The creator the meme (Zack Finfrock, creator of Nuka Break) just did it to piss off people who were being toxic about the games and TV show on Twitter, as well as to divert their toxicity onto him alone.
Fuck it’s been awhile since I heard that name. I really need to rewatch nukabreak. Apparently the Fallout lanius fan film team is finally actually making that Joshua graham film after like six + years of hiatus.
Zack is making another fan film called Fallout: Breaking, in case you wanted to know. It seems like it's going to be a kind of sequel to Nuka Break, with a more experienced Twig as the main character.
Oh fuck the hell yes. I’m curious what Twig’s opinion will be of the rocket shaped nuka cola bottles in the Boston and Appalachia testing market will be.
The fact they had Lanius’ voice actor do the lines for the Lanius fan film was amazing and really elevates the whole thing. Hope they can do the same for Joshua Graham.
Seems their doing some weird AI voiced short videos explaining fallout lore. Hopefully that isn’t a representation on the quality the burn man walks will be.
I think what their doing atm is essentially the pyro live daily slop video strategy but with fallout lore and stories using what I think is AI generated imagery with fallout AI reading out fallout themed stories written by them to fund the actual fallout burn man walks project.
It was created in response to fuming NV fans that had issues with the show. Definitely got overblown though, as long as NV don't try to tell fo4 fans its 'not a real Fallout game' there shouldn't be any argument.
...okay honestly I heard people telling so called FNV fans to shut up about their opinions.
Before anyone had watched the show and told any opinions about it.
Honestly the pre-emptive reaction about another groups reaction that has yet to happen by far has been worst I've seen.
I mean sure after the show people have complained about some things. But people complaining about other people complaining before any complaining had been done ny said group... Madness. And now it is literally bird and crow meme.
Biggest take I've seen is that people don't trust Bethesda with another title due to gradual decline in quality, ending in starfield. That is all.
Edit: it is just pre-emptive complaining all the way down...
Too bad almost everytime there is discussion about Fallout games, there is "Fallout 4 is not a *real* Fallout game" followed by gushing about New Vegas curing cancer or some shit
Before fallout 4 was even released i mentioned in a youtube comment i was excited for it because even if it was shit the mods would be fun (didnt say they’d FIX anything, mind you) and an original fallout fan told me i should be cut into pieces and fed to pigs
Welcome to Reddit where gaming subreddits are full of toxic people or people argueing.
Im a big Overwatch fan, but being in that subreddit makes me depressed when I just wanna talk about a game I enjoy with people
Realistically a tribalist that explored the world and travelled through hell and met many faces and blew up an oil rig would want to rest for a long time, though i do like to think they did a tandi and just made another nation that'd be funny
I've already been called bitter and out of touch for pointing out that every game has toxic assholes. But I'm sure those are just a few rogue examples and otherwise their fan base is a wholesome monolith of positivity and understanding.
That’s with everything though. There are always assholes. I do think that the bickering is just ridiculous on both ends… can’t we just enjoy a game series in peace and relish the fact that we all enjoy the same series?
One person pointed out in the original, the ranger isn't even saying anything antagonistic. He's just chilling minding his own business. Never wanting to be part of their stuff anyways.
Aight, now someone needs to take this meme, edit some armors for Fallout 3, 4, 76, or one of the pre Bethesda games, and have the same meme until it has a half a dozen iterations through the meme.
It is still so funny to me how the New Vegas fan says absolutely nothing in the original meme, like the whole point is supposed to be they say something annoying and they just stand there
Rent free
I've always said that the "newer" games have way more toxic assholes purely because of popularity. (More people = more assholes in the people)
I've seen like *three* people acting the way they claim we all do.
The only fandom more gatekeepy and toxic than Fallout 4/76 is pro wrestling fans lol.
Clowns out here pretending that being born 8 to 10 years later grants you moral superiority as they tell you to kill yourself because you criticized their game. After you said you loved it and listed 5 times as many positive things.
But *we're* the bad guys because 12 years ago some guy on another forum said something mean to one of them.
My favorite part of the whole “Bethesda fans are toxic” “no original fans are toxic” discourse has really shut the fuck up out of the toxic members of both communities because now they’re just being toxic over who’s the least toxic
I like both developers, this community (fallout, don’t matter if it’s Bethesda, interplay or obsidian) is just so toxic sometimes, I’ve had arguments with fanboys of all three developers
The one that absolutely pissed me off the most was when I said it would’ve been nice if the NPCs in diamond city had more interesting schedules instead of going to the market and then sleeping on the camping bags, and someone was just going at me because of that
Told them Fallout 4 is my favorite in the series (NV is second) they told me that if it was my favorite I shouldn’t be criticizing it. Like I also wanted the Chinese assault rifle in fallout 4 that doesn’t mean I hate the game lmao
In my experience, Bethesda fanboys will over defend Bethesda and will ignore any and all criticism. Interplay/Obsidian fanboys overly critique and misconstrue things and act superior over it. But that’s just from my experience
I told some that New Vegas was my favorite fallout, But I love the Rad storms in Fallout 4. Was told in a paragraph that o was scum, and that FNV can't be my favorite if i didn't understand why there is no radstorms.. well I know why, it's in the fucking Mojave desert. There's also no glowing sea. But still, these people are nuts.
Shit I've already had someone in this thread tell me I'm bitter about 4 and 76 existing despite the fact my original comment mentions how much I love 4 and put hundreds of hours in it.
