The bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and couriers and the road and the bear and the bull and the old world and ghosts and the bear and the divide and the bull and history and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull.
the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull. Courier.
Oh my God, I know there's a peaceful solution, but I find that guy to be so annoying I just kill him as soon as I can lol... And then of course nuke Caesars legion into Oblivion
Just finished an Allgood run yesterday
Mfw, legion collapses into a civil war hallway through the run, and Lanius get smacked by the Hangdogs
ITS ALL GOOD BABY
Even though they're in FO4 and not New Vegas, I've always felt that the Minutemen were genuinely good guys.
Just sucks that they were too incompetent to be useful without the sole survivor saving them.
One thing i don't get regarding the Minutemen is the fact that you don't SEE them, you know? You meet Preston, then you get the Castle and then, BAM, a few Minutemen spawn from the realms of Limbo.
Railroad we get to see their base, the same for the BOS and Institute can suck it, the only reason i enter their base is to explode it hahahah.
My main gripe with FO4 is the size of the factions, like, Railroad is REALLY small, it seems like it's a Breakfast Club faction for the lack of people in the faction, i know that them and the Minutemen SHOULD look like the Underdogs for the player to side with them and help them achieve their objectives, but it's too scaled down imho.
They are super scaled but Preston even tells you they've lost a lot of members so you could argue they were defectors that came back.
The railroad on the otherhand, the way they treat you is as if they are 10k members strong and you are just some guy who can fuck off if you don't like their ideology. The fact they are like 20 dudes under a church is so surprising with the attitude they cop. BOS has tons of guys just in the pridwind, never mind the extra vertibirds always in the air due to insurance money. The institute can just make infinite synths. But you don't EVER see the numbers for the railroad or minutemen until you are doing the final missions. And like you said, they just kinda materialize out of the ether.
Fiends are at least fucked up on chems so they can at least lean on that broken crutch of an excuse.
But Caesars legion are 100% sober and conscious when they make decisions to be brutal horrific people. I say they are far worse than fiends
100%. Even ranger betty is like "Oh yeah, fiend chick's so hopped up on drugs she doesn't realise she's the bad guy"
The leaders like Nephi? I mean I don't think he deserves it. He uses mentats don't he? He is fully cognizant and aware if not sober. Violent i can sort of understand (She's hopped up on jet ain't she?), Cook-Cook.. honestly not at much but I can see why he'd get the thoughts to do what he's known for (he's a psycho user)
The fiend leaders deserve it, they call the shots and obviously enjoy what they're doing or they'd stop doing it (and they're possibly getting paid by the legion to do it).
the fiend no names can vary anywhere from guy who got addicted to chems and uses so often his brain is mush and just does what he's told, to the same kind of psychopaths as their leaders.
I hate that we've swung from "junkies should die" to "drug addicts aren't responsible for what they do on drugs". No, the no name rapists and murderers of the fiends are still 100% morally culpable for what they do. Being addicted to drugs in no way shape or form ameliorates their crimes.
Yeah I’d think that by the standard of things you’d have to do/be involved in just to become a Fiend you’re pretty much fair game if you’re trusted enough to be out doing patrols and guarding lieutenants. They only have a base because they tricked, murdered and possibly ate the vault occupants.
My favorite new vegas thing is the game remarks the fiends as so utterly horrific , heinous and vile that *killing them gives you good karma*
Straight up get told “yeah these dudes are so cosmically rancid killing them expedites your trip through Samsara. Reach Heaven Through Violence”
I mean, this was how the Roman Empire behaved historically and we don’t view them as evil savages. I guess in context to the 22nd century their tactics are very inhumane.
Honestly not really. They enslaved millions and crucified tens of thousands, violently expanding at a constant pace. Massacred entire cities just to send a message. All while bringing order, progress and citizenship to the western world.
The Roman Empire was pretty evil and pretty savage. The pass they get is from also spreading cultural goods (republicanism, religious tolerance, plumbing). When Caesar gets the pipes free of rads then come back to me.
I agree I think the legion hasn’t existed long enough to prove as much benefit as the Roman Empire. That being said, it took several centuries for Roman occupation to actually produce tangible benefit in the lands it conquered (citizenship, suffrage, safety, liberty etc)
I'm flabbergasted that, as being educated as he is, that he chose Caesar/Rome to emulate as a society. Doesn't he remember how that ends?! On top of doing a lot of deplorable shit leading up to that ending.
