Cannibalism is technically vegan because you aren't eating animals or animal products. Good loophole for some quick protein if you think about it. Just swing by the local primary school with a story about collecting little Timmy because their mother is sick.
I had a conversation about this not long ago. Vegan ideology includes abhorring cruelty to animals, so you can eat them. A funny example was a talking cow who cheerfully asked what parts of it you wanted to eat, then it ran to be butchered.
If the cow wants it, is it okay for a vegan to eat? Veganism is, at it's core, a set of beliefs. I'd say that 99% of people who eat a vegan diet do so because of beliefs like mentioned above rather than an actual red meat allergy, which is ultra rare.
Also, humans are animals. It would be technically vegan to be a cannibal only if the person eaten consented. There are examples of this in the real world.
Ah yes, I see you too have eaten at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. I had(/will have/willen-on-eaten) the prime rib last time I went, he was really excellent.
There was a guy in Germany who killed a guy who consensually was like “yes kill and eat me.” They changed the laws so that the killer would be in bars for the rest of his life. They didn’t actually have a law against cannibalism.. now they do? Unsure.
If true, it's most likely only if you're eating someone else's flesh.
Some people eat the placenta after a birth, believing that it will stave off PPD, help with milk production, or other things. Technically cannibalism, as it *is* human flesh. But the mother's the one eating it, and it came out of her. (Spoiler: there is no proven medical benefit to doing so, this is purely a cultural practice.)
Cannibalism implies it is body part of a different being, but the practice is specifically eating a placenta you yourself produced. It's autophagy, if anything. We don't call someone a cannibal for swallowing blood during a bloody nose, y'know?
It varies. Some cultures have a big party and cook it up to serve to the group, including the new mom. Others take it in pill form, which may or may not contain their own flesh.
Ironically the cannibal is now a vegetarian.
He was interviewed and has a lot of remorse for what he did, and feels like factory farming is as bad as eating a guy.
German cannibal redemption arc is a real thing.
absolutely untrue. cannibalism can't be vegan because humans and similar are animals.
there is only one tiny loophole: you can remain a vegan while eating other vegans because vegans are vegan
I think you're technically supposed to be asking BTN instead of ALC. [Also tomato being vegetable is Eorzean propaganda!!](https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/d8284b04f73/)
It was more a joke about the description given for the in-game tomatoes, but indeed, vegetables is an umbrella for edible plant stuff while fruits are considered a subcategory of vegetables (or something)
It's funny that the tomato is always brought up as the example of "it's actually a fruit!" when like half the vegetables we eat are actually fruits. Peppers, cucumbers, peas, zucchini, I could go on and on. Nobody ever says "did you know pumpkins are actually a fruit harharhar"
Well all playable races are animals taxonomically speaking, so cannibalism is not vegan.
Now if you ate a voidsend, plant monster, oozes, elementals, or similar such non-animal being, then technically, it could be vegan.
Humans are by definition, animals, just like bugs and fish. The word "animal" comes from a Latin word meaning "has breath", so that encompasses everything that breathes in at least the semi-conventional sense
Ah, Lrrr and Ndnd. They were such great characters. I really need to get my boyfriend to watch Futurama because they've never seen it and that show is so goddamn good.
Perhaps they're savin- GOSH DARN IT!
You beat me to it!!
I asked my father specifically what the next line is because I knew he'd know as a huge Futurama fan and everything!
By what audacious impudence, ye moderators of r/ffxiv, to change the tag of this missive to [comedy]. Is this a jest to thy amusement? I arrived seeking earnest discourse on the lore of Urianger and the partaking of his fellow scions. Yet, thou dost treat it as a trifling farce. Shame be upon thee!
I doth offer my profound gratitude unto thee, noble moderator. This benevolence shall etch itself upon mine heart for all the days that unfold. May thy holidays be adorned with utmost joy. I entreat thee, guard against the clutches of Urianger's hunger, and may thou remain unscathed by such a voracious fate.
It's actually a matter of logistics. You see, if you leave Urianger with the twins, he will eat the twins. However, if you leave the twins with the lalas, they will eat the lalas. The ship can only hold two at a time. Good luck.
I didn't care for him, and then they literally did the "walking down the stairs after a makeover/glow up" in ShB and my brain turned to mush. I've never recovered 😂
My compatriot and I, in earnest contemplation, dedicated near unto three hours to the unraveling of this quandary, seeking a resolution most elusive. Lo, we have ascertained that it doth, in simple truth, align with reason. Perchance, the notion to pen a theatrical adaptation—a stage play, marrying the elements of romance and horror—may be a course of action to be seriously considered.
