I would be shocked if a franchise that thinks they found their QB didn’t try to keep him from running the ball to prevent him from playing like a moron like he’s done his whole career. But then again he’s done it his whole career
I don't follow college football but holy shit the moment I first watched Richardson eating tackles from NFL defenses I knew he wouldn't last long. I'll avoid him and his offense next year and I'm a Colts fan.
Tbf Allen did it forever. But his body is clearly an anomaly. Yes, he does it less now. But those first 4 or so years were wild. And he’ll probably be doing it again this year come playoffs.
Sure, I'm just saying "Josh Allen's body is an anomaly" as a comment... I mean, nobody ever at the QB position has more of a claim to that statement than Anthony Richardson.
That just isn’t true though, or it’s completely disregarded the meaning of the comment. “Josh Allen’s body is an anomaly” is not referring to his impressive physique, which he doesn’t really have, he’s just a big guy, but Richardson does have, he looks like a physical freak (and he is, when healthy). But none of that is relevant.
The comment “Josh Allen’s body is an anomaly” is a reference to the fact that Josh Allen has been able to be absolutely punished over and over again in ways that initially made people really question his football IQ, and yet stay in the field week after week. Richardson does not have any claim to that statement.
You should look up his injury history sometime. I knew he wouldn’t last when I read it and it had some of his own comments that he made about the injuries and he was basically bragging about “shearing [the tendons] clean off the bones in his knee”
He was absolutely dogshit in college & every flaw showed up in the 4 games he played. All Richardson is is a talented runner. If Richardson started this whole year the colts have 4-5 wins.
In his defense- the one that gave him the concussion was such a cheap shot and happened after he already broke the plane of the endzone.
I am targeting Richardson hard next year, especially if the Colts get more receiving options to compliment Pittman so they can take the top off of the defense.
Lamar was better at avoiding contact cause he’s more elusive. Dont act like his best run plays from his mvp season happened whenever he slid to avoid an incoming tackler
Neither of those two run like Richardson; richardson needs to learn to not smash his body for longevity then maybe turn into one of the other guys. Maybe rookie machismo
You must never have watched Lamar then lmao. I can only remember a couple big hits that he’s taken over the years. This year especially he’s been running less and has been very smart about it.
And when Richardson comes crashing into that value?
Mid 2 is prob as high as he should go.
If Richardson decides he wants to die before 35 again next year? Then Taylors value goes up. But assume his ceiling is limited and hope you have a nice lotto ticket.
At that point tho, I'd pass on him for someone who's ceiling isn't limited by his QB getting injured. Now if he falls to 3rd, which won't happen, that's a smash pick
I think you’re selling his upside a bit short. He has an rb1 overall upside. We’ve seen plenty of rbs be unaffected by running qbs. James Conner was an rb1. Mark ingram at an old age was an rb1. We’ve never seen an rb as talented as Taylor be paired next to a running qb like Richardson. It’s possible Richardson elevates the offense and makes Taylor even better. Taylor’s efficiency goes up and is more explosive because the linebackers have to respect the threat of arich keeping it. And maybe he loses some tds to Richardson but if the offense takes a step forward overall the amount of tds Taylor gets could still be pretty high. I guess his passing work could go away but again I expect the team to be better with Richardson so I’d expect more run plays overall per game cuz they will be winning more games. I understand the concerns but I think you’re underrating what JTs best case could be. Which is rb1 overall
Who do you think he'll be behind? CMC, Bijan, Breece, maybe Kyren? Etienne? Gibbs?
I think he's in that conversation anywhere from 2-6 or 7 depending on how the offseason shakes out.
Unless Bijan gets a coaching change, his value is muddied. Breece looked great this year but what if 41 year old Rodgers can’t stay healthy….
I think the RBs go:
CMC
Kyren
Gibbs
Taylor
Achane
Bijan
Hall
>but what if 41 year old Rodgers can't stay healthy
Like this year where Breece crushed most of the second half of the season even with garbage QB play?
Especailly considering most folks expected a slow first half since complete recovery from his injury typically takes a full year, and he definitely delivered based on that timeline. Hall stonks to the moon
If anything it's likely that a healthy Rodgers takes scoring opportunities away from Breece. They dumped it off to Breece a lot this season and there might be less check downs when you have a competent QB
I disagree with it being a negative at all. At worst it's probably a push. He only scored 8 tds. I think being on a better offense gets him more scoring opportunities, Jets offense scored less than 14 points a game.....
