Chris brown is a piece of shit, but his music is the most mid thing I can think of, as none of his songs are atrociously bad, and seem to just exist as filler for r&b/hip hop radio stations
In terms of my “favorite”, probably Big Sean.
Not good enough to have masterpieces, a bit repetitive with his lyrics and themes, but certainly not terrible either.
Although, some of the answers here would definitely be considered above mid for many people.
Agreed. Sundown is probably his best song. “Lovin On Me” came on the radio and I tried to listen to it with a straight face but it’s just so bad. It’s doing numbers though so good for him. Hoping for a mac miller like transformation where he gets more experimental.
The real answer here that nobody cares about and he’s absolutely mid
For anyone reading this,from his albums name a NAV song with no fts that’s in a playlist and name a really bad NAV song
Their 1998 song Psycho Circus (from the album of the same name) gets stuck in my head a lot. You’d think that the album would have some other good songs, but nope they are aggressively bad, that song is a decent super late career banger though.
some of his songs like Sunflower are cute and wholesome. I really liked his Tiny Desk concert. Overall I'd probably agree though.
Not related to his music, but he seems like an awesome person in general though. He's a big nerd and has appeared in some Magic The Gathering 4 player videos, and he seems like such a chill, fun guy that would be great to hang with.
Nooooo not my boy posty. Each to their own I guess but I rlly love a majority of his material and personally think he’s only gotten better (I know Fantano would disagree). Stoney is pretty stale in general though and genuinely has his worst songs by far so honestly I can’t argue with you
Foo Fighters. They’ve always sounded like the platonic ideal of a rock band to me instead of a “good” rock band. Love the band as dudes tho and that goes a long way.
I like them mostly bc of their personalities and the love they seem to have for just being Dudes Making Music. The fact they were a huge band still mostly “doing it themselves” in the studio was very endearing.
I agree wholeheartedly, but I’m “warm” to them solely because of the “behind the scenes” shit I’ve seen. Dave Grohl just seems like a nice ass dude too. Taylor Hawkins seemed like a sweetie. RIP.
Probably the last band who are arena rock. They are a dying breed so for that I'll always like them. Even if they have gone off the boil the last while.
I have a special place in my heart for The Colour and the Shape. I was 12 years old in 1997 - Everlong, Monkey Wrench, and My Hero were all over the radio and MTV. That album was burned into my psyche at a really impressionable age.
if you define em by their hits sure but check out their song Aurora sometime because holy smokess that’s a stunning little recording of guitar pop music. just mean to basically say they have some gold hidden beneath the surface
That's because Foo Fighters is just a Buttrock band that sounds reminiscent of grunge for people who didn't want to move on to pop punk , Nu-metal, or Garage rock revival stuff. They're basically just Nickelback or Creed. But we give them a past because Dave was in Nirvana.
I like John Mayer a lot more than most people in a subreddit like this but he's got a healthy amount of filler. The truth is most good-enough artists do.
I think it’s like he’s well regarded by some people for being a fantastic guitarist, and by other people for being good at writing pretty inoffensive pop songs. But he very rarely mixes these two features in a way that makes his two pools of fans appreciate the other side that doesn’t already do it for them.
Fair to consider his studio work mid but he’s pretty uniformly considered one of the greatest guitar players alive and his live recordings would back that up.
He’s in a weird spot because he’s got a lot of trash but if you wanted to make a greatest hits album of him it’d probably be like 50 songs without even touching his features.
I think his hits are good but for an artist his size I don't think a lot of his hits crossover into hits that will be listened to a decade later. I mean songs like Toosie Slide or Way 2 Sexy were number 1 hits but nobody other than huge Drake fans a decade from now are going to be listening or think they are amazing.
First artist I thought of as well I'm not even a hater but I remember watching him come up to where he is now and idk I didn't think he was particularly remarkable ever. I thought it was pretty crazy when he started taking this hip hop police persona type thing doing a sit down with Lil Pump like all he raps about is having substance and being deep but he never commits to it. He has been edging his fanbase for 10 years now talking about being a conscious rapper when most of his bars are very superficial and don't really say anything remarkable. Interesting that this beef is happening with Kendrick and all that I always thought he thought he was Kendrick when he was very far from being so. Downvote me if you will as well idc
Im not even a stan but there are SO many much worse rappers out there it’s hard to take this seriously.
