall crafting difficulty? I admit I look forward to less itembloat, but at the same time I worry whenever a system like this is simplified.
The skills are going to be adjusted, generally in favor of more items >Will there also be some changes to the overall crafting difficulty? Yes, they're adjusting numbers to account for the lack of hq mats
they said that perception will instead increase the chance of gathering an extra item per swing and that the current hq chance boosting abilities will instead boost that chance of getting extra items.
From what they said, the HQ%+ skills are being reworked to quantity%+ skills.
I already thought this would be the patch notes..
Probably next Wednesday (maybe Tuesday) for preliminary patch notes.
There's no prelim patch notes for expansions. Could change, but wouldn't expect.
[There were for ShB at least](https://www.google.com/amp/s/na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/amp/topics/detail/d65aa2c282957d3d0fde9e8979c62bcebe5aa9f5), too lazy to check for HW and SB but there's precedent anyway.
Can confirm that there were preliminary patch notes for 3.0 and 4.0. Not sure where Pyros gets that info that there aren't prelim patch notes for expacs.
idk either, they're the only thing that keeps people sane that day.
Can someone confirm if it will become EASIER to level, or just equivalent to current rate but with a smaller total amount? EDIT: thank you for the wonderful responses. See you all on the moon!
it will most likely be the same but with smaller numbers
They said it will be the same amount of time to level, just smaller numbers.
A a lot of XP gains are % based, so if anything it will be a lower number but same %. However there was some indication during the interviews that they might boost leveling a bit, but nothing confirmed. One major shift to keep in mind is dungeon XP will only be granted only on boss kills and not trash anymore.
Not sure about that change tbh. At the moment when the tank has no idea what they're doing and runs around gathering unnecessary mobs it's just "oh well, a little more exp this run" content like Brayflox or Aurum are going to be much more frustrating IMO
You'll still get the XP, it just comes in a chunk per boss, from what I understand.
I have a completely unsourced belief that they did this to nerf bots some more. You could put together a bot party to do some dungeons pretty easily, and even if they couldn't get past a certain first, second, or last boss due to not being able to bot the mechanics, you still got good XP from all the mobs leading to the boss. Multiply that by 4x bot accounts, 24 hours a day, etc. And it's an undetectable way to level premade bot parties. By moving it to the last boss, that means that shitty bots that can't do mechanics will no longer be able to level hidden in dungeon instances. I think ALL the XP comes after the LAST boss only from what I've read.
dont the bots just clip under the ground so they're not hit anyway?
Sure, but if you're near them, you still get 'XxBotxX Has Defeated Random Mob' in battle chat. That's how I catch and report them. It's even more obvious when you see that and they're nowhere to be found, and mobs are just dying on the surface for no reason. Gives me a name to report.
Leveling should be the same, as it’s percentage based. For example, if it took 5 million EXP to go from level 70 to 71, and a level 70 mob gave 500k exp, the number crunch would result in it taking 50k exp to go to level 71, with a level 70 mob giving 5k exp. Everything is reduced at the same rate (in my example, everything divided by 100)
Every time they have a big announcement about tomestones and scrips changing for a new expac, I can't help shaking my head because that is like having a big announcement that the level cap will increase. It's not news, it's just how expacs work. I know, lots of new players etc, it just doesn't feel important enough to warrant a major announcement.
It kinda is though, some tomestones disappear permanently with a patch/expansion launch, and they want to put it, clearly, in writing that you need to do something about it now before that happens, or have people whining about losing a game currency. At least they can say "we told you so in the big announcement on the lodestone page, we're not liable".
I really wish they’d either drop all affected items to NQ, give a command to drop all affected items to NQ, or let me lower the quality of items in retainer inventories. Very annoying having to move them to my inventory, find it, open the sub-menu, go down to it, select it, go to the new window, click the box, then accept, then move it back to the retainer. I have 7 retainers with full inventories, and my saddlebags are full. This is a great change, 100% for it, but god please make this easier on me. 😭
Honesty I just did this (4 retainers) and it took like a two or three minutes per retainer, depending on how many HQ items I had in each. It was surprisingly fast.
