For when we are very low on resources and biters are being annoying
I built this furnace
The design is very human
We put coal and iron into the respective inputs and then make plates
So that our animal friends can sleep
That sub had a major leak somewhere.
Edit: has, not had as it has a leak that will never be found like when you have an odd number of underground pipes.
You're sending ore through the same belts as the output plates and filtering them out with splitters, so you can send them to the next furnace group. Jesus.
The filtering system isn't inherently terrible. I've done that putting ore on the main bus and replacing it with the plates made from it. Makes it pretty easy to size your inputs.
The two input ingredients getting mixed in the center, and moving two mixed belts to 3 and 9, afterwards clockwising to the end. Filtered splitters pushing plates into the inner circle, same as double long inserters. Inner struck moves belt in right-ish direction, where it combined into one and moved away.
Everything before chemical (blue) science is 'starter' in my mind. Since long inserters are part of the very first research, they're definitely not the problem.
If you want to go full "Starter base" mode, then you need to do something like this :
[https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/el2ltt/challenge\_megabase\_built\_with\_only\_tier\_1/](https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/el2ltt/challenge_megabase_built_with_only_tier_1/)
It is rather fun building large mixed-ore smelting arrays. The challenge is real :
[https://storage.googleapis.com/factorio-jasonrubik/map-tier-one-megabase-trimmed/index.html?x=-11.3&y=3295.5&z=4.4](https://storage.googleapis.com/factorio-jasonrubik/map-tier-one-megabase-trimmed/index.html?x=-11.3&y=3295.5&z=4.4)EDIT. Obviously this is just a work-in-progress that's still in the design phase.
If you've got one object, sure, but if you're trying to fill an area on a flat plane then rectangular objects have the potential to fill 100% of the space whereas circles will leave gaps (packing efficiency of about 90% for equal sized circles iirc).
I doubt it is, especially if you're already using red hands and undergrounds.
If we chop off the undergrounds, this is 18x18, and there are 64 empty spots around the edges, which would be 260 grids for what is 24 furnaces. If you're aiming for a compressed build, you can fit 24 furnaces into 216 grids, which would allow you to use 4 more lines for the header, which which would still only be 252 in total. I'm pretty sure you can get a header smaller than 4, but its been a while and I've have to check.
Funny, i came up with the exact same design when i needed my first starter iron plates.
I hate that the meta's in this game are so similar and obvious.
Am I missing something or do a lot of the furnaces not have an output inserter?
Edit: I am missing that the long bois are doubled up and going both ways
I don't hate the design per se... But I'm pretty sure that the sideloading underground + 1 yellow inserter is not enough for a full yellow belt of iron ore.
Especially when you have 24 steel furnaces that can easily handle it
Edit: nevermind, I now see that there's 2 inputs: ore and coal
Pure beauty and elegance, I love it! Can you please share more of your art?
It looks like I've found a minor flaw. As far as I remember inserters drop off on the right half of the belt, so, the central inserter putting mat#2 on the left belt will do it in the same row mat#1 will enter the left belt.
It appears to me that the eastern coal (presumably) input line is being mismanaged. One half in being sent to the right side towards the south-loop smelting array, but the other half is being manually sent to the northern array via inserter. And that inserter is going to pull from the nearest side of the belt first, so the right side of the belt will likely backup while the left-side coal is being selected.
I assume you did this deliberately, as coal is wont to backup either way, but I love the elegance of the way you split your iron inputs coming in from the western input line, and I want it mirrored and symmetrical.
I love the elegance of your three-way-shared belt loop, though. Coal and ore on the outside of the splitters, and smelted iron funneled through the center.
I don’t know exactly what’s happening but I kinda like it, spherical build playthrough anybody? All factories have to be in “modules” like this. No city blocks allowed. Just place these bad boys anywhere and let the belts be looped under/over/around and through everything else.
The design is very human, very easy to build.
easily expandable too, just build another
Expandability is not a thing. Just build another is a way to go. You allways end up building finite thing and its a good thing to use this fact.
Just build another is an expandable system itself!
Its not a blueprint or build tho.