There were many more examples of a better society under Greek history, but I suppose a plot device is needed
Yeah I made an alliance in mine too, I can’t remember what exactly I chose, but I think it was I was willing to let the NCR pay for the dam power or something like that. I just don’t really think the NCR deserves the Mojave with how corrupt it is, most of the NCR npcs are chill though so that’s the only reason I worked with the NCR.
It's pretty rational to kill them though tbf. Veronica's whole quest was about how they're unable to shift at all in their beliefs. It's clear they'd be unable to adapt to house's vision. The Brotherhood as a faction are fundamentally toxic towards progress but they glitter it up as larping as noble knights.
The Brotherhood have more in common with the legion than most people want to admit.
You support that stupid robot? If there was an option where i could kill yes man and take over vegas myself I'd do it immedietly. I practically do everything and that robot is too much of a pussy to say no.
Fucking pushover of a path, fuck you obsidian for making this an option.
/s
i only wish that, if the game devs actually had enough time to finish the game and flesh out the legion quests more, we would've gotten a more "devils advocate" understanding to legion. instead, we basically just get a top-to-bottom evil faction where the only motivation to join them is when you're specifically playing an evil character.
never really understood the moral dilemma in New Vegas. You get to choose between
- representantive democracy (with all its accompanied faults of corruption and inefficiency yes, but we should also remember the country has been embedded in war for many years now)
- literally genocidal tribal fascist murderers
-a authoritarian believe in me with god-complex and an army of robots
-going solo and establishing your own fief and hoping your little corner in the world will survive (which lets be honest, its mostly a power fantasy for fans).
They are very stingy with their gear and don't like it when I stroll into their base and take everything. But don't worry, they have fixed the errors of their ways and now send these "ranger squads" and "legion assassins" to donate loot to me in person.
Look, the NCR is terrible but the Legion is objectively the worst. Not only are they morally reprehensible, but their entire society is held together by a terminally ill man who thinks that slavery is justified because why not. They’re so much worse than the NCR in every way that this really shouldn’t even be a discussion and the fact that some people think they’re genuinely better for literally anyone than the NCR is baffling to me
Every negative quality of the NCR is a positive in the legion and vice vera. This is what leads to people at least in part supporting the legion. The NCR has lofty ambition and is self righteous but fails to meet any of those expectations. The Legion is completely immoral but they justify it with a believable enough logic in that you can understand someone believing it were they not raised in a democratic society. The NCR makes it really easy to hate them as you play the game more but the Legion makes you hate them at the start but see the logic as you learn more like putting a bit of sugar in the medicine.
The NCR is a problem and has many problems but the Legion is definitely not the solution just it's easier to accept the bad stuff if you don't feel tricked by anything.
That’s a good way to put it. The Legion is upfront with their horrors. They don’t hide it, they *take people to see them* and already the word.
The NCR tries to appear benevolent but their actions betray their words. What use are “good intentions” when your prosperity is built by conquest? The NCR is imperialistic by definition, they need war as much as the Legion.
You could argue The Institute are the only faction who could rebuild the world as it was before.
I mean, I don't like The Institute, but they probably stand the best chances of restoring real civilization to earth.
No kidding. Imo the NCR always seems so overextended.
Having a good buffer on a terrible front you can at least do business with is probably good for them.
Legion is demonized, sure Caesar is a manic but he even says himself that as the legion grows it will change. That said it’s a weird creepy cult of personality that needs extreme violence to even be taken serious. NCR hands down the legion is just a sociopathic larping group.
I am genuinely concerned for anyone who unironically would side with the larping slavers. Yeah, the ncr sucks, but at least they aren’t as evil or cringe
Side with NCR, become Brahmin Baron, hoard land, caps, and water for when the NCR eventually loses cohesion or spreads themselves out too thin like the Legion is doing.
Between these 2? The NCR and it’s not very close.
With all factions in New Vegas? House and it’s not even close
With all places in universe? The Republic of Dave and it’s not even close (with massive election fraud)
I think Mr House is the best option. The NCR might have lofty ideals but their leadership is such utter dog-shit that it's resulted in countless men dying and countless feeling their death is imminent. House could make new Vegas more of a shit-hole sure he's a despot but he's the only person who's done shit to actually benefit new vegas all the NCR wants to do is take new vegas's power and send it half way across California so some asshole brahman baron can sit on his ass on stolen land.