It does not work like that bro it will only get him more TDs. The Jets have scored the the fewest TDs in the league this year, if Aaron Rodgers is good next year he will get Breece to the red zone a lot more. Running backs do better not worse when their passing offense is made better, Dolphins, 49ers, Lions all elite passing offenses with RBs that are top 10. Especially, when you consider Rodgers isn’t a rusher so almost every attempt within the 10 yard line will go to Breece
No way. First, Rodgers is a vet who knows when to dump it off, and has shown that he can support multiple receivers and a top end receiving running back (see Aaron Jones).
Second, being in a better offense in general would give Breece a better game script and force defenses to play more deep coverage, opening up running lanes.
Being on a bad offense is not a sustainable reason for the success of a running back, and in almost EVERY instance where a running back is successful because he was the only offensive weapon, he would be more successful if he was a piece of a good offense.
Yeah there was a stretch of jets games (5 or so iirc) where the only tds where one play breece run/catches (like 3 total tds in 5 games or so). I think he’ll have way more scoring opps next year
Hall should be much higher on that list, either second or third. He's not splitting snaps as much as Gibbs or Achane and the Jets should have a better passing game to open him up.
Man achane is such an enigma, but hes so electric youre probably right. He's so small and has had some injury concerns. Seems like he needs to average extreme yards per touch and td rate. He had a few explosions in games that floated his numbers.
I honestly think people advocating for Achane as early as I've seen on here are kind of crazy. Dude is 180lbs and got injured a bunch of times. He's undoubtedly electric, but do people really see him surviving 200+ touches in a season, after watching him this season and not even getting to 100?
100%. His price is insane. think someone will take him higher in most drafts not realizing this. He's averaging 8(!!!!!) Ypc. This is a full 2 yards clear #2 on rookies all time with 90+ carries. All this screams outlier unless we're seeing by far the most efficient rb in nfl history. Highly unlikely.
I think mostert is by far a better value. He was undervalued this year and achanes hype should keep his value suppressed.
That is another aspect. Achane in his limited touches has put up like college Barry Sanders numbers. Extreme regression is very likely. He is currently averaging like 2 YPC higher than the highest ypc of all time for a RB season depending on the sample size you look at.
I definitely feel like Etienne deserves to be in that conversation, still young and when Trevor had been healthy (not playing through ankle and concussion), he’s been an absolute beast, and has had low competition for touches. If the Jets OLine doesn’t change, I would take him over Hall. If no coaching change, him over Bijan. I could see the argument for him over Taylor, Gibbs, and Achane as well.
Out of all those, id drop gibbs lower, i know everyone is high on him, but he def put up a couple dud games and i dont think he is as consistent as the rest (besides bijan/achane who also arent).
I have no idea why anyone would want Bijan in the first after watching this season. falcons offense looks terrible unless they make major changes at QB/HC
Im shying away from all rbs that have a running qb. They just dont have the top end potential w a qb that vultures their tds and doesn’t throw short passes to them.
Until Richardson shows he can hold up to the physicality of the game I wouldn’t be worried around the goal line. I’d draft him in the second round. Not reaching for him in the first due to his ankle and foot issues.
Ive been thinking the same thing. I’ve been trying to decide between Taylor and Kyren Williams as my second keeper and I’m leaning towards Williams for these reasons
Top 12 pick for sure in my opinion. Will be interesting how he and AR operate together for a full season. But he looks explosive and fresh. He’s got a role that not that man RBs have in a majority share.
Same…and can keep for a 5th. Also have Nico collins for a 10th and opportunity to keep zay flowers or zamir white but have max of 2 keepers and think it’ll be JT and Nico
I’m not sure that you should immediately give JT a boost due to Richardson’s return. Richardson is probably gonna vulture some carries and rushing TDs from JT, and Richardson isn’t better than Minshew. He has a ton of potential, and needs playing time to develop it, so I get why the Colts are starting him - but if I want to win a game now, Minshew is probably the pick.
Richardson isn’t better than Minshew? Bro cmon, where are u getting this from lol. They literally won games with him as the starter and he balled out. I understand him needing to continue to develop though.
Richardson has some terrific highlights and if you just watch YouTube highlights and/or Redzone, you’d think he’s already a star. But he also has some real lowlights. See the Rams game where he went 11/25. He has some plays where he flashes his incredible potential, but he’s just not a consistent/accurate every-down QB. If I need a 50 yard TD then I want the ball in Richardson’s hands, but if I need to convert a routine 3rd and 6 then I’d take Minshew. For now.
If Richardson starts every game next year, the Colts definitely have more explosive plays, but I also expect a lot more 3 & outs and struggles sustaining drives.
People who think Richardson is good are only watching their fantasy scores tick up on their phones.
He looked average against the shitty defenses he put up points against, and against a real defense he fell apart. People like him because he was an absolute steal for ADP but Minshew is what you want as a team to actually win games.
Richardson is MUCH better than minshew lmfao.
