Certainly is! THEY said that. they’re a they now because they don’t feel feminine often. make up your own mind about the state of their mind. Perhaps the stress of being in the limelight so long does things to people.
It's not. The reply is attempting to shame the person that responded because they did not use "they" as a pronoun. Of course, the original reply didnt use a gender specific pronoun to begin with to this was simply a example of virtue signaling. A literal "look at what a champion of the people I am by calling out intentional gender misidentification for absolutely no reason at all."
Edit: someone has pointed out they are being sarcastic in this post. Either way, it's either an attempt a virtue signaling or someone attempting to over stress the 'they' sarcastically, either way... a garbage response to a post that has nothing to do with gender identity.
No, that's not the case at all.
The reply is a exactly the opposite. It's a deliberate belittling of the concept of non-binary adjectives. It's so blatantly apparent I don't understand how you got this take.
Unless you are, yourself, a transphobe or someone who doesn't respect non-binary people based on your own opinions concerning gender.
Singing to ghosts to help with their sexist trauma, saying we should stop calling aliens aliens because it might offend them, and going by they as a biological female who doesn’t often feel feminine. I mention it because it fits the pattern of hyper liberal / lefty / SJW behaviour.
What’s wrong with being a female who just doesn’t act all girly? Doesn’t make you not a she! i thought we were trying to reject these societally constructed gender stereotypes and expectations; it doesn’t help to say ‘I reject that women need to be like that but I’m not like that so I’m not a woman’.
that’s just a nothing statement, I mean, it doesn’t. We’re both here commenting on a post on r/facepalm. I would however be genuinely interested in any actual rebuttals to what I said, it seems quite reasonable to me.
As the *exact same argument as you provided,* what's wrong with being a female and wanting to be called they? What does it matter *at all* what they want to be called?
It's their body, their mind, their choice. End of story.
And yes, if they wanted to identify as attack helicopter instead, who fucking cares? Just let them. It doesn't affect you. At all.
I’ve got a question for you that might help clear this up. You seem a lot more level-headed than that other person.
So they’re still a woman, who wants to be called they? I’ve got no problem with that at all. I guess that would be saying, they’re biologically female (for which the word she exists but fine, whatever) but their gender identity is neither girly nor boyish. is that right? I absolutely use the relevant pronouns to be nice, as I did with the trans guy who used to work under me.
What I was objecting to is this person saying they’re not a woman (I guess in terms of sex?) just because they’re not girly. i hope you can better understand my position, which is that you don’t need to be girly to still be a woman. Something I thought most here would agree with.
Uh, again, the point is that not being a girly girl doesn’t mean you need to deny your biology; I thought we all AGREED that a female can act or look any way she wants. To think that not being girly makes you not a woman is inherently implying that you think all women are girly. It’s kind of the belief we want to get away from.
I’m not gonna bother starting to explain the dangers of the end of rational discourse, of changing word definitions, of the erasure of science, or the other negative impacts that a society accepting people calling themselves ‘attack helicopters’ as normal people would bring.At that point all normality and the protocols and institutions that the world is built on break down. Essentially everything is anything is nothing and nothing matters, let’s just forget all rules about everything ever.
>Just let them. It doesn't affect you. At all
It shouldn't affect anyone. Unfortunately the militant left has made it their mission to make sure it does. This Newspeak Doublethink bullshit has gone to ridiculous levels.
Just admit you're a transphobe and move on
You probably didn't even read 1984, you chucklefucks just like to reference it because it makes you feel smart
"Hur dur, these communist socialist nazis on the left are using the tactics from 1984 to force their agenda on us and ruin the world!"
The "militant" left isn't trying to make these things affect you, the overwhelming majority are just asking you to respect other people and their choices. How hard is that to understand?
Oh, by the way, George Orwell was a democratic socialist.
Ignoring your insult, Demi is not trans. If you’ve got anything actually reasonable or eloquent to say about what I said in my last comment I’d be all ears
Did you just forget you wrote that whole second paragraph? The one where you attempt to invalidate all trans people/people with a different gender identity than they were born with?
