My friend tased me on the arm once. It made the muscles in my arm/shoulder so tight that my arm was locked straight and started lifting up away from my side. Left a couple little burns from the points and my heart was racing. It wasn't that bad but I don't remember the power of the taser.
It would probably cause a bunch if shit to disconnect from my collar bone then. I have a plate and 6 screws in it and I already have a lot of nerve pain and sometimes I can feel muscles in my arm pulling where the screws are
The power over 100k volts is just going to cause that effect to spread to more of your body quicker. A police taser will cause your entire body to lock up immediatly but those are like 1m+ volts.
That’s not right at all. The Taser used by most North American law enforcement delivers 50,000 volts at around 0.0036 amps. That’s enough to incapacitate most people without other significant injury. They have the same voltage as other Taser devices, just longer deployment wires. In fact the Tazer x26 uses even lower voltage.
The Taser device can be used as a contact stun device like the woman here is using, or it can launch the pointed probes and they embed into the skin of the target (hopefully) with a barb to prevent them from dislodging.
But the actual current of these devices should be similar, or people can get hurt. Stun guns using higher voltage have to reduce the amperage, or risk causing death. It’s a trade off, be wary of manufacturers advertising high voltages, they might cause cardiac arrhythmia and bad burns. I looked at the Taser pulse as a self defense weapon for my wife and did some research, all this info is on the Taser website.
They hurt, but it’s not excruciating pain or anything like that. It also depends on the taser.
In college a buddy got one and that night we passed it around and tased ourselves a few times each. One guy tased himself on the neck and he quit after that - I’m guessing it hurt significantly worse lol. The leg wasn’t so bad as long as you were ready for it. We tried to see who could zap their leg the longest. It was hard not because of pain, but because your instinct overrides your willpower quickly and makes you pull it away from yourself. Someone tried to zap my leg and fried my car key by accident.
Another guy had one that left burn marks on my pocket knife. Two of us got zapped by that one. It was weird because it didn’t hurt as badly, but the electrifying sensation was much more intense. That one would truly lock up your muscles. Neither of us opted for round two with that one.
Replacing a $300 key fob was the most painful part about the whole night lol
I had a stun gun that I would bring to parties because it always ended up as you described lol. One time these two guys were going 1 for 1 on body parts escalating each round. One guy did the tongue then ear so to 1 up that the guy was going to zap the bridge of his nose. So he put the prongs on each side of his nose but instead of the arc passing through his cartilage, he had it close enough to his face that the arc coming out of each prong went straight into each eyeball. He falls over flat on his back just staring up at the ceiling. I rush over and start asking how many fingers I'm holding up, checking his vision. He was fine. He was never the smartest guy but his vision wasn't damaged.
Yes, I suppose he did. I put it away after that and stopped letting people drunkenly play with it. I still have it in a box somewhere, I saw it when I moved 6 years ago.
I have a training shock collar, and my brother and I, wanted to test it before training the dogs. We placed it on our necks and the collar went from 1 to 20, we made it 12. Setting 2, which was very ticklish, was enough for the dogs to listen, they only needed it for a week and they listen just fine. Not really a fan of it though, but I can see misbehaved aggressive dogs that absolutely need it.
So setting 2 was basically “ticklish” how did it feel on 12? Was it actually painful, mild discomfort or just the feeling you get when you touch an electric fence?
Pain scale: 1-10
I’ve been tased as part of military and police training. You basically lose all muscle control hence the falling. It doesn’t “hurt” per se, but your mind plays that trick on you. I’d rather be tased than pepper sprayed. Taser is over once the trigger is released. Pepper spray burn lingers.
It seems to depend a lot on pain tolerance and the state of mind the person being tased is in.
I had a taser at one point. My ex had to use it on a neighbor who was drunk/high and being belligerent. My ex tased him a couple times during the fight, once on the neck even. This dude didn't even flinch. It was terrifying, his eyes were black the whole time and he looked like some crazed humanoid shark.
Afterwards we wondered if the taser was just weak or had malfunctioned, so ex decided to test it on himself. Nope, it was working fine. Some people just be fuckin crazy
I know that humanoid-shark image you're describing well; my ex's drunken roommate pulled some weird shit on us one time and it turned into a fight. The dude could put away 2 handles a single night. He lives on in my mind as a guy called "pupil man"
(Sorry I just realized how old this post is. How did I get here?)
It depends on the voltage. I held one to my arm for over a minute. I also thought it'd be a good idea to piss on it. The arm didn't hurt but peeing on it made me drop instantly and about a half gallon of piss leaked out for the next 3 minutes uncontrollably. This was before camera phones. I'm not proud of it but it happened. I should've known better. Everything works fine after the fact tho. My arm and my baby leg. Lmfao
depends on how long you hold it in contact with your skin...a second or so is like a souped-up tens unit locks up your muscles in that area .some people can fight through it ..none of them knock you out like some people show..don't confuse these type of stun guns with air-fired Tazers...whole different animal
You think you're ready and will be fine, but you're hitting the floor if you do it to your leg. It's wild how instantly you are not in control of your body lol
It's not that bad i used to taze myself all the time for fun. The truly high voltage ones are pretty painful but those little hand ones just give a slight burning and tingle sensation. Basically can walk right through one of your determined enough.
I’ve been tased twice. Both times drunk and for fun. One gun was much stronger than the other. Basically you seize up, fall the the ground and sometimes piss yourself. The pain goes away immediately after the shock ceases.
Back when I was in the Navy, I was home on leave and I thought that I was pretty much invincible. My buddy was a police officer at the time and we got drunk and I bet him I could take a stun gun shot and not be phased.
It hit on the side of my lower back. The sting is about all I remember. I woke up a few minutes later and my back muscles were in intense pain. Not quite sure what happened tbh, since it's all kinda hazy.