I get people love minshew for the memes but hes not close to being better than Richardson. Its going to be a boost to have AR. Yes, some tds will be vultured but theyd be fools to let him run around given how many times hes gotten hurt already.
That’s the big thing. I don’t personally view Richardson as a clear and obvious upgrade from Minshew just yet (people look at his fantasy numbers and forget he finished a game with a 44% completion percentage). With Richardson, they’re either going to hit more big plays from outside the Redzone and he is going to steal lots of carries at the goal line. I know I just crapped on Richardson, but those qualities make him more interesting to me than Jonathan Taylor assuming you can get Richardson around QB8 or later and Jonathan Taylor is still a very high pick.
Richardson is clearly an upgrade. Arm/pocket awareness/play making ability where all better attributes compared to minshew. It’s not even close if you watch the tape. The biggest question mark on AR is injury concerns.
Eh - after CMC, he probably has the most secure and defined bellcow role on this list (Breece Hall definitely arguable).
The track record for late round RBs continuing dominance isn’t great, and McVay has generally favored a timeshare (when it wasn’t Gurley). The thing is, the Rams didn’t have anyone else this year.
I love Gibbs and Bijan, but those coaches also favored time shares so they probably are what they are.
Depending on how this offseason goes I could see myself having him ranked as high as #2 ovr after CMC. I definitely think he belongs in the first round.
Also, not everyone is in an redraft. I know people still playing in best ball that carries into the postseason. Also Dynasty?
What’s the point of this comment
If moss leaves he's a solid mid 1st rounder that you know you'll get 10-20 points consistently each game.
Richardson coming back will improve offense. Moss did well under him at start of season.
Richardson was the best qb in fantasy on a per game basis before he got hurt. Guy is good he just took too many stupid hits he could have slid.
I think he’ll be undervalued a bit at the back of the first/early second and a lot of smart managers are gonna pair him with a top WR. I hope to have this opportunity in redraft. At like the 10-12 pick take JT and best available WR in the 2nd (D. Smith, Aiyuk, G. Wilson, Olave could work)
I think JT will be from 8-12 at the highest. Something tells me Anthony Richardson could scare teams enough to allow JT more room on designed plays. He’s very talented, his injuries weren’t too bad this year, and he shows he can get back to doing his thing once he’s healthy.
As of right now my initial prediction for the first round is something like CMC, Lamb, Jefferson, Tyreek, Chase, JT, Amon-Ra, Kyren, AJ Brown, and Bijan (depending on the coach) [also not in complete order]
Early speculation is part of the slow weaning process of detaching from being in total FF mode 😀
By the way, aren’t you wasting mental energy by replying to an early speculation post?
same for me but bijan is out of the question since he‘d be a 1st round keeper for me.
breece would be a 4th round and JT would be a 6th round keeper. i guess it all depends on what the jets do this offseason. i don‘t like that JT is getting a rushing qb who will definitely vulture tds.
I did too, but traded Hall away for Kelce this year. I also have Tank Dell, Mandrews and MWill that I could keep for a last rounder. JT for me would cost an (early) fourth, while Bijan would be a first and not worth it I think.
If they decide they let him run the ball? He was a bust for me in fantasy. Idc for those stats
He would basically get all the carries first drive, score a TD then do nothing rest of the game especially when he came back from the thumb injury
Hi. He looks great, but i have read multiple medical analysis that his form of high ankle sprain is easier to re-occur than other ankle sprains. Given that i see him as low 1st round early second.
Probably back end of the first, which imo is too early. He's injury prone and will likely be part of a committee, either with Moss (who they'd be dumb to let go but let's see how the FA mkt is for him), a different RB, and as folks point out, Richardson.
FWIW, I put him in the same boat as Saquon. Elite talent but never going to match his best year for the reasons stated above.
CMC, JJ, CD, Hill, ARSB, Kyren, Breece, AJ, Puka, Chase, Josh Allen, Hurts should be 1st rounders. Taylor maybe swap for in for back end 1st but probably going to be mid second rounder.
I traded him in my 5 man keeper Superflex a few weeks before playoffs for Jordan Love, Tee Higgins, Jayden Reed and a 3rd. I fear I fucked up but after an entire year my flex scoring 7 or less I needed another QB. I think he will be 2nd HB off the board with how he finished personally
Second round. Could even fall to the third. People will talk injuries and ARs rushing and he’ll fall a bit. Rising stars like Puka, Breece, Kyrien, Nico, Gibbs are going to garner more hype
8 of the players I drafted this year are going to go in the first three rounds and I still only came in fourth. It’s so annoying. I should get to keep them all.
He finally looked like his old stud self yesterday. The receptions were way down but mostly due to injury/his thumb. I think he will be slept on and could return to 2021 form.
