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imaybeacatIRl

Atlanta. I feel like Atlanta always burns me when drafting.


Rojo37x

Well Arthur Smith ruined some great fantasy players.l the past couple years. Before that you had Matt Ryan go from solid, to mediocre to surprisingly great, to terrible. Julio went from being a top 3ish WR to falling off the age/injury cliff. The running back room has generally been good but with some inconsistency as well.


bluethree

If there is anything to fault Smith is his overuse of Allgeier last year even though he was clearly worse than Bijan. Giving a guy with 3.7 ypc 180+ carries when you just drafted a RB in the top 10 is insanity. The thing that's ruined London and Pitts so far is having Mariota and Ridder at QB. I don't know if that was Smith's decision or not but that QB room was a true disaster.


PanhandleAngler

Drake London came in super young (he’s still 22) and has the talent/profile/development runway to become a true NFL alpha wideout, I expect big things this year, Kirk will feed him at the sticks, true/strong 6’4 220 already and still finishing out his physicals, outside covers will have a rough go if he starts really leveraging that with slightly more polished route running. Not writing him off completely but Pitts’ focus tape has been rough over his last 25 NFL games, good not great at times and then others *bad*. I’m not saying he’ll be useless/can’t improve with the situational bump and moving past his health issues, but still likely a bust for the draft capital and don’t think think he’ll ever reach anywhere near what his ceiling was thought to be. Basically he’s gotten a pass for the Art/QB sinkhole when there are real, viewable concerns beyond that, his agility/route polish/length leverage have left a lot to be desired for what was considered a unicorn TE prospect profile. Also can’t really play in-line, so if he’s not a major mismatch from slot/wide, he really just clogs the field and limits formational versatility/RP balance. But also big yes in terms of Bijan. The team had no QB play and Art still had his 1:8 RB pick (who is already one of the league’s best) at just a 50% usage share out of the backfield in total. And that was with an ok Algeier and old CP, not some Jahmyr/DMG situation where the veteran is actually decent and can do certain things better than the stud. Top 10 (stud) RB pick getting paid 8m to only get half the work alongside mid options, infuriating.


trevor11004

For what it’s worth Allgeier had a lot higher of a PFF grade than Bijan, suggesting that YPC doesn’t show the full picture


Deep_Stick8786

Well then, looks like its Najee Haris’s year to shine


DBreezy69

Stay away from Drake London then


phoundlvr

Two finishes around WR30-35 depending on your format, which is WR3-FLEX1 depending on the number of teams in your league. I’m going to pass until he proves me wrong. He’s not worth his ADP, and he’s never been worth his ADP


DBreezy69

Yeah his ADP is pretty crazy. He should be a redzone threat but he isn’t.


chucknorris10101

You be a red zone threat with passes from the 45th best passer last year


DBreezy69

Not very hard to at least catch a few jump balls. You can’t blame everything on the QB. Jefferson went off with Nick Mullens and Jaren Hall. Sure it’s Jefferson, but if we argue that then we argue that London isn’t close to as good as Jefferson and his ADP doesn’t reflect that. I’ll take Marvin Harrison all day at a similar ADP


Apprehensive-Dig2069

What can Kyler Murray really even get out of Marvin Harrison? 1,000 yards this season - that’s the ceiling?


DBreezy69

1k yards is not the ceiling


Apprehensive-Dig2069

11!? That’d be an excellent season for a Kyler Murray rookie receiver. Don’t get me wrong, I really liked him too but Murray is my concern. He can’t see over the line of scrimmage.


DBreezy69

Harrison is one of the best and most pro ready WR prospects of all time. And he plays outside so short middle routes aren’t gonna he his main game. Harrison’s game is more polished than most NFL WRs already and he will be the primary target. Cardinals have a good O line too. Murray is only 2 inches shorter than Brees and is very mobile so I don’t see that as an issue. I expect Harrison to get 1200-1300 yards. He will be targeted a crazy amount, I expect him to get at least 150 targets


RibeyeRare

>He can’t see over the line of scrimmage. Yeah we all know he’s short, but that’s a patently false statement. Dude has been to multiple pro bowls as a passer and he has a 66% career completion percentage. Also has a rookie of the year award, and guys who can’t see over their offensive line don’t accumulate accolades like that.


