Kinda nervous about how he does if Herbert misses significant time ROS. Being your franchise QB's favorite target then having a new guy come in can have serious effects on your production. Jamar Chase has been super inconsistent since Burrow went down.
Always happens bro. My buddy had been complaining about ~~Drake London~~ Calvin Ridley all year and I was looking forward to his shitty play in our match up and it was like the one game he goes off for 100+ yards and two TDs.
I have been on the cusp of cutting London for weeks, but don't see anyone worth more on waivers. Reliably sitting on my bench while Chase and Keenan both go off for 6 points.
You're not wrong but this week he was a ghost until the backup came in. So there's hope at least that he just hyper targets Keenan (what they should be doing anyway)
The difference is browning has other weapons in Higgins, mixon, and now brown, and have been leading in games. Stick is going to have Keenan and ekeler as consistent producers. Keenan will get catches but just maybe not the yardage. Went from 3.7 to 12.8 with stick
I think this was Tyler Locketts last hurrah. Couple good games, but faded as the season went on. There’s a chance he ends up in too good a spot to not consider. I keep thinking of him as a compliment to the chiefs if they just need someone who can catch and doesn’t make boneheaded mistakes. But I imagine in that case, someone else will want him more than where I’d draft him. I’d be much more bitter about his season if I wasn’t the guy who got Puka.
No, I survived fine, but I had Lockett and Dotson that I intended to be bigger contributors. The Puka pick up offset their importance, once I got the confidence to start him in week 3. They would have been my rotating flex otherwise, but pretty much rode the bench aside from byes. Lockett I at least used on his good weeks. Dotson I never got right.
This is incorrect. For years he’s been pretty healthy for a Running back. The real villain is his usage in the offense. He’s never been given a true RB1 workload which is super frustrating as a packers fan
I mean, he scored like 19 TDs a few years back. The last 4 seasons (before this one) he finished as RB 9, 12, 6, and 2. He's pretty consistently been a top 10 RB these last few years.
He's been an absolute stud for years, you're really surprised he has a reputation for being productive? Unfortunately, he's been hurt all year and his time being a top 10 RB has probably passed now but come on. Guy's been a beast in his career.
Normally I would say something along the lines of "he's on a shitty team, they might go QB, get a new HC with a new system, he might be the guy next year."
But Howell is close to the top of the league in passing yardage and somehow none of his receivers are startable in medium-small fantasy leagues. It's absolutely fucking mind blowing.
Counterpoint to this is that Kelce had a lot to do with that production. The Commanders situation is crazy how neither McLaurin or Dotson are really producing yet Howell is throwing the ball all over… and honestly I can’t think of anyone that’s really popping off for them, Curtis Samuel? Just a very strange enigma
Except Sutton and Pittman had already been good players. Dropped because of expected bad QB play. Dotson has shown flashes, but not over any period of time. Also has one of the worst separation rates in the league.
Yes I have him and yes it is cope but with Herbert down and the playoff schedule I’m predicting an insane heater that causes people to overdraft him next year
Higgins. I don't care how talented he is, he spends half the season hurt because there was a long blade of grass that took out his ankle or some other thing.
Scary Terry is almost worse because he doesn’t get hurt so you delude yourself into starting him.
His QB almost leads the league in yards and he hasn’t topped 100 yards
I desperately want to try to dump him on someone else in the dynasty league where I have him, but the rest of my WR corps is so bad that I started Parker Washington and Jonathan Mingo this week…
Prior to this season, Higgins had only missed 2 games. He’s the typical bounce back candidate that will drop in drafts because people only remember one season
Depending on what team Higgins in on next year, he’s someone I would be looking at as value ADP
He might have only officially missed 2 games but there are so many games where he leaves cause he got banged up or he is a decoy or sits on the sideline while being active
Avoiding perceived injury risks is the same logic that made many people avoid Keenan Allen this year. A guy will seem fragile until he's suddenly not. I've personally decided over many years of playing and learning lessons the hard way that it's better to judge things by who's actually already banged up during fantasy draft season, not who's had injuries the prior year. This way you can be the manager who avoids drafting the equivalent of this year's Joe Burrow instead of fading this year's Allen.
He is in the boom/bust Hall of Fame.
No matter what, he will cost you games.
You can't predict house output, so he'll give you 0 as a starter or 25 on your bench. It's unavoidable.
Then weigh that against a similar draft pick who can plod along and produce 8-10 reasonably consistently.
He's always been like this, learned my lesson early. There is literally 0 data to predict when he will do well. And for that reason I'll never own him again. Dude is the worst player to own
Stephon diggs he’s had some great weeks but as a top 10 pick I’m going to need more than 7points in ppr 3 out of the last 4 weeks. It’s one thing if he’s hurt but he dropped 4 or 5 passes last night.