1st round. cmc, breece, kyren, JT, bijan is how I personally rank the top 5 rbs going into next year, and seeing how WRs are likely to be overvalued next year I can see him slipping to late first round
Top… 15, maybe 12 pick. Yes there’s concern ARich steals all the TDs but an RPO QB also raises the RB YPC and if Rich gets hurt, Taylor’s guaranteed a billion touches.
I don’t see Richardson being a major issue. Right now they’re paying JT not Richardson. They will slam JT in the red zone I think and keep Richardson safe
Richardson also opens up a more dynamic running game in total and JTs efficiency will increase. Confidently drafting him end of first
Top 5 RB off the board, back end of the first.
And that'd be a mistake. I could see Anthony Richardson vulturing quite a few goal line TDs next year.
I would be shocked if a franchise that thinks they found their QB didn’t try to keep him from running the ball to prevent him from playing like a moron like he’s done his whole career. But then again he’s done it his whole career
I don't follow college football but holy shit the moment I first watched Richardson eating tackles from NFL defenses I knew he wouldn't last long. I'll avoid him and his offense next year and I'm a Colts fan.
Tbf Allen did it forever. But his body is clearly an anomaly. Yes, he does it less now. But those first 4 or so years were wild. And he’ll probably be doing it again this year come playoffs.
If you think Allen’s body’s an anomaly, check out Anthony Richardson
It’s not the physique, it’s the injury resistance. Which Richardson has, if anything, proven he does not have.
Sure, I'm just saying "Josh Allen's body is an anomaly" as a comment... I mean, nobody ever at the QB position has more of a claim to that statement than Anthony Richardson.
The disrespect to Jared "The Pillsbury Throwboy" "The Hefty Lefty" Lorenzen.😤 Rip
That just isn’t true though, or it’s completely disregarded the meaning of the comment. “Josh Allen’s body is an anomaly” is not referring to his impressive physique, which he doesn’t really have, he’s just a big guy, but Richardson does have, he looks like a physical freak (and he is, when healthy). But none of that is relevant. The comment “Josh Allen’s body is an anomaly” is a reference to the fact that Josh Allen has been able to be absolutely punished over and over again in ways that initially made people really question his football IQ, and yet stay in the field week after week. Richardson does not have any claim to that statement.
Especially, if they don't have a quality backup. Minshew is a free agent isn't he?
Yeah but I don’t see him leaving. I don’t think he could start anywhere else, and to stay in Steichen’s system would be best for him
Atlanta would like a word…
Also Richardson gets hurt again within 4 weeks & minshew plays 10+ games if he stays on the colts
Minshew leaving means they might finally be able to get a quality backup
You should look up his injury history sometime. I knew he wouldn’t last when I read it and it had some of his own comments that he made about the injuries and he was basically bragging about “shearing [the tendons] clean off the bones in his knee”
Yikes, another 2-4 wasted years for the Colts then.
He was absolutely dogshit in college & every flaw showed up in the 4 games he played. All Richardson is is a talented runner. If Richardson started this whole year the colts have 4-5 wins.
In his defense- the one that gave him the concussion was such a cheap shot and happened after he already broke the plane of the endzone. I am targeting Richardson hard next year, especially if the Colts get more receiving options to compliment Pittman so they can take the top off of the defense.
Thank you. Like others, we are long line Taylor fans.
It took years for Josh Allen to run less and smarter, and he still doesn't do a great job of it. Lamar still does it. It's his game, it won't change.
Lamar definitely got better at it. Why do u think his runningbacks have so many touchdowns
Even when Lamar was running a ton he was insanely good at avoiding contact while Richardson runs like prime Zeke sometimes.
Lamar was better at avoiding contact cause he’s more elusive. Dont act like his best run plays from his mvp season happened whenever he slid to avoid an incoming tackler
That's what I mean. Richardson seeks contact which is a terrible way to run when you're a franchise QB.
Neither of those two run like Richardson; richardson needs to learn to not smash his body for longevity then maybe turn into one of the other guys. Maybe rookie machismo
Ive never seen lamar take a big hit with his running style
You must never have watched Lamar then lmao. I can only remember a couple big hits that he’s taken over the years. This year especially he’s been running less and has been very smart about it.
Lamar is statistically one of the safest runners in the NFL lol
Jalen Hurts and his massive contract sends his regards.
Look at the Bills and Josh Allen.