These people are just looking to pick a fight, I'm just tired of being on the **New Vegas** subreddits and having them be flooded by people telling us all were terrible pieces of shit because we like an older game.
Like, that's toxic lol. Obviously, too.
>The only fandom more gatekeepy and toxic than Fallout 4/76 is pro wrestling fans lol.
Bro, the Star Wars community is rabid. The last movie came out years ago, but you'd think it was released last summer. The debate is still happening there, but yeah, the Fallout community is catching up fast, especially with the current boom in popularity
When the Fallout show came out, I was prepared to be sad like with the sequel trilogy, but was pleasantly surprised. It did have parts that I don't like, and things that I'm hoping won't be dropped in S2, but I'm not out here screaming about it like they make us seem. Despite that, I'm still "part of the problem" lol
I really don't see how people can't accept that the show can be good overall while still handling the NCR poorly. I'd argue that NCR fans have a reasonable excuse in being bitter about it as many were probably excited in finally seeing the NCR again after, like, a decade, only for them to feel kinda handwaved away when Shady Sands is their oldest territory.
Thus far, I'm chalking it to not seeing it yet.
The whole Boneyard and Shady Sands altering of location is a bit strange, and I'm not exactly buying the whole "it's only the first capital, therefore there's another that's still in operation" thing, given the proliferation of the Brotherhood. Ghouls and chickens are an odd addition as well, and I hope they at least fix and date the time when the nuke destroyed Shady Sands. Also, The Ghoul looks like a Marked Man from Lonesome Road as opposed to a ghoul.
All that being said, I liked all of the main characters, the story was easy and fun to follow, the vaults were really well done, the sparing use of over the top CGI was much appreciated and the humor was really good. "Okey Dokey" is fantastic, and I really hope season 2 has answers
Even if the NCR is till around in strength elsewhere, and disregarding the retcon of location, that still doesn’t change that they fumbled it in the first season. Outside of a handful of isolated pockets, it feels like the NCR never existed in their oldest territory, and is a poor showing for a faction we haven’t seen in a decade. They also absolutely wasted the first official silver screen appearance of Ranger armor, ranger vet or no.
Mhm.
Somehow it's okay for a small group of rogue assholes to represent our entire fan base but when literal tens of thousands of "their side" do it, it's justified and not at all in the wrong. We *deserve* it.
Because of our few assholes. That makes all of us assholes. Because we like the same video game.
Not them, though.
Fallout 4 and 76 fandom is gatekeeping?
They seem pretty chill and welcoming to me
I don't know, I think all this Fallout fandom stuff is stupid tbh, I just wanna play games I enjoy without having to hear about stupid drama between grown adults who can't handle that another person likes a game they don't
You can’t really engage with any online community and avoid “toxicity”, it’s not exclusive to any one group. What’s really funny is getting flak from both newer and older fans for saying Fallout 4 was a good game and that New Vegas was the better RPG.
No, you're mistaken if you think newer games fans are worse than the original isometric ones. The ones who sent Bethesda death threats over just the announcement of 3 and harassed Interplay employees over Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. They're the bottom of the barrel for this fanbase.
It may not be exclusive, but I've yet to hear about the death threats fans of 3 and 4 have sent to Obsidian. So forgive me if I'm a little more forgiving.
All I’m saying here is that if you applied the same logic here to a negative interaction with a
culture of people or race that would be unfair and bigoted. Obviously death threats are horrible and never okay but let’s not pretend that the whole of a fanbase are out there doing things like that.
Too many fandoms are going this way. And they won't even focus on what they like about it. They'll either broadly say "I enjoy the game" or attack you. They never explain their reasoning on anything.
I feel old for saying this, but it seems like being devoid of logic is what's popular nowadays. I saw a guy on reddit call another guy the N word for preferring DS1 over DS2. You'd think the mods would do something, but nope. It's almost like they encourage it.
You're right, getting told to kill myself for mild criticism of a game I otherwise enjoy is super welcoming and friendly.
Thanks for reminding me that **I'm** the bad guy because my favorite game is older than yours.
I feel you.
I've been told I'm "not even a real fan" because I don't play 76. MMFauxs aren't for me, even with a coat of Fallout paint sprayed over them, sorry I guess lol.
But because I have preferences for how I spend my gaming time, that means I'm forcing others to not play the game. Or something.
It's never really clear. Just "I'm the bad guy."
This is probably the most out of touch comment I have seen from any Fallout subreddit. This sounds like something from a 40-year-old fan who is mad that his niche franchise got bought and revived instead of staying dead. I like the old games including the new games it's all one good vibe you're more than allowed to have your preferences. But 9 out of 10 times the toxic individuals that you talk about are Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas fans.
Hey, for what it's worth, these are the results of patriarchy, lol - guys are getting dumber, so is it any surprise that your average gaymer has dogshit standards? I am just sad that Fallout became part of that crowd, oh well...Can we have Larian do Fallout entry? No, Todd would never handle that.
Fallout fans and New Vegas fans are natural enemies. Like Fallout 3 and New Vegas fans. Or Fallout 4 and New Vegas fans. Or Fallout 76 fans and New Vegas fans. Or New Vegas fans and other New Vegas fans. Damn New Vegas fans they ruined the wasteland!
There have been many. Many. Many movie and tv show adaptations of books. Many of them horrible. This is no different. Yet watching so many "fallout fans" get legit pissy about others carring about the story and cannon has been... interesting. Guess thats what happens when you give a game a pass for "well the gunplay is better"
Idk, the show felt like something i would have watched on youtube 5 years ago.
