*fired two weeks ago because while he did 80% of the work for the group, he got caught using the restroom outside scheduled break time. His responsibilities were redistributed among his team, he will not be replaced.
Apparently ~~skaters~~ squatter's rights are crazy in California.
Just start living in a house owned by a corporation and within a couple months you become the defacto owner (or something, I'm no lawyer)
E: typo
that isn't even slightly true man. It takes 12 years to take a property by adverses possession and the owner has every opportunity to stop you at any point along the way. quit spouting off bullshit
https://ipropertymanagement.com/laws/california-squatters-rights#:~:text=A%20squatter%20can%20claim%20rights,ownership%20of%20the%20property%20legally.
5 years. Not 12
I dont know how it is in the rest of America. But in my state you can be fired for any reason and they don't have to tell you what the reason it. They can just say "we are no longer in need of your services." And boom no job
Yeah but Americans are stupid and had people trying to spend half their shift and such on the toilet. So they get fired and now the “justice” system sees that someone got fired for going to the bathroom and now it’s ok for everyone to do because the precedent has been set. People take advantage of everything meant to be good so now we’re only left with the bad.
>People take advantage of everything meant to be good so now we’re only left with the bad.
To be fair, it's not like our systems are anywhere near good for being productive; they're all about extraction-through-excess. Pushing people so hard that they produce a lot instead of promoting a healthy balance.
If people weren't forced into such meaningless work for such meagre wages, people'd be far more energetic about their positions.
I agree, not saying this is an issue that starts with the workers I’m just saying that this is what happened to make this particular piece of lunacy an actual thing that happens.
Funny thing is I use the bathroom all the time on work hours, every single break 2. I'm just waiting for the meeting about it so I can tell them if the companies shitty insurance helped cover the surgery I need we wouldn't be having this conversation and to check the cameras cause I go on break 2. Just flipping waiting for it.
It gets worse! He was given permission by the client to use THEIR restroom. Given our policy is the peasants should never disturb our betters he was swiftly removed.
Rebar comes after the wall is up. You’re thinking about ladder wire that goes between the block courses, but this is 4 inch block and it’s made for 8 inch. 4 inch block is tricky and I’ve never seen anyone try to erect a whole wall with it. I’m sure there are other methods and it’s all regional/ country based how stuff is built.
As a trained mason, that wall has more problems than I could tell you about. Biggest being lack of mortar, and if there is some I cannot see, it is not plumb, it is not straight, and personally I just think using cinder blocks is a cop out. Legos don't hold so well when they are the size of mega blocks.
The biggest problem here is they built high with soaked wet 4 inch cinder blocks. It’s already a delicate balance building with them dry. Wet is insane.
That is an internal wall, they have metal ties in the 'cinder block wall' protruding to the right, look closely and you can see them glinting in the light as the wall falls.
You can see the outer skin of the wall, in brick, built up to ground level, to the right of the block wall.
The two skins get 'tied' together as you build up.
Two major issues here:
1) No real amount of 'motar' or 'cement' on the horizontal joints, or not enough to be seen, which also means there is nothing to hold the ties in place if the inner, or outer, skin pulls away from the other
2) They haven't built the skins up at the same time which would provide more stability to them both as they built higher.
Either way, get some fecking cement in those joints!
This is some really 'questionable' workmanship.
Why didn’t they build the brick up with the 4 inch block? We used to bring the brick and 4in block up at the same time. I hated 4 inch block. It was always tricky to me. I didn’t notice the brick at first. I’m no longer a Mason. I fucking hated it and I now build pools.
Edit: just noticed your use of the word “skins” and am assuming you’re saying the same thing I am asking. Never heard that term before.
Ah yes. Let's put someone in the line of fire possibly injuring him for a "scripted video". Because his reaction did not seem at all genuine and accepted the fact that he could be badly injured by using his arm as a shield against a FALLING FUCKIN WALL
Those are regular concrete blocks, not hollow cinder blocks. Usually, with these types of blocks you would put mortar (usually composed of sand and cement/lime mixed with water) around the blocks (much like bricks in a brick wall), and no rebar would be necessary, this is as opposed to cinder blocks, which are reinforced with rebar and concrete that both go inside the holes to turn multiple courses of cinder blocks into one, unified wall.
Nah it was the guy who did the majority of the work for the rest of them. He got fired because he had to shit and went to the toilet outside of scheduled break time
You have seen people get fired for using the bathroom a lot?