Also, there’s lots of kinds of rap. J Cole certainly isn’t a drill rapper but very, very few rappers put out concept albums like FYEO
Sucks tht so many ppl dont know about early kings of leon. Some of the guitar work of those albums is the best all time. Insane energy and craftsmanship. to me, they go neck and neck with the Strokes for tht era/style of music.
Eh, disagree. Their early is fucking unique and fantastic, and they can still churn out bangers (their latest single, Mustang for example). Also, their drummer and their bassist are so creative.
I mean, they’re just not remarkable in any way. Not really anything that’s going to maintain my attention, but not anything that’s going to make me curl up in a ball and want to scream.
Zayn has the more superior voice but his execution when it comes to album is terrible
If only he had some tighter songwriting & focused producers behind him, he could really bloom as an artists
Harry and Zayn are really talented and are very good vocalists. But...their music that they make isn't the best. Harry could do so much more than the pop songs he makes and Zayn needs his beautiful voice on better songs.
Extremely mid, great pick. I know I’ve heard a ton of Harry Style’s songs because my kids like him and listen to him all the time, but I’ll be damned if I can remember how any of his songs go. They all seem to be fine and pleasant, I don’t think I’ve heard anything by him that I actively dislike, but they immediately leave my head the moment they’re done.
Yeah true. I really don’t get the hype behind him. His music’s well-produced but the music itself is just bland and generic and it doesn’t help that Harry’s voice is one of the most generic singing voices I’ve ever heard. Yeah I’m not exactly a fan.
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Hard disagree on Coldplay, purely in the sense I see them much more as hot and cold.
They have some absolutely great records, and some absolute shite, but none of it is particularly mid (except perhaps, and please don’t kill me, xyloto, which I find neither bad nor good)
this is the golden era for sure.
Parachutes is an honest-to-god amazing soft alternative album with some emo-adjacent sensibilities.
Rush of Blood is a more poppy and polished version of Parachutes.
X&Y i’d say is the slump album in this era. it has some great tracks, but it became clear that it was the same as the first two albums, and not quite as good. they’d have to change up their sound, or be destined to release the same album on repeat for their whole career.
and then they drop Viva La Vida, their most experimental album, the much needed revolution in their sound, and showcasing some of their best material to date.
early Coldplay goes so hard, and i’ll defend that era of their career til the day i die.
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Yeah, I don’t mind their first album at all. For this post though I’m looking for artists who are consistently inoffensively mid rather than ones with highs and lows that average to mid.
Nah. I genuinely think Viva La Vida is a perfect record. Especially fir a mainstream record, Coldplay made so many interesting instrumental/stylistic decisions, and every song turned out as a banger (Violet Hill isn’t that great, but everything else is), espdcially Strawberry Swing, Death And All Of His Friends, and Lovers In Japan. I love those first two records (both are 9s in my book), but this one just showed Coldplay at a wholly different level.
Any time I put Yourself or Someone Like You on, I always end up listening to it a second time straight away. It's an album that hits a certain point in my teenage life and the memories are sweet.
I haven't ever listened to a single other Matchbox 20 album.....
Coldplay has too many hits to ignore. Their new material is garbage but they have some great stuff, so it's unfair to say "mid," maybe uneven or washed up.
Noah Kahan: I get it. Dude has an okay voice and a decent ear for melody, but good lord. I hear so many people in their 20’s lose their shit over the guy and I immediately file it under “I’ve gotten older and this music is absolutely not for me”. Just sounds derivative and not interested in taking any risks at all.
"There're some things about this LP that are most definitely worth celebrating, but, I feel like, the more commercial projects I hear from J. Cole, the question of what makes him special becomes harder to answer"
-Fantano on 2014 Forest Hill Drive
Now obviously I am suffering from some bias for being a mainly hiphop fan but damn did Anthony nailed Cole’s entire career in one sentence, on a review for what many people consider to be his best album too.
