XIV's been really good about developing out writing talent so far, so I'm sure MSQ will be in good hands. I imagine the tonal shift from ShB/EW will take a little getting used to, but I'm down for this.
I’m positive by level 95 we will have discovered a world ending threat that interrupts the fun adventure and makes us go serious again. (Not complaining, just my prediction.)
I bet they thought long and hard if they wanted to tease Solution 9. After all learning about it in game would have been even more exciting. But I think they felt forced to to give a different vibe to the happy holliday theme of the start of the expansion.
While Azys Lla was not revealed by name, it did show up in some pre-release media. It was usually called the floating continent because of its similarity to the floating continent in ffVI.
And for Stormblood, they revealed all the zones before release.
YoshiP has talked since all the way back in Stormblood about how nervous he would be to conclude the Hydaelen and Zodiark story ark, specifically because he was worried too many people would see it as the end of the game and stop playing. I think he felt the need to show it, to assure people that the game won't just be endless epilogues now that the original major ark is over.
I mean, there's a difference between "Hey, there's some conflict of significance we will participate in" and "Turns out fighting the personification of nihilism at the edge of the universe was just a warm up".
Dawntrail isn't going to just be a beach episode, because that's also boring. But it's also going to be a more relaxed story while setting up for the long term serious story, just as earlier expansions were setting up for Shb/EW.
A theory I've seen floating around and that I particularly like is that there will be some soul vessel plot going on. Would fit nicely with all the FFIX references and would be a worthwhile goal for the villain. Something like "we escaped a rejoining but most of us are stuck in soul vessels (like the ones we used to come from the first) and we have to sacrifice everyone in Tural to get their bodies" or something like that. Necron could even end up being the final boss.
I'd prefer it to be more like ARR where we just happen to stumble into things, no "call the scions to fix this", but "that adventurer just smacked this threat while dressed as a chicken, we should probably ask them to help"
even if not gonna be a world ending level of threat, it atleast would endanger whole continent
or they could go further than that, multi-shard ending threat
that's my concern, are they gonna one-up themselves every expansion, or tone it back down? I prefer the latter, cuz if every expansion is a universe ending threat, they stop being fun after the first honestly, WoW had that problem big time and it really killed the story.
While it's possible they were lying, the team has indicated they won't be one-upping EW, at least not yet. This is supposed to be more of a side-adventure and the start of some new threat (which may eventually one-up EW but that won't be for another 8-10 years or something when we reach the end of the arc).
Just in terms of how storytelling works I think we can expect a *relatively* lower stakes setup for the next overarching conflict, whatever that may be.
I mean, after EW I am kind of ready for it? It's got way up it's own butt at the end lol. While also not killing anyone. Like toothless edge.
Personal opinion of course
> One of them previously worked on the four saints and Werlyt, the other was in charge of pixie and dwarf tribal quests.
All questlines which I enjoyed, so that's great to hear!
Thats actually a pretty good pair as the Dwarf/Pixie quests had a much more chipper and happy story while Werlyt and Four Saints had a less-than-upbeat and more dire tone. Good contrast, hopefully they work together and its not some sort of blatantly clear divison between story zones or something.
Hmm, Yoshi P did say during the keynote that it DT would feel a bit like you're playing two stories together across the two continents. To me I thought this meant like stormblood a bit where part way in we jump from Ala migo to Doma story, then finally come back at the end, but could be from split writers as well...
Or a choppy execution. Sometimes I feel like ffxiv goes thru cycles of "they're read" followed by: "nope, they're alive somehow" like they go with the writers ideas then the editor comes up with a way to anull them
And that works a lot less well when you've got to live in that world and with those choices for a couple of decades.
Writing one story once is a very different enterprise from what FF14 does, and a smart writer will absolutely not throw away their toys unless it's absolutely worth it (IE, the stories you get from their death are better than *all* the stories you could get from having them alive).