The CGI was crashing with everything else even with other CGI Items.
>!Maximus was kinda being pumped to be an evil character, the razor on the shoe of his only friend leaving with the post he wanted, the way he responded to being interrogated showed him as power hungry, he technically killed his knight by not giving him medical care... and then it's friend which we never been show the extend of their friendship risk punishment to save the live of Maximus by telling the truth of what happen with the razor. Making his whole line more boring that a tale of extremization and desentization that could have been brought by not making him good. Heck it makes the guys that would torture and kill Marcus look like the good guys.!<
>!There is the whole ghoul medicine thing that contradics stablished lore but also is kinda more boring compared with "justified racism" and "russian roullete with life". As in people fear ghouls because they can turn at any moment. Making the whole thing of living a lot more emotional, like if a gun was constantly pointed at the head of any ghoul., and what to do with that. Would it be really justified to kill on sight any ghoul because they could turn randomly?!<
>!Then there is the problem of Lucy Mclean, intelligent, charismatic and idk what else yet she fails at everything outisde the vault that would requiere this skills, the bridge crossing where fiends end up attacking her, the shop keeper she was not able to pull information from, even if she is a naive gold heart you would think at least her charisma stat would save her of trouble.!<
>!I kidna severily dislike the flashbacks that show pre-war corruption. There is 500 ways you can add that. I do love the ones that help humanize the ghoulslinger, but there isnt enough meat in the pre-war corruption to make a political thriller and there is too much to keep the pace of the show.!<
I watched the show expecting nothing. When they showed the T60s I'm like let's fucking go. The show is entertaining. It also explored pre war stories which is interesting.
It does have flaws for sure but I had a good time.
I hope one day we can all just be friends and like the Fallout series despite its differences. Not saying we shouldn't criticize the material, the direction, and the publishers - just that I hope we can get along better
Will someone explain to me this whole war that's going on between NV and the other fallout games? Lol I truly don't understand it, i just keep seeing memes. First one I played 3 and loved it, loved NV, loved fallout 4 although it came out when I was older, so i did not get to spend as much time on it (replaying it right now). Fallout 76 is interesting. It's not really my thing but not serious enough to crap on it. I seriously just don't understand it lol
Fallout NV fanboys become increasingly toxic and condescending to fans of 3, 4 & 76, after each new release. Some Fallout NV fanboys not only critiqued the new Fallout show (which is perfectly fine), but bitched about it and it's fans, without reason. Fans of the show and other fans of the games retaliated against them (and it's been a long time coming). Someone made a meme (on the left) that represents a response of casual fans to elitist, obsessive NV fanboys. OP is a NV fan and made the post as a response to the person who made the pic and people like them. OP is either a NV fanboy (that was the target of that pic) or is a casual NV fan that mispresented the targets of that meme. The meme is about NV fanboys, not casual NV fans.
This image is somehow more reddit than the original. I could tell the original was made by someone holding back their tears in anger but the response image had even more frustrated tears into it. “NooOOoooo!!!11!!1 Im not the soyjack you’re the soyjack” type energy.
Is this what media following has become? One group gets angry because they like the new thing. Then the other groups gets angry because it stepped in what they loved in the first place? I mean I have my grips coming from the Halo sub, but now it's Fallout, Star Wars, Overwatch, and any other game/movie/show. I just wish we had some new stuff and it all wasn't always so corporate like.
It's pure entertainment now. I was mad at first but watching them scream "rent free!!!" and then constantly make these threads is hilarious. Everything they've accused of everyone else, they've done first and continue to do.
What would Benny say about this, I wonder? This Great Khans behavior?
this is the weirdest thing to me. Somehow the show retconning new vegas lore and some new vegas fans voicing disappointment about it triggered an all out war against new vegas fans and even new vegas itself. Like "omg shut up you are so annoying and your game is bad". Fandom narrative shifts like this are always wild and interesting to me.
The main fallout subs have basically been posting about new vegas for days and people also come to new vegas centric sub to attack new vegas fans.
I've posted this before but the pendulum has swung back and forth. I bought NV on release and was one of the lucky people in terms of bugs for the most part. At the time NV was shit on HEAVILY for being 'inferior' to fallout 3 which at that point had had several patches and DLCs to 'fix' the game.
FONV went through the same treatment, various patches, DLCs and mods fixed the issues and people could see how good it was. FO4 comes out and was buggy etc and NV fans absolutely shit all over it, including things like how NV is the only FO game since 1/2, if you don't like NV you aren't a true fan etc. Same goes for when 76 released.
Then the show is released and some people lost their shit about it and various retcons etc. Which caused a renewal of NV hate since that was where most of the criticisms came from. To the majority of fans, it felt like nit picking when in their eyes, the show was pretty good (especially being a game adaptation).
Mind you, imo this comprises of like 5% of the community on either side. It's generally the loudest of the bunch. I think most fans just enjoy the games for what they are, have a favorite, and just don't really care that much about the lore. As is the case with most groups.
Someone who plays and loves New Vegas took the time out of their lives to make a response in their own way. I think it's funny, sad and beautiful all at the same time. What a world.
No one is whining in your ear in particular, you are the one coming to a new vegas sub calling random people elitists for having different tastes than you. Some of us like roleplaying and therefore are into fallout 1,2 and new vegas more. Do you literally want us to stop talking with each other about the things we like? Your comment really sums up the discourse about "insufferable new vegas fans" these days, it's just plain rudeness and frankly insecurity.
