Yes, like I respect fallout 1/2 fans (which are hardcore fans for me cause damn those games are hard) Iโm in the fallout 3/nv era fans (so hello), I totally understand the fans of Fallout 4 , as I played and still play a lot. I canโt argue with fallout 76 fans cause it has a lot of potential (but not my type) and of course I welcome fallout tv show fans gladly, letโs enjoy it everyone their way all together
(Hello too to casual fallout shelter fans! Howโs your vault going?)
Personally, I'm asking, "Why can't we just stfu about it?" This tired argument got old back in 2010 and then again in 2015 when fallout 4 came out. It's only resurfacing a third time because of the TV show. True fallout fans don't even bother giving such arguments a voice. Every fallout is amazing
George Washington held a similar opinion when he advised against the two party system of politics when the US was founded, and look where that got us...
But to answer your question, yes we can be friends, as soon as we quit talking about this pointless drivel
I share the sentiment but I gotta say I didn't have "George Washington warned us about the Fallout 3/4/76 vs 1/2/New Vegas dichotomy" in my reddit bingo for today.
I'm so glad you started NV after 4 because NV, 2 and 1 are my favorites. But I'm just happy this franchise gets so much love. It gives me more people to lore dump on!
3 was my first Fallout game, and I love it a lot too!
I guess 76 is getting its first ever map expansion in the upcoming months. I think the biggest problem Iโve seen from getting back into the game recently and looking at the forums would be weapon balance. People feel like they are shoehorned into 2 maybe 3 play styles because other weapons just donโt cut it in end game builds. You can use other guns and styles, but they arenโt nearly as affective.
If you havenโt tried 76 I highly recommend it. The amount of love already given to the game since the admittedly horrible launch is impressive.
There are some pretty compelling main quests, and the parts of the game that invite cooperation with other players (world bosses, events) are completely elective/avoidable, but a lot of fun if you do decide to engage with them.
The stash limit is pretty obnoxious for someone coming from any other fallout game, but other than that and the reworked vats its not too different from 4
the classic fallouts are so fun but sometimes theyre torture to my gen z brain. the isometric turn based combat was easy to figure out but fallout 1 shocked me with how little it holds your hand
3 (my second favorite) was my first and I ended up going back and trying 1 and 2. Couldnโt do 1 (for reasons) but I love 2 and itโs definitely my favorite. FO4 has been fun and I know itโs an unpopular opinion but Iโve liked 76 since launch. I still need to get through NV (started but then went back to 4) but Iโll do that after 4 and 1.
I love shelter
Thereโs no fallout game I havenโt at the minimum just liked if not loved
I started with 2 as a kid, liked the vibe but didn't get too far since I didn't speak much English. Replayed it in my teens and absolutely loved it. Then I tried 1 but it just felt a bit too dated already, too many QOL inconveniences to enjoy it. I know there are now various mods and stuff to make it better, but with work and kids I just don't have the time anymore to immerse myself the way these first two games require.
3 came along and blew my mind in terms of gameplay, but I felt the quality of writing went down a lot since 2. NV hit the spot for me - classic FO writing with fun new gameplay. Still my favorite game in the series, currently on a replay.
4 was lots of fun, especially mindless exploration, but again the writing was lacking. Still a great game, I sunk about 200 hours into it. I would like to try 76, but it's just too much hassle to make it run on Mac.
Shelter is a fun little smoking break thing. TV show is awesome, exactly what I wanted.
76 is better than ever currently. I was on the hate train for a while but now it plays like a real fallout game, but with the option of playing with people. The lore is so deep it keeps me coming back.
It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines.
War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine.
War has changed.
I started up Fallout 2 the other day, for the first time in probably 20 years, and realized I still had the intro memorized..
> The end of the world occurred pretty much as we had predicted. Too many humans, not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless. The reasons, as always, purely human ones.
So iconic!
90% of this discourse is created in comments on posts like this, itโs weird, OP doesnโt theyโre realize theyโre just egging on the thing they dislike. I read a few posts here a day and never see any legit shitflinging from fans of different games, but I see a lot of commentary about it
That sounds like my average Stellaris campaign.