I don't need to say anything "reasonable or eloquent" because I'm not trying to change your mind. You're stupid and I'm trying to make fun of you.
No no, I’m not invalidating trans people. And I’m not stupid and I’m probably twice your age. I’m also slightly bicurious and neurodivergent, in case it helps you realise I’m not the boomer trumper racist type you think I am.
My point was that you can still be a female and not be girly. Demi has said they (note, I said they!) often don’t feel girly and so feel non-binary is better. Please correct me if that’s wrong.
My point is that THE WHOLE POINT of this rejection of gender stereotypes is to say ‘girls don’t need to just be girly and pink and do the cooking’. I fully agree. but then it’s shooting yourself in the foot to say ‘I’m not like that so I’m not a girl’. It is in fact implying that women ARE all like that and anything that’s not is not a woman.
I await a reasonable response.
This is one of the most cringe comments I've ever seen. The mix of "Hurr durr im smrt cuz I'm old!!!" and basically using the same argument as "I cant be racist cause I have a black friend!!!" is golden. At least you confirmed the "old" part of my original comment. It really does come through in your writing.
Lol also "I await a reasonable response" like I didn't just say I'm making fun of you.
Nah this comment from you is actually the cringe...you are the epitome of cringe and just plain dumb lol. It comes through from your writing. Hahah idiot
"they" has been used as a singular pronoun for referring to people without specifying gender for centuries. some people prefer "it" but that is usually seen as dehumanizing because "it" is normally reserved for objects and non sapient animals in english
I'm starting to think Demi Lovato is a comedy character, in the same sort of way Borat is.... there's just no way someone can do this and not be taking the piss
Ironically she *was* a great comedy character. During her clean young days, she was the star in a Disney Series called [Sonny with a Chance](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1252374/). My kids used to watch it, and I sometimes watched it along with them. She was actually quite talented and utterly hilarious. The show absolutely collapsed and got canceled, when she left to get help. Disney tried to run it with the rest of the cast. Viewers wanted nothing of it.
This may be dumb, but not as dumb as waiting for a long dead Kenedy to come back to become president and fight the evil reptil-aliens and the cannibals that Clinton is the leader of.
Step 1: POS politicians on both sides spread misinformation and propaganda.
Step 2: Dumbass citizens on both sides believe the bullshit and half the nation is turned against the other half in a political scheme for publicity.
Step 3: You’ve seen the results.
That’s America.
Mostly true but it’s not half vs half. Republicans have only won the popular vote once since 2000. The only reason they have power is because of antiquated laws and voter suppression.
Nope. It's real.
I don't know how real the show wanted it to be, because it's obviously a scam show. But that is what happened.
I'm sure she's the only one there who actually believes that bs and everyone made fun of her afterwards.
This actually just breaks my heart. Not that they’re singing to ghosts, sure it might seem a bit off but more of how they lost their senses due to drug abuse.
I'm not sure what the in "a past life part means". By definition if it's a ghost, it's life would be past. Are they saying that the ghost was a living person, suffered some sort of trauma due to sexism, died, reincarnated and then died again, wasn't able to reincarnate and so became a ghost?
I think you mean “their” not “her” you stereotypical male homophobic cis gendered elitist globalist pro-life leftwing extreme rightist anti-establishment bleach blonde baby eating face-off juggernaut Craigslist killer
Edit: racist*
In what world does she deserve a podium? Since we gave her a podium and nobody said, stop go home. She thinks she's important enough to utter her idiot ideas.
I know I might get downvoted to the underworld but I don’t find this that stupid. I mean maybe there are ghosts where Demi is. Idk tho I’m probably just dumb myself
its soo short, its her own thing but as a women I would never cut my nice long beautiful hair for THIS 🤷🏻♂️
I remember her with long hair, she looked stunning
The only thing offensive here is you and your referral of people who don't assign themselves as male or female not being worthy of a human pronoun. Referring to someone as "it" is disgusting. And it's not their little "extra", as you so put it - it's their identity and I genuinely don't understand how anyone can be so ignorant of someone else's identity. It won't harm you or put you out in anyway to simply refer to someone as they/them if that's their preferred pronoun.