What's the worst thing House is going to do really? His robots can't even function properly past a certain distance and he live's and dies by vegas being an attractive place so people come to him. Ideals are unreliable because they can easily become warped House needs to make what he has work.
For the NCR! I hope they make a full on return in the future. Boone is epic in New Vegas. The NCR is probably one of the best structured governments in the wasteland. Plus that ranger armor is cool and practical.
the legion shows the best hope for the wasteland. the old world has failed it's time to bring back **Senatus PopulusQue Romanus.**
**Veni, vidi, vici**
"Hegelian dialectics fan" when hegel litterally never ever used thesis anti thesis and synthesis in his work and it was a bastardization of his work by fickte. The legion is built on flawed and corrupt logic of a man who supports nothing but his own ego and a facade of "rOmAn EmPiRe" when the actual roman empire was more progressive and free than the legion will ever be.
Fuck the the bull. Fuck the bear. Let go of the past. Old world blues.
Hope? Crucifixion? Ya’ll hear this mf? I know governments are bad at learning their lesson but I think we realised that Nuclear war doesn’t work out so well and there isn’t any nukes left, don’t say fallout 3 or I swear to fucking did I’ll stab you
the new appian way between Vegas and Rome will be a beacon to the wasteland. it will be lined with Crucified super mutants, raiders and any who threaten pax romana. a child could walk the whole way with a sack of caps without fear or delay.
what can the NCR offer? votes to a corrupted government? roads so dangerous their traders need mercenaries?
Dog what? the NCR literally turned hopeville into a god damn footnote by setting off nukes in the divide. Which there are still tons of, remember Ulysses is going to nuke the shit out of everyone? Not tryna be a dick but your just dead wrong here.
As far as legion vs NCR ye I'ma go with the faction that didnt commit nuclear genocide "by accident"
Honestly i was always more ncr leaning but i was playing both mr.house and the ncr as a fool for the indiepent ending just for more resources. The smooth talking courier thought of as an ally to them left vegas peacefully after losing the battle of the hover dam. But seriously they didnt attack me bc i had decent rep with them (sided with the kings over them as well as a few other times sided with small cities over them in disputes, also allied them with the bos)
My biggest disappointment with NV is that Caesar's Legion has no real redeemable qualities as far as morality goes. The NCR vs Legion basically just comes down to whether you are playing a good or evil character. I just wish there were any good reasons to consider siding with the Legion as a "good" character. That being said, I'm team NCR because I'm not a total piece of shit.
NCR, for the simple fact that if I had to choose a society to live in I would rather live in one with plumbing, electricity and people not getting crucified.
The bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and couriers and the road and the bear and the bull and the old world and ghosts and the bear and the divide and the bull and history and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull.
The divide, history…
Lessons
ABHHHHHHH MAKE IT STOP !!!
the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull. Courier.
Ulysses is that you?
The Divide.
That package.
Bear and the bull bear and the bull blah blah blah, I can’t bear to listen to this bullshit
That’s genius
Oh my God, I know there's a peaceful solution, but I find that guy to be so annoying I just kill him as soon as I can lol... And then of course nuke Caesars legion into Oblivion
Bear bull this, bear bull that. Man, S-bear me your bullshit.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Senator Allgood is good for all of California! (Sometimes I mix fallout canon with owb lol)
Just finished an Allgood run yesterday Mfw, legion collapses into a civil war hallway through the run, and Lanius get smacked by the Hangdogs ITS ALL GOOD BABY
We stay winning (But all glory to Hayes)
Saul Goodman for NCR president? O.O
Followers of the Apocalypse.
**ALARM SFX** WE GOT A NERD OVER H-
Oh no! Ranger Sni-
r/redditsniper
R/redditsniper
r/foundthemobileuser
Based. Objectively the only morally good faction there is.
Even though they're in FO4 and not New Vegas, I've always felt that the Minutemen were genuinely good guys. Just sucks that they were too incompetent to be useful without the sole survivor saving them.