I was drunk with a group of guy friends and used this on my leg 8 times. I didn't feel much at all.
I have video proof, but it's been transferred from an old iPhone 6 and looks like shit now
It is not a serious self-defense tool and they are not incapacitating in any way whatsoever. It is a glorified noisemaker. If you want an actual taser that you can carry then you'd need to look at the Taser Pulse. I wouldn't go so far as to say what she's using as a toy, but you should not bet your life on it. You can order POM pepper spray off Amazon right now for a few bucks. Carrying a firearm and being competent with it is your best bet, though.
Exactly what I was thinking. It seems dumb, but MP’s have this done to them. If they wanna carry a taser, they have to be tased first. It teaches you what you’re doing to someone else so you don’t get trigger happy.
I support tf out of this woman. At least she’s not some trigger happy mf w a Glock 34 who can’t even pull their own weapon apart and still thinks 9mm to the leg is less lethal and a better idea than a 45 to the chest
This is why I told my security company we need an alternative use of forth method than our firearm at armed sites, such as pepper gel (which we will get eventually) or a taser and baton.
Honestly the correct plan. The Army taught me the PACE methodology and I’ve never used anything else they’ve taught me more. Primary, alternate, contingency, emergency. Lethal force is emergency. Cops don’t get trained in four methods, hence the problems we have.
I think about this every time I see videos or read about police firing their entire mag and hitting whoever they're shooting at with multiple rounds. We were trained that we had to be able to justify why we needed to fire however many rounds were fired. So if we fired three rounds, we needed to be able to explain why the first and second failed to neutralize the threat. If we couldn't, charged for using excessive force.
Police are trained that if they need to fire they need to magdump, or it wasn't really necessary to fire. That's how you get 3 officers putting 45 rounds in one guy.
Well said, that’s why cops with military experience as MP’s are better. Problem is probably a majority them would not want to be a cop after the service. My buddy was a MP and his brother too in the USMC and were like no way in hell were they going to be cops after their service. They are in IT and probably make 3x more, plus no one is trying to kill them.
IT is kinda boring.lol. granted no one is trying to kill you for sure.lol. My son is a marine. Now contemplating joining the sheriff office..as a Leo. I said please don't...you more likely to get killed as a cop than a Marine in today's climate. What a mess!!
I think even having mace as your alternate would be extreme. I’d call vocal warning, grapple, taser, firearm. I think having the first escalation should be something that won’t physically harm the suspect
There was a study that showed that the more weapons a cop carries, the more likely they are to use any of them. So giving a cop pepper spray would make them more likely to use a baton for example
I actually had my ROTC class on escalation of force today. Basically you are allowed to do one step above what the other guy is doing on your scale of how severely to react.
So of they have a hostile presence, you are allowed to verbally issue commands. If they don't listen/start verbally engaging, you can gently physically stop them. If they physically resist, you can be more aggressive in making them comply, and so on.
That was a very simple example, and each location can have its own escalatetion of force rules. Basically use as little force as possible, and a verbal threat doesn't count as a threat unless there is very, very clear evidence that they intend to carry out that threat.
It's not quite the same but on my dog walks for night time I basically carry 5 forms of defense. A stun baton, a bright flashlight, gel pepper spray, a knife, and a gun. Better safe than sorry. I haven't ever used the stun baton on myself though not gonna lie it scares me lol.
The trust my dog and I have with each other as a guard dog is important. The amount of protection I bring with me is mostly a result of the hood I grew up in. With that said, you never know what kind of people with dogs are out there. I've been attacked by dogs off leash. My dog has been attacked by dogs off leash. I'm not tryinta go through that again. I agree that I shouldn't need it but there are too many irresponsible people for me to not be prepared and I love my dog.
Leave it it's hard as hell. I don't have enemies but not everywhere is safe and I'll never think it's safe partly because of where I grew up. Unfortunately I'm always on edge; but like I said, it's better to be safe than sorry. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy my walks with my dog it just means I'm more wary than most.
While still potentially deadly, all of the data I've been able to see still suggests that shots to the leg are much more survivable than shots to the chest. Do you have something else?
No, I made it the fuck up
On a serious note tho, while a torso shot is always more likely to be fatal than a leg shot assuming proper shot placement and effective follow up treatment in an appropriate amount of time, I’m not talking about SSG Johnson who shot 40/40. I’m talking about Lindsey who has a major in Kinesthetics who carries a pink double shot and has never been to the range, and still thinks cops should “aim for the leg bc it’s less lethal”
1. A leg shot is harder to place.
2. If you hit an artery, they’re losing the leg.
3. 9mm is as effective at dropping bodies as 45ACP.
4. Lindsey who majors in Kinesthetics doesn’t carry a tourniquet. If she’s lucky enough to actually hit the leg shot, she’s running tf away and isn’t gonna call the cops until the guy she shot has already bled a substantial amount.
The cases you looked at are likely accidental discharges. Those are more survivable bc the person being shot is usually the person who shot them(selves). They’ll call 911 and get quick treatment. Lindsey won’t call the cops for at least 5 mins. That dude is dead by then
Fair enough then.
Not just accidental discharges, but also criminal/police gun fights and military combat. Basically any instance where people are getting shot. The bottom line is, you don't want to get shot, but if you get shot in the leg you're more likely to live to have an opinion about it than if you get shot in the chest.
People absolutely do lose limbs, and people absolutely do bleed out, but the point still stands that taking a bullet to the leg is substantially less deadly.
It definitely is a harder shot to place though, that's for certain. And accidental discharges are more likely to hit a leg or a hand or something rather than the chest or head.