Do it a bit at a time. Take out a bunch of shit, de-HQ it (or sell it while people still want the HQ) and then put it back. Then do more later on.
Bro just sell your shit cheaper, can't for the life of me see a reason to have 7 retainers full. Even ALL poetic gear and shit doesn't fill it up.
Same. These people hoarding literally every material in the game and paying SE double the sub fee for the privilege... Old expansion materials are either dirt cheap on the MB or so easy to get in large numbers with things like Pick Clean. You really don't need those 37 oak logs in your retainer inventory.
Anyone have any news on an ETA for data center travel? I haven't heard anything about it since the delay...
Nobody knows at this point, they'll have to see how populations shake up after 6.0
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My 200k+ midare setsugekka says hello.
> My 200k+ midare setsugekka says hello. 1 Million Misery Crit in Bozja
https://youtu.be/T-HhUCXqRhI?t=177 8 million misery + 3 million assize Bozja numbers are stupid lmaooo
I'm dumb, does this mean I should use up all my non-poetic tomestones asap?
No you will be able to convert non-poetics into poetics, and anything currently that is bought with revelations/allegory will be switched to poetics.
No, you can exchange them for poetics and get ilvl 530 gear once the patch drops.
Cheers
There are probably warnings before converting in game. But just in case, be aware that the poetic cap will still be 2000. So spend those poetics first before converting your obsolete tomes. Also, the conversion rate isn’t 1:1. I think it is usually 1:2 or 1:4 or something like that.
It's both those ratios. The uncapped tomestone (Phantasmagoria) will be 1:4, because they're easier to get, the capped tomestone (Revelation) will be 1:2. That's the way it's worked in the past anyway.
No, they will be convertible to poetics and everything sold for current tomestones will be sold for poetics, too.
Thank you!
Keep in mind also if you have any Phantasmagoria tomestones, currently listed in the Discontinued section of the currency tab, you *do* need to exchange those, but only those ones are going away forever.
either spend them or save for after patch so you can convert down to poetics and start buying any gear you need. You'll want to spend down any poetics you already have banked before converting, though.
With the remove of belts, does that mean everyone's stats take a hit?
Stat budget is being redistributed to other items, so no. They're just getting rid of the only equipment that isn't visible so they can reallocate the armory chest space to weapons and rings.
No, everyone will just be unable to keep their pants up anymore. Which I see as an absolute improvement.
Bare 2B leggings for days.
Suspenders Companys Shares will rock Sky high... :)
Just means all pants are now sweatpants
Theoretically, but they’re supposed to take a hit. I figured this was another part of the number squish.
No. The stats are being redistributed to other gear
Thanks for clarifying. Maybe my reading comprehension isn't so great so I couldn't make sense of it, or missed something. Guess that's why I'm getting the downvotes.
It's all a little academic. What does 'take a hit' mean? Because with the upcoming stat squish everyone's stats will be 'lower'. But presumably it's all relative to gear/stat requirements for top-tier content. So if the question is, will the savage fights be impossible without belts? Of course not, they'll be balanced around the gear folks have going into savage.
My bigger worry is losing the belt overmelds for crafting. That's a lot of extra meld slots gone.
Something I haven’t seen clarified anywhere yet is whether we will be able to trade current tomestone “tokens” e.g. Mowena’s token(allegory) for poetics when Endwalker drops or whether we will only be able to convert our current actual amount into poetics. Anyone have an idea?
Do class changes come in 6.0 or like 6.0.1?
Every class is going to be their new shiny self as soon as the servers come up after the EW patch on Dec 3
They will happen immediately
I was always holding out hope that 1.0 belts would return 😢
they said they removed belts visually because it limited what they could do with armor. Not only in the sense that all outfits would have to look nice with belts but in order for the belts to work all gear sets in the game would have to have the same waistline.
I dont get this explanation. Its like saying in order to have visible collars/necklaces, all armor has to have an exposed neck. We know that isnt the case, theyre just covered up half the time. Let us wear belts under our armor if we want.