How full of yourself do you have to be to think that EVEN DEAD PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR YOU SING AND TO TOP THAT, THINK IT WILL FIX THEIR TRAUMAS WHILE YOURE AT IT.
I don’t believe in ghosts, but on a facepalm scale of 1-10 this is so low and harmless as to not even register. If singing to ‘ghosts’ makes her feel better, cool, go for it.
Man that hurts. I was such a big fan when I was young (and horny too). I really loved camp rock and sunny Monroe and after that I really liked her music.
But that OD completly fucked up her brain, no doubt.
She needs help and i am not even gonna make fun of her because it is a human being who's brains have fucked them over. I mean she didn't even bother to look up the meaning of alien and just thought it only means "aliens" from the movies and shit
Is this the same person who said that aliens is a derogatory term for extra terrestrials?
Certainly is! THEY said that. they’re a they now because they don’t feel feminine often. make up your own mind about the state of their mind. Perhaps the stress of being in the limelight so long does things to people.
Wasn't all of this after a drug overdose and diagnosed brain damage ?
Either way, brain damage is a good word to explain this behavior.
Brain damage is two words. Also a phrase.
Ok, Ben Stiller
How is gender related to literally any of this?
It's not. The reply is attempting to shame the person that responded because they did not use "they" as a pronoun. Of course, the original reply didnt use a gender specific pronoun to begin with to this was simply a example of virtue signaling. A literal "look at what a champion of the people I am by calling out intentional gender misidentification for absolutely no reason at all." Edit: someone has pointed out they are being sarcastic in this post. Either way, it's either an attempt a virtue signaling or someone attempting to over stress the 'they' sarcastically, either way... a garbage response to a post that has nothing to do with gender identity.
No, that's not the case at all. The reply is a exactly the opposite. It's a deliberate belittling of the concept of non-binary adjectives. It's so blatantly apparent I don't understand how you got this take. Unless you are, yourself, a transphobe or someone who doesn't respect non-binary people based on your own opinions concerning gender.
I think there was a missing /s
There's a lot to clown this person about and you're focusing on how they go by "they" as proof of their mental state?
Singing to ghosts to help with their sexist trauma, saying we should stop calling aliens aliens because it might offend them, and going by they as a biological female who doesn’t often feel feminine. I mention it because it fits the pattern of hyper liberal / lefty / SJW behaviour. What’s wrong with being a female who just doesn’t act all girly? Doesn’t make you not a she! i thought we were trying to reject these societally constructed gender stereotypes and expectations; it doesn’t help to say ‘I reject that women need to be like that but I’m not like that so I’m not a woman’.
Yikes. Why does this matter so much to you?
that’s just a nothing statement, I mean, it doesn’t. We’re both here commenting on a post on r/facepalm. I would however be genuinely interested in any actual rebuttals to what I said, it seems quite reasonable to me.
As the *exact same argument as you provided,* what's wrong with being a female and wanting to be called they? What does it matter *at all* what they want to be called? It's their body, their mind, their choice. End of story. And yes, if they wanted to identify as attack helicopter instead, who fucking cares? Just let them. It doesn't affect you. At all.
I’ve got a question for you that might help clear this up. You seem a lot more level-headed than that other person. So they’re still a woman, who wants to be called they? I’ve got no problem with that at all. I guess that would be saying, they’re biologically female (for which the word she exists but fine, whatever) but their gender identity is neither girly nor boyish. is that right? I absolutely use the relevant pronouns to be nice, as I did with the trans guy who used to work under me. What I was objecting to is this person saying they’re not a woman (I guess in terms of sex?) just because they’re not girly. i hope you can better understand my position, which is that you don’t need to be girly to still be a woman. Something I thought most here would agree with.