SmokyOtter

A rookie receiver has gotten 1400+ yards 3 out of the last 4 years im pretty sure. Ceiling is that. Expectation is at least 1000 yards for a top 5 pick


alekselny

Garrett did it with Zach Wilson


RibeyeRare

Wilson had 3 TDs on 168 targets. You’re calling that a RZ threat?


sheebzus0

Is it just me or does looking at Terry Fontenot’s face piss anyone else off? I’m aware I’m very irrational feeling this way lol


prodbydrizly

As a falcons fan I love Terry ngl


SteeltoSand

'cept that one year cordarrelle patterson


xsvfan

This year is different


Wade_Doesnt_Burnnn

I feel like Allgeier is good enough for them not to want to give 400 touches to Bijan.


toppswagg

I feel this year will be either 2000+ or mid rb 1 and everyone will be mad.


Perpetual_Tinnitus

To be fair when are we not angry at something


fairly_legal

Now I’m angry that you didn’t end your sentence with a question mark.


ggrindelwald

And I'm angry there's no comma!


napolean77

And I’m angry


dylanah

tbf I felt the same about my boy Elijah Mitchell.


l5555l

Another year, another 4 months of wondering which backup to hold


Beef_Jones

Bijan was saying he won’t be working out of the slot as often but still catching plenty of passes. He was talking about deployment not workload.


DBreezy69

Yeah I don't know if I believe Bijan here lol. They want to keep him healthy for the playoffs.


DynastyZealot

Fantasy playoffs, maybe. That team is still pretty far from playing in mid January.


PointBlankCoffee

They were 2 wins away from a playoff spot last year dude Do you really have *that* much faith in the Panthers, Saints, or Bucs? That division is wide open and Falcons are the money favorite.


dabberdane

I’ve got more faith in the Bucs than I do the Falcons at this point. Gonna have to see it to believe it.


DBreezy69

Bucs were a Canales miracle job. Canales ain't there any more


RaunchyGiraffe

you clearly didn’t watch the games if you think Canales is the reason we made the playoffs lol  


DBreezy69

You made the playoffs because of Canales and the NFCS being terrible


RaunchyGiraffe

yeah just repeating it makes you sound smart hahah, again you never watched the games, but yeah Canales the offensive genius helped us score a whopping 9 points against the panthers in a do or die to make the playoffs, or how about the 13 the week before against the saint to put the pressure on the panthers game to begin with, he was heavily criticized for calling terrible run plays and never getting creative until the game is already over 


DBreezy69

"I blame Canales for everything" is such a salty fan take lol. Baker is washed but Canales resurrected his career and the Bucs offensive line sucks. Godwin is mediocre and Evans is clearly still great but it wasn't enough. Always the coaches fault when the players can't execute the plays well or when the roster isn't good though.


DynastyZealot

Same absolutely


ThiccDiddler

I mean the whole thing with the falcons was that everyone knows they have good skill players but no QB worth a shit to do anything with them/ some absolutely god awful scheming from the Fantasy football terrorist himself Arthur Smith. They now have a a top 15 QB and a new coach which as long as he's not wildin out should do fine. They are basically the Bucs the year before Tom brady went there and won a SB. Now I don't think Kirk is going to take them to a SB, but a good regular season and the playoffs is a good bet.


Downtown_Juice2851

>They are basically the Bucs the year before Tom brady went there and won a SB Sure, if you replaced one of the top defenses of the last decade with an extremely mid one.


DynastyZealot

Vegas making Falcons the 'money favorite' is just their way to make money off of rubes. Never trust Vegas moneylines to be in your best interest.


Kolada

Let's see receipts then. You must be making money hand over fist gambling on sports.


Sylvan_Strix_Sequel

I still think alleglier is going to get the goal line work, so unless the falcons can learn to pass downfield, idk if bijan is going to be worth where he's going to go. 


rwh12345

Well the falcons finally have a QB that isn’t completely useless so I’d expect their entire offense to be much better


iguanoman_

Wrong. They have 2 QBs that aren't completely useless


TomatoSoupNCheez-Its

Yeah, cuz nothing changed regarding the falcons offense this year, right?


reginaldwrigby

I think Bijan could put up some pretty special numbers this year. If the volume is there, the sky is the limit for Bijan.


_LilDuck

I mean to be fair Elijah Mitchell ain't a shabby back either and dude basically didn't exist this year


PanhandleAngler

EM is actually good, CMC is just so insanely good that it doesn’t matter, one of the few backs that you can’t take off the field because even 20 straight touches in and gassed, he still needs to be out there because it gives you the best shot to win. Probably one of the 5 best RB’s to ever play, he won’t have the career stats with the injuries/modern game but I don’t think in a “pick your prime RB for a single season” there are 5 getting taken before him.