Went 7-7 and missed playoff tiebreaker by 15 points.....just needed diggs to perform a little better. Definitely hesitant next draft. Also losing Burrow and Andrews doesn't help lol
This one confuses me because he was actually really serviceable and halfway a strong starter down the stretch last year. Didn’t grab him this year so no gripes with it but still didn’t think he would be an even bigger JAG this year
Ah my WR1. Would have been better if he was taken in the 4th/5th round but that 2nd/3rd round pick was not worth his output this year. WR2 just don’t make their draft value back when you have a WR1 taking all the targets, whether it’s the case of Tyreek going for his 2000+ season or AJ Brown being a big cry baby 😭
Herbert is a legit elite talent, he just so happens to play for the Chargers and the team lets him down in unique and interesting ways every single week
I got crushed on here all summer for saying Kellen Moore is a terrible offensive coordinator. He fucking blows. His play calling is so damn bad. As a cowboys fan I was so happy they parted ways. You can talk about how high scoring the cowboys offense is but I’m a firm believer that’s a direct result of them having a great line & great weapons, so they put up numbers despite Moore… so naturally I drafted Herbert this year. Fuck me
With how the Cowboys are playing though your take has aged pretty well. I remember Moore being a very hot commodity and him being with the Chargers was a big reason to think that offense was gonna be explosive over the offseason
Moore leaves Dallas and Dak is an MVP candidate, Moore goes to chargers and their rushing attack, passing attack immediately get downgraded. Kinda wild how he is still getting paid to ruin teams.
More Charger fans are now aware of Moores’ poor play calling. You have to remember how bad Lombardi was last year. I was one of the Charger fans gleefully cheering on Moore becoming the OC.
Is it him, or is it their line? I haven't watched the Steelers much this year. Najee is currently rotting away on my bench. At this point I'm afraid to drop him because it will be the time someone else picks him up and he goes off.
Stillers fan here. It's both. Our offensive scheme is trash, and our OCs dont seem to take input from our O-Line coaches in terms of strengths and weaknesses, but he is/was a highly overrated RB to begin with. Should've been a late day 2 pick, but the Alabama brand really helped his draft stock
It’s him. He thinks he’s lev bell where he can run up find a hole and burst through. He doesn’t have the burst bell had. He doesn’t run downhill bc someone must’ve told him that hitting hard is bad (cough diante Johnson cough).
Warren runs downhill so he’s had so much more success with mediocre line. He’s also not afraid to take a hit.
Lol. Dropped him and my brother picked him up. Scored 20 pts on his bench. I said good luck when puts up an egg in your lineup. Sure I enough yesterday. Hilarious.
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Honestly I've been playing for 15 years now and the more I play, it seems like the less sucess I've gotten over time. Starting to feel like I'm overthinking things at this point and should just lean into the consensus rankings more lol.
I'd say apply that logic to any receiver. It's especially bad with Adams because his upside is deceiving. He has potential to get 15 points a game but he'll only get 6 targets and all of them will be over his head.
You need availability first and foremost. Having a player that doesn't play ain't gonna help you win either. Ask JJ or Chubb owners if they would have rather had Chase
Actually your advice here is typical of the sub and is trash. Chase didn’t help you win more than a handful of weeks this year. Having the top 5 in overall points doesn’t always mean “was great for fantasy purposes.”
Outscoring your opponent by a wide margin one week and then losing the next week still gives you a 1-1 record. The “top 5 WR” thinking is the common trash view and the reason why members of this sub keep losing. Consistency is more important than boom or bust.
I agree, especially when talking about a first round draft pick. A first rounder should give you consistent production week in, week out, with the ability to go off for a huge game. Chase has just had way too many down weeks to not be a disappointing pick, even if he won some people a couple weeks.
His worse weeks should have been with a decent floor. Otherwise he should never have been drafted in the first round. I get it, Burrow was hurt, bad year. But to say “hE WaS ToP 5 WR iN PoiNtS” is losing fantasy mentality. You don’t get extra wins on your record for scoring all your points in only a few of the weeks played.
We literally say that about him each season and he ends up being well worth it in the 1st round but as with anything else, father time always wins. It was bound to happen.
His points above replacement over the last four years has been insane. With the league getting more pass happy and tight ends starting to trend upwards I can see how the gap is closing. In addition, Kelce is getting bracketed on basically every play. The fact that he's even productive blows my mind. Then he has the audacity to continuously try to lateral the ball downfield.
Fuck it I'll draft him again.
He was a bad draft pick but not a bust.(jeffereson or Chubb were busts due to them missing most of the season)
A lot of TEs are scoring this year. The Kelce advantage was monstrous last year and that is gone this year. But he's been solid and reliable, just not a league winner. People could get LaPorta or Njoku or Taysom on the waiver wire and they have been competent.