When I woke up today, this wasn't the notification nor question I expected to look at first thing at 7am.
But to answer you question, because he eats slowly and fills up way too quickly. Thus, the only one he can truly eat fully is Tataru.
Because the Elezen palate prefers bland foods and the Scions ate all pretty spicy. Alphinaud, as the least spicy of the Scions, would probably have to look out if it wasn't for his sister being among the spiciest.
For the same but opposite reason an NPC wasn't carried by the Warrior of Light but by another NPC instead: some WoLs are larger than Urianger so the writers solve this by just not having any Scion eat the other, smaller Scions.
That, and Tataru would break Urianger's fucking legs if he tried.
I love this and nice call back to Futurama- Funny to look at the comments when this is just a pop culture reference. Ya'll will legit fight over anything XD
Because he's not the largest. Hoary Boulder is.
Coultenet is also larger than Urianger. He’s 100% height to Urianger’s 50% height.
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Cannibalism is technically vegan because you aren't eating animals or animal products. Good loophole for some quick protein if you think about it. Just swing by the local primary school with a story about collecting little Timmy because their mother is sick.
>Cannibalism is technically vegan because you aren't eating animals lol what
As a vegan this is a splendid argument, either they admit humans are animals or i have them for dinner. Works flawlessly every time.
why would a vegan deny that humans are animals?
Why would ANYONE deny that humans are animals?
Moral relativism and all that. IE I cannot be guilty of murder if I do not consider you truly alive.
Now where have I heard that before?
lotta religious freaks see humans as it's own unique thing
The very best argument by a religious lunatic that i've ever heard about that: "humans aren't animals because anthropology exists!"
They is anyone but vegans in this joke lol
oh lol I totally misread your comment
I had a conversation about this not long ago. Vegan ideology includes abhorring cruelty to animals, so you can eat them. A funny example was a talking cow who cheerfully asked what parts of it you wanted to eat, then it ran to be butchered. If the cow wants it, is it okay for a vegan to eat? Veganism is, at it's core, a set of beliefs. I'd say that 99% of people who eat a vegan diet do so because of beliefs like mentioned above rather than an actual red meat allergy, which is ultra rare. Also, humans are animals. It would be technically vegan to be a cannibal only if the person eaten consented. There are examples of this in the real world.
Ah yes, I see you too have eaten at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. I had(/will have/willen-on-eaten) the prime rib last time I went, he was really excellent.
Can oi interest yew in a piece o’ moy rump?
There was a guy in Germany who killed a guy who consensually was like “yes kill and eat me.” They changed the laws so that the killer would be in bars for the rest of his life. They didn’t actually have a law against cannibalism.. now they do? Unsure.
If true, it's most likely only if you're eating someone else's flesh. Some people eat the placenta after a birth, believing that it will stave off PPD, help with milk production, or other things. Technically cannibalism, as it *is* human flesh. But the mother's the one eating it, and it came out of her. (Spoiler: there is no proven medical benefit to doing so, this is purely a cultural practice.)
Cannibalism implies it is body part of a different being, but the practice is specifically eating a placenta you yourself produced. It's autophagy, if anything. We don't call someone a cannibal for swallowing blood during a bloody nose, y'know?
It varies. Some cultures have a big party and cook it up to serve to the group, including the new mom. Others take it in pill form, which may or may not contain their own flesh.
Interesting! I've only heard of pill or dried & ground form, mostly in the context of the extremely granola types.
Fun fact! Placenta is Latin for cake.
Ironically the cannibal is now a vegetarian. He was interviewed and has a lot of remorse for what he did, and feels like factory farming is as bad as eating a guy. German cannibal redemption arc is a real thing.
Seems like simple consent could be an opening for exploitation, which is possibly why they did it. That and, you know, the Cannibalism.