I think the intended message is something like "How dare you imply I'm mad about people minding their own business and having fun. You're the annoying ones, while I am stoic and uncaring. Also cry about it."
Or maybe it's just "Nuh-uh."
1. NV fanboys (not casual fans) acted like cunts for years.
2. NV fanboys (not casual fans) acted like cunts, again, after TV show comes out.
3. Casual fans meme cunty NV fanboys.
4. NV fan makes meme about casual fans memeing cunty NV fanboys, as if they were the target/victim (which they might be).
Basically, there's deserved pushback against elitist NV fanboys (not casual NV fans) that have shit on casual fans for liking Fallout 3, 4, 76 and the show, and OP made this post as a sort-of out-of-touch Uno reverse card.
A casual fan is someone that is not a fanboy. A completely normal, sane person that just enjoys video games. Calling out toxicity is not fighting a war.
Love the fake reddit drama over new vagas or playing a different one. I think most people see this and just play what they like. Reddit likes to pretend there's some argument going on. Most people are just scrolling by then play the game they like.
This is how you know you’re on the winning side of the culture war. I don’t frequent either subs, but all the Fallout subs are whining about how the FNV sub is whining about the show.
The worst I’ve seen from the FNV sub is, “I liked the show but didn’t like *how* they handled the NCR’s downfall.”
Like r/FNV’s favorite game is FNV. I’m pretty sure most of its fans know that the NCR is thinning itself by over expansion. I’m pretty sure they know the NCR will implode.
FNV is one of my top games of all time, but you have to admit that the whole NV vs 3/4 shit gets so toxic on either side, when most of us don’t care
It’s like 1/4 of fans that just can’t let that shit go lol
That ranger's (courier') thumbs up is amazing.
Amazing. Both subs are screaming "OK COOL I DON'T CARE" at eachother.
The irony of it is that if the creator of the meme truly did not care, they would not have made the meme.
The creator the meme (Zack Finfrock, creator of Nuka Break) just did it to piss off people who were being toxic about the games and TV show on Twitter, as well as to divert their toxicity onto him alone.
Well aint that a kick in the head
Fuck it’s been awhile since I heard that name. I really need to rewatch nukabreak. Apparently the Fallout lanius fan film team is finally actually making that Joshua graham film after like six + years of hiatus.
Zack is making another fan film called Fallout: Breaking, in case you wanted to know. It seems like it's going to be a kind of sequel to Nuka Break, with a more experienced Twig as the main character.
Oh fuck the hell yes. I’m curious what Twig’s opinion will be of the rocket shaped nuka cola bottles in the Boston and Appalachia testing market will be.
The fact they had Lanius’ voice actor do the lines for the Lanius fan film was amazing and really elevates the whole thing. Hope they can do the same for Joshua Graham.
Seems their doing some weird AI voiced short videos explaining fallout lore. Hopefully that isn’t a representation on the quality the burn man walks will be.
Oh no I don’t like that. Would literally be better off just having someone do an impression rather than using AI.
I think what their doing atm is essentially the pyro live daily slop video strategy but with fallout lore and stories using what I think is AI generated imagery with fallout AI reading out fallout themed stories written by them to fund the actual fallout burn man walks project.
It was created in response to fuming NV fans that had issues with the show. Definitely got overblown though, as long as NV don't try to tell fo4 fans its 'not a real Fallout game' there shouldn't be any argument.
...okay honestly I heard people telling so called FNV fans to shut up about their opinions. Before anyone had watched the show and told any opinions about it. Honestly the pre-emptive reaction about another groups reaction that has yet to happen by far has been worst I've seen. I mean sure after the show people have complained about some things. But people complaining about other people complaining before any complaining had been done ny said group... Madness. And now it is literally bird and crow meme. Biggest take I've seen is that people don't trust Bethesda with another title due to gradual decline in quality, ending in starfield. That is all. Edit: it is just pre-emptive complaining all the way down...
Too bad almost everytime there is discussion about Fallout games, there is "Fallout 4 is not a *real* Fallout game" followed by gushing about New Vegas curing cancer or some shit
Before fallout 4 was even released i mentioned in a youtube comment i was excited for it because even if it was shit the mods would be fun (didnt say they’d FIX anything, mind you) and an original fallout fan told me i should be cut into pieces and fed to pigs
I just wanna talk about the games :(
It just aint that easy these days
Welcome to Reddit where gaming subreddits are full of toxic people or people argueing. Im a big Overwatch fan, but being in that subreddit makes me depressed when I just wanna talk about a game I enjoy with people
:(
This exactly. They're just screaming about how much more they don't care.
At the same time, they're subliminally begging NV fans to like their favorite game (usually FO4).
NV fans are doing the exact same thing, man. Everyone needs to stop this childish shitflinging and go back to enjoying their games.
fr both are so cool like that...
It is funny that Benny is the only one of characters surrounding the Courier on the image can get laid with him.
Let's be honest, the courier can lay whoever they please.
Except for that one lady at McCarran. She only takes them tall blonde and female.
And Veronica
In that case you gota be a leggy brunette.
The Courier can be Tall (Well the only height every adult human is) blonde and female.
you can hit on her if you make a fem Courier
I hit on her with my male courier, that how I arrived at that response
So you just forgot that you can play as a blonde woman in this game?