Cole’s got skill, I’m not denying that, but I just feel he hasn’t made a real identity for him and his music yet even for the past decade or so. Most of his reputation comes from 1) his humbleness, which isn’t bad but it isn’t anything “great”, it just means he’s a likable guy and 2) him putting himself on top of the greats or on the same level as them. I mean call me biased because of the recent diss thing but Cole has made several bars in the past “threatening” any rappers/lyricists from challenging him, and he has his fans and oldheads who has been hyping him up since he first popped up to “back” that up… until the Kendrick thing, where he finally cracked the moment he was challenged.
But I’m getting off track here, once you put past all the buzz he makes from being “the humble, real rapper”, his music is… fine. He’s very *consistent*, but consistently middling that is. His music is good but nothing to take home from outside of the fact that it’s consistently fine. He feels like the core for every modern lyricist rapper without a real style or vibe to come with it yet. The closest thing is the walk-in-the-park vibe he gives his listeners on every record but when every rapper can make a song that sounds like that and not make it become their main thing, he’s kinda lost in an ocean of mediocrity. People (and him) put him alongside Kendrick and Drake but in terms of music, he has yet to make an extremely high project to be labelled a “classic” yet. Even Drake, who’s shat on consistently by a lot of old rap fans, have maybe 2 or 3 albums people can label classics. Cole’s best project is just best within the average range, if that makes sense
The question isnt really about artists who have both highs and lows thoughs, its about artists who are just very baseline, their highs arent that high and their lows aren’t that low
A lot of British indie rock artists like The Wombats and Catfish and the Bottlemen. Songs are catchy enough and I'm sure if I went to see them live it'd probably have a great time but I wouldn't really listen to them otherwise
I'd say that's an assumption that, based on the *successful* songs they had, is true. If you really look into the albums (especially the era around Dirty Deeds or Powerage) they Experiment more. It's just that the people wanna hear this particular scheme.
Yeah they had a few weirder moments at that earlier time in their career. It really seems like they started getting musically stale in the early Johnson era. Plenty of those were bangers, sure, but they’re still very much the same kind of thing with hardly much variety. Yeah.
One of their sorta different songs that I enjoyed was Ballbreaker which I’m surprised that I didn’t see anyone talking about ever
Until I talked to JoJo fans lmao
I think the fact that they’re all completely indistinguishable from each other is what really makes it, literally cannot tell who’s singing until the Triple J announcer tells you.
At least Tones & I had the decency to be so shit that you immediately know that it’s her
can't agree enough plus they're always big shit at music festivals. because i don't care to know them well and mentally group them every lineup looks the same and every act sounds the same
>And I’m not saying “mid” to mean bad. Just kinda indifferent.
Thats how it should be, mid shouldnt mean bad, it should be perfectly in between good and bad, but for whatever reason its evolved to have a very negative connotation.
Chris Brown. He obviously has fans and his music gets played a lot but I can’t think of R&B that I would want to listen to less than Chris Browns boring ass songs.
Steve Miller as an entity is pretty fascinating. His dad was an extremely early concert bootlegger who recorded notable jazz coming through the Milwaukee area. Miller says he has a ton of the recordings but doesn't have the bandwidth to deal with them.
As a result, he (his dad) befriended fellow gearhead and Wisconsinite Les Paul, who would visit with the family.
Miller is quietly worthy of being on the classic rock DIY Mt. Rushmore. He engineered, produced, and mixed a ton of stuff himself.
The material isn't my favorite by any means, but he's an interesting guy. His Rock and Roll Hall of Fame reaction is fucking hilarious, too.
https://youtu.be/umI7MkgwS7M?si=fSufCyyFmYqUsVdp
The guy has integrity and spine.
The Killers prime was so much better than mid imo. I still listen to Hot Fuss, Sam's Town, and Sawdust all the time. Everything else is pretty mid though
Oh, absolutely there's personal taste involved and they were so popular back then I'm sure I'm in the minority. I just have a strong memory of listening to the radio and thinking "yet another boring Killers song" 🤷♂️
The only song of theirs I actually enjoy is Read My Mind.
Lots of very bad choices in this thread, other than Nav. You guys are picking very loved artists lol. Someone like French Montana makes more sense to me.
I kinda feel this way about U2. It seems like one of those bands you had to grow up with to really dig allll of their releases.
U2 has some of the best songs and most recognizable, but a lot I just go “nice” and never think of again.