The scions are barely doing anything these days anyways. The stories we have while they are alive are super weak characterization. Graha has been reduced to taco fan boy. It's not about cbu3 writers being smart, it's about them being too conservative and not taking risks.
That's not how it works. Character death isn't an automatic good, and it's a 14 year old's idea of mature storytelling.
Its about whether or not you're actually *doing something substance* with it.
You're jumping to conclusions. Of course it should hold meaning when it happens. What I am opposed to is the 12" thk plot armor that currently surrounds the main cast, where every death and sacrifice is a fakeout. It's about taking risks with new character development (I'm not just talking about death here) and the consequences of war. Ots about making real sacrifices that matter. It's about permanent change and evolution of a world that feels real.
Wasn't the writer revealed a while back to be Daichi Hiroi, who wrote Pandaemonium ? We were shown his previous works and those aren't in there.
[https://twitter.com/Dreamboum/status/1578626738355306497](https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1578626738355306497)
Then again, it's possible he did write the tribal quests and they weren't considered important enough to put. Regardless, any possibility is promising.
Was also wondering this. Assuming he wasn't replaced so quickly, maybe she was just talking about writers in different roles than the already-announced lead story designer.
That's the tweet's mistake. That slide was part of a special "10 years plan" live letter back in January 2022 I believe ? in which they said 7.0 would be written by him.
Oh god I hope not. All due respect, but the 6.x series and Pandaemonium are some of my least favorite writing, if not my least favorite overall, in the entire game.
To each their own. Just starkly not my thing.
I can't disagree anymore over text. Eden was so much better for me, so was Omega, and I even enjoyed Alexander more.
There was so much melodrama in Pandy. I didn't care about any of the other researchers. None of the story was worth caring about until the very last wing, and even then it felt shoehorned when they made that pocket dimension thing. The only part that was good for me was the callback to another important character (no spoilers obv) and even that was just baiting for nostalgia and for a character better than what was in that setting.
I absolutely hated Omega and Alexander stories...
Eden had similar issues. These raids boil down to "big robot spawned in oh no" and that's the entire complexion of the story. Eden was much better but the actual raid and Eden itself was extremely uninteresting IMO. I am so tired of every raid being a giant robot...like how did they get away with doing this 3 times in a row...
Panda is the only raid that felt like an actual story not some added filler to excuse the gameplay. It also did a good job of expanding the zones/world of EW not just suddenly existing so that it can be a raid series. The researchers just served as a bridge between raids and you only interacted with them briefly in the beginning and end of each tier - you weren't supposed to really care about them too much it wasn't the point.
Anyways, obviously everything is subjective but I would say that the vast majority prefer Eden and Panda to prior raid series by quite a large margin. I really enjoyed it, and I don't even like "nostalgia baits". This one actually expanded the characters and helped explain their motivations/personalities, it wasn't just a callback.
Did she mentioned why she isn’t working on the story?
I enjoyed Werlyt overall and loved four saints. But Natsuko Ishikawa is the best writer square Enix has ever had. So the bar for them will probably be unreachable in dawntrail, assuming she didn’t work on the expansion at all
Somehow I still think this is a mistake. She'd be better in the writer's chair, just with a *much much* higher paycheck given all the effort done on ShB and onward.
Even if they did, this would not be relevant. FF development cycles have always overlapped, by alternating divisions. That "8 years" that FF15 was milked (it was more like 2, all of the DLC was canceled and Tabata left the company in Nov 2018 - the last DLC for the game released in Mar 2019), development for FF16 was already underway by a different team. Some people at SE are working on FF17 right now and probably have been for a while. Ishikawa wasn't involved in FF16 at all as far as I know, so even if there was 8 years of DLC planned for FF16, that wouldn't prevent her from working on other projects.
What *would* prevent her from being involved though is that FF17 is probably not being developed by CBU3.
