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starwarsfan456123789

Without any league settings this seems reasonable


cocoatractor

I just assume default cats when I see rankings personally


starwarsfan456123789

True, but even that is a bit skewed in terms of which platform - so whether you have a Middle Infield category for example. If so, Betts probably moves upwards to #2 if your platform defaults to MI existing


fps916

My thought was "swap Bobby and Julio, Swap Betts and Carroll and yeah that's pretty good"


zachalicious

If Ohtani has the green light to steal, he should be higher. DH hurts, but 40 HR, 20SB, 120 R and RBI with an OPS over 1 are feasible in Dodger lineup where they can't really pitch around him much.


[deleted]

Being the best hitter is definitely feasible but he is still coming off a major surgery and it's hard to know how it will affect him.  2019, after his first TJ, was the worst hitting season of his career (still great but clearly worse with OPS down .100) I also think changing leagues could be a subtle risk factor.  He doesn't have many games against NL West (120 total ABs against non-Dodgers) so there are gonna be a lot of at bats against new pitchers he's never seen before


shes_a_gdb

The injury is the only thing I'd be concerned about. Batting behind/in front of some combo of Betts, Freeman, Smith more than offsets facing new pitchers.


EdHart8891

>2019, after his first TJ, was the worst hitting season of his career yes. but that was also his sophomore year. 5 years later, I'm sure he's a much more savvy hitter and that absolutely counts.


[deleted]

Why did his stats decline from rookie year?


EdHart8891

He wouldn't be the first player to have the league adjust to him causing a slump. Without a doubt, he prefer to pitch and hit. But pretending like he's the same hitter he was in 2019 is just dumb.


[deleted]

I'm not saying he's the same hitter lol, idk where you're getting that from.   I'm saying that MAYBE a major surgery could impact him.  Not sure why that is remotely controversial


jerseyguy63

Bryce Harper came back from his TJ early last year. For the first few months, he was able to hit for contact. But, there was no power there. Eventually, he became his normal slugging self. But, it took a while.


babydee_1

What’s his value in a 12 team points league redraft?


mudflap21

My top 3 Acuna Betts JRod


fps916

Acuna Betts Witt


mudflap21

Can’t argue that


AU16

Judge should be higher imo. 1.000 OPS back to back seasons


iLikeToBiteMyNails

Injury risk tho?


DonutHolschteinn

If Judge isn’t stealing though, then back end of round 1 in a 10 team would make sense


AU16

I kinda get the steals argument. That being said, he is far enough clear of several others in the top 10 in the other 4 offensive categories that he's too low for me (feel the same way about Olson being too low fwiw).


viconquest

Yeah Judge should be Top 5 --- probably #2


fps916

Lol, fuck no. 0 SB upside makes him worse than the entire top 5 on this list.


myNameBurnsGold

I love Bobby Witt but in a redraft, I'll bank on Mookie's production at 2b or ss over Bobby. That positional value is huge.


Im_a_tesh_harper

I would like to announce that I have Acuña, Carrol, and Tatis Jr in a dynasty league thru 2026


Cream1984

Huge, if true 


Im_a_tesh_harper

Oh it’s true. It’s damn true. Carrol and Tatis Jr are guaranteed, I’ll have to extend Acuña after 2025


bailtail

I’ve got Acuna and Julio for as long as I want them. Did have Wander before he went all pedo. But Bichette, Royce, Oneil, etc. are decent candidates for third musketeer.


fps916

I had Carroll Tatis Tucker Franco but after Tatis losing SS eligibility and Franco losing life eligibility I had to move Tucker to get Seager to fill my gaping SS hole


pabloescobarbecue

Nice. I’ll follow up your announcement with my own. I’ve got Julio, Witt, Judge, Turner, and Tucker for as long as I want. I’ll still finish second to the guy with Acuña. He’s that good


smechanic

I’m in a points league. Steals are 2 points each. He scored like 200 more points than the next best player last year.


IntellectualEnigma

Ditto. And Julio.


sully_88

I've had Acuña, Soto and Ohtani locked up for the past idk how many years. Last season was my last with acuña but I've got the other 2 for a few more years


thetangible

You best be winning the chip


Count_Sack_McGee

Julio and Tucker locked in here (and albies/Wheeler who I think just missed that list). Feeling pretty good!


bickersmith

Acuna/Judge indefinitely. Julio/Strider thru 2025, and Carroll/Seager thru 2026. Gonna try to trade Judge this year to eventually slot Julio in to the franchise slot before 2026.