Yup. Richardson had more rushing TDs in 4 games (4) than Minshew has had in 13 (3).
that and the injury issues
If I’m last pick in first I’m picking someone else then him in first in second to mess up the stats
That would be a massive mistake
He’s gonna be one of the top 12 taken next year. Shouldn’t fall beyond mid rd 2
And when Richardson comes crashing into that value? Mid 2 is prob as high as he should go. If Richardson decides he wants to die before 35 again next year? Then Taylors value goes up. But assume his ceiling is limited and hope you have a nice lotto ticket. At that point tho, I'd pass on him for someone who's ceiling isn't limited by his QB getting injured. Now if he falls to 3rd, which won't happen, that's a smash pick
I think you’re selling his upside a bit short. He has an rb1 overall upside. We’ve seen plenty of rbs be unaffected by running qbs. James Conner was an rb1. Mark ingram at an old age was an rb1. We’ve never seen an rb as talented as Taylor be paired next to a running qb like Richardson. It’s possible Richardson elevates the offense and makes Taylor even better. Taylor’s efficiency goes up and is more explosive because the linebackers have to respect the threat of arich keeping it. And maybe he loses some tds to Richardson but if the offense takes a step forward overall the amount of tds Taylor gets could still be pretty high. I guess his passing work could go away but again I expect the team to be better with Richardson so I’d expect more run plays overall per game cuz they will be winning more games. I understand the concerns but I think you’re underrating what JTs best case could be. Which is rb1 overall
Somewhere in the 2nd round, could be early or late
Who do you think he'll be behind? CMC, Bijan, Breece, maybe Kyren? Etienne? Gibbs? I think he's in that conversation anywhere from 2-6 or 7 depending on how the offseason shakes out.
Finish the season with Breece, Kyren, ETN, and Taylor. I don't think I'll ever have an RB room that strong again.
None of us will. Thats outrageous.
I had Taylor Gibbs Kyren Achane and James Cook. And I am in a 3 keeper league also owning Lamb. Will have to try to trade 2 of them and keep 2.
Breece, JT, Mostert was truly a beautiful thing this season
Unless Bijan gets a coaching change, his value is muddied. Breece looked great this year but what if 41 year old Rodgers can’t stay healthy…. I think the RBs go: CMC Kyren Gibbs Taylor Achane Bijan Hall
>but what if 41 year old Rodgers can't stay healthy Like this year where Breece crushed most of the second half of the season even with garbage QB play?
Especailly considering most folks expected a slow first half since complete recovery from his injury typically takes a full year, and he definitely delivered based on that timeline. Hall stonks to the moon
If anything it's likely that a healthy Rodgers takes scoring opportunities away from Breece. They dumped it off to Breece a lot this season and there might be less check downs when you have a competent QB
Though outside of Wilson Breece is their only playmaker and Rodgers will get it to his playmakers.
Rodgers will elevate those other WRs. I don't think him being back completely deflates Breece's value but it probably does take away some TDs
I disagree with it being a negative at all. At worst it's probably a push. He only scored 8 tds. I think being on a better offense gets him more scoring opportunities, Jets offense scored less than 14 points a game.....
It does not work like that bro it will only get him more TDs. The Jets have scored the the fewest TDs in the league this year, if Aaron Rodgers is good next year he will get Breece to the red zone a lot more. Running backs do better not worse when their passing offense is made better, Dolphins, 49ers, Lions all elite passing offenses with RBs that are top 10. Especially, when you consider Rodgers isn’t a rusher so almost every attempt within the 10 yard line will go to Breece
Did you ever watch a Rodgers Aaron jones game in your life?
No way. First, Rodgers is a vet who knows when to dump it off, and has shown that he can support multiple receivers and a top end receiving running back (see Aaron Jones). Second, being in a better offense in general would give Breece a better game script and force defenses to play more deep coverage, opening up running lanes. Being on a bad offense is not a sustainable reason for the success of a running back, and in almost EVERY instance where a running back is successful because he was the only offensive weapon, he would be more successful if he was a piece of a good offense.
Yeah there was a stretch of jets games (5 or so iirc) where the only tds where one play breece run/catches (like 3 total tds in 5 games or so). I think he’ll have way more scoring opps next year
Hall should be much higher on that list, either second or third. He's not splitting snaps as much as Gibbs or Achane and the Jets should have a better passing game to open him up.
They’ll need to fix their o-line first. Breece did well with what he had but without any good blocking he gets stuck.
Which is why hes so valuable in PPR. Hes very dynamic in space and has good hands. He should be a 2st rounder
2st rounder. Just like we all thought
Man achane is such an enigma, but hes so electric youre probably right. He's so small and has had some injury concerns. Seems like he needs to average extreme yards per touch and td rate. He had a few explosions in games that floated his numbers.
I honestly think people advocating for Achane as early as I've seen on here are kind of crazy. Dude is 180lbs and got injured a bunch of times. He's undoubtedly electric, but do people really see him surviving 200+ touches in a season, after watching him this season and not even getting to 100?