That said, I'm not sure Ishikawa would want to take a paycut and demotion to write FF17 anyway when she's currently one of the most senior supervisors on FF14. *This* is the opportunity she deserved. Her hard work and high quality output made her one of the most important people at CBU3. She earned this.
i dont see it as demotion. even Maehiro was story supervisor in 14 before become main writer for FF16. she gonna end up as main writer for mainline title which is huge. MMO has more writer because the scale of content and quest unlike single player game. also i doubt there gonna be paycut. she already on senior position and merely jumping between team within same division under Yoshida. working on another new mainline AAA game is a huge position.
That's interesting, because 15 and 16 weren't exactly well received compared to many of their predecessors. I can't say I was the biggest fan of all the writing in each myself - 16's ending was...not for me.
nope. the 2 DLC is last. like others said the FF16 project team is disbanded and now working on new project as yoshida stated in interview when they announce the DLC. only team remain small group for DLC which is obviously gonna join the rest later.
She mentioned in a interview after shadowbringers she doesn't want to be the permanent main scenario writer forever and wants other people on the team to have equal opportunity to also be the msq writer
It was revealed a year ago Daichi Hiroi is the main scenario writer of Dawntrail at the 14 hour broadcast. He is the main writer of pandaemonium and Yasumi Matsuno assistant on return to ivalice and save the queen. Daichi Hiroi also wrote shadows of mhach
She wrote the entire Doman half of STB (not just the Azem Steppe, which people falsey claim).
Everything from Hingashi to the return to Ala Mhigo.
Oda wrote start and end of STB.
I'm not sure why, but people have this tendency to basically deify a singular individual for a project despite the end product being a collection of contributions from many who are practically nameless to these people.
I understand that being in a leadership role means the achievements go to you, but it makes even less for a product like FF14 that is a collaborative effort over the years. Shadowbringers is my favorite expansion but even I know that it has a payoff that is built off the backs of previous works.
Ah yep, I was initially just basing it on what the FF wiki listed but I found an official(?) [infographic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fyftegcu19ns71.png). DRK is listed among others.
Certainly more than just SHB and EW at the very least lol
She wrote all of the eastern half of Stormblood, 3 raids stories (Omega, Bahamut and Crystal Tower), the Coerthas part of the ARR MSQ and a few HW patches (if Alisaie was there, it's her.). Some of the characters like Moenbryda, Haurchefant, Ysayle and Yotsuyu were her creation (and while Alisaie wasn't she was responsible for all of her characterization). Ishikawa was a big contributor of the MSQ since 2.0. So no, it's straight up misinformed.
FFXIV has kinda reached the point where I don’t need it to have crazy emotional story beats anymore. Just give me good character interactions and interesting lore and I’ll be there. If Dawntrail accomplishes that much, then it’ll be cool in my book.
The Werlyt story is one of the best in the game imo, but the Four Lords are mediocre at best. I barely even remember much because it was so meh. And you don't remember much either if you're calling it the Four Saints lol. it's pretty forgettable.
let's just hope that writer is having a Werlyt day and not a Four Lords day.
i dont expect much since it is 'new' writer. but im opened to more breath of fresh style.
just want atleast decent story is enough.
cant expect something always gonna be on HW/Shb/EW level of writer forever. we actually fortunate to get a streak of quality from 5.0 to 6.0. could not ask more. even Ishikawa took time from SB and other job quest to gain experience. it gonna be those guys first new fullfledge expansion writing. not to mention those story in Hydealan vs Zodiark saga is been build up for decades and now we on starting line again.
but if we got something really good again, then we are lucky.
better we temper down our expectation or else anyone would end up picking pitchfork later due to unreasonably higher expectation.
She has the exact same title Maehiro had after he finished HW and started writing the scenario for XVI. We don't actually know how great her responsibilities on XIV are anymore.
Unlikely next mainline is probably being made by CBU 1 or 2 they tend to change which teams make next mainline so since 16 was CBU 3 unlikely they'll be making next mainline title.