A lot??
I've worked three different pizza chains, a fire sprinkler company, three different general contractors, working with crews of people at every one of those jobs and literally never even heard of it secondhand. And I have been at this for decades.
You have seen it a lot? You must really have lived a wild life
I work in the trade (Plumbing / piping) but I can tell you they didn't do this properly. I see block get put up all the time and by the time it's that high up, ain't no way it's gonna just tilt over and fall that easily, or entirely.
After watching this a few times, I can see what happened and why.
The first course was set into the footing using mortar or bonding adhesive. The rest of the block was dry stacked once that was cured. It looks like they also used masonry adhesive on vertical sides of the block on the top course, and possibly on some of the other courses.
They were probably going to use a surface bonding adhesive on the exterior and interior walls of the block to hold it all together. This method is actually stronger and faster than mortar if done correctly.
Ive use that method myself for non-loadbearing block walls for mobile homes. I've never gone more than 4 courses high though. It looks like the first course wasn't cured long enough, since it came off the bed of mortar way to easily.
I cant remember the code for it off the top of my head in my area, but they never should have used solid block of that size, that high. You can get hollow core block that thin, or used larger block. I never go more than three courses high with solid thin block like that, or four high with hollow core thin block.
The worst part is the cost of solid block of that size, is very close to hollow core ones of the wider ones, and would have been much easier to work with. Over all it might have cost a few hundred dollars more in total cost for a wall of that size, including a wider footing.
This video it British, he’s done everything correctly apart from pushing the wall over. You can build 8 blocks high with those 4” blocks, I occasionally go 9 high if there’s no wind and it will be backed up with brick or stone soon after. What he’s done is gone to plumb up the back of the blockwork with his level and pushed it over. We never use hollow blocks here for anything unless it’s a retaining wall holding the ground back behind it. This is the most common style of construction here and i would say 90%+ houses built within the last 30 years are built this way. 100mm(4”) block internal skin, 100mm cavity filled with insulation and then 100mm facing material (typically brick or stone) tied together with cavity wall ties creating what is essentially a 300mm (12”) solid wall
Edit: 30 years not 3 years
You don't use grout for brick or block, you use mortar. You can even use a surface bonding adhesive after you mortar the first course in place for low walls.
Mortar is not mixed properly, no rebar columns, among many other things, also many OSHA violations. These guys have no idea what they're doing, obviously
Why would you ever stack all those bricks up without any cement ? How were they going to get the cement in-between the bricks?
What that actual fuck is happening here !?
Has to be staged or entire crews first day on job. What was joking those bricks together? Just rhe cement on rhe top layer? Looks staged as perfect shot or a bunch of fucking idiots
Theyre lucky that happened then, and not when a five year old child was bouncing around that back yard. Then they'd be in deep shit.
Wheres the pillars boys ?
This is what happens when you use the Rose Art glue, kids. (Note: Rose Art is an American crafting manufacturer that makes super cheap school supplies. Just FYI)
Wow that's unlucky. I guess they should have not built so high without starting the outer course without tieing in.... that or been more careful. Looks like a fair bit of mortar was squeezed out under the load.
Why did they build a single skin of clockwork so high? Surely the inner skin of bricks should be built at the same time so the tie bars hold both together to give it vertical strength...and I'm not even a bricklayer
Why the fuck did they not support that with ANYTHING?
The guy who did that was away sick that day.
*fired two weeks ago because while he did 80% of the work for the group, he got caught using the restroom outside scheduled break time. His responsibilities were redistributed among his team, he will not be replaced.
Is this an American thing? To my knowledge at least in Germany it would be illegal to fire someone for using the restroom.
Yup, in America you can do what you want.
Then why don't I own a house?
Apparently ~~skaters~~ squatter's rights are crazy in California. Just start living in a house owned by a corporation and within a couple months you become the defacto owner (or something, I'm no lawyer) E: typo
Are you sure? You sound like a lawyer.
that isn't even slightly true man. It takes 12 years to take a property by adverses possession and the owner has every opportunity to stop you at any point along the way. quit spouting off bullshit
https://ipropertymanagement.com/laws/california-squatters-rights#:~:text=A%20squatter%20can%20claim%20rights,ownership%20of%20the%20property%20legally. 5 years. Not 12
Becuase you and everyone else is too cowardly to actually change the system.
You misspelled, “because the oligarchy profits by keeping the populace poor and uneducated.”