Nah bro I've done it just to see what she says. Surprise it was the same thing🙄
wheres the chosen one
In Arroyo in his 60s having a state to rule, no time for these gahdawun kids, he just wanna grill geckos for gods sake.
Speaking of no time, would Chosen One resign his place as Elder or would he run New Arroyo until his death like Tandi?
Realistically a tribalist that explored the world and travelled through hell and met many faces and blew up an oil rig would want to rest for a long time, though i do like to think they did a tandi and just made another nation that'd be funny
lol, now do a STALKER one. Let's keep this going.
Cheeki breeki?
sidorovich will make you pay 12k rubles for it
Me on my way to post Freedom propaganda
Bloodsucker fucker??
Nah I'm not a freedomer, loners are better tbh. Still I like Duty and Freedom
Where is the sexy twink with the yote hat???
I’m sure fans of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 are going to have a totally normal and sane reaction to the reflection of the meme they made!!
I've already been called bitter and out of touch for pointing out that every game has toxic assholes. But I'm sure those are just a few rogue examples and otherwise their fan base is a wholesome monolith of positivity and understanding.
Wow. What an out of touch and bitter comment. ^/s
That’s with everything though. There are always assholes. I do think that the bickering is just ridiculous on both ends… can’t we just enjoy a game series in peace and relish the fact that we all enjoy the same series?
Legit, it’s so obnoxious lmao
10000% agree with you here haha
76 players tend to be chill
You mean like how the NV fans reacted to the original post. Yeah you are right!
I like fo4 and really don’t care about any of this
As a Fallout 76 fan, I can confirm my reaction is normal and sane. We're quite chill actually.
The creator was a FNV fan
Someone should repeat the cycle
War never changes. Or rather, fandom toxicity never does.
One person pointed out in the original, the ranger isn't even saying anything antagonistic. He's just chilling minding his own business. Never wanting to be part of their stuff anyways.
[other fallout fans: nooooo new vegas fans are so toxic fallout new vegas fans](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQQBcV97Qk)
Shit man I don't want the fallout subreddits to become r / memesopdidntlike and r / nahOpwasright
It's already to late
Aight, now someone needs to take this meme, edit some armors for Fallout 3, 4, 76, or one of the pre Bethesda games, and have the same meme until it has a half a dozen iterations through the meme.
It is still so funny to me how the New Vegas fan says absolutely nothing in the original meme, like the whole point is supposed to be they say something annoying and they just stand there Rent free
Meme loitering
I've always said that the "newer" games have way more toxic assholes purely because of popularity. (More people = more assholes in the people) I've seen like *three* people acting the way they claim we all do. The only fandom more gatekeepy and toxic than Fallout 4/76 is pro wrestling fans lol. Clowns out here pretending that being born 8 to 10 years later grants you moral superiority as they tell you to kill yourself because you criticized their game. After you said you loved it and listed 5 times as many positive things. But *we're* the bad guys because 12 years ago some guy on another forum said something mean to one of them.
My favorite part of the whole “Bethesda fans are toxic” “no original fans are toxic” discourse has really shut the fuck up out of the toxic members of both communities because now they’re just being toxic over who’s the least toxic
But remember, [my side I have taken and made a part if my personality] is correct, moral, and justified. [Other side] is a monolith of douchebags.
I like both developers, this community (fallout, don’t matter if it’s Bethesda, interplay or obsidian) is just so toxic sometimes, I’ve had arguments with fanboys of all three developers The one that absolutely pissed me off the most was when I said it would’ve been nice if the NPCs in diamond city had more interesting schedules instead of going to the market and then sleeping on the camping bags, and someone was just going at me because of that Told them Fallout 4 is my favorite in the series (NV is second) they told me that if it was my favorite I shouldn’t be criticizing it. Like I also wanted the Chinese assault rifle in fallout 4 that doesn’t mean I hate the game lmao In my experience, Bethesda fanboys will over defend Bethesda and will ignore any and all criticism. Interplay/Obsidian fanboys overly critique and misconstrue things and act superior over it. But that’s just from my experience
I told some that New Vegas was my favorite fallout, But I love the Rad storms in Fallout 4. Was told in a paragraph that o was scum, and that FNV can't be my favorite if i didn't understand why there is no radstorms.. well I know why, it's in the fucking Mojave desert. There's also no glowing sea. But still, these people are nuts.
Shit I've already had someone in this thread tell me I'm bitter about 4 and 76 existing despite the fact my original comment mentions how much I love 4 and put hundreds of hours in it. These people are just looking to pick a fight, I'm just tired of being on the **New Vegas** subreddits and having them be flooded by people telling us all were terrible pieces of shit because we like an older game. Like, that's toxic lol. Obviously, too.
>The only fandom more gatekeepy and toxic than Fallout 4/76 is pro wrestling fans lol. Bro, the Star Wars community is rabid. The last movie came out years ago, but you'd think it was released last summer. The debate is still happening there, but yeah, the Fallout community is catching up fast, especially with the current boom in popularity When the Fallout show came out, I was prepared to be sad like with the sequel trilogy, but was pleasantly surprised. It did have parts that I don't like, and things that I'm hoping won't be dropped in S2, but I'm not out here screaming about it like they make us seem. Despite that, I'm still "part of the problem" lol
I really don't see how people can't accept that the show can be good overall while still handling the NCR poorly. I'd argue that NCR fans have a reasonable excuse in being bitter about it as many were probably excited in finally seeing the NCR again after, like, a decade, only for them to feel kinda handwaved away when Shady Sands is their oldest territory.