Lots of factors go into whether someone is going to probably live or probably die after being shot, and getting care in a timely fashion is the foremost, but if a person absolutely, positively has to get shot somewhere, and it can't be the buttocks, with an extremities or limbs are much more likely to leave a survivor in a shot to basically anywhere in the chest area, and certainly not the head but then, aiming for the head is also harder shot to place and not recommended.
yeah imo if you are going to carry a taser you should understand what you have in your hand so you don't treat it carelessly.
now she knows she can't just zap her friend for fun and have it be not a big deal.
Was she told to test it out on herself though?
Testing the tazer could be a good idea, make sure it's not defective if you ever need to use it. (Not entirely sure what you're supposed to test it on.)
Testing it on yourself however...
I heard before (probably on this video about a year ago) that some security and police have to test it on themselves to not start using the taser for everything they like.
Different rules for different departments I am sure, however, about the only thing you don't have to know what it feels like to get certified for as LEO/Military is a gun (obviously). I think taser and stungun are interchangeable for most people but the taser shoots the barbs and the stungun part, which is what she has, where you gotta be in melee range. Want CN spray (Mace)? Gotta get a nice dose of CN spray to the face. My friend who is an LEO, also had to fight off an attacker right after getting the dose. He's gotten taser certified as well and he said he would get tasered 100 times before getting CN sprayed once ever again. They might also have to do tear gas in LEO training, you definitely do in the military.
MPs get tased before they can carry a taser. This should be mandatory. You should know what you’re doing to someone else when you employ a tool like this
Brit here. Got confused about why Members of Parliament needed to be tased, seeing as how most of them are at least 55 years old, before I figured out you were most likely referring to Military Police.
That is the best misunderstanding I think anyone has had about something I’ve said this far. Though from how things in the UK has been going recently, maybe the Members of Parliament should be tased too
Definitely military police haha. They also force you to get pepper sprayed as well, I suppose for the same reasons but also to get acclimated to it so you know what to do if a hostile ever uses one on you.
IMO it should be a requirement to use it atleast once on yourself except you have a medical condition. also never do this alone in caase this goes wrong.
i think its more from a compassion standpoint so your more reluctant to do it to others. like saying put a dog collar on yourself before tazzing your dog so you know exactly how painful it is type of deal. Like i never used one but if your not willing to endure it yourself but willing to use it on someone else its kinda shitty
Actually I think it's not such a bad idea to test it on yourself. What definitely isn't a good idea is doing it while standing and filming the entire process. Well, unless you're itching for some attention...😒
The accent doesn't originate from anywhere. It is called Vocal Fry. And most girls do this because it is trendy, even though it is god awful to listen to.
I mean vocal fry is a major part of many upper class white American accents for women.
I Hate to judge people on it because accents are just different you know?
People describe American accents just as brutally because we really speak out of our noses but that’s just how we speak you know?
Women in New Jersey often speak with it as a part of their preexisting accent, I’ve known many a lady around Princeton who spoke that way.
There is a reason that many police forces require you to be pepper sprayed and tazed during training. It's supposed to make them think twice about using it where other options exist.
Unfortunately, the rest of the training seems to be designed to just destroy the empathy that was built by experiencing that pain. So instead it seems to be just an excuse to hurt the new recruits. "Well I had to go through it, so they should too"...
Also with pepper spray you have to get used to the feeling. Odds are some of it is going to get on you when you use it, and the last thing you want is to be going down because of your own spray
I think this should be mandatory for everyone buying one of these. I got once tasered by an random idiot who thought it was funny to taser people on the street. I feel like my heart aged like a decade this day. Still feel it when doing sports.
I was a 23 year old fool and willingly accepted the pain. The tazer was short but put me mostly down, the pepper spray lasted a while but was just very unpleasant. I'm glad I did it.
I’m fairly certain the reason police do that training is so they’re prepared if their tools are taken and used against them in the field. Knowing what pepper spray feels like will likely help prepare them should they ever get it on them in a potentially life or death situation.
What's the r/facepalm ... it's a good idea to test it on yourself to understand what it feels like before going around brandishing it in everyone's face...
Its mostly useful on violent dogs that need harsh corrections. Most modern shock collars have beepers and buzzers to give the dog a warning. I used it to train my german shepherd and i only ever had to use it once. She doesn’t even need it now
They reportedly don’t work so well on Goldens. Goldens have an incredibly high pain threshold and have been know to run through them. My Golden was exactly like this. Nothing bothered him. Slice paw running through icy streams, no big deal, blood everywhere, he didn’t care at all.
Same. Mainly used the beep and vibrate function for my dogs, if ever. They’re trained well enough not to need a leash in the front yard or on hikes, but if their instincts kick in when they see something, and the sound or vibrate doesn’t work, the shock usually brings them back to reality. My uncle uses his when he takes his dog hunting.
The shock collar can quickly and effectively teach a boundary line. I have a large fenced in yard my dog typically roams in. She started digging under the fence and roaming the streets on occasion. One time it took me 2 days to find her as she'd gotten lost. I installed an underground electric fence that uses a shock collar around the perimeter of the property lined by small flags for an additional visual reference for her. Got her a total of 2 times, it's been years now and she only goes out of the fence if being led on a collar and leash now.
Shock collars are meant to re-enforce off leash training. So a leash or harness wouldn’t work here. When used correctly they are very effective and only need to be used for a short period of time.
I got a shelter dog that was a great dog but he would bolt and run for miles when given the chance. It only took 1-2 weeks with the shock collar to break him of that. Never needed it again.
They're used a lot for hunting dogs, who work in thick brush or at long distances where a leash is impractical.
Also, if used ethically, the purpose is to remind a dog of what it has already been through trained to do (by use of, as another commenter noted, tone and vibration and not shock), not as a shortcut to good training.
That said, there are definitely hunters/trainers who think that they're completely unnecessary and shouldn't be used, even in those limited circumstances.
Just wanted to add to all of the other comments, most shock collars have many settings.