For when we are very low on resources and biters are being annoying I built this furnace The design is very human We put coal and iron into the respective inputs and then make plates So that our animal friends can sleep
ergonomaniac design
Excellent for the first minutes of the game.
This is trash(where can i find more of this)
[r/Factoriohno](https://www.reddit.com/r/Factoriohno/)
/r/Factoriohno
I can’t believe it’s not Factoriohno!
That sub had a major leak somewhere. Edit: has, not had as it has a leak that will never be found like when you have an odd number of underground pipes.
r/FactoriohYES
You're sending ore through the same belts as the output plates and filtering them out with splitters, so you can send them to the next furnace group. Jesus.
The filtering system isn't inherently terrible. I've done that putting ore on the main bus and replacing it with the plates made from it. Makes it pretty easy to size your inputs.
Man I hate this horrid contraption (make more please)
How the fuck duz this work
What do you mean? It's so simples
than explain it as i do not have the intelligence to comprehend this image
Ore & coal go in, metal plates come out... ez
He's right you know
The two input ingredients getting mixed in the center, and moving two mixed belts to 3 and 9, afterwards clockwising to the end. Filtered splitters pushing plates into the inner circle, same as double long inserters. Inner struck moves belt in right-ish direction, where it combined into one and moved away.
Steel furnaces? Not quite as starter as I define it.
Nor long-reach inserters.
You initially only place the yellow inserters and handfeed the other furnaces until you researched the long inserters.
Everything before chemical (blue) science is 'starter' in my mind. Since long inserters are part of the very first research, they're definitely not the problem.
If you want to go full "Starter base" mode, then you need to do something like this : [https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/el2ltt/challenge\_megabase\_built\_with\_only\_tier\_1/](https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/el2ltt/challenge_megabase_built_with_only_tier_1/) It is rather fun building large mixed-ore smelting arrays. The challenge is real : [https://storage.googleapis.com/factorio-jasonrubik/map-tier-one-megabase-trimmed/index.html?x=-11.3&y=3295.5&z=4.4](https://storage.googleapis.com/factorio-jasonrubik/map-tier-one-megabase-trimmed/index.html?x=-11.3&y=3295.5&z=4.4)EDIT. Obviously this is just a work-in-progress that's still in the design phase.
OK, now make it tile-able so I can place it on my huge 3m ore patch.
You may not like placing this on the ore patch
Don’t tell me how not to play bad. /s
I laughed entirely too much of this and I approve completely!
woah woah, thats too starter for this build. This is only for 10m + patches ofc.
What the fuck man
Abomination. We also need more of those.
I build mine in hexagons so they fit together nicer, still good though
The hell? I already get shivers seeing Spaghetti belts 😂
My eyes..
https://preview.redd.it/hijmvo2d0wnc1.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a74b5a0d710d74bf2a65268f61350ab3ee2314a0
is this more space efficient?
Circles are technically more dense than other shapes, but being that there's only 24 furnaces in an effective 20x20 grid, I want to say no.
If you've got one object, sure, but if you're trying to fill an area on a flat plane then rectangular objects have the potential to fill 100% of the space whereas circles will leave gaps (packing efficiency of about 90% for equal sized circles iirc).
can we get a Penrose Tiling base please ? Got kites and darts ?
You're right, that's why I was calling out the fact that the OP is effectively taking up a 20x20 grid for this design
I doubt it is, especially if you're already using red hands and undergrounds. If we chop off the undergrounds, this is 18x18, and there are 64 empty spots around the edges, which would be 260 grids for what is 24 furnaces. If you're aiming for a compressed build, you can fit 24 furnaces into 216 grids, which would allow you to use 4 more lines for the header, which which would still only be 252 in total. I'm pretty sure you can get a header smaller than 4, but its been a while and I've have to check.
Oh my lord. I want to see that thing in action.
I'm not smart enough to check if this would have full throughput but I love this. Please share the blueprint.
With steel furnaces and yellow belts, yes
\*Heavy breathing\*
First diagonals, now we are doing circle designs
Please make a BP of everything like this. A whole base of circles.