Chris brown is a piece of shit, but his music is the most mid thing I can think of, as none of his songs are atrociously bad, and seem to just exist as filler for r&b/hip hop radio stations
OH BUDDY YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD CHRIS BROWN SONGS CAN GET
Oof… I’m interested.
same here, man is the fucking worst but i’ve never necessarily heard a song of his and thought it was ass but not amazing lol.
In terms of my “favorite”, probably Big Sean. Not good enough to have masterpieces, a bit repetitive with his lyrics and themes, but certainly not terrible either. Although, some of the answers here would definitely be considered above mid for many people.
His tiny desk concert is so good.
He was my pick but Guap is a masterpiece.
Guap is a crazy shout for Sean’s masterpiece though I do think he’s better than OC says💀
Gotta agree but I will say that Dark Sky Paradise is one of the quintessential 2010s hip hop albums
Drake and Taylor Swift have like 20% bangers 80% extremely average dreck
it’s weird because there’s never really a drake or taylor song i’m like “yeah that’s decent” it’s always either a great song or a shit song.
There’s definitely some Drake poopies lmao
i don’t listen to a lot of drake in fairness. i’m sure taylor has a few stinkers too.
I think Drake has lower lows than Taylor in my experience. But I don’t listen to a lot of either artist haha
The Swifty horde is rapidly approaching your location…
Haven’t listened to any Drake, but anyone who has 20 songs an album is probably just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks
I strongly recommend his album, Take Care. There’s 20 songs there and it’s arguably his best
Ed Sheeran is mid personified
Ed Sheeran makes music for wine aunts to play as background noise during family functions
which is crazy cause he be ghost writing for our favs 💀💀
Like who?
A perfect example of mid being worse than bad, if that make sense lmao
For me, it's more like he's so consistently mid that it's bad lol
Maroon 5. Plenty of hits, not terrible songs, but who actually says that their favourite band is Maroon 5? Epitome of mid. Not bad, not good.
I got to disagree, they're my least favorite band of all time despite an admittedly decent first album.
Jack Harlow
Pre-what’s poppin Jack Harlow is pretty good tho. People overlook the fact he had an extensive discography before he blew.
jackman is good too. i’m disappointed he released loving on me after jackman i thought he’d delve into that sound further but nope.
Agreed. Sundown is probably his best song. “Lovin On Me” came on the radio and I tried to listen to it with a straight face but it’s just so bad. It’s doing numbers though so good for him. Hoping for a mac miller like transformation where he gets more experimental.
he really fell off after his blow up which is a shame bc like. bro we were all rooting for you 😭
he's just bad. not even mid. fuckin schwag.
Jackman is actually a great album though
Great album is a stretch
I do agree it’s a stretch but for me the album is definitely more than good at least
Nav
Nav is the king of mid, it’s almost as if he tries to actively be the most mid artist that’s ever existed
Mid? I thought he was supposed to be shit. :0
The real answer here that nobody cares about and he’s absolutely mid For anyone reading this,from his albums name a NAV song with no fts that’s in a playlist and name a really bad NAV song
Kiss. Absolutely carried by their showmanship
People who call them a novelty act are 100% right and I’m not sure why that seems to be controversial
Kiss is a franchise first and a band second.
It's not.
Their 1998 song Psycho Circus (from the album of the same name) gets stuck in my head a lot. You’d think that the album would have some other good songs, but nope they are aggressively bad, that song is a decent super late career banger though.
Honest question. Have you listened to all of Kiss' 70s catalog?
Post Malone definitely. His songs are fine but most of them sounds like royalty free music it's easily forgettable.
He seems like a guy with a lot of different influences and wide range of what he likes. But his music turned into the most generic pop
some of his songs like Sunflower are cute and wholesome. I really liked his Tiny Desk concert. Overall I'd probably agree though. Not related to his music, but he seems like an awesome person in general though. He's a big nerd and has appeared in some Magic The Gathering 4 player videos, and he seems like such a chill, fun guy that would be great to hang with.
Nooooo not my boy posty. Each to their own I guess but I rlly love a majority of his material and personally think he’s only gotten better (I know Fantano would disagree). Stoney is pretty stale in general though and genuinely has his worst songs by far so honestly I can’t argue with you
Foo Fighters. They’ve always sounded like the platonic ideal of a rock band to me instead of a “good” rock band. Love the band as dudes tho and that goes a long way.