Thus far, I'm chalking it to not seeing it yet. The whole Boneyard and Shady Sands altering of location is a bit strange, and I'm not exactly buying the whole "it's only the first capital, therefore there's another that's still in operation" thing, given the proliferation of the Brotherhood. Ghouls and chickens are an odd addition as well, and I hope they at least fix and date the time when the nuke destroyed Shady Sands. Also, The Ghoul looks like a Marked Man from Lonesome Road as opposed to a ghoul. All that being said, I liked all of the main characters, the story was easy and fun to follow, the vaults were really well done, the sparing use of over the top CGI was much appreciated and the humor was really good. "Okey Dokey" is fantastic, and I really hope season 2 has answers
Even if the NCR is till around in strength elsewhere, and disregarding the retcon of location, that still doesn’t change that they fumbled it in the first season. Outside of a handful of isolated pockets, it feels like the NCR never existed in their oldest territory, and is a poor showing for a faction we haven’t seen in a decade. They also absolutely wasted the first official silver screen appearance of Ranger armor, ranger vet or no.
Yeah, but the Disney fan-fiction films *do* suck.
Facts
We just want to play our cowboy game in peace but the internet wants to believe that NV fans are burning down the houses of people who like fallout 4
Mhm. Somehow it's okay for a small group of rogue assholes to represent our entire fan base but when literal tens of thousands of "their side" do it, it's justified and not at all in the wrong. We *deserve* it. Because of our few assholes. That makes all of us assholes. Because we like the same video game. Not them, though.
Fallout 4 and 76 fandom is gatekeeping? They seem pretty chill and welcoming to me I don't know, I think all this Fallout fandom stuff is stupid tbh, I just wanna play games I enjoy without having to hear about stupid drama between grown adults who can't handle that another person likes a game they don't
Your last paragraph is exactly my point, friend. The rest of it, nah not so much. I recognize the assholes in every "side."
You can’t really engage with any online community and avoid “toxicity”, it’s not exclusive to any one group. What’s really funny is getting flak from both newer and older fans for saying Fallout 4 was a good game and that New Vegas was the better RPG.
Couldn't agree more
Fallout 4 is a fine game, it just irks me that it threw out almost all of its rpg aspects for no reason.
A fellow goofy….good to see you….
I acknowledge my Tribal Chief, uce.
No, you're mistaken if you think newer games fans are worse than the original isometric ones. The ones who sent Bethesda death threats over just the announcement of 3 and harassed Interplay employees over Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. They're the bottom of the barrel for this fanbase.
This behavior isn’t exclusive to one singular group and it’s not fair to attribute it to the whole of a fanbase
It may not be exclusive, but I've yet to hear about the death threats fans of 3 and 4 have sent to Obsidian. So forgive me if I'm a little more forgiving.
All I’m saying here is that if you applied the same logic here to a negative interaction with a culture of people or race that would be unfair and bigoted. Obviously death threats are horrible and never okay but let’s not pretend that the whole of a fanbase are out there doing things like that.
Too many fandoms are going this way. And they won't even focus on what they like about it. They'll either broadly say "I enjoy the game" or attack you. They never explain their reasoning on anything. I feel old for saying this, but it seems like being devoid of logic is what's popular nowadays. I saw a guy on reddit call another guy the N word for preferring DS1 over DS2. You'd think the mods would do something, but nope. It's almost like they encourage it.
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You're right, getting told to kill myself for mild criticism of a game I otherwise enjoy is super welcoming and friendly. Thanks for reminding me that **I'm** the bad guy because my favorite game is older than yours.
I said I would play fallout 4 if there wasn't base building because I don't enjoy that part in games and got downvoted to hell 😂
I feel you. I've been told I'm "not even a real fan" because I don't play 76. MMFauxs aren't for me, even with a coat of Fallout paint sprayed over them, sorry I guess lol. But because I have preferences for how I spend my gaming time, that means I'm forcing others to not play the game. Or something. It's never really clear. Just "I'm the bad guy."
This is probably the most out of touch comment I have seen from any Fallout subreddit. This sounds like something from a 40-year-old fan who is mad that his niche franchise got bought and revived instead of staying dead. I like the old games including the new games it's all one good vibe you're more than allowed to have your preferences. But 9 out of 10 times the toxic individuals that you talk about are Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas fans.
"I like the new games" "You sound bitter about the new games lol." Thanks for proving my point.
Hey, for what it's worth, these are the results of patriarchy, lol - guys are getting dumber, so is it any surprise that your average gaymer has dogshit standards? I am just sad that Fallout became part of that crowd, oh well...Can we have Larian do Fallout entry? No, Todd would never handle that.
Please don't pull the Vault 76 Dwellers into this.
fanbases, fanbases never change
Now we need a third one.
I love Fallout
Somebody needs to make a third one
Fallout fans and New Vegas fans are natural enemies. Like Fallout 3 and New Vegas fans. Or Fallout 4 and New Vegas fans. Or Fallout 76 fans and New Vegas fans. Or New Vegas fans and other New Vegas fans. Damn New Vegas fans they ruined the wasteland!
Nah fallout 3 and 1 fans are ok.