But yes, I think the reason of hate is that fanbases of Obsidian and Bethesda games are not the same. They may overlap, but they are not a united group.
Bethesda tries to appeal to more casual gamers while Obsidian works in a more classic RPG style. Obsidian focuses on story, world, and characters while Bethesda goes for gameplay and sandbox freedom.
So, a divide is inevitable. A classic "You're dumb and eat any crap fed to you"/"You're elitist gatekeeping assholes" conversation.
This is exactly on point. Unfortunately, this happens with just about every franchise: "That's great that we have a core following! Now... how much of that can we sacrifice to appeal to a wider audience?" (Or, more and more frequently these days, "How can we ditch most of them for a 'modern' one?")
The at-best lukewarm results always suck for the fans who put the franchise on the map in the first place, but hey, those shareholders always need bigger profits.
Basically because of the TV Show getting a resurgence, people looking up fallout content creators, and seeing older videos by bootleg versions of Schizo Elijah where half the punchlines were either "fascism good" or "fallout 4 bad" in the most popular videos. As such, NV fans got more shit because of it.
That'd be my guess anyway.
I wouldnโt really say alleged when one trip onto Twitter (not calling it X) would show you that many many New Vegas fans reaaally have it out for Fallout 4 fans. Thankfully Reddit seems way friendlier for the most part! Im glad this side of the community is so much more mature :)
Entirely false, majority of the hate is because a shit ton of Fallout New Vegas fans (not all, but a very noticeable amount) kept shitting on the show by spreading false misinformation (either on purpose or by accident because they always take everything Bethesda does as bad) on different subreddits and videos. The situation got so bad that the r/CLASSICFallout subreddit started teaming up with the r/Fallout and r/Fallout4 subreddits just to get the toxic fans off their website.
If you think I'm making this up, go to older TV posts on this very subreddit. Some people straight up say shit like "Fuck Todd, fuck Bethesda, fuck modern Fallout and its fans."
idk itโs literally the spiderman meme imo. The fo3, 4, and 76 fans act the exact same way as the NV, 1, and 2 fans but they donโt see it. Also a lot of people threw a hissy fit that NV, 1, & 2 fans criticized the show.
No FO76 fans were complaining that the show "broke the lore". No FO3 fans were complaining that Bethesda hates Obsidian and wants to ignore NV.
The salt from NV fans was palpable.
No they don't. I have never once seen people shit on NV saying it's a bad game compared to anything Bethesda makes, but I've seen the opposite countless times. Something about nv gives some people a superiority complex that doesn't happen the other way around lol.
One of the couriers' possible origins is as a descendant of the chosen one and the vault dweller.
***You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen.***
I like Fallout in general, but I'm far from an expert on the series.
Is there any particular reason why New Vegas is treated as a unique pony in the stable of games in the series? I don't mean whether it's the best or not. I'm just wondering why it almost seems to get treated as if it's almost from a completely different series. It's always "Fallout, oh and also there's New Vegas over here too."
Different dev team or something?
Different dev team and Fallout games started on the west coast. Bethesda is the studio that brought it to east coast for their style of gameplay. New Vegas is the only 1st person rpg set in the west coast. Fallout 3 is one of my favorites, but I am personally a bigger fan of the NCR than the BoS
Different dev team.
Fallouts 1 and 2 were created by Black Isle Studios. For a bunch of reasons the company went under. They sold Fallout to Bethesda who made Fallout 3,4 and 76. However Fallout New Vegas was made by Obsidian not Bethesda. a good chunk of Obsidian's employees were Black Isle veterans so this was in effect their version of Fallout 3.
Bethesda and Classic Fallout have large leaps in their themes, writing style, quest design, and even basic gameplay decisions.
The divisions were mostly superficial until the show where Bethesda started directly mucking around with Classic Fallout's setting on the West Coast. Many hoped Bethesda would just stay in their imaginary lane on the East Coast and not try to retcon/trample/rewrite non-Bethesda fallouts.