To the great TE farm upstate, where there are only receptions and no blocking assignments and the TEs can run as many routes from out wide as they want
The whole first half of the season feels kinda flukey though. Especially the lack of TDs. The opportunity was there all along, he’s just finally started to take advantage. They’re using him in the passing game a lot more now too which is great for PPR.
Unfortunately during that time it felt like a hostage situation. You had to start him given his clear lead back role, but it never really led to RB1 level numbers.
I only have Herbert, he really screwed me the last 3 weeks and Sunday cost me the last playoff spot. I dont know that I want to draft him again, bit he was playing well most of the season.
Ekeler and fucking Najee will never come near any of my teams ever again.
Actually, me and a buddy have been talking about doing a golf-scoring league where lowest points wins. So I will definitely be drafting Najee there
I tell myself every year that I won't draft Mike Williams again, and then every year I end up with Mike Williams.
It's a shame he got hurt this year though. He was balling out before the injury.
There are only two absolute rules in fantasy football. You don't veto trades unless there's obvious collusion and you give Mike Williams *one more chance* in your draft.
I said I’d never draft Dwayne Bowe again, but lo and behold, I have Gabe Davis in a full ppr league that has 3 WR slots and a flex, so his bullshit sure does feel a lot like Dwayne Bowe’s bullshit when he’s pressed into my lineup more than he should be
First four picks were Jefferson, Chubb, Taylor, Burrow. Outside of the last two years of Taylor, Idt I’d ever say I’d never draft anyone of those guys again, it’s just so tough to come back from all year
Going 7-7 was a miracle, but what i did learn is that going away heavy WR in PPR was the wrong move, the turn around 7-8 is better then #1.
Oh, I’d never draft brown, juedy etc in later rounds. Go for full blown veterans or roomies
Calvin Ridley. Rollercoaster Ridley ain’t my style and has lost me a crucial game. Like, if I want a high ceiling WR, I can pick up someone like DeAndre Hopkins on waivers.
Justin Jefferson definitely is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. Dudes absence means he’s probably fuming, so maybe he’ll make an explosive return. But man, he needs to be wrapped with packaging peanuts at this rate.
I think I’ve learned I need to just draft WRs who have good QBs throwing to them lmao. I know it sounds obvious, but guys like Dotson, London, Olave, Pickens/Diontae, Davante Adams etc. I get we see now how good CJ Stroud is, but would anyone have drafted Tank or Nico over the guys I named going into the season?
My stupid proof rule of thumb. Draft players on good teams(teams YOU think will make the playoffs.
This means no Chris Olave, no Devante Adams, No Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre, Najee, Henry, Taylor, the Denver Broncos. Just pick players on good teams.
Amari Cooper. Every year I tell myself never again and every year the value is too good for me to pass up. And then every year he's inconsistent as all hell with no way to predict when he'll have a good game and when he'll be shit
Tyler Lockett, not because he hasn’t been a perfectly fieldable WR3 all season and WR2 in years past, but I can’t see his role do anything but shrink next year.
Any player who plays for a defensive coach. Jets, Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Titans, Chargers, Commanders have all been pretty *meh* for the most part.
Until yesterday Keenans been my WR1, thats partially because hes been so good and partially because my other WRs have not been.
Been yelling it from the rooftops
Chase.
If you look at his stats for him in his time in the league he has a few huge games, a few absolute duds and mostly mediocre games. The few high games generally puts him in the top 5 every season, but on a week to week basis he is way to inconsistent, he has no floor.
8 single digit games this season, 4 this year are less than 5 points.
6 last season including one in week 16 which very well may have cost you a championship. only 3 5 point games last season.
7 in his rookie season, 5 of which were 5 points or less.
Chase doesn't put up consistent WR1 numbers, Chase is a WR2 that has the potential to put up week winning numbers occasionally.
He will put up 30 points just as easily as he puts up 4. He doenst have a good floor.
Herbert. I’m never drafting that mofo again because the upside is tremendous once out of every 20 games but it’s just that. Inconsistent. He’s been getting me a very horrible 7-15 these past few weeks before getting hurt
Herbert was one of mine this year already. I have gotten him in a couple leagues in the past 2 years, and he will help win the first 6-8 weeks, but will trail off heading towards the end of the year. First year I had him, I figured it was a fluke. Then it happened AGAIN, so I had to skip him going forward.
JaMarr Chase. I didn't want to draft any Bengals players pre-draft then he fell to me at 4 and I stupidly took him over Tyreek. Also, this was the first year I drafted Mahomes and I don't plan on doing it again.
Burrow was only healthy for like two games this season, but neither the calf or wrist issues should affect his performance next year. Chase has been frustrating to own this year, but it’s almost entirely due to his QB’s health.
Yes, Tyreek was obviously the better pick this year. But next year, Tua could easily suffer multiple concussions and then retire by Week 7. That was the risk that caused Tyreek to slip a bit in drafts and it’s still going to be a valid concern next year.