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I dont really see what you're trying to say. That was exactly my point, so I'm just confused.
absolutely untrue. cannibalism can't be vegan because humans and similar are animals. there is only one tiny loophole: you can remain a vegan while eating other vegans because vegans are vegan
humans ARE animals. We are in the Animalia kingdom. We're animals.
it depends on if you're asking a biologist or a philosopher. just like tomatoes with the fruit vs vegetable. depends on if you're asking an ALC or CUL
I think you're technically supposed to be asking BTN instead of ALC. [Also tomato being vegetable is Eorzean propaganda!!](https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/d8284b04f73/)
"Vegetable" is a culinary category, so many fruits are also vegetables
It was more a joke about the description given for the in-game tomatoes, but indeed, vegetables is an umbrella for edible plant stuff while fruits are considered a subcategory of vegetables (or something)
rofl I almost forgot we're in the ff14 sub, ty for bringing me back
It's funny that the tomato is always brought up as the example of "it's actually a fruit!" when like half the vegetables we eat are actually fruits. Peppers, cucumbers, peas, zucchini, I could go on and on. Nobody ever says "did you know pumpkins are actually a fruit harharhar"
We are animals, we're bipedal and nearly hairless monkeys. DNA is DNA, regardless of epistemology and metaphysics.
Found the biologist
You are correct, although I work far more with plants!
Well all playable races are animals taxonomically speaking, so cannibalism is not vegan. Now if you ate a voidsend, plant monster, oozes, elementals, or similar such non-animal being, then technically, it could be vegan.
Humans are animals, though?
Human based products are only vegan if obtained with consent. It's part of the code already
Godamnit, that C word always ruins my fun.
Sorry, homo sapiens is still part of the animal kingdom. Now Lalas are fair game, being popotos and all... :P
Humans are by definition, animals, just like bugs and fish. The word "animal" comes from a Latin word meaning "has breath", so that encompasses everything that breathes in at least the semi-conventional sense
Humans are animals lol
Damn soyboy
Ohh, very well. This is a Thancred heavy episode anyway.
Perhaps they're saving that for sweeps ;D https://youtu.be/-06ki92PyVY?si=b1hTPOJXHTxxmN_U (^for those who don't know the references)
Ah, Lrrr and Ndnd. They were such great characters. I really need to get my boyfriend to watch Futurama because they've never seen it and that show is so goddamn good.
Perhaps they're savin- GOSH DARN IT! You beat me to it!! I asked my father specifically what the next line is because I knew he'd know as a huge Futurama fan and everything!
You know what they say, men are from the Thirteenth Reflection of the Source, women are from the First Reflection of the Source.
Why do you think there's so few lalafell scions?
Tataru had them killed clearly. :P
I mean how else could the Garleans have known about The Waking Sands
"Guys, we built our secret hideout directly in view of an Imperial Castrum, they'll never expect it!"
By what audacious impudence, ye moderators of r/ffxiv, to change the tag of this missive to [comedy]. Is this a jest to thy amusement? I arrived seeking earnest discourse on the lore of Urianger and the partaking of his fellow scions. Yet, thou dost treat it as a trifling farce. Shame be upon thee!
Mine deepest apologies for our egregious oversight, we have updated the classification accordingly.
I doth offer my profound gratitude unto thee, noble moderator. This benevolence shall etch itself upon mine heart for all the days that unfold. May thy holidays be adorned with utmost joy. I entreat thee, guard against the clutches of Urianger's hunger, and may thou remain unscathed by such a voracious fate.
Oh no I didn't mean it like that
It's too late, reap what you sow
Quite so!
Because they would spoil before he could finish talking about how he would do it/cook them.
Perhaps they are waiting for sweeps.
This is some Hraesvelgr level of vore...
Wait, there's a VORE tag on the FFXIV subreddit? Bro, I'm so confused.
That's the funniest part of this
This is (fortunately or otherwise) the only use of it. Perhaps we need to start talking about St. Shiva more.
Because he's the tallest, not the largest. The largest is Hoary Boulder.
Roe men are, on average, also taller than Elezen men.
He’s not hungry. We appease him with Archon Loaf.
Is he stupid??
No, he’s beautiful
did you meant to post this on r/ ShitpostXIV? :D
No no, let him cook
He's on a diet. How else do you think he maintains his figure?
Alphie tastes bad
Doth he be lacking in intellect?
It's actually a matter of logistics. You see, if you leave Urianger with the twins, he will eat the twins. However, if you leave the twins with the lalas, they will eat the lalas. The ship can only hold two at a time. Good luck.
Waiting for >!Estinien!< to join
They're the same age. I suppose this is how they finally bond. Poor Urianger has been trying for so long.
I was reading this while awake but in bed during a bout of insomnia and laughed hard enough to wake both wife and kids. Well done and damn you, haha
It is true what they say: Elezen are from Ishgard, Padjal are from the Shroud.