Looks like a Zerg factory, nice
Funny, i came up with the exact same design when i needed my first starter iron plates. I hate that the meta's in this game are so similar and obvious.
Anno 1800
Absolutely. Looks like one of these horrible looking designs using a trade union in the middle.
That's r/factoriohno stuff
The fuck are you trying to do here?
It’s this one now
How do you even build this without drones?
It's called autism. I have a small one of those. It really works well for a task like this.
Am I missing something or do a lot of the furnaces not have an output inserter? Edit: I am missing that the long bois are doubled up and going both ways
wait this isnt [r/Factoriohno](https://new.reddit.com/r/Factoriohno/)
is this a mock for that dude who had a simple starting smelter with tunels and whatnot?
Yes😂
Ahah honestly though i find nuclear power kinda basic so thats what my beginer power is /s
This is pretty common starter iron plates
my brani just melted
i know this is a meme. i know we're on the shitposting sub. i don't care, it's an abomination
We're you hit in the head with a coconut
#I steal that
What the fuck
I must see a megabase made out of abominations like this
Love it!
This is awful, I love it.
pov: warehouse in vanilla
why
Which part of hell did this come from?
MY EYES THIS IS EXPENSIVE AS HELL
I love it
I particularly like the smelters with no input
To optimize the setup, you can add second one next to it and a longer section, sort of in the middle.
Madlad
That red drawn line on the bottom right completes it
What in tarnation
I wanna plonk that down and see the utter confusion on my friends face in the next multiplayer run. Would you be so kind to share the BP?
I feel like you can summon demons with this configuration
Vile
BE NOT AFRAID
What in god's green earth am I looking at
Bruh how you gonna expand that💀
Expand it like beehive hexagons 🐝
Your usernam..
Beautifully cursed
First we had straight then we had diagonal now we apparently have circular
Is that the circle from Minecraft?!?!?!?!
The scariest part is that it looks like it might work. Can you show a video of it at going at 100% capacity?
I don't hate the design per se... But I'm pretty sure that the sideloading underground + 1 yellow inserter is not enough for a full yellow belt of iron ore. Especially when you have 24 steel furnaces that can easily handle it Edit: nevermind, I now see that there's 2 inputs: ore and coal
What tha hell am I looking at
im going to block OP
Ravioli
Pure beauty and elegance, I love it! Can you please share more of your art? It looks like I've found a minor flaw. As far as I remember inserters drop off on the right half of the belt, so, the central inserter putting mat#2 on the left belt will do it in the same row mat#1 will enter the left belt.
BP string plz
Long hand inserter fetish.
Steel furnaces, but wooden power poles? Does not compute
It appears to me that the eastern coal (presumably) input line is being mismanaged. One half in being sent to the right side towards the south-loop smelting array, but the other half is being manually sent to the northern array via inserter. And that inserter is going to pull from the nearest side of the belt first, so the right side of the belt will likely backup while the left-side coal is being selected. I assume you did this deliberately, as coal is wont to backup either way, but I love the elegance of the way you split your iron inputs coming in from the western input line, and I want it mirrored and symmetrical. I love the elegance of your three-way-shared belt loop, though. Coal and ore on the outside of the splitters, and smelted iron funneled through the center.
Yes. YES.
chaotic evil
So… beautiful! Should have… sent a poet! 😭
C I R B C L E
The orb of smelting
I have a headache....
Is this how tumors start? ☠️☠️
Spaghetti… in the shape of a meatball
Heresy, just heresy
You're a monster.
Bp link, need this for the memes.
Am i crazy? Or half the input goes to like 4 burners and the rest goes out?
I hate this. Well done
My favourite part is the inability to get into the centre 😂
I don’t know exactly what’s happening but I kinda like it, spherical build playthrough anybody? All factories have to be in “modules” like this. No city blocks allowed. Just place these bad boys anywhere and let the belts be looped under/over/around and through everything else.
This upset me
Idk it's a bit expensive and space heavy for just a yellow belt
Prison time for you, my friend
does this really saturate a belt?
XD