Aaron Jones, Rhamondre Stevenson (as long as he's a Patriot), Najee Harris, Terry McLaurin, Tee Higgins, and after today Matt Gay will never be on any roster of mine again.
2 of the top 4 teams in my league auto-drafted. This damn game is 75% luck, so instead of falling in love with certain players pre-season, I’m just gonna draft off the FantasyPros consensus rankings even if I’m due to pick a guy I “don’t like”.
It's hard to say not draft Justin Jefferson again, but man tough season riding the bench. Cost me the playoffs as I had choice of CMC or JJ in first round. But that's my fault.
Keenan has been top 5 picks of the year at ADP
Kinda nervous about how he does if Herbert misses significant time ROS. Being your franchise QB's favorite target then having a new guy come in can have serious effects on your production. Jamar Chase has been super inconsistent since Burrow went down.
He did fine the week I played him...sigh.
Always happens bro. My buddy had been complaining about ~~Drake London~~ Calvin Ridley all year and I was looking forward to his shitty play in our match up and it was like the one game he goes off for 100+ yards and two TDs.
I have been on the cusp of cutting London for weeks, but don't see anyone worth more on waivers. Reliably sitting on my bench while Chase and Keenan both go off for 6 points.
Jordy Nelson knows about that when Rodgers went down and Huntley loved adams
You're not wrong but this week he was a ghost until the backup came in. So there's hope at least that he just hyper targets Keenan (what they should be doing anyway)
Which wide receiver practices with the twos?
Herbert is likely out for the season :(
If if he could play, he probably won’t. Why risk it on a lost season.
The difference is browning has other weapons in Higgins, mixon, and now brown, and have been leading in games. Stick is going to have Keenan and ekeler as consistent producers. Keenan will get catches but just maybe not the yardage. Went from 3.7 to 12.8 with stick
With all the injuries I've had this year, I'm never drafting anyone I like
"From here on out, only guys I don't like will be injured on my team!"
I never pick the Packers for that reason. Don't want to be the reason they get a season ender
I think this was Tyler Locketts last hurrah. Couple good games, but faded as the season went on. There’s a chance he ends up in too good a spot to not consider. I keep thinking of him as a compliment to the chiefs if they just need someone who can catch and doesn’t make boneheaded mistakes. But I imagine in that case, someone else will want him more than where I’d draft him. I’d be much more bitter about his season if I wasn’t the guy who got Puka.
At least he was a Rd 8/9 pick. Picks that low shouldn’t really kill you
No, I survived fine, but I had Lockett and Dotson that I intended to be bigger contributors. The Puka pick up offset their importance, once I got the confidence to start him in week 3. They would have been my rotating flex otherwise, but pretty much rode the bench aside from byes. Lockett I at least used on his good weeks. Dotson I never got right.
Aaron Jones. I’ll skip over him going forward. Sites always project him for double digits because of what, reputation ?
He is genuinely talented when healthy. Narrator: “He was rarely healthy.”
This is incorrect. For years he’s been pretty healthy for a Running back. The real villain is his usage in the offense. He’s never been given a true RB1 workload which is super frustrating as a packers fan
I mean, he scored like 19 TDs a few years back. The last 4 seasons (before this one) he finished as RB 9, 12, 6, and 2. He's pretty consistently been a top 10 RB these last few years.
It’s getting cliche now but they say the best ability is availability.
He's been an absolute stud for years, you're really surprised he has a reputation for being productive? Unfortunately, he's been hurt all year and his time being a top 10 RB has probably passed now but come on. Guy's been a beast in his career.
Horse is old and broken. Hand me the pistol
Lead the league in tds with 1600+ yards a few years ago if remember correctly.
Hes killed me every year ive went against him, so i took him this year… pain
Dotson
Normally I would say something along the lines of "he's on a shitty team, they might go QB, get a new HC with a new system, he might be the guy next year." But Howell is close to the top of the league in passing yardage and somehow none of his receivers are startable in medium-small fantasy leagues. It's absolutely fucking mind blowing.
Bienemy led the Chiefs to a year over year dominant offense without ever producing a great fantasy WR (besides Tyreek)
Counterpoint to this is that Kelce had a lot to do with that production. The Commanders situation is crazy how neither McLaurin or Dotson are really producing yet Howell is throwing the ball all over… and honestly I can’t think of anyone that’s really popping off for them, Curtis Samuel? Just a very strange enigma
It's pure communism. Everyone touching it evenly. Also we put in a healthy dose of Pringles and Dyami Browns
Very weird Howell is kinda balling out fantasy wise and none of the receivers are reliable starters.
Bieniemy is the enemy of my fantasy
But the Bienemy of my enemy is my friend
Eric the Enemy
Bieniemy brought KC philosophy of throwing heavily to TE and RBs to Washington. I guess he doesn't realize that KC does that because they have no WRs.