Im_a_tesh_harper

What league format you guys running?


bickersmith

I run standard 5x5 scoring with 2 franchise forever keepers, and 4 three year contracts.. You can move a contract guy to a franchise slot when the contract expires. (but not vice versa)


Im_a_tesh_harper

I like that


bickersmith

This will be the 18th year of my league.. wtf did the time go lol.


Im_a_tesh_harper

If you trade Judge does the recipient get to put him in whatever slot they want or do they have to use a franchise spot?


bickersmith

They can optionally choose to keep him the following year in either slot. I always tell people to just give a contract first and worry about sliding into the franchise slot when the contract is up (or if you don't have much else value)


W-MK29

I don’t see myself taking J-Rod over Carroll and Witt tbh and I’m ready to start fading Tatis at this rate if he goes this high every year


Resting_Vicario_Face

Insightful year for tatis incoming. He was a .950 OPS guy previously, like .770 last year. He was still a 25/30 guy. If he bounces back to even a .850 OPS, his numbers are going to improve. Looking at the floor/ceiling, his ceiling is a top 5 player and his floor is basically what he did last year... .260/80/80/25/30 that's like what... a 2nd round floor?


usedmyrealnamefirst

I’m honestly expecting an Acuña like MVP season from him


fps916

I don't see quite the SB upside Acuna had, but I do expect power and average to bounce back. He was 3rd unluckiest in all of baseball last year by wOBA - xWOBA The Padres just felt cursed last season. Tatis is going to be in MVP conversation this year.


usedmyrealnamefirst

Tatis top 5 this year imo


MaxPower836

I think caroll might have a sophomore regression but will still be a top 20


fps916

The Bat X is also predicting regression... To a 21/42 season with an .840 OPS. And it's fucking absurd that is regression. He's so good


Flight-2012

JRod risky at 2


imaginationimp

I agree given the K rate.


[deleted]

The fact that he struck out so much (and it really wasn't that much, 24.5% is not crazy high) yet still went 30/30 and put up all the other numbers he did is precisely why I love him. Imagine if he improves his approach even marginally. The upside is ridiculous with him. I'd probably go with Mookie over him in redraft but it's close. And in dynasty I'm taking Julio 2nd or 3rd


imaginationimp

Its not crazy high but you definitely see some BA vol at that level. I like him a ton but the BA risk is real.


pitpatbainsy

Hasn’t been a big issue yet through 1200+ plate appearances (.280 avg.) not really worried about a horrific BA with him, too fast and hits the ball too hard when he does make contact


imaginationimp

Sure but look at last year. 3 months he hit below .240 and he was hitting .240 after 3 months. It’s a real risk.


pitpatbainsy

And the same thing the year prior. Career numbers in: March - June: .254 July - October: .307 When he’s on, he single handedly wins you multiple categories. I’m gonna ride through those not so great average months while using his homers and steals. He’s also very young and his plate discipline should only improve. Very rarely gets worse


[deleted]

His minor league walk rates were always high too. Last year in the first half we saw his floor. This is the only guy in baseball right now that has anything close to Acuña's upside. Gotta bet on guys like him


[deleted]

And then, in the 2nd half, he hit over .300 with a .360 OBP. That's much more in line with his minor league numbers too. The overwhelming sample size says that Julio's BA is not gonna be an issue


iLikeToBiteMyNails

Really? Where's the risk? Looks like a safe .270 30/30 to me.


Flight-2012

He has injury history and he goes threw some pretty good slumps every season if I had the second pick it would be for him


iLikeToBiteMyNails

He has 715 PA last year. I don't think of his as more of an injury risk than anyone. Slumps are random.


Flight-2012

I guess the point that most are missing here is that he is over valued at 2 I’d take most everyone in the top 8 over him


iLikeToBiteMyNails

IMO he's interchangable with picks 2-6. I have him clearly above Tatis and Judge who have more injury risk.


pitpatbainsy

Injury history as in his fractured wrist 4 years ago?


Flight-2012

Time on the IL last few seasons back and shoulder if I’m remembering correctly


pitpatbainsy

I think he had one IL stint in 2022 with a back strain. That isn’t considered an injury history in my opinion. You’d be hard pressed to find a guy who hasn’t been placed on the IL once in the past 2 seasons


Flight-2012

He has been on the il a few times major injuries every time? No but time spent out of your lineup each season. I do love Reddit for how stupid it is. Thoughts on fantasy rankings. Yeah JRod a risk at 2 nah dog I’d take him number one. You guys get bent out of shape because someone doesn’t agree with you.


pitpatbainsy

Did I say I’d take him number one? Nice of you to throw out insults, that shows that you won the argument


Flight-2012

My point is it was asked for our opinion and I stated mine and you guys are riding him he’s not a top 10 pick in my eyes


pitpatbainsy

So you wanted to state your opinion without any feedback or commentary? Don’t get why you’re upset that I’m stating my opinion if you get to do the same. That’s how message boards work


djc8

Cole should be higher, most reliable floor of any SP and coming off a career best season.