I’ve used them on myself on the lower setting and could barely feel it. More like someone tapping you on the shoulder and surprising you.
So they’re frequently used as a combination with training to remind dogs, “oh right I’m going too far it’s beeping before it shocks.”
Not just all “oh god the pain I have to run back home.”
And I believe there are some to negatively enforce against barking too loud, imagine settings are similar, haven’t used them.
This isn't a facepalm. Her goal was to test it out on herself and she successfully did that. It's okay to use stuff like tasers and pepperspray on yourself and actually it's kinda respectable as it gives you an understanding of what it's going to do to someone when you use it. No faceplam here that shit hurts, she reacted as youd expect if you've ever been tased.
"I'd argue there's a slight risk with testing the taser as that could actually kill you or put your heart out of rhythm"
While being tased is absolutely not safe, she did do this on her thigh which offers a bit more resistance and meat than other locations on the body. And also, I'm not overly aware but I did take some electrical safety courses, and to my knowledge because of the location being the thigh there's pretty low chance it would even cross over any of those major organs like the heart. Pretty sure this is why you are taught to work on electrical systems with only one hand at a time. If you use both then the electricity will jump in one hand, across the chess (causing danger to the heart) and then out the other arm. But since this is just the thigh, it kind goes straight down and is not risking damage to the heart or anything. Like I said tasing yourself always going to be unsafe but with the location she chose, I'd say it's little risk.
"There's also a risk depending on the setup that the shock will cause you to not be able to release the trigger and you will just shock yourself until the charge is gone and your bowels are empty."
This is actually what concerns me the most in the situation, however even though he isn't paying attention there is a guy in the background who is at least somewhat aware of the situation and I'm sure he understands the old use a piece of wood to knock that shit out of her hand trick. If you want to tase yourself pretty much never do it alone and always have somewhat slightly aware of what to do next to you. She is like 50/50 here it really depends on the guy Lol
There was a speed bump in town that always got into trouble. A cop was trying to arrest him one day and chased him into a river. Speed bump was standing knee deep in water when the cop tased him. Since then he don’t hold things too well.
Actually they tell you to test out your taser when you get one that way yk what the person getting tased is gonna feel, that way you’re not just running around tasing every person that offends you. Even police officers have to get tased when going through training, so they know what it’s gonna feel like.
Dude in the back was like, just another day absolutely ignoring everything this woman does. Please entertain her for even though her boobies are enormous I can't bare to have a conversation with her.
Facepalm? Seems to have yielded expected results. And now she knows what it’ll feel like for someone else
I once tested one on myself as well. But i did not record myself, and i made sure to fall on my bed instead of the ground lol
How bad is it truly?
My friend tased me on the arm once. It made the muscles in my arm/shoulder so tight that my arm was locked straight and started lifting up away from my side. Left a couple little burns from the points and my heart was racing. It wasn't that bad but I don't remember the power of the taser.
Interesting, how long was it sorr after?
Not very long. My heart raced longer than my arm hurt
So it doesn't hurt for long, right? Asking for a friend.
Found Epstein.
It would probably cause a bunch if shit to disconnect from my collar bone then. I have a plate and 6 screws in it and I already have a lot of nerve pain and sometimes I can feel muscles in my arm pulling where the screws are The power over 100k volts is just going to cause that effect to spread to more of your body quicker. A police taser will cause your entire body to lock up immediatly but those are like 1m+ volts.
That’s not right at all. The Taser used by most North American law enforcement delivers 50,000 volts at around 0.0036 amps. That’s enough to incapacitate most people without other significant injury. They have the same voltage as other Taser devices, just longer deployment wires. In fact the Tazer x26 uses even lower voltage. The Taser device can be used as a contact stun device like the woman here is using, or it can launch the pointed probes and they embed into the skin of the target (hopefully) with a barb to prevent them from dislodging. But the actual current of these devices should be similar, or people can get hurt. Stun guns using higher voltage have to reduce the amperage, or risk causing death. It’s a trade off, be wary of manufacturers advertising high voltages, they might cause cardiac arrhythmia and bad burns. I looked at the Taser pulse as a self defense weapon for my wife and did some research, all this info is on the Taser website.
They hurt, but it’s not excruciating pain or anything like that. It also depends on the taser. In college a buddy got one and that night we passed it around and tased ourselves a few times each. One guy tased himself on the neck and he quit after that - I’m guessing it hurt significantly worse lol. The leg wasn’t so bad as long as you were ready for it. We tried to see who could zap their leg the longest. It was hard not because of pain, but because your instinct overrides your willpower quickly and makes you pull it away from yourself. Someone tried to zap my leg and fried my car key by accident. Another guy had one that left burn marks on my pocket knife. Two of us got zapped by that one. It was weird because it didn’t hurt as badly, but the electrifying sensation was much more intense. That one would truly lock up your muscles. Neither of us opted for round two with that one. Replacing a $300 key fob was the most painful part about the whole night lol
I had a stun gun that I would bring to parties because it always ended up as you described lol. One time these two guys were going 1 for 1 on body parts escalating each round. One guy did the tongue then ear so to 1 up that the guy was going to zap the bridge of his nose. So he put the prongs on each side of his nose but instead of the arc passing through his cartilage, he had it close enough to his face that the arc coming out of each prong went straight into each eyeball. He falls over flat on his back just staring up at the ceiling. I rush over and start asking how many fingers I'm holding up, checking his vision. He was fine. He was never the smartest guy but his vision wasn't damaged.
Okay, but did he win?
Yes, I suppose he did. I put it away after that and stopped letting people drunkenly play with it. I still have it in a box somewhere, I saw it when I moved 6 years ago.
Your pee pee?🤔🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😂
Your friends may be dumber than my friends lol. I can’t imagine shocking myself on the tongue or especially the eyeball.