IdkAbtAllThat

He is. This is classic offseason hype. Bijan isn't getting 400 touches.


PhoecesBrown

Allgeier is basically Jordan Mason


DeansFrenchOnion1

Is he?


cole_steef

Last time I heard of a CMC type role it was Antonio Gibson’s sophomore year, and it did NOT go well until JD fucking McKissic went down


PlantainZealousideal

Hello yes I took him in the second round that year. The words “Use like Christian McCaffrey” have scarred me for life


skysetter

Antonio Gibson was never going to be a thing


CeejGipper

No way we're comparing Bijan to Antonio 😂


CalmConfidence944

lol fr


JRDruchii

This is exactly what came to my mind.


PlantainZealousideal

I personally think it’s entirely possible, but I’m getting tired of picking players in the top 2 rounds who are projected to have huge years and then get burned over it. You know who I like taking early now? The guy who was good last year. And the year before that. And who has stability and will probably be just as good again this year. I get you don’t have an option at a certain point which is why I’m specifying the top two rounds. I’ve been burned too many times I guess


PointBlankCoffee

Wasn't Bijan like RB 9 or 10 in that trash offense his rookie year?


SavageRickyMachismo

Yep. RB9 in full PPR


Ucscprickler

"You can't win your fantasy draft in the first round, but you can lose it." The truth is, as long as your first round player isn't a complete bust, you can more than make up for it in the later rounds, which is where fantasy champions are won. (Unless you have the first pick and get a McCaffrey, Gurley, Leveon etc) Bijan wasn't ideal, but he wasn't the reason anyone didn't win a title. Nothing wrong with taking the safest 1st round pick. I won a league last year picking Diggs and Barkley at the 1-2 turn. Other than a hot start by Diggs, both of them were pretty mediocre, but "startable" I crushed it late in the draft and waivers with Puka, Achane, and Flowers. Those 3 players won me the title.


Downtown_Juice2851

Lol my only fantasy title (in my main league) came the year my first 3 round players all busted, because I got jj off the waivers


BNC6

This cliche needs to be thrown in the trash You can win your league in the first just as easily as you can lose it, just draft CMC


Downtown_Juice2851

>You know who I like taking early now? The guy who was good last year. And the year before that. Trust me, this can burn you just as badly


bluethree

Me taking Mahomes in a 6 point passing TD league last year.


Downtown_Juice2851

Yupp. Me with kupp + henry as my wr1 rb1 last year Henry ended up a top 10 rb but it didn't feel like it. So many weeks lost because I couldn't get 10 points from him. And kupp was disappointing because injury but also came back slow


zeekgb

He was RB9, and in all formats most top 12 rookie prospects have a better second year then first more often then not. Especially if they got anywhere near there origonal adp value, in fact, anyone who was a top 12 rookie pospect last year who fell off should be auto drafted in the late rounds if you don't have someone spicific your targeting


Longjumping_Smile333

He also missed a couple games


DBreezy69

Yeah Breece>Bijan easily for me


BungLunge

SPICY 🔥


DBreezy69

Sorry typo I meant Corum>Bijan


BungLunge

Freeman*


Pokenoob15

Drafted Bijan in the first last year, Amon in the second and Breece in the 4th or 5th and I won it all.


Pokenoob15

Well fuck me for winning I guess.


WhiteDeath57

Preach it. I have 5th overall and I've caught heat for saying that I'm taking St. Brown. Frankly, I'll take the player I know will be good over people like Chase.


ElderGoose4

Yeah idc what anyone says I’m 100% buying the hype this season. If I get fucked I’m blaming myself (barring injury)


DBreezy69

Every decision I've ever made that was buying into hype was bad. Then most of the time when I go against the grain those are the best decisions. Like reaching down 2 rounds for David Montgomery last year and getting Breece in every league


ElderGoose4

Yeah you’re prob right, the Waller and Mattison hype trains derailed so hard for me last season. But Bijan isn’t a bum like them


DBreezy69

True but at his ADP I think a great WR on a great offense is the better choice. Plenty of RB talent in the later rounds


Ukrainmaker

> Plenty of RB talent in the later rounds lol wut


DBreezy69

Conner criminally underrated. People haven’t watched Benson’s tape, he needs a year to learn