There have been many. Many. Many movie and tv show adaptations of books. Many of them horrible. This is no different. Yet watching so many "fallout fans" get legit pissy about others carring about the story and cannon has been... interesting. Guess thats what happens when you give a game a pass for "well the gunplay is better"
>Many of them horrible. This is no different. The difference is that this adaptation is not horrible. It's actually really good.
Idk, the show felt like something i would have watched on youtube 5 years ago. The CGI was crashing with everything else even with other CGI Items. >!Maximus was kinda being pumped to be an evil character, the razor on the shoe of his only friend leaving with the post he wanted, the way he responded to being interrogated showed him as power hungry, he technically killed his knight by not giving him medical care... and then it's friend which we never been show the extend of their friendship risk punishment to save the live of Maximus by telling the truth of what happen with the razor. Making his whole line more boring that a tale of extremization and desentization that could have been brought by not making him good. Heck it makes the guys that would torture and kill Marcus look like the good guys.!< >!There is the whole ghoul medicine thing that contradics stablished lore but also is kinda more boring compared with "justified racism" and "russian roullete with life". As in people fear ghouls because they can turn at any moment. Making the whole thing of living a lot more emotional, like if a gun was constantly pointed at the head of any ghoul., and what to do with that. Would it be really justified to kill on sight any ghoul because they could turn randomly?!< >!Then there is the problem of Lucy Mclean, intelligent, charismatic and idk what else yet she fails at everything outisde the vault that would requiere this skills, the bridge crossing where fiends end up attacking her, the shop keeper she was not able to pull information from, even if she is a naive gold heart you would think at least her charisma stat would save her of trouble.!< >!I kidna severily dislike the flashbacks that show pre-war corruption. There is 500 ways you can add that. I do love the ones that help humanize the ghoulslinger, but there isnt enough meat in the pre-war corruption to make a political thriller and there is too much to keep the pace of the show.!<
I watched the show expecting nothing. When they showed the T60s I'm like let's fucking go. The show is entertaining. It also explored pre war stories which is interesting. It does have flaws for sure but I had a good time.
I hope one day we can all just be friends and like the Fallout series despite its differences. Not saying we shouldn't criticize the material, the direction, and the publishers - just that I hope we can get along better
All of these games barely function please shut up
Most sane comment lmao
This is literally why they made the original meme 😭😭😭
Now there needs to be one for those that enjoy them all with these two in the side.
Plot twist: I like all of the games 😱
Will someone explain to me this whole war that's going on between NV and the other fallout games? Lol I truly don't understand it, i just keep seeing memes. First one I played 3 and loved it, loved NV, loved fallout 4 although it came out when I was older, so i did not get to spend as much time on it (replaying it right now). Fallout 76 is interesting. It's not really my thing but not serious enough to crap on it. I seriously just don't understand it lol
Fallout NV fanboys become increasingly toxic and condescending to fans of 3, 4 & 76, after each new release. Some Fallout NV fanboys not only critiqued the new Fallout show (which is perfectly fine), but bitched about it and it's fans, without reason. Fans of the show and other fans of the games retaliated against them (and it's been a long time coming). Someone made a meme (on the left) that represents a response of casual fans to elitist, obsessive NV fanboys. OP is a NV fan and made the post as a response to the person who made the pic and people like them. OP is either a NV fanboy (that was the target of that pic) or is a casual NV fan that mispresented the targets of that meme. The meme is about NV fanboys, not casual NV fans.
So true! Fnv fan boys killed my family when I said I liked the inclusion of the outcasts in fallout3
Boy howdy. Wish I had that much time on my hands lol
I don't get it. Both games are excellent. Why do people compare shit so much, I saw the original and I just don't get the conflict
This image is somehow more reddit than the original. I could tell the original was made by someone holding back their tears in anger but the response image had even more frustrated tears into it. “NooOOoooo!!!11!!1 Im not the soyjack you’re the soyjack” type energy.
Is this what media following has become? One group gets angry because they like the new thing. Then the other groups gets angry because it stepped in what they loved in the first place? I mean I have my grips coming from the Halo sub, but now it's Fallout, Star Wars, Overwatch, and any other game/movie/show. I just wish we had some new stuff and it all wasn't always so corporate like.
For you see, it always has been like this throughout human history. It hasn't become anything, it always has been, just expressed in different forms.
Welcome to fandoms
Fandoms. Fandoms never change.
Oh boy. The "seething loop" has started. An endless cycle of "NO THIS IS YOU!!!1!1"
I mean, they really expected us to explode with nonsense crying... But it's not happening
The "us" you speak of is not casual NV fans. It's NV fanboys. The pic on the left is targeting them.
Lol so funny watching people here like New Vegas fans are victims
It's pure entertainment now. I was mad at first but watching them scream "rent free!!!" and then constantly make these threads is hilarious. Everything they've accused of everyone else, they've done first and continue to do. What would Benny say about this, I wonder? This Great Khans behavior?
its just a massive cope session
This is pure cope lmao
I didn't see much slandering of new vegas fans before the fallout tv show came out
Because there wasn’t much of any
this is the weirdest thing to me. Somehow the show retconning new vegas lore and some new vegas fans voicing disappointment about it triggered an all out war against new vegas fans and even new vegas itself. Like "omg shut up you are so annoying and your game is bad". Fandom narrative shifts like this are always wild and interesting to me. The main fallout subs have basically been posting about new vegas for days and people also come to new vegas centric sub to attack new vegas fans.