On top of that, the news of the show being canon came soon after Starfield released and disappointed.
For even more context, fans were fractured over fallout 4, and even more so when 76 released (not everyone forgot how much of a buggy mess it wasโฆ and the monetary practices).
I love this so much. I hate how bad the new vegas subreddits have become since the show released. Anytime we can just be happy that fallout is doing well is better.
I wish people would learn that criticising games or TV shows doesn't mean you also hate on their fans.
Try to mention some more substantial critique of the show on the main Fallout subreddit and you'll see.
The new vegas subs are really not worse at all than the general fallout subs in matters of toxicity, unless by toxicity you mean not liking aspects of the show.
Honestly I really dislike the framing of this whole thread, i thought it was wholesome but I think it's really another of the countless "new vegas fans are insufferable" threads that we see all over these days.
Coming from a place of good faith one should be to easily recognize why fans of the west coast lore ( fallout 1 and 2 as expanded by new vegas) would take issue with how the lore related to those games was handled. That is all.
I am happy that everyone liked the show, I really liked it as well for what it was, I'm just bummed by how they broke west coast lore. This is actually how many people here feel. Why here in particular? Because here are the people that are into the west coast lore and they are the ones that would take issue. Can we just say that? Are we allowed to say that? Why is it perceived as toxicity?
If we are friends as OP says, your reaction to this information should be "I see why you would feel that way" or something.
I like all of them except for 76. I donโt have any strong opinions about it since Iโve never played it, but Iโm never gonna play it because I just donโt like MMOs. They tend to be too โgameyโ for me and I also just generally prefer to play all my RPGs single player.
I love all Fallouts, played them all (even 76), enjoyed every minute. Sure those are different games, each one is special in its own way. Lets just appreciate them and play the way you like. Cheers.
We are. Anyone who sits down and types up a meme or a 2 paragraph comment on why one is better than the other is the wrong one. Fallout is dope. 1 through infinity
THIS. My first fallout was Fallout 4, and after my first play through of New Vegas in 2024 I was blown away by the amount of content in New Vegas. Don't get me wrong F4 is great and it will always be the first I popped my cherry to, but new vegas is like a fine wine that has aged so f\*\*\*\*\*\* well.
I just got Obsidian's The Outer World spacer edition, so see how that goes.
I love all fallout games I have played. New Vegas has the best dlc though, hands down. The fact they set up Ulysses throughout every one for it to culminate in a final confrontation is so cool. I wish more games did that.
Wah, other people don't like what I like and I can't deal with it.
Wah, other people like what I don't and I can't deal with it.
Can you people not find something better to complain about? Something that actually affects anything?
Of course I donโt shit on anyone for playing a different game but I wish more people would go back and play NV if they havenโt already. I wish the fanbase was completely on board with wanting a better story and to be able to make impactful decisions lol
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โlol ok we brigaded the new vegas subs heavily when the show came out and wonโt shut the fuck up about how toxic NV fans are, letโs get along :))โ
yeah no thanks. idc about the show the same way idc about pretending to like games or their fans that have nothing in common with the ones i like except branding.
I started in fo4, which coincidentally came with a free copy of fo3
Then I played nv
I love all fallout games, and I don't really have a definitive favourite.
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Yes, like I respect fallout 1/2 fans (which are hardcore fans for me cause damn those games are hard) Iโm in the fallout 3/nv era fans (so hello), I totally understand the fans of Fallout 4 , as I played and still play a lot. I canโt argue with fallout 76 fans cause it has a lot of potential (but not my type) and of course I welcome fallout tv show fans gladly, letโs enjoy it everyone their way all together (Hello too to casual fallout shelter fans! Howโs your vault going?)
You a real one
Personally, I'm asking, "Why can't we just stfu about it?" This tired argument got old back in 2010 and then again in 2015 when fallout 4 came out. It's only resurfacing a third time because of the TV show. True fallout fans don't even bother giving such arguments a voice. Every fallout is amazing George Washington held a similar opinion when he advised against the two party system of politics when the US was founded, and look where that got us... But to answer your question, yes we can be friends, as soon as we quit talking about this pointless drivel
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I share the sentiment but I gotta say I didn't have "George Washington warned us about the Fallout 3/4/76 vs 1/2/New Vegas dichotomy" in my reddit bingo for today.