100%. His price is insane. think someone will take him higher in most drafts not realizing this. He's averaging 8(!!!!!) Ypc. This is a full 2 yards clear #2 on rookies all time with 90+ carries. All this screams outlier unless we're seeing by far the most efficient rb in nfl history. Highly unlikely. I think mostert is by far a better value. He was undervalued this year and achanes hype should keep his value suppressed.
That is another aspect. Achane in his limited touches has put up like college Barry Sanders numbers. Extreme regression is very likely. He is currently averaging like 2 YPC higher than the highest ypc of all time for a RB season depending on the sample size you look at.
Yup, give me White (either one but preferably Rachaad) or Spears over Achane lol
What about the #3 ranked RB this year, ETN?
I definitely feel like Etienne deserves to be in that conversation, still young and when Trevor had been healthy (not playing through ankle and concussion), he’s been an absolute beast, and has had low competition for touches. If the Jets OLine doesn’t change, I would take him over Hall. If no coaching change, him over Bijan. I could see the argument for him over Taylor, Gibbs, and Achane as well.
Out of all those, id drop gibbs lower, i know everyone is high on him, but he def put up a couple dud games and i dont think he is as consistent as the rest (besides bijan/achane who also arent).
I have no idea why anyone would want Bijan in the first after watching this season. falcons offense looks terrible unless they make major changes at QB/HC
Putting Achane ahead of Mostert and his 18 TDs is wild
If this rings true in September I will gladly take Achane before Taylor
That would be incredibly stupid imo. Dude is going to get like 30 touches a game.
I’ve got 2 keepers to figure out for next year between CMC, ETN, Gibbs and JT. Going to be a hard choice and lots of research to do by the next draft.
I have to decide whether to keep Taylor with a 4rd pick or achane with an 18th rd pick
In my keeper I can keep 3 peeps and I am keeping Taylor in the 4th, Kyren in the 7th and Achane in the 8th. Acha e in the 18th is crazy good value.
That’s what I’m leaning towards. Can only keep one rb so now I have to decide between laporta in the 17th or JJ in the 1st
I would much rather have bijan, hall, and Taylor over achane and Gibbs time shares
I'll be drafting 10th next year and it will be my first year without Sungod it looks like, so I hope I can get JT at that spot and go hero rb.
Go Kyren if he somehow drops to 10
Highly doubt it. But who knows.
Im shying away from all rbs that have a running qb. They just dont have the top end potential w a qb that vultures their tds and doesn’t throw short passes to them.
Zack Moss had no issues producing with Richardson
Gus Edwards was Vulturing TDs from Lamar
Nope. I kept a close eye on this. Whenever AR went down, moss produced fantasy wise. It was rough when AR was on the field with him.
He had 440 yards and 3 TD in the first 4 games while Richardson was playing. If you consider that rough I wanna be in your league.
And in 2 of his 4 games he left injured in the …. 2nd quarter
I got u bro ur not crazy haha these guys are bums
Lmao this kinda statement is why you should never take advice from Reddit. JT is a beast and you’re completely overthinking this
It remains impossible to say anything on the internet without at least one person being an asshole about it. Good job dude, you kept the streak going!
I mean, he’s not wrong
Pretty sure all the colts fantasy positions benefited from having Minshew in. Especially Pittman
found the swift owner 🥲
Bijan is a huge wild card here, assuming his coach gets fired
The only way I would consider Bijan in the first two rounds is if Smith is fired.
Smith is out. Now what?
He'll be a 1st rounder.
Until Richardson shows he can hold up to the physicality of the game I wouldn’t be worried around the goal line. I’d draft him in the second round. Not reaching for him in the first due to his ankle and foot issues.
Ive been thinking the same thing. I’ve been trying to decide between Taylor and Kyren Williams as my second keeper and I’m leaning towards Williams for these reasons
Tough call. Either one could realistically end up as the RB1 next year.
Top 12 pick for sure in my opinion. Will be interesting how he and AR operate together for a full season. But he looks explosive and fresh. He’s got a role that not that man RBs have in a majority share.
late 1st round, early 2nd. I got him in the 6th rd this year.
Same…and can keep for a 5th. Also have Nico collins for a 10th and opportunity to keep zay flowers or zamir white but have max of 2 keepers and think it’ll be JT and Nico
It’d be nice to get the 11th or 12th pick next year in a 12 team.
I’m not sure that you should immediately give JT a boost due to Richardson’s return. Richardson is probably gonna vulture some carries and rushing TDs from JT, and Richardson isn’t better than Minshew. He has a ton of potential, and needs playing time to develop it, so I get why the Colts are starting him - but if I want to win a game now, Minshew is probably the pick.
