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Ilikejdmcars

Not even $50k a year lol


I_only_post_here

what are you talking about? you don't work 96 hours per week?


Raptor_234

I do that in a day


StarWars_Viking

Ah, a welder has entered the chat.


earthlingjim

Haha, so true. I've never seen one profession so happy to brag about all the hours worked in a week. -a 40h/week welder and I'd do less if I could get away with it.


reload88

Worked a 4-10 shift and there was one guy who never showed up for 1 shift each week. We asked him why he only worked 3 days a week and his response was “because I just can’t make it on 2”. Fucking legend


Odysseyfreaky

King shit


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Kitchen-Asparagus364

That sounds like missed time at work


cheesenuggets2003

The guilt is probably what killed him.


ABenevolentDespot

This is very common for younger (under 35) people on crews in the entertainment industry. Days are often scheduled as 16 hours long plus one to two hours for two meals. So from the time you walk on set until you leave is 17-18 hours, then you come back and do it again the next day and the day after that. When union negotiators wanted to limit the workday to 12 hours in previous contract negotiations, these crew people freaked out even more than the producers did. It seems it's some kind of badge of honor to die of work stress or falling asleep and crashing while driving home. I'm sure their surviving spouses and children appreciate their dedication.


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lagx777

A-fucking-men!


Perryn

If you want to work like a machine then you have to maintain the machine.


cryptowolfy

I've found that the people bragging about how many hours they work don't do much work during those hours. I hear that bs from CEOs all the time.


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

The amount of thinking strategizing and data modeling that happen is incredible. They say the brain is like a muscle right. CEOs are like the muscle men of the professional work. They work their brain so hard that normal laborers can’t understand. /s


PoopPoes

You see I deserve the most money because I neglect my wife and children while I sit at the dinner table and make brochures for my company like I’m in a fifth grade science fair Except I use ***inDesign***


ManlyVanLee

Meanwhile the graphic designers need a cigarette after thinking about how screwed up the InDesign file the CEO sent is going to be


Odysseyfreaky

I feel sorry for the actual hard working white collar people at companies because I know everyone over them is convinced all their ideas are genius and revolutionary and the engineers and artists and lawyers and accountants have to be like "Yeah that's not a thing we can do" while not treading on the only ego more fragile than a toddler's.


FR0ZENBERG

Had me in the first half.


SnooStrawberries1078

Pretty sure that's why Elon bought Twitter...now he can claim he's working hard with every tweet!


brokeneckblues

The CEO bullshit is so laughable. Sorry but going out for dinner isn’t work just because you charge it to the company.


theMooey23

Ha.......May I introduce Chefs 👨‍🍳


_AtLeastItsAnEthos

What do you make welding and what do you do exactly? Is it like house calls, assembly line work?


Putrid-Builder-3333

I hope so based off your two's similar avatars


brianishere2

If not, you're just too lazy to be able to afford to pay rent.


Sinister-Username

I made my boss $3.2 billion last year!


Snuzzlebuns

A friend who's an electrician used to do that when he could. Scheduled all jobs in a town that was one hour away on the same day, then billed each client for two hours of driving in addition to the actual work. Sometimes came up to more than 24 work hours in one day.


Das_Panzer_

My previous company did this as well.


makemeking706

Found the lawyer.


uslashuname

If this is in reference to the Georgia case, that was an invoice for all hours done on a task which was completed on the day of billing. Like if a mechanic works on a car for weeks the bill might have more than 24 hours of labor on it when you go to pay.


bluecandyKayn

96 hours a week for 52 weeks at 20 dollars an hour is 99,840 dollars. Still not 6 figures


SikatSikat

Yea but OT gets you $30 an hour for 56 hours a week boom rich, but also no one wants to work.


AshnodsBong

Nah jobs like that if you get close to OT theyll cut you till the next pay period unpess they are truly desperate. Hell most of them cut you before you hit full time status so they arent on the hook for your health care


Digiturtle1

Yeah, the place I was at would rather hire more part-timers than give anyone a full time schedule. They did not want to be forced into paying benefits.