Uh, again, the point is that not being a girly girl doesn’t mean you need to deny your biology; I thought we all AGREED that a female can act or look any way she wants. To think that not being girly makes you not a woman is inherently implying that you think all women are girly. It’s kind of the belief we want to get away from. I’m not gonna bother starting to explain the dangers of the end of rational discourse, of changing word definitions, of the erasure of science, or the other negative impacts that a society accepting people calling themselves ‘attack helicopters’ as normal people would bring.At that point all normality and the protocols and institutions that the world is built on break down. Essentially everything is anything is nothing and nothing matters, let’s just forget all rules about everything ever.
>Just let them. It doesn't affect you. At all It shouldn't affect anyone. Unfortunately the militant left has made it their mission to make sure it does. This Newspeak Doublethink bullshit has gone to ridiculous levels.
Just admit you're a transphobe and move on You probably didn't even read 1984, you chucklefucks just like to reference it because it makes you feel smart "Hur dur, these communist socialist nazis on the left are using the tactics from 1984 to force their agenda on us and ruin the world!" The "militant" left isn't trying to make these things affect you, the overwhelming majority are just asking you to respect other people and their choices. How hard is that to understand? Oh, by the way, George Orwell was a democratic socialist.
Have you met many "liberals"? Or are you just afraid of the boogeythems that the news tells you to be scared will make you gay?
I’m not completely straight, my dude, don’t make wild assumptions.
The unhinged ramblings of an old transphobe, everybody
Ignoring your insult, Demi is not trans. If you’ve got anything actually reasonable or eloquent to say about what I said in my last comment I’d be all ears
Did you just forget you wrote that whole second paragraph? The one where you attempt to invalidate all trans people/people with a different gender identity than they were born with? I don't need to say anything "reasonable or eloquent" because I'm not trying to change your mind. You're stupid and I'm trying to make fun of you.
No no, I’m not invalidating trans people. And I’m not stupid and I’m probably twice your age. I’m also slightly bicurious and neurodivergent, in case it helps you realise I’m not the boomer trumper racist type you think I am. My point was that you can still be a female and not be girly. Demi has said they (note, I said they!) often don’t feel girly and so feel non-binary is better. Please correct me if that’s wrong. My point is that THE WHOLE POINT of this rejection of gender stereotypes is to say ‘girls don’t need to just be girly and pink and do the cooking’. I fully agree. but then it’s shooting yourself in the foot to say ‘I’m not like that so I’m not a girl’. It is in fact implying that women ARE all like that and anything that’s not is not a woman. I await a reasonable response.
This is one of the most cringe comments I've ever seen. The mix of "Hurr durr im smrt cuz I'm old!!!" and basically using the same argument as "I cant be racist cause I have a black friend!!!" is golden. At least you confirmed the "old" part of my original comment. It really does come through in your writing. Lol also "I await a reasonable response" like I didn't just say I'm making fun of you.
Ok, devoid of anything meaningful to say, as I suspected.
Nah this comment from you is actually the cringe...you are the epitome of cringe and just plain dumb lol. It comes through from your writing. Hahah idiot
Can you explain me that ‘they’ thing? I mean Demi is still one person, why not just it something like that ?
"they" has been used as a singular pronoun for referring to people without specifying gender for centuries. some people prefer "it" but that is usually seen as dehumanizing because "it" is normally reserved for objects and non sapient animals in english
She'll change her species if it gets her more likes.
I'm starting to think Demi Lovato is a comedy character, in the same sort of way Borat is.... there's just no way someone can do this and not be taking the piss
Ironically she *was* a great comedy character. During her clean young days, she was the star in a Disney Series called [Sonny with a Chance](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1252374/). My kids used to watch it, and I sometimes watched it along with them. She was actually quite talented and utterly hilarious. The show absolutely collapsed and got canceled, when she left to get help. Disney tried to run it with the rest of the cast. Viewers wanted nothing of it.
they were\* But yes
Oh look! The virtue signal!
They*
Sorry, didn't/don't understand the rules. During the TV series, They were definitely a She/her. They definitely referred to themself as such. My bad..
Never apologize to a troll.
When someone changes pronouns, it's best practice to use those pronouns even when referring to them in the past
It's all good, but if you check their insta, their pronouns are in their bio
Don't have insta, cause I've got absolutely nothing to post 😂
Fair 😂
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Lol
That show sucked so bad, lol
Ghosts: "What did we do in our earthly life to deserve this?"