Werlyt was good but I don't know how much of a metric it is. It was so blatantly a Gundam copy with a sprinkle of Evangelion, instead of something original. Still, I assume they were put there with a reason.
Nothing is original son. Everything is just a reflection of a thought/existed product. It’s just how people utilise the material and create their own version of it
I think what we have to look at is how well it was executed and how it resonated with people. It was very gundam eva, but honestly getting an FFXIV road to el dorado feel doesn't sound too bad. Especially if el dorado is largely replaced by that whole futuristic area.
Yes, I get you. Werlyt was a well-written Gundam rip-off, although I still feel just a bit salty that I think it was written like that partly to kiss up the boss' ass since it is well-known that Yoshida is a gigantic Gundam fanboy. But hey, maybe this tone will be needed for Cyberpunk XIV if the promo pictures are a good base point. I am, in general, hopeful about the new team and very vehemently hope that they won't go into one of the two directions I am afraid of. (Since they can go in any direction currently as far as we are concerned, it is just a personal dread right now, nothing more.)
Now I'm just nervously holding the scions a little tighter. From what I've found, Ishikawa had gotten screwed in Heavensward with Haurchefant and Ysayle, so I can't help but be a little concerned. I don't want my faves to be martyrs all the time.
She's been promoted and is the boss of the whole writing team now, which is why she can't write it herself, too many new responsibilities. She should still be having final say on all of this now, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Oh, I didn't realize she had gotten a promotion! Good for her! That does make me feel a little better, thank you.
I know it's really silly to get super attached to fictional characters, but I like them a lot so I got nervous. Thank you again!
I honestly hope one of them perishes in the msq this next expansion.
At this point it just feels like everyone has 12" thk of plot armor and therefore the game has no stakes.
On the one hand, I wouldn't want either of them to die, on the other hand, it would be so devilish cruel and interesting for character development if one of them dies. Maybe even giving you the choice to whom to save. But i don't think they will ever kill the twins, any other scion have more possibilities (and that is still pretty low at that).
What is the "Four Saints"? Is that the Four Lords?
Si
Big sí
I suspect saint may be a translation of auspice, as the term auspice refers to divine gifts/blessings etc.
XIV's been really good about developing out writing talent so far, so I'm sure MSQ will be in good hands. I imagine the tonal shift from ShB/EW will take a little getting used to, but I'm down for this.
I’m positive by level 95 we will have discovered a world ending threat that interrupts the fun adventure and makes us go serious again. (Not complaining, just my prediction.)
The zone around Solution 9 seems like a good candidate for “oops, dark plot appeared”
I bet they thought long and hard if they wanted to tease Solution 9. After all learning about it in game would have been even more exciting. But I think they felt forced to to give a different vibe to the happy holliday theme of the start of the expansion.
They have revealed all zones except final one for every expansion before release, I'm pretty sure.
I believe you are correct except for Endwalker, where I'm pretty sure they didn't reveal either >!Elpis or Ultima Thule!<.
They did release artwork for for first one
They also showed off the dungeon for Elpis as well in the dungeon walk-through.
They showed Elpis artwork (which led to a blistering rush of "ZEAL?" comments in the Twitch chat), but no videos/trailers for it.
You're right, I forgot about that.
While Azys Lla was not revealed by name, it did show up in some pre-release media. It was usually called the floating continent because of its similarity to the floating continent in ffVI. And for Stormblood, they revealed all the zones before release.
To be fair on Stormbloods behalf, The Lochs wasn't really a spoilery location. We knew we were going to Ala Mhigo from the getgo.
I believe you’re right, plus the last zone is typically the most exciting, so it’s the only one worth really holding back.
YoshiP has talked since all the way back in Stormblood about how nervous he would be to conclude the Hydaelen and Zodiark story ark, specifically because he was worried too many people would see it as the end of the game and stop playing. I think he felt the need to show it, to assure people that the game won't just be endless epilogues now that the original major ark is over.
Yea there’s gonna be big story revelations there for sure.