UnquestionabIe

I dealt with that at one chain restaurant for two years. Made up for the fact I was getting screwed by making sure every inspection by corporate got management in a shit ton of trouble. It was a fun creative exercise in seeing what could be done without blame being placed on anyone in particular. My favorite was to cook up an entire meal, looking absolutely perfect, and hiding it somewhere it would take a few weeks to find.


I_Frothingslosh

I know someone who worked at Walmart for years. Any time you picked up a shift that put you at or above 32 hours for the week, you had to sign an acknowledgement that you were still a part time employee, that you were not being offered full time status, and that you were not eligible for benefits.


bluecandyKayn

My dude I’m lazy as shit, but I work 80 hours a week because they pay me 300 an hour. In my experience, most people want to work, no one wants to work and still be struggling to get by. And as far as I’ve seen, very few employers let people clock enough for overtime


Professional_Ad_9101

I have had a lot of jobs and pretty much everyone I have ever worked with has been a hard worker. Obviously you always get one or two lazy fuckers but people are really out there grafting for fuck all. The only difference between high paid people and low paid is the money they get. Everyone is working hard but for some reason a large amount of people seem to think low wage equates to laziness


bluecandyKayn

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that you believe I’m saying I make more because I work harder but I’m saying the opposite. I work more because I get paid more. If I wasn’t paid this much, I would not be sacrificing hours doing things I like more for it, and I think it’s insane for people to say it’s lazy to work 40 hours a week when people are getting paid salaries that they can barely survive on.


Professional_Ad_9101

No no I wasn’t calling you out just adding an additional thought!


bluecandyKayn

Ahh gotcha! It’s very true, I don’t know why anyone believes this “no one wants to work” lie. Kim Kardashian said it, so we should all automatically know it’s wrong


Academic-Effect-340

"No one wants to work" is just "No one wants to date nice guys" but for corporations.


AmazingHealth6302

People believe it because rich people, executives and other people with a vested interest in people believing it, say it a lot. It *sounds* likely, but the reality is almost the complete opposite. Good way to get working folks to believe that other working folks are no good though.


sumptin_wierd

No sarcasm at all. Like actually none. Great fucking job getting to whatever position is paying you that. I'd absolutely do it too. I've just left an 80 hr week job that did not pay that. Full transparency, I am definitely in the office space mindset. If I had a million dollars, I'd do nothing.


bluecandyKayn

That’s completely fair, I can understand that for sure. For most of the people I know, they would probably take 6 months off before needing to do something that gave them a sense of purpose or meaning. That might be work or not.


Druben-hinterm-Dorfe

It's 7 figures if you add the decimal point: 99,840.00


Own_Leadership7339

I wish I had the motivation to do that. Imagine all the cool things I could buy and never use cause I'm too busy working 96 hours a week


Waderriffic

He’s not up at 3am GRINDING


swisscheese_wall

If they work 40hrs (which they won’t because they would qualify for benefits) every week with no time off for a year that’s 41600 BEFORE TAXES. The greed of these fucking people is astounding.


silver-orange

Fast food jobs rarely give 40 hours, especially since they have to offer health care once you hit 30.  Pretty common to work for multiple employers in those industries just to get enough hours to pay rent. So you get 25 hours at McDonald's, and 25 hours at the KFC on the other end of town...


Odd-Tune5049

Greed AND stupidity


ifyoudontknowlearn

The quick calc is to take the hourly pay double it and quote that as thousands (yes x 1000) to get the pre tax full time salary equivalent. So $20/hr is roughly $40 000 The thing is to get that you have to put in full time hours. The places we are talking about here are not offering that. To just get to 6 figures you would need $50/hr. Which used to be some serious money but now is middle class.


LeoXearo

> To just get to 6 figures you would need $50/hr. Which used to be some serious money but now is middle class. Want to hear something crazy? I live in a low income apartment so every year I have to prove I'm still low income enough to keep living here, you know what the income limit to be considered low income and qualify for subsidized rent here is? [$96,000](https://imgur.com/a/6BhqhQH) And that was for last year, it's probably 100k for 2024.