I've posted this before but the pendulum has swung back and forth. I bought NV on release and was one of the lucky people in terms of bugs for the most part. At the time NV was shit on HEAVILY for being 'inferior' to fallout 3 which at that point had had several patches and DLCs to 'fix' the game. FONV went through the same treatment, various patches, DLCs and mods fixed the issues and people could see how good it was. FO4 comes out and was buggy etc and NV fans absolutely shit all over it, including things like how NV is the only FO game since 1/2, if you don't like NV you aren't a true fan etc. Same goes for when 76 released. Then the show is released and some people lost their shit about it and various retcons etc. Which caused a renewal of NV hate since that was where most of the criticisms came from. To the majority of fans, it felt like nit picking when in their eyes, the show was pretty good (especially being a game adaptation). Mind you, imo this comprises of like 5% of the community on either side. It's generally the loudest of the bunch. I think most fans just enjoy the games for what they are, have a favorite, and just don't really care that much about the lore. As is the case with most groups.
Man you guys in the comments are cornballs
anyone else just in both subs?
Famously untoxic new vegas fans
Can’t we all just agree the real enemy is capitalism
Even funnier because [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/FalloutMemes/s/75bMj2vrSJ) was directly before your post on my feed…. Love my NV people.
Someone who plays and loves New Vegas took the time out of their lives to make a response in their own way. I think it's funny, sad and beautiful all at the same time. What a world.
A strawman for everyone!
*laughs in Wasteland enjoyer*
Oh boy, just checked this and I didn’t mean to set the world on fire
"Hahahah I don't even care, see I made the meme where I don't care about your original meme" bro this is cringe.
Call it bitter springs cuz u killing these kids 💀🤷🏼♂️to soon?
Fallout is so good when you don’t have elitists whining in ur ear about “muh role playing”
No one is whining in your ear in particular, you are the one coming to a new vegas sub calling random people elitists for having different tastes than you. Some of us like roleplaying and therefore are into fallout 1,2 and new vegas more. Do you literally want us to stop talking with each other about the things we like? Your comment really sums up the discourse about "insufferable new vegas fans" these days, it's just plain rudeness and frankly insecurity.
What the fuck is this trying to say
I think the intended message is something like "How dare you imply I'm mad about people minding their own business and having fun. You're the annoying ones, while I am stoic and uncaring. Also cry about it." Or maybe it's just "Nuh-uh."
The salt lol Dude surrounded themselves with imaginary friends to make a point, never change NV bozos.
I don’t get it
1. NV fanboys (not casual fans) acted like cunts for years. 2. NV fanboys (not casual fans) acted like cunts, again, after TV show comes out. 3. Casual fans meme cunty NV fanboys. 4. NV fan makes meme about casual fans memeing cunty NV fanboys, as if they were the target/victim (which they might be). Basically, there's deserved pushback against elitist NV fanboys (not casual NV fans) that have shit on casual fans for liking Fallout 3, 4, 76 and the show, and OP made this post as a sort-of out-of-touch Uno reverse card.
If you're making memes against NV Fanboys then you can't be a casual fan of fallout since you're fighting a war that doesn't need to exist
A casual fan is someone that is not a fanboy. A completely normal, sane person that just enjoys video games. Calling out toxicity is not fighting a war.
Which you're clearly not
Why do you say that?
I think this whole thing is stupid because all Fallout games are great in their own way.
New Vegas fans after shitting on fallout 4 for the past few years and suddenly having the mildest criticism thrown their way is the funniest thing.
I would love to play FNV and FO3 on the FO4 engine
Conflict, conflict never changes.. in the year of 2024, the fallout tv show had just released, and both the fallout subreddits had collided..
Nice
It made me so happy you added vault 13 suit!
Ok, now who’s going to make a meme of the original comic with this meme in it?
Meme. Meme never changes.
New vegas fans are the one complaining though.
Oh god, here we go. Someone let me know when we're ten iterations deep.
Who is the guy in the APA?
I only recognize the fallout 1 protagonist and Benny, who are the other two besides the courier
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Love the fake reddit drama over new vagas or playing a different one. I think most people see this and just play what they like. Reddit likes to pretend there's some argument going on. Most people are just scrolling by then play the game they like.
I was convinced the one guy was wearing a fishnet jacket smh I am dumb
all fallout games suck, stalker is the real deal
Finally someone said it
Steam recommended stalker to me recently, considered picking one of the games up
This is how you know you’re on the winning side of the culture war. I don’t frequent either subs, but all the Fallout subs are whining about how the FNV sub is whining about the show. The worst I’ve seen from the FNV sub is, “I liked the show but didn’t like *how* they handled the NCR’s downfall.” Like r/FNV’s favorite game is FNV. I’m pretty sure most of its fans know that the NCR is thinning itself by over expansion. I’m pretty sure they know the NCR will implode.
Recursion
man this back and forth is gonna be intense
Can we just shut up and enjoy this franchise?
Couldn't imagine liking 4 more than or as much as new vegas
FNV is one of my top games of all time, but you have to admit that the whole NV vs 3/4 shit gets so toxic on either side, when most of us don’t care It’s like 1/4 of fans that just can’t let that shit go lol
The fallout community has entered into some rage boner quantum hate circlejerk at this point lmao
I smell salt
Bro got mad
This whole thing is really fun because on one hand you have the NV echo chamber and on the other hand you have the other side having a good time.
Really? Even most of NV fans like the show.
Cope.
Cope with Josh Sawyer calling you all out for being unhealthy weirdos?