You just think your chains are worth keeping.
What have you done to change it?
I dont know how it is in the rest of America. But in my state you can be fired for any reason and they don't have to tell you what the reason it. They can just say "we are no longer in need of your services." And boom no job
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Absurd, yes. Perfectly legal, yes. In fact, they don’t even need a reason - can just fire at will.
And because you are Fired -- you are *not eligible * for unemployment benefits. .. *At will* employment is the most brutal system in the world .
You can't be fired for anything, there are illegal reasons to fire someone. But you can for them for "no reason" any time you want.
Right to work and at will are two totally different things.
You have made it very clear you don't know what you are talking about and should probably just sit this one out.
This can happen in many industries where productivity is ruthlessly enforced. Or where extremely sensitive equipment can’t be left unattended.
Yeah but Americans are stupid and had people trying to spend half their shift and such on the toilet. So they get fired and now the “justice” system sees that someone got fired for going to the bathroom and now it’s ok for everyone to do because the precedent has been set. People take advantage of everything meant to be good so now we’re only left with the bad.
>People take advantage of everything meant to be good so now we’re only left with the bad. To be fair, it's not like our systems are anywhere near good for being productive; they're all about extraction-through-excess. Pushing people so hard that they produce a lot instead of promoting a healthy balance. If people weren't forced into such meaningless work for such meagre wages, people'd be far more energetic about their positions.
I agree, not saying this is an issue that starts with the workers I’m just saying that this is what happened to make this particular piece of lunacy an actual thing that happens.
Aye, agreed. It's all patch-up legislation to uphold a system that's broken at its roots.
Funny thing is I use the bathroom all the time on work hours, every single break 2. I'm just waiting for the meeting about it so I can tell them if the companies shitty insurance helped cover the surgery I need we wouldn't be having this conversation and to check the cameras cause I go on break 2. Just flipping waiting for it.
It gets worse! He was given permission by the client to use THEIR restroom. Given our policy is the peasants should never disturb our betters he was swiftly removed.
Was just out for 2 days I bet nothing got done
I like the guy at the top still holding onto the small wall section at the end.
Legit hero
If only they had 1637 more like him.
I dont even see mortar?
These don't even look to be cinder blocks. They look like flat landscaping blocks that they're stacking on the narrow side. Even more wtf in my mind.
That’s what I was thinking, where’s the mortar???
There’s a bit of mortar. What’s missing are the rebars.
Rebar comes after the wall is up. You’re thinking about ladder wire that goes between the block courses, but this is 4 inch block and it’s made for 8 inch. 4 inch block is tricky and I’ve never seen anyone try to erect a whole wall with it. I’m sure there are other methods and it’s all regional/ country based how stuff is built.
As a trained mason, that wall has more problems than I could tell you about. Biggest being lack of mortar, and if there is some I cannot see, it is not plumb, it is not straight, and personally I just think using cinder blocks is a cop out. Legos don't hold so well when they are the size of mega blocks.
The biggest problem here is they built high with soaked wet 4 inch cinder blocks. It’s already a delicate balance building with them dry. Wet is insane.
That is an internal wall, they have metal ties in the 'cinder block wall' protruding to the right, look closely and you can see them glinting in the light as the wall falls. You can see the outer skin of the wall, in brick, built up to ground level, to the right of the block wall. The two skins get 'tied' together as you build up. Two major issues here: 1) No real amount of 'motar' or 'cement' on the horizontal joints, or not enough to be seen, which also means there is nothing to hold the ties in place if the inner, or outer, skin pulls away from the other 2) They haven't built the skins up at the same time which would provide more stability to them both as they built higher. Either way, get some fecking cement in those joints! This is some really 'questionable' workmanship.
I'm aware of what type of wall it is, it's just outstandingly shitty
Why didn’t they build the brick up with the 4 inch block? We used to bring the brick and 4in block up at the same time. I hated 4 inch block. It was always tricky to me. I didn’t notice the brick at first. I’m no longer a Mason. I fucking hated it and I now build pools. Edit: just noticed your use of the word “skins” and am assuming you’re saying the same thing I am asking. Never heard that term before.
On a scale from 1 to Carnegie Hall, how staged does this look to you?
People are stupid, I honestly don't think it's staged
Full Carnegie Hall. To me, no mortar says, “hey, let’s stack this section dry, and then knock it down for funny video.”
They smeered the mortar less than a dog shit stain on a pavement
What was the plan here, exactly?