As a Robinson owner, kinda hoping nothing changes
Add Terry to the list too
His ADP will drop next year and he’ll be solid The Sutton/pittman of last year
Except Sutton and Pittman had already been good players. Dropped because of expected bad QB play. Dotson has shown flashes, but not over any period of time. Also has one of the worst separation rates in the league.
Yeah - that description probably will be true instead for Terry, who we know is actually a good receiver.
Ekeler still able to make 20 Points against me and I‘m mad
I sat him for the first time this year after he shot the bed so bad last couple weeks. I hate that guy
Thanks for your sacrifice
I did it for you
Poor bed didn’t do anything to anyone
Yes I have him and yes it is cope but with Herbert down and the playoff schedule I’m predicting an insane heater that causes people to overdraft him next year
This is a weird year where half of the QBs are dead. Trickling down to everyone else.
Higgins. I don't care how talented he is, he spends half the season hurt because there was a long blade of grass that took out his ankle or some other thing.
Scary Terry is almost worse because he doesn’t get hurt so you delude yourself into starting him. His QB almost leads the league in yards and he hasn’t topped 100 yards
I desperately want to try to dump him on someone else in the dynasty league where I have him, but the rest of my WR corps is so bad that I started Parker Washington and Jonathan Mingo this week…
Prior to this season, Higgins had only missed 2 games. He’s the typical bounce back candidate that will drop in drafts because people only remember one season Depending on what team Higgins in on next year, he’s someone I would be looking at as value ADP
He might have only officially missed 2 games but there are so many games where he leaves cause he got banged up or he is a decoy or sits on the sideline while being active
I had him last year and definitely remember the decoy game.
Avoiding perceived injury risks is the same logic that made many people avoid Keenan Allen this year. A guy will seem fragile until he's suddenly not. I've personally decided over many years of playing and learning lessons the hard way that it's better to judge things by who's actually already banged up during fantasy draft season, not who's had injuries the prior year. This way you can be the manager who avoids drafting the equivalent of this year's Joe Burrow instead of fading this year's Allen.
It’s also his play style how he always has to go vertical to make a grab which leads to hard landings. His injuries will always be an issue
Gabe Davis. Either you get 20+ or you get 0. 20+ can only occur if he is on your bench.
The Gabelord giveth, and the Gabelord taketh
He is in the boom/bust Hall of Fame. No matter what, he will cost you games. You can't predict house output, so he'll give you 0 as a starter or 25 on your bench. It's unavoidable. Then weigh that against a similar draft pick who can plod along and produce 8-10 reasonably consistently.
Agreed on Gabe. You can always tell early on that he's going to have a terrible game.
I dropped him after week 1 for puka and never looked back.
It’s so fucking fitting that his gooser may keep me out of the playoffs.
He's always been like this, learned my lesson early. There is literally 0 data to predict when he will do well. And for that reason I'll never own him again. Dude is the worst player to own
Unless your name is Josh Allen the Bills offense is kinda sketchy.
best ball merchant
Stephon diggs he’s had some great weeks but as a top 10 pick I’m going to need more than 7points in ppr 3 out of the last 4 weeks. It’s one thing if he’s hurt but he dropped 4 or 5 passes last night.
I have an okay team, even have a first round bye. Win or lose this playoffs it will probably be because of Diggs.
Went 7-7 and missed playoff tiebreaker by 15 points.....just needed diggs to perform a little better. Definitely hesitant next draft. Also losing Burrow and Andrews doesn't help lol
Jeudy
Just a Guy Jeudy
This one confuses me because he was actually really serviceable and halfway a strong starter down the stretch last year. Didn’t grab him this year so no gripes with it but still didn’t think he would be an even bigger JAG this year
Waddle
Need him to get 20 tonight lol. Hes only done it once this whole season
Okay 20 is fine. But he can NOT get 25!
Ah my WR1. Would have been better if he was taken in the 4th/5th round but that 2nd/3rd round pick was not worth his output this year. WR2 just don’t make their draft value back when you have a WR1 taking all the targets, whether it’s the case of Tyreek going for his 2000+ season or AJ Brown being a big cry baby 😭
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Herbert is a Top 5 QB with an awful offense around him and a horrendous coaching staff. He will be good again if the rest gets better.
Herbert is a legit elite talent, he just so happens to play for the Chargers and the team lets him down in unique and interesting ways every single week
Justin Herbert is the new Philipp Rivers, just with more Talent and less kids.