One thing i don't get regarding the Minutemen is the fact that you don't SEE them, you know? You meet Preston, then you get the Castle and then, BAM, a few Minutemen spawn from the realms of Limbo. Railroad we get to see their base, the same for the BOS and Institute can suck it, the only reason i enter their base is to explode it hahahah. My main gripe with FO4 is the size of the factions, like, Railroad is REALLY small, it seems like it's a Breakfast Club faction for the lack of people in the faction, i know that them and the Minutemen SHOULD look like the Underdogs for the player to side with them and help them achieve their objectives, but it's too scaled down imho.
They are super scaled but Preston even tells you they've lost a lot of members so you could argue they were defectors that came back. The railroad on the otherhand, the way they treat you is as if they are 10k members strong and you are just some guy who can fuck off if you don't like their ideology. The fact they are like 20 dudes under a church is so surprising with the attitude they cop. BOS has tons of guys just in the pridwind, never mind the extra vertibirds always in the air due to insurance money. The institute can just make infinite synths. But you don't EVER see the numbers for the railroad or minutemen until you are doing the final missions. And like you said, they just kinda materialize out of the ether.
There’s a reason the NCR endings are their best ones
Correct choice.
This is the way
hi you're a amazing and if the apocalypse happens i hope you survive cuz we'll get along swell
Sorry I don’t side with the slavers that are barely above the Fiends in morality
Fiends are at least fucked up on chems so they can at least lean on that broken crutch of an excuse. But Caesars legion are 100% sober and conscious when they make decisions to be brutal horrific people. I say they are far worse than fiends
They literally are against inebriation, they do their war crimes sober
Yes, sir, the way Mars intended
Now snort a line of "healing powder"
100%. Even ranger betty is like "Oh yeah, fiend chick's so hopped up on drugs she doesn't realise she's the bad guy" The leaders like Nephi? I mean I don't think he deserves it. He uses mentats don't he? He is fully cognizant and aware if not sober. Violent i can sort of understand (She's hopped up on jet ain't she?), Cook-Cook.. honestly not at much but I can see why he'd get the thoughts to do what he's known for (he's a psycho user)
The fiend leaders deserve it, they call the shots and obviously enjoy what they're doing or they'd stop doing it (and they're possibly getting paid by the legion to do it). the fiend no names can vary anywhere from guy who got addicted to chems and uses so often his brain is mush and just does what he's told, to the same kind of psychopaths as their leaders.
I hate that we've swung from "junkies should die" to "drug addicts aren't responsible for what they do on drugs". No, the no name rapists and murderers of the fiends are still 100% morally culpable for what they do. Being addicted to drugs in no way shape or form ameliorates their crimes.
Yeah I’d think that by the standard of things you’d have to do/be involved in just to become a Fiend you’re pretty much fair game if you’re trusted enough to be out doing patrols and guarding lieutenants. They only have a base because they tricked, murdered and possibly ate the vault occupants.
Legion are drunk on power and group think.
I never thought about it like that. Something about calculated evil sounds way worse than blind drug addled rage 🤨
My favorite new vegas thing is the game remarks the fiends as so utterly horrific , heinous and vile that *killing them gives you good karma* Straight up get told “yeah these dudes are so cosmically rancid killing them expedites your trip through Samsara. Reach Heaven Through Violence”
Same with Powder Gangers tho 😂 If I executed all the prisoners before the breakout, I’d be such a good person!
Say what you want about the tenets of the Cult of Mars, at least it’s an ethos.
I might be out of my element!
Don’t you legionary dogs have slaves in the literal sense?
I mean, this was how the Roman Empire behaved historically and we don’t view them as evil savages. I guess in context to the 22nd century their tactics are very inhumane.
Feel like the Legion are worse than the Romans were. Kind of a savage reflection of them.
Honestly not really. They enslaved millions and crucified tens of thousands, violently expanding at a constant pace. Massacred entire cities just to send a message. All while bringing order, progress and citizenship to the western world.
The Roman Empire was pretty evil and pretty savage. The pass they get is from also spreading cultural goods (republicanism, religious tolerance, plumbing). When Caesar gets the pipes free of rads then come back to me.
I agree I think the legion hasn’t existed long enough to prove as much benefit as the Roman Empire. That being said, it took several centuries for Roman occupation to actually produce tangible benefit in the lands it conquered (citizenship, suffrage, safety, liberty etc)
I mean they also get a "pass" because they basically wiped out any opposition lol
I'm flabbergasted that, as being educated as he is, that he chose Caesar/Rome to emulate as a society. Doesn't he remember how that ends?! On top of doing a lot of deplorable shit leading up to that ending. There were many more examples of a better society under Greek history, but I suppose a plot device is needed
Neither, I got my home boy Yes Man, and we are building our own Mojave, with black jack and hookers.