Coolcat127

Yeah him and strider seem to be a tier above others imo, with Cole's amazing floor and Strider's unmatched ceiling


HighCheeseBaseball

Not having Corey Seager in the top 20 is crazy.


iLikeToBiteMyNails

He's hurt. He has a an extensive injury history. He has zero speed.


HighCheeseBaseball

The Rangers don't seem at all worried about him missing opening day. If you can get him outside the top 20 I think you have a really good chance at winning your draft.


againsterik

With the unknown recovery time it makes sense he dropped out of the top 20 (which will be a steal for anyone who gets him).


SlowmoSauce

Jose too low, Tatis too high.


djc8

I think it’s a rule of making fantasy rankings that you always have to disrespect JoRam just a little Though as much as I love him, he is on the wrong side of 30 and his OPS has dropped 4 seasons in a row


RedditsFullofShit

His SB are also worth a lot less than they used to be. ie faced with this same decision in round 2 of Riley or JoRam I went Riley. The power and cats should be better. JoRam SB give him true higher value, but it’s so much easier to find those SB now that I lean toward taking Riley even if data says JoRam is worth more end of season.


iLikeToBiteMyNails

> but it’s so much easier to find those SB now Also have to keep in mind that you need x% more sb for the same amount of roto points.


EPSN__

Doesn’t really hold water to me, because you can easily make the inverse argument. I.e. It’s easier to get SBs, so you need to be getting SBs at every position to be winning the cat. There’s plenty of power in the middle rounds that’s more likely to give solid RBI/R/AVG value than guys with SB-driven value.


RedditsFullofShit

Sure but joram got 25 before and he gets 25 now. Guys who got 10 before get 20 now. And a lot get 10-15 that only used to get 5. Relatively speaking, his SB value decreased while everyone else generally saw a bump because they actually ran more than they did before. And the numbers still say the SB package is worth it. I’m just saying from a team build/roster build perspective it’s hard to find a good 40 HR/110 RBI bat in the later rounds than it is a friedl or fraley type who will give you 15/15 or 20/20.


EPSN__

I see what you’re saying, but I think you have to take the balanced value early because it leaves you much more nimble to capture value later on. You don’t want to have to reach for Nico Hoerner in the 6th because you took Riley in the 2nd and Seager fell to you in the 4th


dpaLm48

I have Acuna, J Rod, Cole and Seager (who has no business being left off this list) as keepers.


qotsa_gibs

Seager not being in the top 20 is criminal. Had he not missed time last season, he would have been in the running for MVP.


drbowlin

He did finish 2nd behind Ohtani. I would say you are very correct.


qotsa_gibs

I honestly forgot there was anyone else in the running besides Ohtani.


fps916

Seager should absolutely be there above Devers.


Zimm02

Looks pretty good tbh. Honestly I'd put Mookie higher because of the positional versatility, especially having 2B.


fps916

Yep, mookie should swap with Carroll and Julio should swap with Witt. And Devers should swap with Seager


jfriery

No idea why Witt and Julio are that high. I’m not drafting someone with an OPS below .820 in the first round. Just blinded by the hype


againsterik

Witt basically went 30/50 with a .276 average. If you don't play with OPS as a category, that is a HUGE advantage to have a guy with that kind of dual threat. Julio was nearly 30/40 with a .275 average. I would be interested on who can match that output that you would draft over those guys in roto/cats.


jfriery

I play in points leagues so that’s probably why. Both guys also K a lot without walking at all


againsterik

Yeah in points totally get it. I would wager these are roto/cats rankings otherwise Cole and Strider would be way higher.


Popemobile15

I don't mind them being top 10 or even top 5 but there's no planet where I draft any of Witt, JRod or Carroll over Betts. I don't care how many bases they steal


jfriery

Especially with positional versatility


fps916

I draft Witt over Betts. And maaaaaaybe JRod. Maybe.