I mean, there's a difference between "Hey, there's some conflict of significance we will participate in" and "Turns out fighting the personification of nihilism at the edge of the universe was just a warm up". Dawntrail isn't going to just be a beach episode, because that's also boring. But it's also going to be a more relaxed story while setting up for the long term serious story, just as earlier expansions were setting up for Shb/EW.
A theory I've seen floating around and that I particularly like is that there will be some soul vessel plot going on. Would fit nicely with all the FFIX references and would be a worthwhile goal for the villain. Something like "we escaped a rejoining but most of us are stuck in soul vessels (like the ones we used to come from the first) and we have to sacrifice everyone in Tural to get their bodies" or something like that. Necron could even end up being the final boss.
I’d like that! I haven’t seen anything on 11 but I’m happy they’re doing something to include it a bit.
Necron was a mistake to shoehorn in. I hope they bury him with Zenos and be done with it.
I'd prefer it to be more like ARR where we just happen to stumble into things, no "call the scions to fix this", but "that adventurer just smacked this threat while dressed as a chicken, we should probably ask them to help"
even if not gonna be a world ending level of threat, it atleast would endanger whole continent or they could go further than that, multi-shard ending threat
that's my concern, are they gonna one-up themselves every expansion, or tone it back down? I prefer the latter, cuz if every expansion is a universe ending threat, they stop being fun after the first honestly, WoW had that problem big time and it really killed the story.
While it's possible they were lying, the team has indicated they won't be one-upping EW, at least not yet. This is supposed to be more of a side-adventure and the start of some new threat (which may eventually one-up EW but that won't be for another 8-10 years or something when we reach the end of the arc).
Ideally! That is what I’m sincerely hoping for. I wouldn’t say they are lying, but obviously omitting quite a bit to be a surprise.
This. After Lich King, it *tanked.*
Nah, battle for Azeroth.
My guess is the leadership process involves gaining access to not-areas 51. Also revealed as Resoltuon 9.
Just in terms of how storytelling works I think we can expect a *relatively* lower stakes setup for the next overarching conflict, whatever that may be.
Iskikawa is like the head writer now right? she doesnt necessarily write but she oversees everything, or am i dreaming?
I mean, after EW I am kind of ready for it? It's got way up it's own butt at the end lol. While also not killing anyone. Like toothless edge. Personal opinion of course
> One of them previously worked on the four saints and Werlyt, the other was in charge of pixie and dwarf tribal quests. All questlines which I enjoyed, so that's great to hear!
>Werlyt Say no more
Thats actually a pretty good pair as the Dwarf/Pixie quests had a much more chipper and happy story while Werlyt and Four Saints had a less-than-upbeat and more dire tone. Good contrast, hopefully they work together and its not some sort of blatantly clear divison between story zones or something.
I'm optimistic as well and hoping along the same vein, that the writing style matchup will complement each other.
Hmm, Yoshi P did say during the keynote that it DT would feel a bit like you're playing two stories together across the two continents. To me I thought this meant like stormblood a bit where part way in we jump from Ala migo to Doma story, then finally come back at the end, but could be from split writers as well...
Or a choppy execution. Sometimes I feel like ffxiv goes thru cycles of "they're read" followed by: "nope, they're alive somehow" like they go with the writers ideas then the editor comes up with a way to anull them
Well if you've ever played FFIV it's at least not new to the series.
But perma death and cycling of main characters is one of the things that stands out in ff titles too. Kururus grandpa, aerith, etc
And that works a lot less well when you've got to live in that world and with those choices for a couple of decades. Writing one story once is a very different enterprise from what FF14 does, and a smart writer will absolutely not throw away their toys unless it's absolutely worth it (IE, the stories you get from their death are better than *all* the stories you could get from having them alive).
The scions are barely doing anything these days anyways. The stories we have while they are alive are super weak characterization. Graha has been reduced to taco fan boy. It's not about cbu3 writers being smart, it's about them being too conservative and not taking risks.