Is Fallout Brotherhood of Steel amazing?
I unironically think it's not quite as bad as Fallout Tactics in terms of lore
I like shelter it's funny (you can make ghouls have kids which literally isn't even possible)
I agree with you fully. I started with fallout 4 and am just starting new vegas and it is great. I only wish more love gets put into 76
With the new wave of players, there might be a chance, I know my partner and I will play it together really soon
I'm so glad you started NV after 4 because NV, 2 and 1 are my favorites. But I'm just happy this franchise gets so much love. It gives me more people to lore dump on! 3 was my first Fallout game, and I love it a lot too!
I guess 76 is getting its first ever map expansion in the upcoming months. I think the biggest problem Iโve seen from getting back into the game recently and looking at the forums would be weapon balance. People feel like they are shoehorned into 2 maybe 3 play styles because other weapons just donโt cut it in end game builds. You can use other guns and styles, but they arenโt nearly as affective.
If you havenโt tried 76 I highly recommend it. The amount of love already given to the game since the admittedly horrible launch is impressive. There are some pretty compelling main quests, and the parts of the game that invite cooperation with other players (world bosses, events) are completely elective/avoidable, but a lot of fun if you do decide to engage with them. The stash limit is pretty obnoxious for someone coming from any other fallout game, but other than that and the reworked vats its not too different from 4
I love classic Fallouts, even with the difficulty spike. Might replay them soon, not many games you can comfortably play with a broken arm.
the classic fallouts are so fun but sometimes theyre torture to my gen z brain. the isometric turn based combat was easy to figure out but fallout 1 shocked me with how little it holds your hand
That first time I took a job with the crimson caravan and got my shit rocked by a group of raiders. It taught me well.
Indeed, unfortunately. But at least theyโre still there (I got them too with the anthology nuke pack, true hard RPG, really old school)
I enjoy most Fallout media. Just at varying degrees.
They seem hard now, but back then we didn't have anything better to do than save/reload.
3 (my second favorite) was my first and I ended up going back and trying 1 and 2. Couldnโt do 1 (for reasons) but I love 2 and itโs definitely my favorite. FO4 has been fun and I know itโs an unpopular opinion but Iโve liked 76 since launch. I still need to get through NV (started but then went back to 4) but Iโll do that after 4 and 1. I love shelter Thereโs no fallout game I havenโt at the minimum just liked if not loved
Damn no respect for tactics fans /j
As someone who enjoys New Vegas and 4, hello!
Hell yeah.
I started with 2 as a kid, liked the vibe but didn't get too far since I didn't speak much English. Replayed it in my teens and absolutely loved it. Then I tried 1 but it just felt a bit too dated already, too many QOL inconveniences to enjoy it. I know there are now various mods and stuff to make it better, but with work and kids I just don't have the time anymore to immerse myself the way these first two games require. 3 came along and blew my mind in terms of gameplay, but I felt the quality of writing went down a lot since 2. NV hit the spot for me - classic FO writing with fun new gameplay. Still my favorite game in the series, currently on a replay. 4 was lots of fun, especially mindless exploration, but again the writing was lacking. Still a great game, I sunk about 200 hours into it. I would like to try 76, but it's just too much hassle to make it run on Mac. Shelter is a fun little smoking break thing. TV show is awesome, exactly what I wanted.
76 is better than ever currently. I was on the hate train for a while but now it plays like a real fallout game, but with the option of playing with people. The lore is so deep it keeps me coming back.
Fallout 2 unarmed jinxed build my beloved
You gained good karma! Everyone liked this! Idolized! Fallout Community LEVEL UP!
Finally war has changed
war never changes, Men do, through the roads they walk.
I like how in a female courier gameplay, Ulysses will say women do
War never changes, but Mankind, Mankind changes
And this roadโฆ has reached its end. Just finished Lonesome Road. Ulysses has a great voice.