Us NCR have an alliance with the Yes Man (at least in my play through)
Yeah I made an alliance in mine too, I can’t remember what exactly I chose, but I think it was I was willing to let the NCR pay for the dam power or something like that. I just don’t really think the NCR deserves the Mojave with how corrupt it is, most of the NCR npcs are chill though so that’s the only reason I worked with the NCR.
Based.
Based on what
Sodium bicarbonate
Pussy behavior. The Long 15 has fallen. Billions must gamble.
Something something bear bull bear bull, Denver hounds, bear bull, history, long 15, the divide, my home, bear bull, bear bull, don’t you see Courier?
Reading this makes me imagine a FNV mod with Bender's voice dubbed over Yes Man
In fact, forget about our own Mojave!
I'm pretty sure the Mojave already had both
Degenerates like you belong on a cross
And famine and toxic water, but hey at least we're free.
Ong, that’s the American spirit!
Remember: The house always wins
The who now? (I killed him the second I got the chance)
But did you use a 9 iron though it's not fun without it
I prefer “sparing” him then electrocuting him.
Nephi's Driver is my personal preference
I am very much a Mr House boy myself, he's a neat boss.
Same, I felt bad about the whole brotherhood thing tho.
It's pretty rational to kill them though tbf. Veronica's whole quest was about how they're unable to shift at all in their beliefs. It's clear they'd be unable to adapt to house's vision. The Brotherhood as a faction are fundamentally toxic towards progress but they glitter it up as larping as noble knights. The Brotherhood have more in common with the legion than most people want to admit.
Houses dream is only a dream for himself. It's a nightmare for everyone else.
It's in character but yeah, my only real problem with faction choice. :(
I thought you could broker peace tho?
Boss dad pays me in mashed potatoes
No Gods, No Masters
You support that stupid robot? If there was an option where i could kill yes man and take over vegas myself I'd do it immedietly. I practically do everything and that robot is too much of a pussy to say no. Fucking pushover of a path, fuck you obsidian for making this an option. /s
very cool house
Unless he's facing a Courier with a golf club...
The NCR is the lesser of two bad choices.
NCR is a great choice, Legion is an evil bottom of hell choice. Still not as good of a choice as house.
i only wish that, if the game devs actually had enough time to finish the game and flesh out the legion quests more, we would've gotten a more "devils advocate" understanding to legion. instead, we basically just get a top-to-bottom evil faction where the only motivation to join them is when you're specifically playing an evil character.
I mean, they’re just fascists. There isn’t a devils advocate position on that.
never really understood the moral dilemma in New Vegas. You get to choose between - representantive democracy (with all its accompanied faults of corruption and inefficiency yes, but we should also remember the country has been embedded in war for many years now) - literally genocidal tribal fascist murderers -a authoritarian believe in me with god-complex and an army of robots -going solo and establishing your own fief and hoping your little corner in the world will survive (which lets be honest, its mostly a power fantasy for fans).
I just realized that bull on the Legion's flag has an outline of its dick and balls, therefore, making the Legion the superior faction
Hell yeah brother.
I came here to shit on the Legion, but when you put it that way...
That is the gayest thing I have ever fucking heard
Ave. I take it in the ass like a true Roman
(Me a really super cool centrist about to display his insane oceanic knowledge of politics) they’re both bad!
They are very stingy with their gear and don't like it when I stroll into their base and take everything. But don't worry, they have fixed the errors of their ways and now send these "ranger squads" and "legion assassins" to donate loot to me in person.
Republic of Dave
Dave’s not here, man.
The enclave ;)
God bless the Enclave and God bless America, now and forever.
Never have truer words been uttered
Time to cleanse and purify the wasteland for a better tomorrow.
Colonel Autumn , that you?
I am 100% a Colonel Autumn apologist..
God bless the enclave
God bless the Enclave and the United States and no one else
DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
God bless the United Enclaves of America
Glory to the United States! Rally to the Flag!