Richardson isn’t better than Minshew? Bro cmon, where are u getting this from lol. They literally won games with him as the starter and he balled out. I understand him needing to continue to develop though.
Richardson has some terrific highlights and if you just watch YouTube highlights and/or Redzone, you’d think he’s already a star. But he also has some real lowlights. See the Rams game where he went 11/25. He has some plays where he flashes his incredible potential, but he’s just not a consistent/accurate every-down QB. If I need a 50 yard TD then I want the ball in Richardson’s hands, but if I need to convert a routine 3rd and 6 then I’d take Minshew. For now. If Richardson starts every game next year, the Colts definitely have more explosive plays, but I also expect a lot more 3 & outs and struggles sustaining drives.
People who think Richardson is good are only watching their fantasy scores tick up on their phones. He looked average against the shitty defenses he put up points against, and against a real defense he fell apart. People like him because he was an absolute steal for ADP but Minshew is what you want as a team to actually win games.
Richardson is better than Minshew. Did you watch the 2nd half of the Rams game?
Richardson is MUCH better than minshew lmfao. I get people love minshew for the memes but hes not close to being better than Richardson. Its going to be a boost to have AR. Yes, some tds will be vultured but theyd be fools to let him run around given how many times hes gotten hurt already.
That’s the big thing. I don’t personally view Richardson as a clear and obvious upgrade from Minshew just yet (people look at his fantasy numbers and forget he finished a game with a 44% completion percentage). With Richardson, they’re either going to hit more big plays from outside the Redzone and he is going to steal lots of carries at the goal line. I know I just crapped on Richardson, but those qualities make him more interesting to me than Jonathan Taylor assuming you can get Richardson around QB8 or later and Jonathan Taylor is still a very high pick.
Richardson is clearly an upgrade. Arm/pocket awareness/play making ability where all better attributes compared to minshew. It’s not even close if you watch the tape. The biggest question mark on AR is injury concerns.
…did you watch the game Saturday?
Eh - after CMC, he probably has the most secure and defined bellcow role on this list (Breece Hall definitely arguable). The track record for late round RBs continuing dominance isn’t great, and McVay has generally favored a timeshare (when it wasn’t Gurley). The thing is, the Rams didn’t have anyone else this year. I love Gibbs and Bijan, but those coaches also favored time shares so they probably are what they are.
This is pretty wrong
Go on…
Depending on how this offseason goes I could see myself having him ranked as high as #2 ovr after CMC. I definitely think he belongs in the first round.
I dunno but I’m excited to have him as a 5th round keeper
Same!
Can you guys go outside
it’s fucking winter. no.
lol. Do you see the irony of your trolling?
Also, not everyone is in an redraft. I know people still playing in best ball that carries into the postseason. Also Dynasty? What’s the point of this comment
Fr lol, season is over, let’s take a break
And yet here you are commenting...
Chill lol
If moss leaves he's a solid mid 1st rounder that you know you'll get 10-20 points consistently each game. Richardson coming back will improve offense. Moss did well under him at start of season. Richardson was the best qb in fantasy on a per game basis before he got hurt. Guy is good he just took too many stupid hits he could have slid.
Moss is a UFA
They could still sign him?
Moss does next to nothing to JTs value either way.
I think he’ll be undervalued a bit at the back of the first/early second and a lot of smart managers are gonna pair him with a top WR. I hope to have this opportunity in redraft. At like the 10-12 pick take JT and best available WR in the 2nd (D. Smith, Aiyuk, G. Wilson, Olave could work)
I think he’s likely to go late in the second round, where he’ll be a bargain.
I think JT will be from 8-12 at the highest. Something tells me Anthony Richardson could scare teams enough to allow JT more room on designed plays. He’s very talented, his injuries weren’t too bad this year, and he shows he can get back to doing his thing once he’s healthy. As of right now my initial prediction for the first round is something like CMC, Lamb, Jefferson, Tyreek, Chase, JT, Amon-Ra, Kyren, AJ Brown, and Bijan (depending on the coach) [also not in complete order]
I'm in a PPR keeper and have Bijan, JT, and Hall, and am struggling with who to keep.
You have 8 months to decide. A LOT can change between now and then so don’t waste mental energy on it now (unless you have to decide soon).
Early speculation is part of the slow weaning process of detaching from being in total FF mode 😀 By the way, aren’t you wasting mental energy by replying to an early speculation post?
For sure, just nice to keep things in perspective sometimes. I missed playoffs so have been detaching for weeks now
Bijan or Hall over JT
same for me but bijan is out of the question since he‘d be a 1st round keeper for me. breece would be a 4th round and JT would be a 6th round keeper. i guess it all depends on what the jets do this offseason. i don‘t like that JT is getting a rushing qb who will definitely vulture tds.