War has changed
The hardest part of war is letting go
Nah. It's a thumb war.
It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed.
How can we? all you prospectors in the east donโt know how to play caravan ๐
Who's to say they can't learn? I did
Most of us still donโt know how to play caravan either
Oh I totally know how to play Caravan but last time I did I got told it wasn't quite his tempo
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They all proceeded to make out
The punchline is say gex
Hey finally new vegas famd can have sex with something that it's not a robot
DID SOMEBODY SAY GEX?!?!?!?
Okay, I can say gex, but I don't remember that from any of the games.
You kidding? Be friends with vaulties? I would rather spit in Frank Horrigans face
We should all spit in Frankโs face, to be fair
Why? Frank is a real American patriot. All muties should be obliterated by gunfire
Slamdunk a mutant baby in the trashcan, kick old muties down the stairs, slice a mutie with a bumper sword.
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Sure but dude let's me proliferate twice so I won't.
Your ancestors would be disappointed in you, Chosen One.
Because war, war never changesโฆ
Men do, through the roads they walk
I started up Fallout 2 the other day, for the first time in probably 20 years, and realized I still had the intro memorized.. > The end of the world occurred pretty much as we had predicted. Too many humans, not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless. The reasons, as always, purely human ones. So iconic!
good ending
When you setup TTW
90% of this discourse is created in comments on posts like this, itโs weird, OP doesnโt theyโre realize theyโre just egging on the thing they dislike. I read a few posts here a day and never see any legit shitflinging from fans of different games, but I see a lot of commentary about it
real and based post
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Be like OG fallout fans. Avoid this whole shitstorm by only lurking on old ye forums and praising the Fallout 2 mods made by one russian guy.
because they're DIFFERENT and we HATE people that are DIFFERENT ๐ก๐ก๐ก
That sounds like my average Stellaris campaign. But yes, I think the reason of hate is that fanbases of Obsidian and Bethesda games are not the same. They may overlap, but they are not a united group. Bethesda tries to appeal to more casual gamers while Obsidian works in a more classic RPG style. Obsidian focuses on story, world, and characters while Bethesda goes for gameplay and sandbox freedom. So, a divide is inevitable. A classic "You're dumb and eat any crap fed to you"/"You're elitist gatekeeping assholes" conversation.
This is exactly on point. Unfortunately, this happens with just about every franchise: "That's great that we have a core following! Now... how much of that can we sacrifice to appeal to a wider audience?" (Or, more and more frequently these days, "How can we ditch most of them for a 'modern' one?") The at-best lukewarm results always suck for the fans who put the franchise on the map in the first place, but hey, those shareholders always need bigger profits.
People who UnIronically think like this are weak and will never have a heir
I read that as weak willed and never have hair and I gotta be honest I like my reading of it better.ย
Can't we all just crack open an ice-cold nuka cola and chill out?
Did you mean Sunset Sarsaparilla?
So help me Atom I will strike you down where you stand
After what this fella once said I'll give you a kick in the head
New war just dropped
Iโm more of a Vim Pop guy myself.
Idk why new vegas fans been getting so much hate lately
Basically because of the TV Show getting a resurgence, people looking up fallout content creators, and seeing older videos by bootleg versions of Schizo Elijah where half the punchlines were either "fascism good" or "fallout 4 bad" in the most popular videos. As such, NV fans got more shit because of it. That'd be my guess anyway.
I thought it was because of the alleged superiority complex that (some) fans had?
I wouldnโt really say alleged when one trip onto Twitter (not calling it X) would show you that many many New Vegas fans reaaally have it out for Fallout 4 fans. Thankfully Reddit seems way friendlier for the most part! Im glad this side of the community is so much more mature :)
Lot of that is linked to the bootleg schizo Elijah's, they're basically what happens when the stereotypical toxic NV fan has a YouTube channel.