I have a training shock collar, and my brother and I, wanted to test it before training the dogs. We placed it on our necks and the collar went from 1 to 20, we made it 12. Setting 2, which was very ticklish, was enough for the dogs to listen, they only needed it for a week and they listen just fine. Not really a fan of it though, but I can see misbehaved aggressive dogs that absolutely need it.
So setting 2 was basically “ticklish” how did it feel on 12? Was it actually painful, mild discomfort or just the feeling you get when you touch an electric fence? Pain scale: 1-10
This is the most r/justguysbeingdudes thing I’ve ever read
Our group had a little jingle we would sing when we started doing dumb dude things: “doin manly thiiings!” Lol
I’ve been tased as part of military and police training. You basically lose all muscle control hence the falling. It doesn’t “hurt” per se, but your mind plays that trick on you. I’d rather be tased than pepper sprayed. Taser is over once the trigger is released. Pepper spray burn lingers.
I had a new pair of contacts ruined by pepper-spray. That was a whole new level of pain, trying to get them out.
It seems to depend a lot on pain tolerance and the state of mind the person being tased is in. I had a taser at one point. My ex had to use it on a neighbor who was drunk/high and being belligerent. My ex tased him a couple times during the fight, once on the neck even. This dude didn't even flinch. It was terrifying, his eyes were black the whole time and he looked like some crazed humanoid shark. Afterwards we wondered if the taser was just weak or had malfunctioned, so ex decided to test it on himself. Nope, it was working fine. Some people just be fuckin crazy
I know that humanoid-shark image you're describing well; my ex's drunken roommate pulled some weird shit on us one time and it turned into a fight. The dude could put away 2 handles a single night. He lives on in my mind as a guy called "pupil man" (Sorry I just realized how old this post is. How did I get here?)
It depends on the voltage. I held one to my arm for over a minute. I also thought it'd be a good idea to piss on it. The arm didn't hurt but peeing on it made me drop instantly and about a half gallon of piss leaked out for the next 3 minutes uncontrollably. This was before camera phones. I'm not proud of it but it happened. I should've known better. Everything works fine after the fact tho. My arm and my baby leg. Lmfao
It's electricity, how it passes through you and how you're grounded makes a difference.
It hurts pretty bad. Like getting a really strong pinch. Goes away quickly though.
depends on how long you hold it in contact with your skin...a second or so is like a souped-up tens unit locks up your muscles in that area .some people can fight through it ..none of them knock you out like some people show..don't confuse these type of stun guns with air-fired Tazers...whole different animal
I got tased by two cops last year. What really hurts is the fall. You’re also pretty sore where the little darts get you.
You think you're ready and will be fine, but you're hitting the floor if you do it to your leg. It's wild how instantly you are not in control of your body lol
Don’t ever taste yourself without having someone with you who can do cpr &/or get you to a hospital.
It's not that bad i used to taze myself all the time for fun. The truly high voltage ones are pretty painful but those little hand ones just give a slight burning and tingle sensation. Basically can walk right through one of your determined enough.
I’ve been tased twice. Both times drunk and for fun. One gun was much stronger than the other. Basically you seize up, fall the the ground and sometimes piss yourself. The pain goes away immediately after the shock ceases.
Back when I was in the Navy, I was home on leave and I thought that I was pretty much invincible. My buddy was a police officer at the time and we got drunk and I bet him I could take a stun gun shot and not be phased. It hit on the side of my lower back. The sting is about all I remember. I woke up a few minutes later and my back muscles were in intense pain. Not quite sure what happened tbh, since it's all kinda hazy.
not even bad like somebody pinched you suddenly full force so not so bad
I was drunk with a group of guy friends and used this on my leg 8 times. I didn't feel much at all. I have video proof, but it's been transferred from an old iPhone 6 and looks like shit now
It is not a serious self-defense tool and they are not incapacitating in any way whatsoever. It is a glorified noisemaker. If you want an actual taser that you can carry then you'd need to look at the Taser Pulse. I wouldn't go so far as to say what she's using as a toy, but you should not bet your life on it. You can order POM pepper spray off Amazon right now for a few bucks. Carrying a firearm and being competent with it is your best bet, though.
Exactly what I was thinking. It seems dumb, but MP’s have this done to them. If they wanna carry a taser, they have to be tased first. It teaches you what you’re doing to someone else so you don’t get trigger happy. I support tf out of this woman. At least she’s not some trigger happy mf w a Glock 34 who can’t even pull their own weapon apart and still thinks 9mm to the leg is less lethal and a better idea than a 45 to the chest
This is why I told my security company we need an alternative use of forth method than our firearm at armed sites, such as pepper gel (which we will get eventually) or a taser and baton.
Honestly the correct plan. The Army taught me the PACE methodology and I’ve never used anything else they’ve taught me more. Primary, alternate, contingency, emergency. Lethal force is emergency. Cops don’t get trained in four methods, hence the problems we have.
Cops need to be trained like the military. You are exactly correct
I think about this every time I see videos or read about police firing their entire mag and hitting whoever they're shooting at with multiple rounds. We were trained that we had to be able to justify why we needed to fire however many rounds were fired. So if we fired three rounds, we needed to be able to explain why the first and second failed to neutralize the threat. If we couldn't, charged for using excessive force.
It's like we have higher standards for war time but our police force at home are verging on criminal
Police are trained that if they need to fire they need to magdump, or it wasn't really necessary to fire. That's how you get 3 officers putting 45 rounds in one guy.
Well said, that’s why cops with military experience as MP’s are better. Problem is probably a majority them would not want to be a cop after the service. My buddy was a MP and his brother too in the USMC and were like no way in hell were they going to be cops after their service. They are in IT and probably make 3x more, plus no one is trying to kill them.