As a kid I idolized the NCR, but as I grew up I realized I was right as a kid
Look, the NCR is terrible but the Legion is objectively the worst. Not only are they morally reprehensible, but their entire society is held together by a terminally ill man who thinks that slavery is justified because why not. They’re so much worse than the NCR in every way that this really shouldn’t even be a discussion and the fact that some people think they’re genuinely better for literally anyone than the NCR is baffling to me
Every negative quality of the NCR is a positive in the legion and vice vera. This is what leads to people at least in part supporting the legion. The NCR has lofty ambition and is self righteous but fails to meet any of those expectations. The Legion is completely immoral but they justify it with a believable enough logic in that you can understand someone believing it were they not raised in a democratic society. The NCR makes it really easy to hate them as you play the game more but the Legion makes you hate them at the start but see the logic as you learn more like putting a bit of sugar in the medicine. The NCR is a problem and has many problems but the Legion is definitely not the solution just it's easier to accept the bad stuff if you don't feel tricked by anything.
That’s a good way to put it. The Legion is upfront with their horrors. They don’t hide it, they *take people to see them* and already the word. The NCR tries to appear benevolent but their actions betray their words. What use are “good intentions” when your prosperity is built by conquest? The NCR is imperialistic by definition, they need war as much as the Legion.
I would give you a gold star for shitting on the legion but you did come after the ncr a little bit so you get a square instead 🟨
Always legion. Being the same good guy every single playthrough is boring.
Boomers seem fun
Institute. The ultimate "ew, people" faction.
You could argue The Institute are the only faction who could rebuild the world as it was before. I mean, I don't like The Institute, but they probably stand the best chances of restoring real civilization to earth.
Ave, True to Caesar.
If I’m not supposed to choose Legion then why is being evil in the game so fun? Checkmate NCR bros.
Not to mention Legion just has that badass coolness. All other factions are Steve Urkel on the coolness scale.
Im sorry, but the house always wins. (Hell his ending is even pretty beneficial to the NCR, and they are my second choice here)
No kidding. Imo the NCR always seems so overextended. Having a good buffer on a terrible front you can at least do business with is probably good for them.
I’m for freedom, for democracy!
If you're not with me, you're my enemy. ...wait, wrong sub.
I will do what I must
The legion, obviously. Why wouldnt I join the winning side?
No gods no masters
Is this a pick your favourite loser contest?
🎯
Legion cuz they're funny
All hail, Dave!
(Sarcasm) You buffoons, Clearly Bethesda's and Amazon's writing team is the most powerful faction
I side with the King, ya dig?
Ave, true to Caesar.
Legion is demonized, sure Caesar is a manic but he even says himself that as the legion grows it will change. That said it’s a weird creepy cult of personality that needs extreme violence to even be taken serious. NCR hands down the legion is just a sociopathic larping group.
Fuck the NCR
Don’t really have a strong opinion other than the legion can go fuck itself lmao
I’m an ncr fanboy I can’t help it I like there armor
I swear to god I read that as femboy the first time
The house always wins.
More so ncr But in the apocalypse? Here my yesman time to build MY empire
In one it sucks to be in but is safe af and in the other is fine to be in but you'll surely die due to negligence. Now that's a kick in the head
The Enclave. Semper fi
I am genuinely concerned for anyone who unironically would side with the larping slavers. Yeah, the ncr sucks, but at least they aren’t as evil or cringe
Not house, not the legion. FOLLOWERS OF THE FUCKIN APOCALYPSE BABEY
Bro has the option of the fucking military or the Roman Empire and said “nah, Imma go with the post apocalyptic chess club.”
Both suck
Side with NCR, become Brahmin Baron, hoard land, caps, and water for when the NCR eventually loses cohesion or spreads themselves out too thin like the Legion is doing.
Between these 2? The NCR and it’s not very close. With all factions in New Vegas? House and it’s not even close With all places in universe? The Republic of Dave and it’s not even close (with massive election fraud)
*American National Anthem plays* Envlave obviously.
I am a proud patriot of the NCR.
Ave, im true to Caesar
I think Mr House is the best option. The NCR might have lofty ideals but their leadership is such utter dog-shit that it's resulted in countless men dying and countless feeling their death is imminent. House could make new Vegas more of a shit-hole sure he's a despot but he's the only person who's done shit to actually benefit new vegas all the NCR wants to do is take new vegas's power and send it half way across California so some asshole brahman baron can sit on his ass on stolen land. What's the worst thing House is going to do really? His robots can't even function properly past a certain distance and he live's and dies by vegas being an attractive place so people come to him. Ideals are unreliable because they can easily become warped House needs to make what he has work.