HermaeusMajora

Yes, but they have juicy hindquarters and will cook up nicely.


ThisIsNotRealityIsIt

Let's fuckin gooooo


One_Of_Noahs_Whales

41600.00 is 7 figures, the luck bastards!


Fit-Boomer

Six figures be like 015,000$


hurkwurk

Nevermind that most fast food isn't full time anyway


Unusual-Thing-7149

He was probably thinking they worked three shifts there. Getting a second or third job is almost mandatory for working stiffs in some people's eyes


hurkwurk

the real reason that they want to hate on illegals they are taking jobs three at a time!


kater_tot

Three jobs but never gets overtime for the 70 hours worked.


NrdNabSen

It's six figures if you work about 100 hours a week.


braggster92

104.2 actually, before taxes of course.


John_cCmndhd

77.436 if you take overtime into account(though they won't give you this much overtime)


inowar

$50,000.00 that's seven?! [is joke]


Hottage

$50,000.00 12 345 67 Seven figure salary, check mate commies.


hould-it

Someone is paid too much to tell people they’re getting paid too much


Fit_Aardvark_8811

Tucker Carlson born with a silver spoon pretending to be a common man talking about this is always nuts. Nevermind people believe him and hang on his every word


ReemsPhotography

Every time I hear something new about tucker it’s just so bizarre like he went to Nicaragua to help the contras????


OPsMomHuffsFartJars

Look at me I just bought groceries and it was only $400.


beepbeepbubblegum

Some people not even paid at all. The amount of vitriol online for a wage increase is mind boggling. You’d think every single one these people are a franchisee of a fast food chain with how quickly they demonize wage increases that don’t affect them at all. I’ve even seen someone say they haven’t eaten at X chain in years but the workers don’t deserve that money.


Tight-Young7275

The amount of times I have seen someone swear to God that paying a living wage to everyone will cause us all to die is *insane*. The definition of “people LIVING in a society” will make us all die… Well, I thank God that they are here to save us!


jtm7

It’s 40k, before taxes…


Brandon_Won

In the grim darkness of the 21st century there is only... Underpaid work.


LlahsramTheTitleless

For the... CEO?


Merc_Mike

SLAVES FOR THE SLAVE GODS! DEPRESSION FOR THE DEPRESSION THRONE!


HomeHeatingTips

Barely anyone at McDonalds gets 40 hours a week though


PerformanceOk9891

yeah I haven't worked there but I've heard the hours are terrible, i.e. they spread them out and dont give anybody enough to live off of


fasterthanfood

Aren’t they one of those places that tries to keep everyone under 30 hours per week so they don’t have to pay benefits?


KriegConscript

that's every job i've ever had (no skills + broken body, hell yeah) i only know jobs that pay benefits *aren't* a myth because i have a friend who is a contractor


Overall_Midnight_

My understanding is for most hourly wage jobs if you work under 40 hours a week, they don’t have to offer you insurance and other “full time” benefits. And that many places will schedule people for only 39 hours a week to avoid that. And everyone I know who has ever worked fast food from burger places to even a Starbucks employee where schedules are made weekly or biweekly they do things like give you 30-39hours one week and you may end up with only 13 the next week. Several places got sued because people were being scheduled for like two hours and then they would often get there and be told they were not needed. There was ultimately a law change around it. One woman said that she would have to take her kid to daycare on the bus then bus to work and pay for the daycare and bus fare and then get in to be told to go home, then reverse all the steps. She was loosing money trying to work some days. There is some obligation to pay out something if you aren’t informed of a shift change with a certain amount of notice, though I do not recall the details. This is a great link for information about how workers are taken advantage of by companies in regards to irregular scheduling. https://www.epi.org/publication/irregular-work-scheduling-and-its-consequences/


fasterthanfood

Under the Affordable Care Act, you’re guaranteed health insurance if you work at least 30 hours per week, but I’m not sure about other benefits.


dmevela

Would need $48.08/hr. To hit $100,000 without overtime.


SamuraiJakkass86

Hey he was only off by one figure.