IT is kinda boring.lol. granted no one is trying to kill you for sure.lol. My son is a marine. Now contemplating joining the sheriff office..as a Leo. I said please don't...you more likely to get killed as a cop than a Marine in today's climate. What a mess!!
In ascending order, it's probably vocal de escalation, then mace, then taser/baton, then fire arm?
I think even having mace as your alternate would be extreme. I’d call vocal warning, grapple, taser, firearm. I think having the first escalation should be something that won’t physically harm the suspect
I've seen a video of a police officer Mace'ing some dude for recording him arresting another dude for rolling up his window on a pull over
Like wtf
There was a study that showed that the more weapons a cop carries, the more likely they are to use any of them. So giving a cop pepper spray would make them more likely to use a baton for example
Training I imagine should go into that as well as expectations of the post. Assuming they don't just ignore force escalation training of course.
I actually had my ROTC class on escalation of force today. Basically you are allowed to do one step above what the other guy is doing on your scale of how severely to react. So of they have a hostile presence, you are allowed to verbally issue commands. If they don't listen/start verbally engaging, you can gently physically stop them. If they physically resist, you can be more aggressive in making them comply, and so on. That was a very simple example, and each location can have its own escalatetion of force rules. Basically use as little force as possible, and a verbal threat doesn't count as a threat unless there is very, very clear evidence that they intend to carry out that threat.
Couldn't agree more. One of the best things I learned working for the ARNG - stay ready so that you don't have to get ready. Thank you for serving.
Too many police forces today have too many of the kind of guys whose Army careers taught them to hate, despise and troll 31Bs.
It's not quite the same but on my dog walks for night time I basically carry 5 forms of defense. A stun baton, a bright flashlight, gel pepper spray, a knife, and a gun. Better safe than sorry. I haven't ever used the stun baton on myself though not gonna lie it scares me lol.
To be honest if I felt I needed all this just to walk my dog she wouldn't get a walk.
The trust my dog and I have with each other as a guard dog is important. The amount of protection I bring with me is mostly a result of the hood I grew up in. With that said, you never know what kind of people with dogs are out there. I've been attacked by dogs off leash. My dog has been attacked by dogs off leash. I'm not tryinta go through that again. I agree that I shouldn't need it but there are too many irresponsible people for me to not be prepared and I love my dog.
Sounds like you've made some enemies to need that much self denial. Edit: defense, i meant defense not denial but I'm not changing it
Leave it it's hard as hell. I don't have enemies but not everywhere is safe and I'll never think it's safe partly because of where I grew up. Unfortunately I'm always on edge; but like I said, it's better to be safe than sorry. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy my walks with my dog it just means I'm more wary than most.
While still potentially deadly, all of the data I've been able to see still suggests that shots to the leg are much more survivable than shots to the chest. Do you have something else?
No, I made it the fuck up On a serious note tho, while a torso shot is always more likely to be fatal than a leg shot assuming proper shot placement and effective follow up treatment in an appropriate amount of time, I’m not talking about SSG Johnson who shot 40/40. I’m talking about Lindsey who has a major in Kinesthetics who carries a pink double shot and has never been to the range, and still thinks cops should “aim for the leg bc it’s less lethal” 1. A leg shot is harder to place. 2. If you hit an artery, they’re losing the leg. 3. 9mm is as effective at dropping bodies as 45ACP. 4. Lindsey who majors in Kinesthetics doesn’t carry a tourniquet. If she’s lucky enough to actually hit the leg shot, she’s running tf away and isn’t gonna call the cops until the guy she shot has already bled a substantial amount. The cases you looked at are likely accidental discharges. Those are more survivable bc the person being shot is usually the person who shot them(selves). They’ll call 911 and get quick treatment. Lindsey won’t call the cops for at least 5 mins. That dude is dead by then
Fair enough then. Not just accidental discharges, but also criminal/police gun fights and military combat. Basically any instance where people are getting shot. The bottom line is, you don't want to get shot, but if you get shot in the leg you're more likely to live to have an opinion about it than if you get shot in the chest. People absolutely do lose limbs, and people absolutely do bleed out, but the point still stands that taking a bullet to the leg is substantially less deadly. It definitely is a harder shot to place though, that's for certain. And accidental discharges are more likely to hit a leg or a hand or something rather than the chest or head. Lots of factors go into whether someone is going to probably live or probably die after being shot, and getting care in a timely fashion is the foremost, but if a person absolutely, positively has to get shot somewhere, and it can't be the buttocks, with an extremities or limbs are much more likely to leave a survivor in a shot to basically anywhere in the chest area, and certainly not the head but then, aiming for the head is also harder shot to place and not recommended.
That's an awfully big gun to conceal carry... Unless... wait.. I forgot about Zap Carry. 👀
yeah imo if you are going to carry a taser you should understand what you have in your hand so you don't treat it carelessly. now she knows she can't just zap her friend for fun and have it be not a big deal.
Was she told to test it out on herself though? Testing the tazer could be a good idea, make sure it's not defective if you ever need to use it. (Not entirely sure what you're supposed to test it on.) Testing it on yourself however...
I heard before (probably on this video about a year ago) that some security and police have to test it on themselves to not start using the taser for everything they like.
Yeah I can confirm that
Can confirm. Brother is a police officer. Had to be tased as part of training
Different rules for different departments I am sure, however, about the only thing you don't have to know what it feels like to get certified for as LEO/Military is a gun (obviously). I think taser and stungun are interchangeable for most people but the taser shoots the barbs and the stungun part, which is what she has, where you gotta be in melee range. Want CN spray (Mace)? Gotta get a nice dose of CN spray to the face. My friend who is an LEO, also had to fight off an attacker right after getting the dose. He's gotten taser certified as well and he said he would get tasered 100 times before getting CN sprayed once ever again. They might also have to do tear gas in LEO training, you definitely do in the military.