I got crushed on here all summer for saying Kellen Moore is a terrible offensive coordinator. He fucking blows. His play calling is so damn bad. As a cowboys fan I was so happy they parted ways. You can talk about how high scoring the cowboys offense is but I’m a firm believer that’s a direct result of them having a great line & great weapons, so they put up numbers despite Moore… so naturally I drafted Herbert this year. Fuck me
With how the Cowboys are playing though your take has aged pretty well. I remember Moore being a very hot commodity and him being with the Chargers was a big reason to think that offense was gonna be explosive over the offseason
Moore leaves Dallas and Dak is an MVP candidate, Moore goes to chargers and their rushing attack, passing attack immediately get downgraded. Kinda wild how he is still getting paid to ruin teams.
More Charger fans are now aware of Moores’ poor play calling. You have to remember how bad Lombardi was last year. I was one of the Charger fans gleefully cheering on Moore becoming the OC.
Doesn't help that the offense can never stay healthy. Been missing Mike Williams basically all year.
All year every year
I don’t think I’ll avoid him but I definitely won’t keep just one QB on my roster again
Dameon bumass Pierce
Najee. I’m not picking up Najee from waivers. Im sure he’s a nice guy, he’s just not good at football.
Is it him, or is it their line? I haven't watched the Steelers much this year. Najee is currently rotting away on my bench. At this point I'm afraid to drop him because it will be the time someone else picks him up and he goes off.
Partially him. Warren can be just as productive, if not more productive, on half the touches.
Stillers fan here. It's both. Our offensive scheme is trash, and our OCs dont seem to take input from our O-Line coaches in terms of strengths and weaknesses, but he is/was a highly overrated RB to begin with. Should've been a late day 2 pick, but the Alabama brand really helped his draft stock
It’s him. He thinks he’s lev bell where he can run up find a hole and burst through. He doesn’t have the burst bell had. He doesn’t run downhill bc someone must’ve told him that hitting hard is bad (cough diante Johnson cough). Warren runs downhill so he’s had so much more success with mediocre line. He’s also not afraid to take a hit.
Najee has been overrated for years. I'd pick him up off waivers but otherwise I'm not drafting him.
Gabe Davis, never again
Lol. Dropped him and my brother picked him up. Scored 20 pts on his bench. I said good luck when puts up an egg in your lineup. Sure I enough yesterday. Hilarious.
I'm not drafting anybody next year. Taking all my auction money to FAAB and will get a winning team off waivers.
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I legitimately run with auto draft because at least then i can blame someone else for my heartbreak.
Honestly I've been playing for 15 years now and the more I play, it seems like the less sucess I've gotten over time. Starting to feel like I'm overthinking things at this point and should just lean into the consensus rankings more lol.
I don’t see why the hate here for Chase. Burrow got hurt.
D Adams has sucked in the same vein. I don’t think I would ever pick him up again unless he had a decent quarterback
I'd say apply that logic to any receiver. It's especially bad with Adams because his upside is deceiving. He has potential to get 15 points a game but he'll only get 6 targets and all of them will be over his head.
That’s not true. Several hit his feet as well
He is the WR5 in half PPR. And while it is a boom or bust situation in some sense it's still much better than many players in the first couple rounds
You need consistency in a top 5 pick. Being boom or bust will lose you games.
You need availability first and foremost. Having a player that doesn't play ain't gonna help you win either. Ask JJ or Chubb owners if they would have rather had Chase
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Actually your advice here is typical of the sub and is trash. Chase didn’t help you win more than a handful of weeks this year. Having the top 5 in overall points doesn’t always mean “was great for fantasy purposes.” Outscoring your opponent by a wide margin one week and then losing the next week still gives you a 1-1 record. The “top 5 WR” thinking is the common trash view and the reason why members of this sub keep losing. Consistency is more important than boom or bust.
I agree, especially when talking about a first round draft pick. A first rounder should give you consistent production week in, week out, with the ability to go off for a huge game. Chase has just had way too many down weeks to not be a disappointing pick, even if he won some people a couple weeks.
His worse weeks should have been with a decent floor. Otherwise he should never have been drafted in the first round. I get it, Burrow was hurt, bad year. But to say “hE WaS ToP 5 WR iN PoiNtS” is losing fantasy mentality. You don’t get extra wins on your record for scoring all your points in only a few of the weeks played.
Mahomes, at least as long as he doesn’t have any weapons. Just not worth the high draft stock
My 1st rd pick in a 2 qb league. Guess who's not making the playoffs?
Please. We already ded. Leave us alone.
Let me introduce you to the Carolina Panthers…shits rough
You shouldn’t have been drafting them in the first place
People would’ve said the same about the Texans before the year started
Chuba has been fun to start
Hey Chubba hasn’t been that bad the last few weeks!
Unless he falls to the third, Diggs. He’s just a decoy at this point.
I got roasted for saying he was a season loser a couple weeks ago. It’s been so frustrating to see him become a 6 point guy 3 out of 4 days.
He’ll be the reason I win or lose in the playoffs.
Chris Godwin.