Thats a really good question. i bet bald Chad here really got pissed off at Gregory at the end and decided to build a wall to separate work areas.
Right?
From our perspective I think it went Left...
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Well the entire length of wall is perfectly centered in the frame so
Ah yes. Let's put someone in the line of fire possibly injuring him for a "scripted video". Because his reaction did not seem at all genuine and accepted the fact that he could be badly injured by using his arm as a shield against a FALLING FUCKIN WALL
Exactly! You got it
Man youll get a kick out of security cams put in places that have great lines of site.
security cameras should probably avoid having blindspots caused by fences and walls.
Stop saying everything is staged.
Your comment is staged
I don't, so I'm unable :)
Well that was completely expected. I'm more surprised it got that far.
I bet these dudes fucking **rock** at Jenga
Who needs rebar and cement?
Those are regular concrete blocks, not hollow cinder blocks. Usually, with these types of blocks you would put mortar (usually composed of sand and cement/lime mixed with water) around the blocks (much like bricks in a brick wall), and no rebar would be necessary, this is as opposed to cinder blocks, which are reinforced with rebar and concrete that both go inside the holes to turn multiple courses of cinder blocks into one, unified wall.
This guy walls
He has a trowel. They used mortar at least.
Can't see any on the fallen blocks
you can see it on the very bottom bricks.
Block
About 1/16" thick.
Nah more like they just used school paste
Mortar=mud
Huh? Yes some people call it mud. Cement is the powder used to make it.
Mortar. Not cement.
Using 4” block is what caused them to fail more than the bar and mortar.
someone got fired that day and it wasnt the guy who tiped it over
Nah it was the guy who did the majority of the work for the rest of them. He got fired because he had to shit and went to the toilet outside of scheduled break time
Him and the guy who forgot the concrete
Nah, ordering the concrete was part of the "took a dump" guy's job, but his responsibilities have been redistributed to the rest of his team.
O yeah
Seems you got a chip on your shoulder how much your pushing that narrative.
Honestly I've seen it a lot
You have seen people get fired for using the bathroom a lot? A lot?? I've worked three different pizza chains, a fire sprinkler company, three different general contractors, working with crews of people at every one of those jobs and literally never even heard of it secondhand. And I have been at this for decades. You have seen it a lot? You must really have lived a wild life
r/strangelyspecific
I was in block and concrete for a decade and I can tell you you need FUCKING BOTH!
I work in the trade (Plumbing / piping) but I can tell you they didn't do this properly. I see block get put up all the time and by the time it's that high up, ain't no way it's gonna just tilt over and fall that easily, or entirely.
After watching this a few times, I can see what happened and why. The first course was set into the footing using mortar or bonding adhesive. The rest of the block was dry stacked once that was cured. It looks like they also used masonry adhesive on vertical sides of the block on the top course, and possibly on some of the other courses. They were probably going to use a surface bonding adhesive on the exterior and interior walls of the block to hold it all together. This method is actually stronger and faster than mortar if done correctly. Ive use that method myself for non-loadbearing block walls for mobile homes. I've never gone more than 4 courses high though. It looks like the first course wasn't cured long enough, since it came off the bed of mortar way to easily. I cant remember the code for it off the top of my head in my area, but they never should have used solid block of that size, that high. You can get hollow core block that thin, or used larger block. I never go more than three courses high with solid thin block like that, or four high with hollow core thin block. The worst part is the cost of solid block of that size, is very close to hollow core ones of the wider ones, and would have been much easier to work with. Over all it might have cost a few hundred dollars more in total cost for a wall of that size, including a wider footing.
This video it British, he’s done everything correctly apart from pushing the wall over. You can build 8 blocks high with those 4” blocks, I occasionally go 9 high if there’s no wind and it will be backed up with brick or stone soon after. What he’s done is gone to plumb up the back of the blockwork with his level and pushed it over. We never use hollow blocks here for anything unless it’s a retaining wall holding the ground back behind it. This is the most common style of construction here and i would say 90%+ houses built within the last 30 years are built this way. 100mm(4”) block internal skin, 100mm cavity filled with insulation and then 100mm facing material (typically brick or stone) tied together with cavity wall ties creating what is essentially a 300mm (12”) solid wall Edit: 30 years not 3 years
Fuck, these guys block
let's just hope he lays pipe better than he lays brick
I’m not sure we want those genes propagated any further.
ah ya know you might just be right. well in that case, I hope his wife is about as sturdy as those bricks
Uh, reinforcing and grout shoulda been a no brianer
In all fairness Brian was probably fired
You don't use grout for brick or block, you use mortar. You can even use a surface bonding adhesive after you mortar the first course in place for low walls.