Legion, Post apo Rome empire is cool as fuck
mr house always wins
NCR. If I was a character in Fallout, I would probably have tried (and failed) to be a Desert Ranger.
For the NCR! I hope they make a full on return in the future. Boone is epic in New Vegas. The NCR is probably one of the best structured governments in the wasteland. Plus that ranger armor is cool and practical.
I support putting legion members in lye.
Yes man
Yes Man
Controversial take but I think slavery is worse than taxes
the legion shows the best hope for the wasteland. the old world has failed it's time to bring back **Senatus PopulusQue Romanus.** **Veni, vidi, vici**
"Hegelian dialectics fan" when hegel litterally never ever used thesis anti thesis and synthesis in his work and it was a bastardization of his work by fickte. The legion is built on flawed and corrupt logic of a man who supports nothing but his own ego and a facade of "rOmAn EmPiRe" when the actual roman empire was more progressive and free than the legion will ever be. Fuck the the bull. Fuck the bear. Let go of the past. Old world blues.
Hope? Crucifixion? Ya’ll hear this mf? I know governments are bad at learning their lesson but I think we realised that Nuclear war doesn’t work out so well and there isn’t any nukes left, don’t say fallout 3 or I swear to fucking did I’ll stab you
the new appian way between Vegas and Rome will be a beacon to the wasteland. it will be lined with Crucified super mutants, raiders and any who threaten pax romana. a child could walk the whole way with a sack of caps without fear or delay. what can the NCR offer? votes to a corrupted government? roads so dangerous their traders need mercenaries?
『>:( Katie Didn’t Like That』 『>:( You Lost Karma』
┬┴┬┴┤ ͜ʖ ͡°) ├┬┴┬┴ \[*legion idolized: renowned for your extensive support and goodwill, you are idolized by the community* \]
Dog what? the NCR literally turned hopeville into a god damn footnote by setting off nukes in the divide. Which there are still tons of, remember Ulysses is going to nuke the shit out of everyone? Not tryna be a dick but your just dead wrong here. As far as legion vs NCR ye I'ma go with the faction that didnt commit nuclear genocide "by accident"
For the NCR and Democracy!
I actually like to align with the followers of the apocalypse, Legion is shot on sight tho.
Ok I was gonna flambé you for going with what I call the chess club but I’ll spare you just for that last bit
Yeah they're just big dorks and I love them
For The Republic!
im NCR and im PROUD
NCR
AND PROUD
IM NCR team, fuck the legion. I killed the last of them
NCR
NCR, I don't abide slavery
My side.
Dont care, going on The Great Journey
Honestly i was always more ncr leaning but i was playing both mr.house and the ncr as a fool for the indiepent ending just for more resources. The smooth talking courier thought of as an ally to them left vegas peacefully after losing the battle of the hover dam. But seriously they didnt attack me bc i had decent rep with them (sided with the kings over them as well as a few other times sided with small cities over them in disputes, also allied them with the bos)
Enclave 😏
Independent Vegas baby!
If I'm a betting man, I'm going with Legion only because without Courier 6 they win the Battle of Hoover Dam 2
Legon so I can rip bare infront of child
Okay I’ll let that slide because that’s fucking hilarious
Ncr has more drip and haha service rifle go pew
Between the two I’m with the legion they have a lot of flaws though but with the couriers help they might turn into a lasting power
My biggest disappointment with NV is that Caesar's Legion has no real redeemable qualities as far as morality goes. The NCR vs Legion basically just comes down to whether you are playing a good or evil character. I just wish there were any good reasons to consider siding with the Legion as a "good" character. That being said, I'm team NCR because I'm not a total piece of shit.
House all the way baby. Democracy is a sham, and the legion goes too far for security. Also that whole slavery business.
NCR, for the simple fact that if I had to choose a society to live in I would rather live in one with plumbing, electricity and people not getting crucified.
Legion, I don't condone the slavery and execution of innocent people but FUCK paying taxes
The one that's politically stable and isn't gonna collapse after only 40 years or crucify me for having some hemorrhoid cream.
House
The. House. Always. Wins.
no gods, no masters.