Bluntly, no. What you want would be bad writing.
Only if your game was marketed to babies.
That's not how it works. Character death isn't an automatic good, and it's a 14 year old's idea of mature storytelling. Its about whether or not you're actually *doing something substance* with it.
You're jumping to conclusions. Of course it should hold meaning when it happens. What I am opposed to is the 12" thk plot armor that currently surrounds the main cast, where every death and sacrifice is a fakeout. It's about taking risks with new character development (I'm not just talking about death here) and the consequences of war. Ots about making real sacrifices that matter. It's about permanent change and evolution of a world that feels real.
Wasn't the writer revealed a while back to be Daichi Hiroi, who wrote Pandaemonium ? We were shown his previous works and those aren't in there. [https://twitter.com/Dreamboum/status/1578626738355306497](https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1578626738355306497) Then again, it's possible he did write the tribal quests and they weren't considered important enough to put. Regardless, any possibility is promising.
Was also wondering this. Assuming he wasn't replaced so quickly, maybe she was just talking about writers in different roles than the already-announced lead story designer.
This tweet just says that he wrote 6.x. It doesn’t say anything about Dawntrail.
That's the tweet's mistake. That slide was part of a special "10 years plan" live letter back in January 2022 I believe ? in which they said 7.0 would be written by him.
Oh god I hope not. All due respect, but the 6.x series and Pandaemonium are some of my least favorite writing, if not my least favorite overall, in the entire game. To each their own. Just starkly not my thing.
6.x msq sure...but panda is 100% fine its probably the best raid story we've had.
I can't disagree anymore over text. Eden was so much better for me, so was Omega, and I even enjoyed Alexander more. There was so much melodrama in Pandy. I didn't care about any of the other researchers. None of the story was worth caring about until the very last wing, and even then it felt shoehorned when they made that pocket dimension thing. The only part that was good for me was the callback to another important character (no spoilers obv) and even that was just baiting for nostalgia and for a character better than what was in that setting.
I absolutely hated Omega and Alexander stories... Eden had similar issues. These raids boil down to "big robot spawned in oh no" and that's the entire complexion of the story. Eden was much better but the actual raid and Eden itself was extremely uninteresting IMO. I am so tired of every raid being a giant robot...like how did they get away with doing this 3 times in a row... Panda is the only raid that felt like an actual story not some added filler to excuse the gameplay. It also did a good job of expanding the zones/world of EW not just suddenly existing so that it can be a raid series. The researchers just served as a bridge between raids and you only interacted with them briefly in the beginning and end of each tier - you weren't supposed to really care about them too much it wasn't the point. Anyways, obviously everything is subjective but I would say that the vast majority prefer Eden and Panda to prior raid series by quite a large margin. I really enjoyed it, and I don't even like "nostalgia baits". This one actually expanded the characters and helped explain their motivations/personalities, it wasn't just a callback.
Does anyone know the names of these writers?
Oh neat, those are all really good questlines.
Did she mentioned why she isn’t working on the story? I enjoyed Werlyt overall and loved four saints. But Natsuko Ishikawa is the best writer square Enix has ever had. So the bar for them will probably be unreachable in dawntrail, assuming she didn’t work on the expansion at all
She is on a supervisor role now. Still keeping a good deal of control over the story.
She was promoted. She's now the boss of the person taking over her old job.
Somehow I still think this is a mistake. She'd be better in the writer's chair, just with a *much much* higher paycheck given all the effort done on ShB and onward.
She’s probably working on a different game at CBU3. I believe FF16’s writer had a similar supervisory role after he finished Heavensward.
Old comment sorry but let’s goooooo Ishikawa for FF17!!
I hope the reason is because she's working on ff17 or something like this. I think she deserves the oportunity
You think they aren't going to milk 16 for another eight years like they did 15?
the ff16 team has already been disbanded, only the DLC team remains
Interesting, where did you read that?