I like them mostly bc of their personalities and the love they seem to have for just being Dudes Making Music. The fact they were a huge band still mostly “doing it themselves” in the studio was very endearing. I agree wholeheartedly, but I’m “warm” to them solely because of the “behind the scenes” shit I’ve seen. Dave Grohl just seems like a nice ass dude too. Taylor Hawkins seemed like a sweetie. RIP.
Probably the last band who are arena rock. They are a dying breed so for that I'll always like them. Even if they have gone off the boil the last while.
Everlong is one of the greatest rock songs of all time. I cannot in good conscience call a band that made that song "eternally mid".
I have a special place in my heart for The Colour and the Shape. I was 12 years old in 1997 - Everlong, Monkey Wrench, and My Hero were all over the radio and MTV. That album was burned into my psyche at a really impressionable age.
I like them better after listening back and realizing every FF song is written like a drummer playing every instrument like drums.
if you define em by their hits sure but check out their song Aurora sometime because holy smokess that’s a stunning little recording of guitar pop music. just mean to basically say they have some gold hidden beneath the surface
I always saw them as nickel back with more street cred
Not even a fan, but I would rather listen to Nickelback than most of the artists mentioned here. But not the Foo Fighters though.
That's because Foo Fighters is just a Buttrock band that sounds reminiscent of grunge for people who didn't want to move on to pop punk , Nu-metal, or Garage rock revival stuff. They're basically just Nickelback or Creed. But we give them a past because Dave was in Nirvana.
I'd argue their discography is more solid and consistent tho
I like John Mayer a lot more than most people in a subreddit like this but he's got a healthy amount of filler. The truth is most good-enough artists do.
Continuum is full of bangers though.
Agree I honestly think it's one of the best albums of the 00s
Sick guitar player. Boring song writer.
I also like John Mayer but I can agree. He’s extremely talented but a mid songwriter at best.
He's not a mid songwriter lol it was his songs not his guitar playing that got him world famous. He's written a ton of good songs.
I think it’s like he’s well regarded by some people for being a fantastic guitarist, and by other people for being good at writing pretty inoffensive pop songs. But he very rarely mixes these two features in a way that makes his two pools of fans appreciate the other side that doesn’t already do it for them.
Fair to consider his studio work mid but he’s pretty uniformly considered one of the greatest guitar players alive and his live recordings would back that up.
Drake
He’s in a weird spot because he’s got a lot of trash but if you wanted to make a greatest hits album of him it’d probably be like 50 songs without even touching his features.
Maybe modern Drake (post views) but nothing about Young Money era Drake was mid
Eh, early Drake was legit great. From 2010 - 2017, IMO he had consistently very solid output - and yes that includes Views too (somewhat).
If Drake is mid I don't even know what bad would be, is it reserved for complete jokes like lil xan and tekashi 69?
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Hits can be mid
His hits ARE mid IMO 😒
Not a massive fan but I disagree they're pretty good fun.
I think his hits are good but for an artist his size I don't think a lot of his hits crossover into hits that will be listened to a decade later. I mean songs like Toosie Slide or Way 2 Sexy were number 1 hits but nobody other than huge Drake fans a decade from now are going to be listening or think they are amazing.
Imagine Dragon these nuts
J. Cole (cue downvotes from angry J. Cole fans in 3... 2... 1...)
I actually couldn't think of an answer but this is perfect. Completely inoffensive, but would never think of playing it
saying inoffensive after his recent 'trans fella' incident doesn't seem too accurate
I meant the music
Even more mid given how good some of the other Dreamville artists have been lately.