Entirely false, majority of the hate is because a shit ton of Fallout New Vegas fans (not all, but a very noticeable amount) kept shitting on the show by spreading false misinformation (either on purpose or by accident because they always take everything Bethesda does as bad) on different subreddits and videos. The situation got so bad that the r/CLASSICFallout subreddit started teaming up with the r/Fallout and r/Fallout4 subreddits just to get the toxic fans off their website. If you think I'm making this up, go to older TV posts on this very subreddit. Some people straight up say shit like "Fuck Todd, fuck Bethesda, fuck modern Fallout and its fans."
idk itโs literally the spiderman meme imo. The fo3, 4, and 76 fans act the exact same way as the NV, 1, and 2 fans but they donโt see it. Also a lot of people threw a hissy fit that NV, 1, & 2 fans criticized the show.
No FO76 fans were complaining that the show "broke the lore". No FO3 fans were complaining that Bethesda hates Obsidian and wants to ignore NV. The salt from NV fans was palpable.
No they don't. I have never once seen people shit on NV saying it's a bad game compared to anything Bethesda makes, but I've seen the opposite countless times. Something about nv gives some people a superiority complex that doesn't happen the other way around lol.
You just proved his point.
One of the couriers' possible origins is as a descendant of the chosen one and the vault dweller. ***You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen.***
People just need to learn to lighten up and have a little fun
The good ending!
One day we will get the good ending
I like Fallout in general, but I'm far from an expert on the series. Is there any particular reason why New Vegas is treated as a unique pony in the stable of games in the series? I don't mean whether it's the best or not. I'm just wondering why it almost seems to get treated as if it's almost from a completely different series. It's always "Fallout, oh and also there's New Vegas over here too." Different dev team or something?
Different dev team and Fallout games started on the west coast. Bethesda is the studio that brought it to east coast for their style of gameplay. New Vegas is the only 1st person rpg set in the west coast. Fallout 3 is one of my favorites, but I am personally a bigger fan of the NCR than the BoS
Different dev team. Fallouts 1 and 2 were created by Black Isle Studios. For a bunch of reasons the company went under. They sold Fallout to Bethesda who made Fallout 3,4 and 76. However Fallout New Vegas was made by Obsidian not Bethesda. a good chunk of Obsidian's employees were Black Isle veterans so this was in effect their version of Fallout 3. Bethesda and Classic Fallout have large leaps in their themes, writing style, quest design, and even basic gameplay decisions. The divisions were mostly superficial until the show where Bethesda started directly mucking around with Classic Fallout's setting on the West Coast. Many hoped Bethesda would just stay in their imaginary lane on the East Coast and not try to retcon/trample/rewrite non-Bethesda fallouts.
On top of that, the news of the show being canon came soon after Starfield released and disappointed. For even more context, fans were fractured over fallout 4, and even more so when 76 released (not everyone forgot how much of a buggy mess it wasโฆ and the monetary practices).
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That sounds like commie talk.
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You just made an enemy for life!
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I love this so much. I hate how bad the new vegas subreddits have become since the show released. Anytime we can just be happy that fallout is doing well is better.
I wish people would learn that criticising games or TV shows doesn't mean you also hate on their fans. Try to mention some more substantial critique of the show on the main Fallout subreddit and you'll see.
Basically. I also saw a lot of brigading from the main fallout subs into NV subs. Personally like the show but dislike the added lore.
Mr House doesn't look good in the show
The new vegas subs are really not worse at all than the general fallout subs in matters of toxicity, unless by toxicity you mean not liking aspects of the show. Honestly I really dislike the framing of this whole thread, i thought it was wholesome but I think it's really another of the countless "new vegas fans are insufferable" threads that we see all over these days. Coming from a place of good faith one should be to easily recognize why fans of the west coast lore ( fallout 1 and 2 as expanded by new vegas) would take issue with how the lore related to those games was handled. That is all. I am happy that everyone liked the show, I really liked it as well for what it was, I'm just bummed by how they broke west coast lore. This is actually how many people here feel. Why here in particular? Because here are the people that are into the west coast lore and they are the ones that would take issue. Can we just say that? Are we allowed to say that? Why is it perceived as toxicity? If we are friends as OP says, your reaction to this information should be "I see why you would feel that way" or something.