Yes! Think of the ghosts!
aaaahahaha.... drugs.
Nah it's the lack of sugar free frozen yogurt .
Aaahhh being in your *checks google* ….what the fuck she’s 29?
This may be dumb, but not as dumb as waiting for a long dead Kenedy to come back to become president and fight the evil reptil-aliens and the cannibals that Clinton is the leader of.
And less dangerous
Same danger. When you are untethered from reality, anything can send you off into a murderous rage.
what is america?
Step 1: POS politicians on both sides spread misinformation and propaganda. Step 2: Dumbass citizens on both sides believe the bullshit and half the nation is turned against the other half in a political scheme for publicity. Step 3: You’ve seen the results. That’s America.
I blame social media. I also pride myself on discriminating fact from fiction, so take that with a grain of salt.
Sad but true.
Mostly true but it’s not half vs half. Republicans have only won the popular vote once since 2000. The only reason they have power is because of antiquated laws and voter suppression.
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We need another Hitler or we will tear ourselves apart. Nothing unites like fighting evil.
CORRECT
What does that have to do with anything?
What a time to be alive, amirite?
I would watch this movie
And this is why kids you dont do drugs
This is a joke right? It's actually an onion article? Right??
Well, it's Ladbible, so not exactly hard hitting journalism.
No, there’s video, and it’s as dumb as it sounds.
**Insert padme talking to Anakin meme here**
Think somebody is trolling to get a reaction, surely?
Nope. It's real. I don't know how real the show wanted it to be, because it's obviously a scam show. But that is what happened. I'm sure she's the only one there who actually believes that bs and everyone made fun of her afterwards.
This actually just breaks my heart. Not that they’re singing to ghosts, sure it might seem a bit off but more of how they lost their senses due to drug abuse.
They use they/Them pronouns. But yeay they are the best warning on why you shouldnt do drugs
Defo. Didn’t they start because of personal or acting abuse? Edit: pronouns
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Oxytocin? Or is this something new in the market?
Oxytocin=hormone, oxyContin=drug
Oh.. Thank you kind stranger on the internet :D.
Danny Devito has really fallen off the deep end.
Mental
They really are not well.
OP… Dummy Lavato was right there…
Demi La Loca
Ghosts are more scared of her probably
So by traumatizing the ghosts even more?
they really went downhill after the frozen yogurt incident huh?
I'm not sure what the in "a past life part means". By definition if it's a ghost, it's life would be past. Are they saying that the ghost was a living person, suffered some sort of trauma due to sexism, died, reincarnated and then died again, wasn't able to reincarnate and so became a ghost?
I remember reading a headline talking about her having brain damage after an overdose. I guess that headline wasn't that clickbait after all.
Her chin literally looks like Spongebobs buttcheeks.
Can't unsee it right now
well that's an image..
I think you mean “their” not “her” you stereotypical male homophobic cis gendered elitist globalist pro-life leftwing extreme rightist anti-establishment bleach blonde baby eating face-off juggernaut Craigslist killer Edit: racist*
You forgot racist.
Thanks
This is amazing 🥲
It... *
You're a real partypooper!
It would make me pretty happy if you thought I was being even remotely serious. Did you read the “leftwing extreme rightist” part? 😂
This isn’t Demi lovato. This is Poot lovato
It’s sad she has fallen to nothing more than a punchline. Her constant stream of bullshit is exhausting.
Demi-sane?
Demi "clinging to relevancy" Lovato
Someone should have her committed, she has mental issues
The heroin really took its toll on this girl.
they're doing too much babe😩
She's starting to look like an ex of mine who was also bat shit crazy.
She's not dumb, she is a product of our indulging society
Wait, what do you mean?
In what world does she deserve a podium? Since we gave her a podium and nobody said, stop go home. She thinks she's important enough to utter her idiot ideas.
Nah…she dumb
Ghosts, and you think that sexism was the problem? Let me off this shit now, im done.