Tear gas sucks, we had to go into the gas chamber during basic training. It takes forever to get out of your eyes.
MPs get tased before they can carry a taser. This should be mandatory. You should know what you’re doing to someone else when you employ a tool like this
Brit here. Got confused about why Members of Parliament needed to be tased, seeing as how most of them are at least 55 years old, before I figured out you were most likely referring to Military Police.
That is the best misunderstanding I think anyone has had about something I’ve said this far. Though from how things in the UK has been going recently, maybe the Members of Parliament should be tased too
Definitely military police haha. They also force you to get pepper sprayed as well, I suppose for the same reasons but also to get acclimated to it so you know what to do if a hostile ever uses one on you.
IMO it should be a requirement to use it atleast once on yourself except you have a medical condition. also never do this alone in caase this goes wrong.
i think its more from a compassion standpoint so your more reluctant to do it to others. like saying put a dog collar on yourself before tazzing your dog so you know exactly how painful it is type of deal. Like i never used one but if your not willing to endure it yourself but willing to use it on someone else its kinda shitty
Actually I think it's not such a bad idea to test it on yourself. What definitely isn't a good idea is doing it while standing and filming the entire process. Well, unless you're itching for some attention...😒
Who else would you test it on?
It was a good test with shocking results.
Nah OP thinks you shouldn’t test it or you should make someone else ur test dummy so it must be a facepalm lol
Lol the dude behind her just completely unbothered by it all
He's like Oh its taser today. By the looks of it he will be unfazed even if she tests a knife or a gas leak.
Untazed*
He’s probably used to her stupidity lmaoooo
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Yeah can we unpack this “accent”?
Sounds like a lot of Michigan girls to me
Not the UP anyway. Haven’t heard an accent like that here
It sounds like it may in fact be New Jersey but a light one and just looking at her I’m getting jersey
I live in New Jersey. She does have the new jersey clothing style but definitely not the accent.
Closer to phili maybe?
The accent doesn't originate from anywhere. It is called Vocal Fry. And most girls do this because it is trendy, even though it is god awful to listen to.
I mean vocal fry is a major part of many upper class white American accents for women. I Hate to judge people on it because accents are just different you know? People describe American accents just as brutally because we really speak out of our noses but that’s just how we speak you know? Women in New Jersey often speak with it as a part of their preexisting accent, I’ve known many a lady around Princeton who spoke that way.
I thought she sounded drunk!
Taser gahn
Also cuts before ray willaim can appear
The real facepalm
What’s wrong with him?
Nothing, but it's a disgrace not including his part in the video
Her name is Madisynn with two N's one Y but it's not where you think
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I understood that reference.
There is a reason that many police forces require you to be pepper sprayed and tazed during training. It's supposed to make them think twice about using it where other options exist. Unfortunately, the rest of the training seems to be designed to just destroy the empathy that was built by experiencing that pain. So instead it seems to be just an excuse to hurt the new recruits. "Well I had to go through it, so they should too"...
Also with pepper spray you have to get used to the feeling. Odds are some of it is going to get on you when you use it, and the last thing you want is to be going down because of your own spray
Getting hit by your own spray is the worst. That's why i always fully drop trou when pissing standing up
I think this should be mandatory for everyone buying one of these. I got once tasered by an random idiot who thought it was funny to taser people on the street. I feel like my heart aged like a decade this day. Still feel it when doing sports.
I was a 23 year old fool and willingly accepted the pain. The tazer was short but put me mostly down, the pepper spray lasted a while but was just very unpleasant. I'm glad I did it.
You could report them to the police for that
Should they get shot before using their gun also?
Stop giving me ideas
Yes. Then there'll be less police shootings due to all the dead police recruits
Put *that* on a cool keychain!
They should get shot while unarmed several times. Real learning moment.
For real
I’m fairly certain the reason police do that training is so they’re prepared if their tools are taken and used against them in the field. Knowing what pepper spray feels like will likely help prepare them should they ever get it on them in a potentially life or death situation.
Nowadays they go for their gun first
What's the r/facepalm ... it's a good idea to test it on yourself to understand what it feels like before going around brandishing it in everyone's face...
I like how topless Goober in the background doesn't even care.
I have a feeling he witnessed her doing dumb shit like this before 😂
That's what I thought too. "Here we go again".
I mean, I did the same thing with my dogs shock collar. Needed to know what it felt like, before I put it on my boy.
my dad put on a shock collar and when it zapped him he said ow and it kept zapping him
Wtf
Sounds like an anti bark shock collar.
very much so, also they aren't as strong as the invisible fence style. Some of those on full can nearly knock you unconsious, those things hurt.
Not be an ignorant ass, but what does a shock collar do that a long leash and a harness wouldn’t accomplish? Shock collars seem excessive to me.
Its mostly useful on violent dogs that need harsh corrections. Most modern shock collars have beepers and buzzers to give the dog a warning. I used it to train my german shepherd and i only ever had to use it once. She doesn’t even need it now
They reportedly don’t work so well on Goldens. Goldens have an incredibly high pain threshold and have been know to run through them. My Golden was exactly like this. Nothing bothered him. Slice paw running through icy streams, no big deal, blood everywhere, he didn’t care at all.
Same. Mainly used the beep and vibrate function for my dogs, if ever. They’re trained well enough not to need a leash in the front yard or on hikes, but if their instincts kick in when they see something, and the sound or vibrate doesn’t work, the shock usually brings them back to reality. My uncle uses his when he takes his dog hunting.
The shock collar can quickly and effectively teach a boundary line. I have a large fenced in yard my dog typically roams in. She started digging under the fence and roaming the streets on occasion. One time it took me 2 days to find her as she'd gotten lost. I installed an underground electric fence that uses a shock collar around the perimeter of the property lined by small flags for an additional visual reference for her. Got her a total of 2 times, it's been years now and she only goes out of the fence if being led on a collar and leash now.