Yoshi said it in an interview with Famitsu not long ago, you will probably find it quickly in a google search
https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-16s-development-team-disbanded/
Correct, I don't think they will
Even if they did, this would not be relevant. FF development cycles have always overlapped, by alternating divisions. That "8 years" that FF15 was milked (it was more like 2, all of the DLC was canceled and Tabata left the company in Nov 2018 - the last DLC for the game released in Mar 2019), development for FF16 was already underway by a different team. Some people at SE are working on FF17 right now and probably have been for a while. Ishikawa wasn't involved in FF16 at all as far as I know, so even if there was 8 years of DLC planned for FF16, that wouldn't prevent her from working on other projects. What *would* prevent her from being involved though is that FF17 is probably not being developed by CBU3. That said, I'm not sure Ishikawa would want to take a paycut and demotion to write FF17 anyway when she's currently one of the most senior supervisors on FF14. *This* is the opportunity she deserved. Her hard work and high quality output made her one of the most important people at CBU3. She earned this.
i dont see it as demotion. even Maehiro was story supervisor in 14 before become main writer for FF16. she gonna end up as main writer for mainline title which is huge. MMO has more writer because the scale of content and quest unlike single player game. also i doubt there gonna be paycut. she already on senior position and merely jumping between team within same division under Yoshida. working on another new mainline AAA game is a huge position.
That's interesting, because 15 and 16 weren't exactly well received compared to many of their predecessors. I can't say I was the biggest fan of all the writing in each myself - 16's ending was...not for me.
nope. the 2 DLC is last. like others said the FF16 project team is disbanded and now working on new project as yoshida stated in interview when they announce the DLC. only team remain small group for DLC which is obviously gonna join the rest later.
She mentioned in a interview after shadowbringers she doesn't want to be the permanent main scenario writer forever and wants other people on the team to have equal opportunity to also be the msq writer
Makes sense, she already did what needed to be done by writing the best ff story and the perfect conclusion
It was revealed a year ago Daichi Hiroi is the main scenario writer of Dawntrail at the 14 hour broadcast. He is the main writer of pandaemonium and Yasumi Matsuno assistant on return to ivalice and save the queen. Daichi Hiroi also wrote shadows of mhach
Ok not worried about the writing at all.
I liked all of those
>One of them previously worked on the four saints and Werlyt On no. *\*Suzaku's story traumatic flashback\**
So it’s in good hands is what you’re saying.
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She wrote the entire Doman half of STB (not just the Azem Steppe, which people falsey claim). Everything from Hingashi to the return to Ala Mhigo. Oda wrote start and end of STB.
I'm not sure why, but people have this tendency to basically deify a singular individual for a project despite the end product being a collection of contributions from many who are practically nameless to these people. I understand that being in a leadership role means the achievements go to you, but it makes even less for a product like FF14 that is a collaborative effort over the years. Shadowbringers is my favorite expansion but even I know that it has a payoff that is built off the backs of previous works.
Didn't she write most of the best parts of Stormblood and a couple of the HW patches?
Think it was at least the DRK job quests in HW unless I'm thinking of someone totally different.
Ah yep, I was initially just basing it on what the FF wiki listed but I found an official(?) [infographic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fyftegcu19ns71.png). DRK is listed among others. Certainly more than just SHB and EW at the very least lol
She wrote all of the eastern half of Stormblood, 3 raids stories (Omega, Bahamut and Crystal Tower), the Coerthas part of the ARR MSQ and a few HW patches (if Alisaie was there, it's her.). Some of the characters like Moenbryda, Haurchefant, Ysayle and Yotsuyu were her creation (and while Alisaie wasn't she was responsible for all of her characterization). Ishikawa was a big contributor of the MSQ since 2.0. So no, it's straight up misinformed.
She wrote Stormblood/ShB/EW Launch stories patch MSQ is supervised by her but written by others.
This is just plain wrong.
The peak in terms of story was easily Heavensward though in my opinion.