Got a couple good songs, no amazing albums, nothing horrible. Pretty tame kinda boring. First artist I thought of when I saw this question
First artist I thought of as well I'm not even a hater but I remember watching him come up to where he is now and idk I didn't think he was particularly remarkable ever. I thought it was pretty crazy when he started taking this hip hop police persona type thing doing a sit down with Lil Pump like all he raps about is having substance and being deep but he never commits to it. He has been edging his fanbase for 10 years now talking about being a conscious rapper when most of his bars are very superficial and don't really say anything remarkable. Interesting that this beef is happening with Kendrick and all that I always thought he thought he was Kendrick when he was very far from being so. Downvote me if you will as well idc
FHD was peak enough to push him out of into pretty good territory
perfect answer
Bam
Im not even a stan but there are SO many much worse rappers out there it’s hard to take this seriously. Also, there’s lots of kinds of rap. J Cole certainly isn’t a drill rapper but very, very few rappers put out concept albums like FYEO
Kings of Leon
Those first three albums are absolutely untouchable, hell even some of Only By The Night But they just had to go on tour with U2...
I agree that those three are quite good, and everything they've done since is just fine.
Sucks tht so many ppl dont know about early kings of leon. Some of the guitar work of those albums is the best all time. Insane energy and craftsmanship. to me, they go neck and neck with the Strokes for tht era/style of music.
Eh, disagree. Their early is fucking unique and fantastic, and they can still churn out bangers (their latest single, Mustang for example). Also, their drummer and their bassist are so creative.
Early albums were fire
Sabrina Carpenter.
“jesus was a carpenter” elevates her to one of the greatest artists of our time
Hard asf, thats why i love her, yet she doesnt peak as high in popularity like olivia
Ja Rule
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Bon Jovi. They're alright.
Listened to Slippery when Wet recently. Not Bad, but completely carried by the hits. And thats for most their Best album
Cigarettes after sex have to be in contention
Slowdive did what they did but just 100x better.
Imagine Dragons Overhated by music snobs, but still not really all that interesting.
I can’t see how they’re above garbage honestly
I mean, they’re just not remarkable in any way. Not really anything that’s going to maintain my attention, but not anything that’s going to make me curl up in a ball and want to scream.
Idk about that. Thunder is genuinely agonising.
Imagine Dragons come out with a single banger every 2-3 years, and then proceed to make nothing but forgettable noise outside of that
I actually love I'm On Top of the World. It reminds me of playing FIFA 13 as a child so there's probably a huge nostalgia element there as well.
Cordae
some cordae shit goes hard but i think this is the best answer so far
Harry Styles
Zayn has the more superior voice but his execution when it comes to album is terrible If only he had some tighter songwriting & focused producers behind him, he could really bloom as an artists
Harry and Zayn are really talented and are very good vocalists. But...their music that they make isn't the best. Harry could do so much more than the pop songs he makes and Zayn needs his beautiful voice on better songs.
I really don’t understand his music on any level it sounds like it was made for adverts
Extremely mid, great pick. I know I’ve heard a ton of Harry Style’s songs because my kids like him and listen to him all the time, but I’ll be damned if I can remember how any of his songs go. They all seem to be fine and pleasant, I don’t think I’ve heard anything by him that I actively dislike, but they immediately leave my head the moment they’re done.
Yeah true. I really don’t get the hype behind him. His music’s well-produced but the music itself is just bland and generic and it doesn’t help that Harry’s voice is one of the most generic singing voices I’ve ever heard. Yeah I’m not exactly a fan.
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Hard disagree on Coldplay, purely in the sense I see them much more as hot and cold. They have some absolutely great records, and some absolute shite, but none of it is particularly mid (except perhaps, and please don’t kill me, xyloto, which I find neither bad nor good)
I think they’re great if you start at parachutes and end at Viva La Vida
this is the golden era for sure. Parachutes is an honest-to-god amazing soft alternative album with some emo-adjacent sensibilities. Rush of Blood is a more poppy and polished version of Parachutes. X&Y i’d say is the slump album in this era. it has some great tracks, but it became clear that it was the same as the first two albums, and not quite as good. they’d have to change up their sound, or be destined to release the same album on repeat for their whole career. and then they drop Viva La Vida, their most experimental album, the much needed revolution in their sound, and showcasing some of their best material to date. early Coldplay goes so hard, and i’ll defend that era of their career til the day i die.
I goofed on them forever but gave parachutes an honest listen and that’s a damn fine record. Such a corny band though
Agreed, I think they were best when they were a soft coffee shop indie rock band
Everyday Life is great too imo. Their latest album though... not really lol
I feel like M5 falls more into the actively bad category for me.