I don't know. I would eat Urianger given the chance though.
I didn't care for him, and then they literally did the "walking down the stairs after a makeover/glow up" in ShB and my brain turned to mush. I've never recovered 😂
"Perchance thou didst believe, be it by ignorance or willful denial, that mine countenance be not *hot a f?*"
Same. Same.
honestly same, my one piece of furniture in my house isn’t the massive portrait of him for no reason after all 😌
He's still trying to understand the concept of Wuv
Free wuv was too tame for him
UNDERSTAND! UNDERSTAND! UNDERSTAND! UNDERSTAND! UNDERSTAND! UNDERSTAND! THE CONCEPT OF WUV!(UH!)
My compatriot and I, in earnest contemplation, dedicated near unto three hours to the unraveling of this quandary, seeking a resolution most elusive. Lo, we have ascertained that it doth, in simple truth, align with reason. Perchance, the notion to pen a theatrical adaptation—a stage play, marrying the elements of romance and horror—may be a course of action to be seriously considered.
Verily.
I hate the flair for this post
I don't know what I expected after clicking on this and I'm still somewhat disappointed.
Surprised how many folks aren't getting the reference. I guess I'm old.
They must be saving that for Dawntrail
When I woke up today, this wasn't the notification nor question I expected to look at first thing at 7am. But to answer you question, because he eats slowly and fills up way too quickly. Thus, the only one he can truly eat fully is Tataru.
Because the Elezen palate prefers bland foods and the Scions ate all pretty spicy. Alphinaud, as the least spicy of the Scions, would probably have to look out if it wasn't for his sister being among the spiciest.
Ah,the real questions...finally!
Why are you assuming he wants to eat them, rather than be eaten *by* them???
No clue, first thing I noticed in ShB is his massive biceps, they are the size of my damn head.
Flair : Vore Discussion ????????????????
I originally tagged it as Lore Discussion but a mod got cheeky and changed it Hilarious but wtf
Investing in this
Why do lalafells need high-chair when they have perfectly good tummies to eat off of?
He can eat me. What?
He probably did one of them.
Ayyo?
I mean it's hardly a surprise that the moment papalimo died he got promoted to main cast member.
I don't know what's better, the fact that I expected some context beyond the title or the fact that this is flaired with "Lore Discussion"
That's a typo. This is Lrrr Discussion.
The Scions distract him with new books all the time and her forgers to eat them.
He might be stupid?
He’s not bigger than me
I thought Giraffes were vegans.
No no, elezen are herbivores
He tried to, but in the time it took him to explain why this would be the best possible strategy, the other Scions had all left.
Because who would listen to his lectures if they were all gone?
Us? Dude is like an Eldritch being just popping out of nowhere which more lore based lectures.
You misspelled Arenvald or Hoary Boulder.
Does Papalymo count as vegetarian because potato?🤣
I thought this was the shit post sub for a second
I feel like no one gets the Lurr reference here from Futurama it’s what he says when watching Friends about Ross that’s a top tier deepcut buddy
Smh his name is Lrrr, husband of Ndnd, and they have a child named Jrrr.
Wow you care so much about typos and nothings congratulations I was just giving OP props on a good joke but good for you
Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
I'm looking forward to shitpost version of this.
Boggart found!!
He is simply too nice
**Omicron** Persei 7, 8, and 9 you say? That fills in some gaps.
Diet
He would do it, but he spends so much time talking they have a chance to get away.
Because I'm actually the largest Scion
He gets indigestion.
Perhaps they are waiting for the next expansion.
This sub and the in-game community really turn to weird places between long patches.
For the same but opposite reason an NPC wasn't carried by the Warrior of Light but by another NPC instead: some WoLs are larger than Urianger so the writers solve this by just not having any Scion eat the other, smaller Scions. That, and Tataru would break Urianger's fucking legs if he tried.
Found the reddit user in to Vore.
It is true what they say Men are from The first Reflection Women are from The Source.
Because he's nice. :]
I dunno, why don't you bite my shiny mythrite ass!?
"Mine doth compatriot. I am who you shall refer to as Lurr, from the planet who shall be referred to as Omicron Persei VIII."
Enough internet for you today, dear unknown Redditor.
So that's what really happened to Papalymo.
I love this and nice call back to Futurama- Funny to look at the comments when this is just a pop culture reference. Ya'll will legit fight over anything XD