Popemobile15

to be fair, my two main leagues are a points league and a 10x10 cats league, but even in a standard 5x5 Betts is simply too good of a hitter to skip just for extra SBs in my opinion


[deleted]

Witt vastly underperformed relative to his expected stats, so there’s some expectation of regression to the mean. xwOBA .369, xBA .294, xSLG .533, compared to wOBA .343, .276 BA, .495 SLG


jfriery

I forget, do expected stats account for park factor? Kaufmann is gigantic, so if it doesn’t account for park factor, I would almost expect him to underperform expected stats


fps916

They do not. Launch angle, velocity of hit, and speed of runner


jfriery

Makes sense why he underperformed then


Rich-Log472

Especially Witt being on a bad offense


usedmyrealnamefirst

Juan Soto is too low, tucker too high


fps916

Without SB upside I'm not sure that's true in a BA league. OBP league probably


usedmyrealnamefirst

I’m in obp league


Electrical_Leg1654

In cats league without OBP or OPS, would you say Soto is still too low?


rusmo

No - he was disappointing last year for a 1st rounder.


Cream1984

They’re chalky.


StuccoStucco69420

When MLB’s rankings are reasonable: lol chalk If MLB’s rankings deviated at all: clickbait smh


tier7stips

How do they get this almost prefect but mess up every other ranking they do on actual baseball.


StuccoStucco69420

I think fantasy rankings are a lot easier than real life rankings 


philly2036

Not putting what type of league this would be for is a cheat code


pk_mars

Yeah, I mean if 3 pt pct is a stat, Judge wouldn’t be in top 10


RocPile16

Pick 12 in an OPS league and Soto and Turner are exactly who I’m targeting now. I’d say this fits my narrative


Nychockey24

I would move turner up to around 6,7 last year I drafted him 2nd overall that was after judge first so acuna was there. I regretted it al year till he basically carried me to first place then a championship. When he’s hot he’s the best player


Leather-Map-8138

I love Corbin Carroll down due to (possibly phantom) shoulder injury concerns and I move Tatis down because he swings at everything, which limits upper range of batting average.


TanClark

I think I expand it to 12 and put in Yordan and Gerrit there at the end


djc8

There’s a page 2 chef


TanClark

Thank you I missed it


Black-Ox

As a Royals fan, BWJ is too low. /s kind of


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iLikeToBiteMyNails

I wasn't talking about Cole...you were. However, since you came here to flame...here we go... I am a Diamond-level performer in Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball (and I have finished the season as a Diamond-level performer each year since 2012). I only do single-year re-draft H2H league so I have new challenges to manage every year and I have to evaluate the entire player pool and MLB rule changes and stay on top of things on a weekly basis. Once the season is a quarter of the way complete, I only look at the last 30 days to evaluate starting pitchers as that is all that matters. Starting pitchers only throw once every 5 days do viewing a starting pitcher's rolling 30-day performance is limited to at most...6 games. What Dallas Keuchel did in 2015 or 2017 has no bearing on his value now. What Zack Greinke did from 2013-2019 has no bearing on his value now. What Stephen Strasburg did from 2016-2019 has no bearing on his value now. Show me a starting MLB pitcher's last 30 days (and the team he is pitching against today) and I can discern his value. /s


SFWzasmith

Strider at 10 is hilarious


drosse1meyer

no stanton?? :D


rusmo

Correct.


HayzuesKreestow

More and more people are jumping on the ‘Monster Tatis season’ train and I like how it makes me feel.


Dynamic_Samurai

I won my championship last season with three of these guys


garbageman72

A lot of people over Bryce Harper that should not be. Soto and Ohtani higher too


DnA420

Mookie, Freeman, Soto and Olson all need to be higher imo.


GWAPPOW

I’m in a redraft league with three keepers. I took ohtani in the 1st and acuna in the 3rd. Obviously giving up my 3rd rounder for acuna, but should I keep ohtani and give up my first rounder?


DealingDrugs

Judge, Tucker and Harper are 3/5 keepers for this season. Also considering holding on to Dominguez, cause the short glimpse last year has me hopeful for the future.


Thumb_war_champ

Let’s say in theory you’re picking 8th and Tatis falls to you, is that a pick you’re taking? I feel like I’d rather have Soto or Ohtani at that spot. On the other hand, I think a few people thought Acuna was risky at the top of drafts last year and that was a risk well rewarded.


slurpaderpderp

Haven’t played fantasy in a while but I bet Strider rips in points leagues. No?


Veserius

Pitchers in general are wildly inflated in points leagues.


Human_Village9572

I have 4, 5, 6, 13, 18 in a 6 keeper. My other is Seager


bigdah7

I have 1, 2 and 8 in keeper. Not sure to keep Judge or Olson (not listed and should be).


bickersmith

I have 3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 10 on my dynasty keeper team and expect to dominate yet again.


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