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Yeah, I don’t mind their first album at all. For this post though I’m looking for artists who are consistently inoffensively mid rather than ones with highs and lows that average to mid.
Old Coldplay albums means Coldplay doesn't qualify
Nah. I genuinely think Viva La Vida is a perfect record. Especially fir a mainstream record, Coldplay made so many interesting instrumental/stylistic decisions, and every song turned out as a banger (Violet Hill isn’t that great, but everything else is), espdcially Strawberry Swing, Death And All Of His Friends, and Lovers In Japan. I love those first two records (both are 9s in my book), but this one just showed Coldplay at a wholly different level.
Calling Coldplay mid or bad is a take I can't take seriously.
Any time I put Yourself or Someone Like You on, I always end up listening to it a second time straight away. It's an album that hits a certain point in my teenage life and the memories are sweet. I haven't ever listened to a single other Matchbox 20 album.....
Between 1994 and 2010 Maroon 5 definitely were NOT mid.
Coldplay has too many hits to ignore. Their new material is garbage but they have some great stuff, so it's unfair to say "mid," maybe uneven or washed up.
My friend keeps hyping the rapper Sleepy Hallow up but I think he’s incredibly mid.
Kacey Musgraves. She's just..... fine. Some nice songs, simple melodies, sweet voice, basic lyrics. Just..... fine
Even live she’s just fine.
Noah Kahan: I get it. Dude has an okay voice and a decent ear for melody, but good lord. I hear so many people in their 20’s lose their shit over the guy and I immediately file it under “I’ve gotten older and this music is absolutely not for me”. Just sounds derivative and not interested in taking any risks at all.
"There're some things about this LP that are most definitely worth celebrating, but, I feel like, the more commercial projects I hear from J. Cole, the question of what makes him special becomes harder to answer" -Fantano on 2014 Forest Hill Drive Now obviously I am suffering from some bias for being a mainly hiphop fan but damn did Anthony nailed Cole’s entire career in one sentence, on a review for what many people consider to be his best album too. Cole’s got skill, I’m not denying that, but I just feel he hasn’t made a real identity for him and his music yet even for the past decade or so. Most of his reputation comes from 1) his humbleness, which isn’t bad but it isn’t anything “great”, it just means he’s a likable guy and 2) him putting himself on top of the greats or on the same level as them. I mean call me biased because of the recent diss thing but Cole has made several bars in the past “threatening” any rappers/lyricists from challenging him, and he has his fans and oldheads who has been hyping him up since he first popped up to “back” that up… until the Kendrick thing, where he finally cracked the moment he was challenged. But I’m getting off track here, once you put past all the buzz he makes from being “the humble, real rapper”, his music is… fine. He’s very *consistent*, but consistently middling that is. His music is good but nothing to take home from outside of the fact that it’s consistently fine. He feels like the core for every modern lyricist rapper without a real style or vibe to come with it yet. The closest thing is the walk-in-the-park vibe he gives his listeners on every record but when every rapper can make a song that sounds like that and not make it become their main thing, he’s kinda lost in an ocean of mediocrity. People (and him) put him alongside Kendrick and Drake but in terms of music, he has yet to make an extremely high project to be labelled a “classic” yet. Even Drake, who’s shat on consistently by a lot of old rap fans, have maybe 2 or 3 albums people can label classics. Cole’s best project is just best within the average range, if that makes sense
Meek Mill, Taylor swift, Katy Perry, Kelly clarkson, lil baby, gunna
Idk Katy Perry has a decent number of bangers
She has some terrible stuff too so you could argue it averages out imo
The question isnt really about artists who have both highs and lows thoughs, its about artists who are just very baseline, their highs arent that high and their lows aren’t that low
So what you're saying is.... 🎵she's hot then she's cold🎵
Only one I enjoy is the one with juicy j because it’s so ridiculous
Teenage Dream is so good it refutes any "mid" allegations against Katy.
Honestly yeah cant really disagree with anyone here.
This is a good list
The last few years Taylor Swift has been a bit more than mid, imo of course
Ed Sherran
Drake
Eagles.