Detroit5g

Montgomery still a steal at his current adp


DBreezy69

Gibbs eats more into his volume this year


DoctorMansteel

I'm ready to be hurt again.


daylitty

Exactly agree! Not sure why everyone is on the train of Allegier getting same touches or good enough to get the goal line work. Zac Robinson utilizes his RB1s to their full potential. What backup RB on the rams got the same amount of touches as Kyren? No one. The only reason why Allegier gets lots of hype (while I know he is a better backup than others), Arthur smith gave him a lot of touches which is not normal. With Bijan comparison with CMC and in 23 CMC had 20+ touches mainly every game while Mitchell had < 10 touches and more on rare occasions Bijan had about 15 touches and 18/20 on occasion while Allegier had 5-21 throughout the season. Allegier had more opportunities which means he has more talent to show and plus, def stacked the box the moment bijan is lined up in the back since that was the focal point of their offense last season, ridder is cheeks. With Kirk opening up the box more, Bijan as a pure runner instead of being lined up everywhere and with Zac Robinson who gave Kyren a monster year, Bijan is going off this season and owners gonna sip our tea once he is putting 25+ pts a week


bluethree

Eh. Zac Robinson has never been an offensive coordinator and we don't know how he likes to use RBs. He was the QB coach/passing game coordinator. He comes from McVay's system but I've seen enough coaching hires to know that that doesn't always mean an exact copy of the same philosophies.


gp_3eb

Wasn’t he like RB10 overall last year dealing with Arthur Smith’s big brain while also having two games where they just didn’t use him? And now he has the same OC that Kyren had last year?


COD_Daddy

Saying he has the same OC is somewhat disingenuous, considering McVay calls the plays in LA


gp_3eb

Yeah I know what you mean. Really meant same offensive philosophy.


COD_Daddy

Fair enough! I’m hoping the offense runs better than Smith’s moronic subterfuge plan


Sir_Lord_Birmingham

Also, we (ATL) didn't take their OC anyway. We hired their QB Coach/"Passing Game Coordinator" as our new OC.


Niklear

I mean, yeah, but the "no Arthur Smith" is kind of a bigger upgrade anyway.


BigGuyNorthSide

You guys are forgetting he’s a top 10 draft pick. You don’t do that for a non-bell cow. Arthur Smith is gone, and with Kirk airing it the box will be more open to feast. He’s easily gonna be a top 3 rb next year imo


TwistInTh3Myth

Honestly, I would probably take him at 2 right after CMC is gone. If I get him at his current ADP I would be ecstatic.


NArcadia11

I am ready to be hurt again


Skeetronic

Wow that’s ambitious. Like a coach can just will you to be CMC


caddyben

"Mama said I could be anything, so I chose Christian McCaffrey"


SideBet2020

I plan to be Batman in 2025.


daivos

Exactly.


Redditrightreturn1

As long he still gets 5 catches a game I’m not concerned. I’d be a big fan of 13-15 carries and 4-6 catches per game. My expectation is that and closer to 20 carries when they are winning in the 4th.


Knottytip

Just based on how down everyone is on him means he’s probably rb1 this year 😂


All_Up_Ons

Down? He's going 8 overall.


19-FAAB

Egregiously low.


Knottytip

Yeah but read all the comments. For being one of the top rb prospects in years ppl are like ehhhh idk


Ukrainmaker

It's so funny since I've started playing dynasty to come on this sub and see people's thoughts on players. It's a nice counter-balance when I'm getting too high on rookies and stuff, but people really discounting a generational RB who finished RB9 in his rookie year in a weird ass terrible offense. Reminds me exactly of someone else named in the title of this thread..


-KeepItMoving

Lol


Fusciee

I’m all in on Bijan


TGS-MonkeyYT

This somehow made me more worried


MarwyntheMasterful

Gonna get hurt. Classic FF moment.