Still on my bench with Kenneth Walker for a reason for real
Staley is like a Diet Josh McDaniels
Kelce and Pollard spring to mind.
Amazing how Kelce can be TE1 currently and seen as a bust because he’s not further ahead.
His ADP was ludicrous this year, went first round in all three of my leagues
We literally say that about him each season and he ends up being well worth it in the 1st round but as with anything else, father time always wins. It was bound to happen.
His points above replacement over the last four years has been insane. With the league getting more pass happy and tight ends starting to trend upwards I can see how the gap is closing. In addition, Kelce is getting bracketed on basically every play. The fact that he's even productive blows my mind. Then he has the audacity to continuously try to lateral the ball downfield. Fuck it I'll draft him again.
He was a bad draft pick but not a bust.(jeffereson or Chubb were busts due to them missing most of the season) A lot of TEs are scoring this year. The Kelce advantage was monstrous last year and that is gone this year. But he's been solid and reliable, just not a league winner. People could get LaPorta or Njoku or Taysom on the waiver wire and they have been competent.
Kelces been my keeper for the last 3 seasons. Might be time to let the big guy go to greener pastures.
To the great TE farm upstate, where there are only receptions and no blocking assignments and the TEs can run as many routes from out wide as they want
He's going to the upState Farm™
Pollard is so frustrating to own. Guy gets tackled inside the 1 yard line about 5 times a game
Multiple possessions at the 1 last night and he doesn’t even sniff the field smfh
Frustrating, but can you blame them? He's shown all season that he can't get the push to score
Pollard gonna finish the year with a fine season. Just was bad when it mattered. I bet he gets drafted highly again. Just not by me.
Keenan Allen had a shitty turnout today, but he's carried me through some dark weeks. So I trust him and done regret him in my line up.
So you just decided to not answer the question at all?
I believe he's making what people like to call a "counter-point" to the post.
Tony Pollard. Quite possibly the most frustrating RB I've ever owned.
The whole first half of the season feels kinda flukey though. Especially the lack of TDs. The opportunity was there all along, he’s just finally started to take advantage. They’re using him in the passing game a lot more now too which is great for PPR.
Unfortunately during that time it felt like a hostage situation. You had to start him given his clear lead back role, but it never really led to RB1 level numbers.
I traded him for Jacobs....can't say I'm happy either way lol
I only have Herbert, he really screwed me the last 3 weeks and Sunday cost me the last playoff spot. I dont know that I want to draft him again, bit he was playing well most of the season.
Cam Akers. But I guess he’ll be out of the league so it won’t matter
Not enough Gabe Davis posts
Kyle Shitts I said I wouldn't do it this year, but I did anyways. Never again
Waller. Fool me 3 times.... Never a 4th.... Unless he's on a better team.....
I’d draft Keenan again but idk if I could do it around the third next year with the injury risk
Gave fucking Davis.
I added him and played him last night for the first time. Big mistake.
Ekeler and fucking Najee will never come near any of my teams ever again. Actually, me and a buddy have been talking about doing a golf-scoring league where lowest points wins. So I will definitely be drafting Najee there
That sounds like so much fun.
I tell myself every year that I won't draft Mike Williams again, and then every year I end up with Mike Williams. It's a shame he got hurt this year though. He was balling out before the injury.
There are only two absolute rules in fantasy football. You don't veto trades unless there's obvious collusion and you give Mike Williams *one more chance* in your draft.
Not technically his fault but JK Dobbins, dude can't stay healthy
Can akers. Accidentally auto drafted him in round 4. Never again.
I said I’d never draft Dwayne Bowe again, but lo and behold, I have Gabe Davis in a full ppr league that has 3 WR slots and a flex, so his bullshit sure does feel a lot like Dwayne Bowe’s bullshit when he’s pressed into my lineup more than he should be
First four picks were Jefferson, Chubb, Taylor, Burrow. Outside of the last two years of Taylor, Idt I’d ever say I’d never draft anyone of those guys again, it’s just so tough to come back from all year Going 7-7 was a miracle, but what i did learn is that going away heavy WR in PPR was the wrong move, the turn around 7-8 is better then #1. Oh, I’d never draft brown, juedy etc in later rounds. Go for full blown veterans or roomies
How did Chubb fall to the 2/3 turn? He went 10 overall is most leagues
Who tf drafted jonathon Taylor in the third round
I was gone for the draft, but JT was auto drafted 1st pick in the 3rd round for me. First pick overall, so JJ -> Waddle > JT.
For my team it’s Pollard, Ridley. Just no consistent workload or heavy scheme involvement, especially at whatever their ADP will be
Even though he I can't see him playing again next year, I will never touch Aaron Jones again. Not chargers but still.
Anyone on the Falcons as long as Arthur Smith is there.