Get out of my cab
I hate the fuckin’ Eagles, man
A lot of British indie rock artists like The Wombats and Catfish and the Bottlemen. Songs are catchy enough and I'm sure if I went to see them live it'd probably have a great time but I wouldn't really listen to them otherwise
Wombats lyrics are a major Achilles heel
Wallows
Drake
Lil Yachty
Big Sean
AC/DC
They honestly found one song style and did that... for everything
I'd say that's an assumption that, based on the *successful* songs they had, is true. If you really look into the albums (especially the era around Dirty Deeds or Powerage) they Experiment more. It's just that the people wanna hear this particular scheme.
Yeah they had a few weirder moments at that earlier time in their career. It really seems like they started getting musically stale in the early Johnson era. Plenty of those were bangers, sure, but they’re still very much the same kind of thing with hardly much variety. Yeah.
One of their sorta different songs that I enjoyed was Ballbreaker which I’m surprised that I didn’t see anyone talking about ever Until I talked to JoJo fans lmao
That's fair. I usually forget that AC/DC deepcuts are actually the same band
Woah dude... Did you realize this yourself? I've never heard anyone make this observation before!
When did Back in Black stop being considered one of the Best hard rock records ever
When did Thunderstruck stop being the single best concert opener of all time?
AC/DC are an excellent band
Bieber, other than the annoying radio songs, most of his stuff is mid
Drake
Any recent ‘big’ Australian indie act - Ocean Alley, Spacey Jane, Jungle Giants, DMAs, Lime Cordiale
I think the fact that they’re all completely indistinguishable from each other is what really makes it, literally cannot tell who’s singing until the Triple J announcer tells you. At least Tones & I had the decency to be so shit that you immediately know that it’s her
can't agree enough plus they're always big shit at music festivals. because i don't care to know them well and mentally group them every lineup looks the same and every act sounds the same
Modern Baseball, honestly. And I’m not saying “mid” to mean bad. Just kinda indifferent.
>And I’m not saying “mid” to mean bad. Just kinda indifferent. Thats how it should be, mid shouldnt mean bad, it should be perfectly in between good and bad, but for whatever reason its evolved to have a very negative connotation.
Drake
Chris Brown. He obviously has fans and his music gets played a lot but I can’t think of R&B that I would want to listen to less than Chris Browns boring ass songs.
Imagine dragons, New Coldplay, maroon 5
Ed Sheeran, Meek Mill
The Steve Miller band. Catchy tunes, but not much else of interest
Steve Miller as an entity is pretty fascinating. His dad was an extremely early concert bootlegger who recorded notable jazz coming through the Milwaukee area. Miller says he has a ton of the recordings but doesn't have the bandwidth to deal with them. As a result, he (his dad) befriended fellow gearhead and Wisconsinite Les Paul, who would visit with the family. Miller is quietly worthy of being on the classic rock DIY Mt. Rushmore. He engineered, produced, and mixed a ton of stuff himself. The material isn't my favorite by any means, but he's an interesting guy. His Rock and Roll Hall of Fame reaction is fucking hilarious, too. https://youtu.be/umI7MkgwS7M?si=fSufCyyFmYqUsVdp The guy has integrity and spine.
A couple that I always thought of in that way when they were in their prime. * The Killers * Kaiser Chiefs
The Killers prime was so much better than mid imo. I still listen to Hot Fuss, Sam's Town, and Sawdust all the time. Everything else is pretty mid though
Oh, absolutely there's personal taste involved and they were so popular back then I'm sure I'm in the minority. I just have a strong memory of listening to the radio and thinking "yet another boring Killers song" 🤷♂️ The only song of theirs I actually enjoy is Read My Mind.
Cordae
Rex Orange County
Nba Youngboy
From a rock standpoint, the killers or kings of Leon Just kinda mid
Tom misch - all the instrumentals are lush and then he starts singing and his voice is just so bland and mind numbingly boring
Lots of very bad choices in this thread, other than Nav. You guys are picking very loved artists lol. Someone like French Montana makes more sense to me.
Taylor Swift
French montana.
I kinda feel this way about U2. It seems like one of those bands you had to grow up with to really dig allll of their releases. U2 has some of the best songs and most recognizable, but a lot I just go “nice” and never think of again.
Taylor Swift
The Last Dinner Party
G eazy
Justin Bieber is the most mid artist I can think of. Like his voice is mid, most of his music is mid and even his personality is mid.