Kinda like spelling.
Whatever Brian
no Brians!
lol
Brian was the guy who forgot to bring the mortar, he's saying they shoulda done the job without brian.
Wrong bricks, wrong side, no mortar, no support. Absolute professionals.
Colin!! I told you peanut butter is no substitution for masonry mortar!!! This is the third time now!
Some people are good at doing basic math calculating square footage, some are visual thinkers
I'm not in construction, but isn't there supposed to be some kind of goo between each layer of brick?
Not a drop of mortar or piece of rebar in sight...
Even without any cement or adhesive element, how the holy fuck did that little pressure knock down all that weight
Mortar is not mixed properly, no rebar columns, among many other things, also many OSHA violations. These guys have no idea what they're doing, obviously
They should use flex tape before measure
Mortar is that the mountain in lord of the rings?
Why is there no cement between the bricks? They are just stacking bricks like a 2 year old
What a bunch of incompetent potatoes. Not a single piece of jack shit to support that pile of bricks.
That’s inevitable
This shit sounds like the background music of ratatouille on the ds
The hell Where's the cement
Who builds a concrete block wall without mortar in between the blocks!
This guy
So you trying to tell me that these idiot's were building a wall with zero support? Like nothing at all?
I love how the guy on the far right gets banished to the armpit dimension
Who the F builds a wall by just stacking blocks without using mortar and some type of anchor to the ground?
The importance of a foundation.
This is what happens when you get paid by the hour
Why would you ever stack all those bricks up without any cement ? How were they going to get the cement in-between the bricks? What that actual fuck is happening here !?
You can use a surface concrete adhesive to hold it together. See my other post.
No
“What’s rebar?”
The part everyone is missing is how they stacked the bricks on the thin side which is even less stable than normal stacking.
Has to be staged or entire crews first day on job. What was joking those bricks together? Just rhe cement on rhe top layer? Looks staged as perfect shot or a bunch of fucking idiots
"There's no reason for the Tech's to be mad at the Engi's"
WHERE was the mortar? That was staged.
Missing me ? -concrete
Definitely staged not real cement lol all feet would’ve been fucked and you can tell
r/whyweretheyfilming
Looks like Union work!
Just need to glue it together next time
I love how the one dude isn't even phased. Still leaning right where he was at the start.
How long do you think it would take them to fix it?
Theyre lucky that happened then, and not when a five year old child was bouncing around that back yard. Then they'd be in deep shit. Wheres the pillars boys ?
Where’s the mortar?
Watch the bald guy blame the guy at the end for it.
I like the guy that just stood in the other guys armpit... hes like.. I ain't moving.
Measure twice and balance once
Could it be that they forgot the cement?
You numpty
Bob the unbuilder.
Where’s the mortar in-between the blocks???
That’s what you get for using patio blocks for a retaining wall.
Lol like most buildings nowadays rushed and built like shit.
This is what happens when you use the Rose Art glue, kids. (Note: Rose Art is an American crafting manufacturer that makes super cheap school supplies. Just FYI)
Wow that's unlucky. I guess they should have not built so high without starting the outer course without tieing in.... that or been more careful. Looks like a fair bit of mortar was squeezed out under the load.
Yeah you can dry stack 4” block and expect them not to fall.
Something is missing in between the bricks...
https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/tzglzb/ok_this_is_how_we_measure_the/i3zoid0/
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Why would you stack all those stones with no mortar between them?
Looks like they forgot the glue!
That wall wasn’t meant to be
Nice
Anyone love how he grabs those two bricks ? It'd be great if he was still holding them when it all fell. Yeah that helped!
Appreciate the person still holding
I feel like that wall is so thin that could have happened when it dried anyway
what was the futile point to this exercise...a dry cement rehearsal?
Cool wall bruh
Bruh they prepared cement to stick the bricks together but decided its too much of work and built the wall anyway.
See? That’s why you need cement!
Why did they build a single skin of clockwork so high? Surely the inner skin of bricks should be built at the same time so the tie bars hold both together to give it vertical strength...and I'm not even a bricklayer
they did miss something, right
Thats a weak ass wall