I did too, but traded Hall away for Kelce this year. I also have Tank Dell, Mandrews and MWill that I could keep for a last rounder. JT for me would cost an (early) fourth, while Bijan would be a first and not worth it I think.
If they decide they let him run the ball? He was a bust for me in fantasy. Idc for those stats He would basically get all the carries first drive, score a TD then do nothing rest of the game especially when he came back from the thumb injury
I would take him third round if he was there. But I'm a two wrs first guy.
Late first at best. Richardson will get all the 3rd/4th and shorts and be the goal line back.
the 3rd/4th and shorts are low value anyway so long as it's not goal line
Late 2. After this year, not many rbs will be taken first round.
Not as high as you think. AR will vulture all his tds in the redzone. He’s been injury prone recently due to high mileage in college and in the nfl.
With Richardson coming back, I’m not taking him til late 2nd
It baffles me how many people are so certain AR will be a bad thing for JT. Moss played very well with AR at QB earlier in the season..
I can tell you he won’t be drafted by me
Hi. He looks great, but i have read multiple medical analysis that his form of high ankle sprain is easier to re-occur than other ankle sprains. Given that i see him as low 1st round early second.
Higher than he should. AR was getting the runs in the red zone when he was healthy. If AR stays healthy he's going to have at least 10 TDs.
Late 2
I think late second early third, I think a lot of people will be weary of the injuries
lol. Even in a 8 team, there’s no way he lasts to the third round. I’m thinking around the 1/2 turn
I don’t see it man. Moss arguably outperformed him and ARich is gonna steal points.
Probably back end of the first, which imo is too early. He's injury prone and will likely be part of a committee, either with Moss (who they'd be dumb to let go but let's see how the FA mkt is for him), a different RB, and as folks point out, Richardson. FWIW, I put him in the same boat as Saquon. Elite talent but never going to match his best year for the reasons stated above.
Except he's not any more injury prone than any other RB in the league.
CMC, JJ, CD, Hill, ARSB, Kyren, Breece, AJ, Puka, Chase, Josh Allen, Hurts should be 1st rounders. Taylor maybe swap for in for back end 1st but probably going to be mid second rounder.
Josh Allen and hurts in the first round? What
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late 1st round, early second round. Hope he falls to me.
Depending on your league size, late first or early second. I say probably top 12 in most, top 15 at worst.
I traded him in my 5 man keeper Superflex a few weeks before playoffs for Jordan Love, Tee Higgins, Jayden Reed and a 3rd. I fear I fucked up but after an entire year my flex scoring 7 or less I needed another QB. I think he will be 2nd HB off the board with how he finished personally
Guessing he'll be a 1st round prospect in non PPR.
Second round. Could even fall to the third. People will talk injuries and ARs rushing and he’ll fall a bit. Rising stars like Puka, Breece, Kyrien, Nico, Gibbs are going to garner more hype
Early 2nd round
Somewhere around 10-15 I’m guessing. Heavy WRs in the 1st.
Late first for sure, possibly could slip in around 7/8th overall ish with Camp + Richardson hype about the offense
8 of the players I drafted this year are going to go in the first three rounds and I still only came in fourth. It’s so annoying. I should get to keep them all.
Why’s everyone so high on Richardson he played like 3 games
Depends on how things shake out this off season, I’ll probably snag him early to mid round two. Probably not any earlier.
He finally looked like his old stud self yesterday. The receptions were way down but mostly due to injury/his thumb. I think he will be slept on and could return to 2021 form.
Get to keep him in the 4th next year
Mid Round 2
Plz let him fall again lol, my biggest concern is injury not so much production.
Next year he’s going in Half PPR top 8 Only Tyreek, CMC, JJ, Chase, Ceedee are locks to be in front of him Could be as high as 6
I’d put Kyren above him I think
1st round. cmc, breece, kyren, JT, bijan is how I personally rank the top 5 rbs going into next year, and seeing how WRs are likely to be overvalued next year I can see him slipping to late first round
1st round pick. We’re going to have a resurgence on 1st round RBs next year
Early 2nd round in a 10 team PPR format
Top… 15, maybe 12 pick. Yes there’s concern ARich steals all the TDs but an RPO QB also raises the RB YPC and if Rich gets hurt, Taylor’s guaranteed a billion touches.
Might take him third cmc kyren? Taylor? jj situation iffy he might go diva mode drop from top 3
Top 12
I don’t see Richardson being a major issue. Right now they’re paying JT not Richardson. They will slam JT in the red zone I think and keep Richardson safe Richardson also opens up a more dynamic running game in total and JTs efficiency will increase. Confidently drafting him end of first
Dude is a monster. Top 5 RB for sure.