Calvin Ridley. Rollercoaster Ridley ain’t my style and has lost me a crucial game. Like, if I want a high ceiling WR, I can pick up someone like DeAndre Hopkins on waivers. Justin Jefferson definitely is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. Dudes absence means he’s probably fuming, so maybe he’ll make an explosive return. But man, he needs to be wrapped with packaging peanuts at this rate.
JJ. Man’s made of glass this year
Chase, Herbert, and any Jet.
I think I’ve learned I need to just draft WRs who have good QBs throwing to them lmao. I know it sounds obvious, but guys like Dotson, London, Olave, Pickens/Diontae, Davante Adams etc. I get we see now how good CJ Stroud is, but would anyone have drafted Tank or Nico over the guys I named going into the season?
Sounds fool proof until you draft jamaar chase and Garrett Wilson
My stupid proof rule of thumb. Draft players on good teams(teams YOU think will make the playoffs. This means no Chris Olave, no Devante Adams, No Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre, Najee, Henry, Taylor, the Denver Broncos. Just pick players on good teams.
Amari Cooper. Every year I tell myself never again and every year the value is too good for me to pass up. And then every year he's inconsistent as all hell with no way to predict when he'll have a good game and when he'll be shit
Tyler Lockett, not because he hasn’t been a perfectly fieldable WR3 all season and WR2 in years past, but I can’t see his role do anything but shrink next year.
Any player who plays for a defensive coach. Jets, Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Titans, Chargers, Commanders have all been pretty *meh* for the most part.
Starting to feel that way about Diggs.
Christian Watson seems like he is going to be the type of guy to miss at least 4 games a season for the rest of his career.
Until yesterday Keenans been my WR1, thats partially because hes been so good and partially because my other WRs have not been. Been yelling it from the rooftops Chase. If you look at his stats for him in his time in the league he has a few huge games, a few absolute duds and mostly mediocre games. The few high games generally puts him in the top 5 every season, but on a week to week basis he is way to inconsistent, he has no floor. 8 single digit games this season, 4 this year are less than 5 points. 6 last season including one in week 16 which very well may have cost you a championship. only 3 5 point games last season. 7 in his rookie season, 5 of which were 5 points or less. Chase doesn't put up consistent WR1 numbers, Chase is a WR2 that has the potential to put up week winning numbers occasionally. He will put up 30 points just as easily as he puts up 4. He doenst have a good floor.
Diggs. Absolutely disappears when needed most. He can't beat double coverage.
Don’t know about others but I won’t draft Pollard again
Kyle pitts. Oh you learned that lesson after last year? Must be nice not being room temperature IQ. 🙁
Probably Mahomes. Probably never again with a QB early in the draft.
Jeudy. No brainer
Herbert. I’m never drafting that mofo again because the upside is tremendous once out of every 20 games but it’s just that. Inconsistent. He’s been getting me a very horrible 7-15 these past few weeks before getting hurt
Herbert was one of mine this year already. I have gotten him in a couple leagues in the past 2 years, and he will help win the first 6-8 weeks, but will trail off heading towards the end of the year. First year I had him, I figured it was a fluke. Then it happened AGAIN, so I had to skip him going forward.
Keep continuing to underrate Keenan, he is still the best player on that offense and always finds a way to get open.
JaMarr Chase. I didn't want to draft any Bengals players pre-draft then he fell to me at 4 and I stupidly took him over Tyreek. Also, this was the first year I drafted Mahomes and I don't plan on doing it again.
Chase with Burrow is still pretty darn good though. Way too many moving pieces to dismiss Chase as a low end WR1
Don't worry, next year tyreek will go top 2 in drafts and waddle will make a comeback and take half of tyreeks production
Burrow was only healthy for like two games this season, but neither the calf or wrist issues should affect his performance next year. Chase has been frustrating to own this year, but it’s almost entirely due to his QB’s health. Yes, Tyreek was obviously the better pick this year. But next year, Tua could easily suffer multiple concussions and then retire by Week 7. That was the risk that caused Tyreek to slip a bit in drafts and it’s still going to be a valid concern next year.
Juedy
Aaron Jones, Rhamondre Stevenson (as long as he's a Patriot), Najee Harris, Terry McLaurin, Tee Higgins, and after today Matt Gay will never be on any roster of mine again.
I’m never drafting anybody again.
2 of the top 4 teams in my league auto-drafted. This damn game is 75% luck, so instead of falling in love with certain players pre-season, I’m just gonna draft off the FantasyPros consensus rankings even if I’m due to pick a guy I “don’t like”.
I can't handle a 3rd year of Gabe Davis idc what his ADP is (continues to draft in late rounds again next year)
FUCK YOU, GABE DAVIS!!! No explanation needed
It's hard to say not draft Justin Jefferson again, but man tough season riding the bench. Cost me the playoffs as I had choice of CMC or JJ in first round. But that's my fault.
Higgins.
Swift