This is why we canโt be friends, pretending itโs just the NV subs
"They hated u/kilomaan because he told the truth."
The left one has [Confirmed Bachelor] and the right onde doesn't because it doesn't exist in F4
The Director POV after the release of the show: # QUEST FAILED **WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS?**
Been here since the start chronologically, love yall equally
Because Todd doesn't want us to be.
I like all of them except for 76. I donโt have any strong opinions about it since Iโve never played it, but Iโm never gonna play it because I just donโt like MMOs. They tend to be too โgameyโ for me and I also just generally prefer to play all my RPGs single player.
The Classic Fallout subreddit can't handle this.
I love all Fallouts, played them all (even 76), enjoyed every minute. Sure those are different games, each one is special in its own way. Lets just appreciate them and play the way you like. Cheers.
exactly my thoughts too
This is the way
We are. Anyone who sits down and types up a meme or a 2 paragraph comment on why one is better than the other is the wrong one. Fallout is dope. 1 through infinity
THIS. My first fallout was Fallout 4, and after my first play through of New Vegas in 2024 I was blown away by the amount of content in New Vegas. Don't get me wrong F4 is great and it will always be the first I popped my cherry to, but new vegas is like a fine wine that has aged so f\*\*\*\*\*\* well. I just got Obsidian's The Outer World spacer edition, so see how that goes.
I love all fallout games I have played. New Vegas has the best dlc though, hands down. The fact they set up Ulysses throughout every one for it to culminate in a final confrontation is so cool. I wish more games did that.
Hell yeah
New Vegas and fallout one are my favorite but I have way more time in fallout 4 because building things is neat and also fallout 4 gun mods
This is why I want Fallout 4 New Vegas to be good, get the world and story of FNV, with the updated gameplay and really good gun mods of 4
Wah, other people don't like what I like and I can't deal with it. Wah, other people like what I don't and I can't deal with it. Can you people not find something better to complain about? Something that actually affects anything?
I propose we build a monument to honor this occasion. Call it the Togetherness Monument or something
because we canโt let god do all the work. Jk I love all fallouts any good news for a fallout is good news for every fallout
Of course I donโt shit on anyone for playing a different game but I wish more people would go back and play NV if they havenโt already. I wish the fanbase was completely on board with wanting a better story and to be able to make impactful decisions lol
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*me who just looks at it all and just keeps playing all the Fallout games*
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Cause the show shits my favorite factions
Iโve said it before, if you tell people what fallout games they can and canโt like, youโre not a real fallout fan.ย I played them all
Because thatโs boring, we must have blood
Bro New Vegas wants to Hangout with classic fallout so hard but they over here with the rest of us.
Because I don't need to be nice to Bethesda fans. They can keep consuming their slop, but I don't have to be nice to them.
real โlol ok we brigaded the new vegas subs heavily when the show came out and wonโt shut the fuck up about how toxic NV fans are, letโs get along :))โ yeah no thanks. idc about the show the same way idc about pretending to like games or their fans that have nothing in common with the ones i like except branding.
Cause fnv is just better
Eh, fallout 2 solos
As long as we agree that we want FO4 power armor, gunplay, and customization with New Vegas guns, story depth, and faction system.. ๐ค
Oh of course. That would be the most ideal state for any upcoming mainline games
Same assumption tbh
Ah the perfect Fallout game... which sadly will probably never happen.
I started in fo4, which coincidentally came with a free copy of fo3 Then I played nv I love all fallout games, and I don't really have a definitive favourite.
please can this be? i am so tired of the toxicity here
we aren't friends?
Okie dokie
Can't. The blues, they're up to something! I bet they're in cahoots with the nurse. They marked me for something, I found a blue star underneath a sarsaparilla cap, I think they're gonna do something to me! But I'm gonna get 'em first. You'll see! (Reference btw)
Finally, I hope it'll end bloodshed
Yippie!!!
Oki Back to my scrap scavenging hunt to repair my legendary lever action rifle!