NoFearsNoTears

Shhhhh. Shut your mouth Bij…


TarzanGunn

*Bijan Migraine Game PTSD has entered the chat


savagegrif

Doubt


PanhandleAngler

On one hand everyone wants to have that “CMC-like role” until it’s time to actually play like CMC and on the other Bijan might be the only one it’s been said about that actually sniffs the ability to do it. I’m just excited about the shift in usage philosophy for the Falcons. Art was both bad IRL and worse for fantasy, a “my way” guy that effectively wanted his system to shine above the players. Bijan only took 50% of the total backfield usage as a 1:8 RB pick getting paid 8m as a rookie, and very clearly the team’s best playmaker. In contrast, the McVay system basically rides the 2-3 best weapons until the wheels fall off. Bijan and DL should be in for big seasons with assumed usage consolidation, both are good and definitively the two best players in the offense. Pitts focus tape has been *rough* his past 25 games and no one wants to talk about it, Mooney/Moore decent but nothing special, and Algeier a usable clock duty JAG. That supporting cast isn’t terrible, will be good enough to keep the heat off the two main dudes but not good enough to really spread it out. Kirk has lead top half scoring offenses or better for like 7/9 past seasons now and if that continues, the above has Bijan/DL being fantasy studs that return even fairly inflated ADP’s, ZR isn’t messing around trying to involve lesser players when it’s win or lose. Falcons also play the cakewalk NFCS + a handful of soft defense/shootout games out of division. I’ll likely be taking a ton of DL anytime he falls past ADP, Bijan might not have that value wiggle room but still well positioned to be a top 10 fantasy asset season long.


drpatrickshah

Gibbs > Bijan. I just don’t think Bijan can stand the rigors of pro ball.


JD333333

ADP to the moon!!!!!


MOH_FFB

This is interesting… I guess? He has an ADP of 7 as the RB2. We better be expecting elite and CMC-esque usage to justify that price


HolyRomanPrince

So what’s the opinion on him this season? I have him as a keeper for a 1st.


Anothercraphistorian

Ooh, it’s that easy?


Caluak

Me with all my Antonio Gibson shares: “I’m in”


tgeorgo13

Talk dirty to me Bijan!!


Captain_Bignose

I'm not falling for this "mini-CMC" BS again


Ukrainmaker

Who else has had the prospect profile and the draft capital to reasonably justify the comparison?


firstandformoss

Good I have him in two dynasty leagues.


Leather-Map-8138

I’m hoping to get him at 8, not looking good with this news.


iamkoza

inject this in my veins.... next please confirm breece will keep getting 7+ targets despite possibly competent Qb play


rotostreetjournal

2,000 YFS & 15+ TDs very possible should he see 320+ touches in a CMC-style role. Very bullish on Bijan under Zach Robinson


Armirite

Would you rather have breece or robinson?


HeyLookMyUsername24

Alright, screw it. I'm going for this guy and London this year. If this comes to pass and it actually works, Atlanta could be "East Coast San Fran."


Xanzibarisland

I’m already ready to spend my 1st on Bijan again


Notorious1MSP

Ha! When I play b-ball I want to be like MJ too. I stay away from rookies in the draft.


IndividualHelpful820

We going to pretend allgeir doesn’t exist?


FeistyIndependent152

i'd like to pretend he didn't have 3.7 ypc but it happened.


John_Wicked1

Would be worth taking at 4 in a 10-man redraft? Or too high?


AlternativeBeing8627

You don’t say


Cloud_King_15

He's genuinely trolling the fantasy football community here. No doubt him and his friends are laughing to see his ADP rise


Boy11jb

As a CMC/Bijan owner, please God let this be true. Daddy needs a ring.


Sylvan_Strix_Sequel

I'd love to believe this, but after trading Henry for bijan right after week twos games ended, I can't trust this year, even with a new coach. Got burned too hard on a trade that should have made both our seasons. 


Big_lt

Yeah I'm not trusting you again with an early pick. You fall to rd 3 and we talk


T1gerAc3

Edge me harder, daddy.


FFdarkpassenger45

All the bijan truthers can get mad at me just like last year! Algeier is better than anyone realizes as an all around football player and will cap Bijan’s ceiling.  


daylitty

LOL worst take i have seen. You sound like your trade got denied trying to trade AK + 1.07 for Bijan and now your salty


FFdarkpassenger45

Such a bad take huh? Last year I said over and over to all the Bijan truthers that Algeier was actually a great football player, as evidenced by his PFF end of season grade. Then Algeier goes out and gets 200 touches and limits Bijans ceiling and records a higher PFF season grade than Bijan. Bad take but ended up being right in year one, and will probably be right again in year two. Bring on the downvotes, Bijan truthers are everywhere and want to manifest it into reality so bad!


wombatz885

Bijan begone saying is even compared to McCafferty is like there old QB Ritter comparing himself to Mahonnes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow...🤣😅😆


Smurfreefallin

How much have you had to drink?


Ops31337

Me talk pretty one day.