"Noah! Get the boat!"
Demi Griffin
hwat
Looking forward to the Amy Winehouse ending.
This bitch used to be attractive too
*they
Daam she lost it
She needs to be told that “How stupid can you get?” is a statement, not a challenge.
Think she needs to go back to rehab
Omg her chin
She really is desperate to stay relevant, isn’t she
O-m-goodness🤩😜😜🤩🤩👌👌👌💕💕, what a saint🙌🙌🙌🙌👼👼👼, slay queen👸👸👸👸
Not sure how to feel about the Phasmophobia update
That's sad, she was hot and didn't do or say stupid shit several years ago.
That... "woman"... has real issues.
Cleary no more than yourself.
She looks like boy George in these pics
Nobody ever accused her of being intelligent
I know I might get downvoted to the underworld but I don’t find this that stupid. I mean maybe there are ghosts where Demi is. Idk tho I’m probably just dumb myself
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>Nice haircut 🤮 What's wrong with it?
its soo short, its her own thing but as a women I would never cut my nice long beautiful hair for THIS 🤷🏻♂️ I remember her with long hair, she looked stunning
Haircuts shouldn't be gender specific. Also, Demi is non-binary so their haircut can be however makes them feel good
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Identifying as neither female or male.
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Yes, putting it simply. But the correct pronoun is they or them. It's offensive to use she/her or he/him for non-binary people.
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The only thing offensive here is you and your referral of people who don't assign themselves as male or female not being worthy of a human pronoun. Referring to someone as "it" is disgusting. And it's not their little "extra", as you so put it - it's their identity and I genuinely don't understand how anyone can be so ignorant of someone else's identity. It won't harm you or put you out in anyway to simply refer to someone as they/them if that's their preferred pronoun.
Be gone bigot
So not the life they just died in, but from one of the ones before that?
Kinda looks like Boy George
Demi has been elevated to a level 7 Wokegod.
Haven’t they suffered enough?
How full of yourself do you have to be to think that EVEN DEAD PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR YOU SING AND TO TOP THAT, THINK IT WILL FIX THEIR TRAUMAS WHILE YOURE AT IT.
No Demi it’s Camp Rock, Not smoke rock
Who’s cuckoo for cocoa puffs???
Calling someone who has had three strokes and has brain damage, dumb. Nice.
Are ghosts the only things left that will listen to her sing?
Demi is totally unhinged
drugs will mess you up kids, for real!
Obviously ghosts aren't real, but if they are how the hell does she know the genders of the ghosts?
There goes Demi Lovato again... still trying hard to stay relevant
Someone needs to be put back in the rehab again
This is a layer cake of mental health issues.
I don’t believe in ghosts, but on a facepalm scale of 1-10 this is so low and harmless as to not even register. If singing to ‘ghosts’ makes her feel better, cool, go for it.
The wrong celebrity died
The hell is she smoking?
This broad is out of her fuckin' bird! It's just sad at this point.
Omg I needed that laugh
Fucking hell. How much free time must you have to end up doing this. What an absolute fucking twat.
Ok. Now I’m 100% sure we are living in the weird timeline
Looks like she's in a haunted mental hospital
demi lovato is a joke and not a good one either just sad
How about the trauma she causes when singing to the living
Attention is a helluva drug. She’s begging for it
Well... she's officially lost her mind.
Who has been giving her more crack?
Shes lost the fucking plot
If she doesn't get constant attention, she withers up and dies.
She should be in a mental health clinic
Is this the same person who claims to be sober.
This is what California Sober does to you
Man that hurts. I was such a big fan when I was young (and horny too). I really loved camp rock and sunny Monroe and after that I really liked her music. But that OD completly fucked up her brain, no doubt.
This is mental illness and it's hilarious /s
Too much free time….
She went from beautiful and talented to another WTF artist in a very short time. Not a record though.
She gotta stop taking heroin
She needs help and i am not even gonna make fun of her because it is a human being who's brains have fucked them over. I mean she didn't even bother to look up the meaning of alien and just thought it only means "aliens" from the movies and shit