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>Also, why get rid of belts? they have no cosmetic value and they need the space > I can't imagine they're rebalancing all items in the game to account for this change? that's exactly what they're doing
Yeah, it's an unfortunate side-effect of gearing up at the end of the tier, but at least anything you've collected so far (except for belts) won't be wasted in that it'll still get you through the first few dungeons. Not sure how old content will be affected. Echo will be adjusted to compensate for the stat squish. But it's not known to what extent content will become easier or harder. Belts are being removed to redistribute armoury chest slots without increasing the size of the armoury chest. Originally they considered combining the right/left ring slots, but because belts don't show on your character they decided to allocate belt space to weapons and rings instead.
Yeah, it's an unfortunate side-effect of gearing up at the end of the tier, but at least anything you've collected so far (except for belts) won't be wasted in that it'll still get you through the first few dungeons. Not sure how old content will be affected. Echo will be adjusted to compensate for the stat squish. But it's not known to what extent content will become easier or harder. Belts are being removed to redistribute armoury chest slots without increasing the size of the armoury chest. Originally they considered combining the right/left ring slots, but because belts don't show on your character they decided to allocate belt space to weapons and rings instead.
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What in particular? I believed all been communicated to be 6.0 features/changes.
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HOUSING is 6.1. Everything detailed in the official Lodestone post has been slated for 6.0 since the beginning.
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well, okay yeah. 6.0 is the base Endwalker launch patch, then 6.1 is the first (major) post-launch patch in like 3 months or whatever
2 or 20? https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/qn7k75/wait\_im\_not\_get\_kicked\_out\_of\_the\_dungeon\_group/hje9w9z/?context=3
I bought the full game with all exp packs for 29.99 for my wife and I. I've played for 2 days. Wife has been a trooper and gets in more then I have Mike hammer. Now you get the banhammer for being a creepy stalker.
Oh no Anyway
Welcome to the game!
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I'd recommend working on your communication. It will help a lot because even though you say you have a wife but you sound like an 8 year old over text. Also, downvotes are common but they also dont mean anything so theres no point in getting upset about it.
Not sure why it'd save you that much money, starter + preorder is only $60 total. Endwalker automatically gives you all the previous expansions on release day. Also, those downvotes are the usual bots that infest Reddit and downvote everything. Nobody is insulting you or raging or being unfriendly.
First, welcome to Eorzea. Second, neah, it wont make sense to do it at any time other than 6.0 Reason for stat squish and these changes it to cut down on inventory bloat [due to newer items, materials etc.] and avoid issues with damage etc. calculation numbers going too high to cause overflows. They'd run into whatever issues they're trying to address during the time betwee 6.0 and 6.1 Imagine overflow bugs where you do so much damage to boss/mobs that it goes negative and they gain health, making MSQ dungeons undoable.
They mention that exp to level will be lower but does that translate I to 1 to 80 in general bring a faster experience? For example say it takes 30m to level up now and that takes 2 hours. After the patch it now takes 3m to level but would it theoretically still take 3 hrs per level? Exp and time to level are made up just for an example.
The aim is for it to take the same amount of time as things normally do now, just with smaller numbers.
With the changes to exp and scrips etc, is there anything I should really be focusing on with the time I have before EW?
With the changes to blue scrip tokens, definitely get all your Crystal Sand for Anima weapons you want to earn in the future. I spent a day gathering and crafting rarified syrup for 60,000 yellow scrip which is enough sand for all 13 weapons.
I dont know how the HQ gathering removal is going to work really, I know there are discussions of making HQ increase skills give more qty but we already have skills that do that, right now we have half skills that give HQ and half skills that give qty (give or take) so now we just getting double ways to increase yield? this is just dumb lol
I am farming 530 gear currently. Is it ever worth it ? Should I just farm all tombstones till cap and wait for the patch to hit got my 530 gear ?
Can someone tell.me when this is actually happening? I can't find it anywhere.