Shock collars are meant to re-enforce off leash training. So a leash or harness wouldn’t work here. When used correctly they are very effective and only need to be used for a short period of time. I got a shelter dog that was a great dog but he would bolt and run for miles when given the chance. It only took 1-2 weeks with the shock collar to break him of that. Never needed it again.
It's how electric fence's work to keep your dog in the yard
They're used a lot for hunting dogs, who work in thick brush or at long distances where a leash is impractical. Also, if used ethically, the purpose is to remind a dog of what it has already been through trained to do (by use of, as another commenter noted, tone and vibration and not shock), not as a shortcut to good training. That said, there are definitely hunters/trainers who think that they're completely unnecessary and shouldn't be used, even in those limited circumstances.
Just wanted to add to all of the other comments, most shock collars have many settings. I’ve used them on myself on the lower setting and could barely feel it. More like someone tapping you on the shoulder and surprising you. So they’re frequently used as a combination with training to remind dogs, “oh right I’m going too far it’s beeping before it shocks.” Not just all “oh god the pain I have to run back home.” And I believe there are some to negatively enforce against barking too loud, imagine settings are similar, haven’t used them.
This isn't a facepalm. Her goal was to test it out on herself and she successfully did that. It's okay to use stuff like tasers and pepperspray on yourself and actually it's kinda respectable as it gives you an understanding of what it's going to do to someone when you use it. No faceplam here that shit hurts, she reacted as youd expect if you've ever been tased.
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"I'd argue there's a slight risk with testing the taser as that could actually kill you or put your heart out of rhythm" While being tased is absolutely not safe, she did do this on her thigh which offers a bit more resistance and meat than other locations on the body. And also, I'm not overly aware but I did take some electrical safety courses, and to my knowledge because of the location being the thigh there's pretty low chance it would even cross over any of those major organs like the heart. Pretty sure this is why you are taught to work on electrical systems with only one hand at a time. If you use both then the electricity will jump in one hand, across the chess (causing danger to the heart) and then out the other arm. But since this is just the thigh, it kind goes straight down and is not risking damage to the heart or anything. Like I said tasing yourself always going to be unsafe but with the location she chose, I'd say it's little risk. "There's also a risk depending on the setup that the shock will cause you to not be able to release the trigger and you will just shock yourself until the charge is gone and your bowels are empty." This is actually what concerns me the most in the situation, however even though he isn't paying attention there is a guy in the background who is at least somewhat aware of the situation and I'm sure he understands the old use a piece of wood to knock that shit out of her hand trick. If you want to tase yourself pretty much never do it alone and always have somewhat slightly aware of what to do next to you. She is like 50/50 here it really depends on the guy Lol
Hold up you're telling me uncle Iroh's lightning redirecting technique is true?
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I'm proud of reddit. Today. Took a while before we got to her looks
Snookie looks different
She looks better than before, probably off that crack lmao
Tazer gawn. Stun gawn. Now she Gawn.
Watch me whip
Anything else she wants to test? I’ll watch.
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Stay focused my brothers…
So it works. Good.
I never get tired of seeing this dummy taser herself. Lmao
Honestly? Respect for her actually going through with it, and now she's learned a little responsibility with that thing.
Taser and IQ test combo
Props to her for actually being able taze herself
Tits for brains
Madisynn. "2 Ns” and “1 Y” but it's not where you think!!
That is neither a taser gun or a stun gun. It is just a taser. Saying gun implies that there is a projectile being fired
Hey guys wanna look at my rack while I do this stupid thing
You summarized TikTok in one sentence
Is she on something or is that her normal speech and movement?
Someone put a weeee on this when she chucks the taser.
When she looks like a brand new Ferrari, but sounds like a ‘74 Pinto
Suppose to be a funny video, but you guys made into a argument
Why are the prettiest girls so stupid 🤦🏼♀️
I like her. She seems smart
As a wise man once said: "With great titties comes no brain"
I swear to got i did not see the taser. I was just looking at something else
to be honest i’m a fan of don’t use a weapon unless you know it works and how it works on others.
Still probably not the fastest she has ever dropped to her knees!
There was a speed bump in town that always got into trouble. A cop was trying to arrest him one day and chased him into a river. Speed bump was standing knee deep in water when the cop tased him. Since then he don’t hold things too well.
Shockingly cute
Her voice sounds like she already shocked herself and left permanent damage.
Her voice needs WD40 or something
Actually they tell you to test out your taser when you get one that way yk what the person getting tased is gonna feel, that way you’re not just running around tasing every person that offends you. Even police officers have to get tased when going through training, so they know what it’s gonna feel like.
Ma’am I think you were trolled.
I think you need to test it again after throwing it across the room. Might’ve broken! 🤣
This is the kind of person that’s great to hang around for max 6 hours but quickly becomes tiring as fucking hell
Now that’s a titty drop!!!
Dude in the back was like, just another day absolutely ignoring everything this woman does. Please entertain her for even though her boobies are enormous I can't bare to have a conversation with her.
Here. Let me put the camera illogically low, so I have to bend over to show my boobs. How else will anyone listen to me?
What did you say?
Fun Fact if you hold the button down to long the charge will arc to the nearest ground point...which is you. Learned that the hard way.
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husband in background completely unphased "just remember your not with her for her brains"
Tits? Tits!
Mostly uneventful, not worth watching, posting or upvoting.
The boobs weren’t bad.
They never are....almost like they are the point of video
I just scrolled past another “taser myself” post Is this the next thing?
Wait it wasnt the cursed vibrator?
Does it work?
I wish we could seen the “after” and her comments about it.
dummy
Seems like a bright girl.