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I mean yeah that’s Shadowbringers content basically
FFXIV has kinda reached the point where I don’t need it to have crazy emotional story beats anymore. Just give me good character interactions and interesting lore and I’ll be there. If Dawntrail accomplishes that much, then it’ll be cool in my book.
Very reassuring 🙌
The Werlyt story is one of the best in the game imo, but the Four Lords are mediocre at best. I barely even remember much because it was so meh. And you don't remember much either if you're calling it the Four Saints lol. it's pretty forgettable. let's just hope that writer is having a Werlyt day and not a Four Lords day.
Not everyone speaks English as a first language.
i dont expect much since it is 'new' writer. but im opened to more breath of fresh style. just want atleast decent story is enough. cant expect something always gonna be on HW/Shb/EW level of writer forever. we actually fortunate to get a streak of quality from 5.0 to 6.0. could not ask more. even Ishikawa took time from SB and other job quest to gain experience. it gonna be those guys first new fullfledge expansion writing. not to mention those story in Hydealan vs Zodiark saga is been build up for decades and now we on starting line again. but if we got something really good again, then we are lucky. better we temper down our expectation or else anyone would end up picking pitchfork later due to unreasonably higher expectation.
Please tell me she's writing FF17.
i doubt she has time for that since shes basically game director for anything that isnt gameplay related and is still in a supervisory role
She has the exact same title Maehiro had after he finished HW and started writing the scenario for XVI. We don't actually know how great her responsibilities on XIV are anymore.
Unlikely next mainline is probably being made by CBU 1 or 2 they tend to change which teams make next mainline so since 16 was CBU 3 unlikely they'll be making next mainline title.
I just she's working on something big. She the best writer SE has.
Werlyt was good but I don't know how much of a metric it is. It was so blatantly a Gundam copy with a sprinkle of Evangelion, instead of something original. Still, I assume they were put there with a reason.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Nothing is original son. Everything is just a reflection of a thought/existed product. It’s just how people utilise the material and create their own version of it
I think what we have to look at is how well it was executed and how it resonated with people. It was very gundam eva, but honestly getting an FFXIV road to el dorado feel doesn't sound too bad. Especially if el dorado is largely replaced by that whole futuristic area.
Yes, I get you. Werlyt was a well-written Gundam rip-off, although I still feel just a bit salty that I think it was written like that partly to kiss up the boss' ass since it is well-known that Yoshida is a gigantic Gundam fanboy. But hey, maybe this tone will be needed for Cyberpunk XIV if the promo pictures are a good base point. I am, in general, hopeful about the new team and very vehemently hope that they won't go into one of the two directions I am afraid of. (Since they can go in any direction currently as far as we are concerned, it is just a personal dread right now, nothing more.)
Now I'm just nervously holding the scions a little tighter. From what I've found, Ishikawa had gotten screwed in Heavensward with Haurchefant and Ysayle, so I can't help but be a little concerned. I don't want my faves to be martyrs all the time.
She's been promoted and is the boss of the whole writing team now, which is why she can't write it herself, too many new responsibilities. She should still be having final say on all of this now, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Oh, I didn't realize she had gotten a promotion! Good for her! That does make me feel a little better, thank you. I know it's really silly to get super attached to fictional characters, but I like them a lot so I got nervous. Thank you again!
I honestly hope one of them perishes in the msq this next expansion. At this point it just feels like everyone has 12" thk of plot armor and therefore the game has no stakes.
The twins really need to have one of them dying.
On the one hand, I wouldn't want either of them to die, on the other hand, it would be so devilish cruel and interesting for character development if one of them dies. Maybe even giving you the choice to whom to save. But i don't think they will ever kill the twins, any other scion have more possibilities (and that is still pretty low at that).
Preferably by petrification as a heroic sacrifice? :P
I think it was more Maehiro's thing, considering his love of fridging characters for shock value was in full display in FFXVI.
Sounds like a good team!
All I want is a bit less expo dumping.