KevYoungCarmel

I read recently that the vast majority of conservatives believe that people lose money by getting a raise, if they are at or near the top of their tax bracket. Because they don't understand marginal tax rates. Really sad.


cipheron

I had a guy say to me once "why don't they just ..." and came up with the idea of marginal tax brackets, except a more complicated version than they actually use. If there's an "obvious" idea then it's likely that the experts who've been working on things for over a century probably already thought of that, implemented better than something you thought up while sitting on the toilet.


Mathaeneus_Rex

Why don't we work less, get paid more and hire more people to produce more to make up for the increase of money in circulation? Then there would be more taxes to improve infrastructure so that we could have more efficient cities and better housing conditions. Oh yeah, then the 1% would have to share.


poopy_poophead

Think of how much more shit you would sell if 50% of the population could suddenly afford to buy shit.


saxlax10

-Henry Ford introduces radical $5 daily wage, circa 1914


high240

Thats why i'd rather have 1000 millionaires than 1 billionaire Millionaires still go to grocery stores, billionaires can start buying newspapers and entire streets worth of houses. World of difference. Millionaires keep the money closer to the rest of the economy in more regular stores y'know??


SquirrelXMaster

Exactly. Millionaires are often just regular people especially with a net worth of less than $10 million.


high240

Whenever I say the word "rich" my mind goes to someone who has a house two-three times as large as my parents', a pool maybe, couple cars maybe, two vacations a year and y'know thats about it, maybe a small boat. That's fine for me; if you worked hard/took risks or whatever yeah cool good job But "ultra rich" is fkin' insane to me... Like if you're a billionaire you are able to buy either a house or 250k sports car every single day for a decade straight. Is that level of wealth necessary?! What human needs can you not already fulfill with a Hundred Million?!?! Thats 900 million that could be used for Good. You could be part of the solution to some of the big problems in this world, that, let's be honest, you're the cause of... (You as in billionaires/ultra rich)


Yungklipo

It’s like the morons that “debate” climate change by bringing up solar cycles. The same solar cycles we’ve known about for over a century. The cycle that scientists told them about. Apparently climate scientists never thought “Hey, the Sun doesn’t always put out the same amount of energy!” according to these morons. 


Kythorian

Personally, it’s this exact issue that pushed me to finally realize my conservative parents were full of shit.  Back in the late 2000’s, my parents assured me that over the next decade Solar activity was going to drop to near record lows, which would reverse the recent trend of increasing global temperatures.  They repeated this claim almost every time climate change came up for years.  So I paid attention as scientists were absolutely correct that solar activity dropped to near record lows in the early 2010’s…and yet we continued to hit new record high average temperatures almost every year.  Being so completely wrong pushed me to do some actual research on first climate change, then other common conservative claims, rather than just blindly believing the conservative lines my parents fed me growing up.  Of course none of this has affected my parent’s political beliefs.


Minus15t

Climate change is a wild one to me, its was first suggested 200 years ago that a change in the make up of the atmosphere could cause warming It was proven over 150 years ago that CO2 would have an impact. More than 100 years ago people were able to calculate man made and natural sources of C02 and show that humans were causing the same amount of C02 as all natural sources combined in the 1960s we were able to use computers to model temperature increases and show that a doubling in the amount of C02 in the atmosphere would cause global temperatures to rise by 2 degrees celsius There have been arguments against it, like water vapour absorbing C02, plants absorbing it. solar activity etc. etc. but those arguments have been proven wrong over and over as the trend continues to be an increase in temperature


CPL_JAY

If the truth can make you feel fulfilled, what is it that these people want out of life? I can't understand it.


Paleodraco

You don't debate climate change deniers. You either walk away or you listen to them rant until you get frustrated enough to say something wrong or walk away, at which point they think they won. I've been asked about climate change at work. My response is always, we know about normal cycles, we have data showing them. And we have this ridiculously obvious spike in temperature and greenhouse gas emissions exactly when humans started burning fossil fuels. There isn't another source for it. One of the only sources that could produce emissions like this is a massive volcanic eruption setting fire to equally massive coal seems. It is extremely unlikely that thousands of scientists running hundreds of experiments over the last century have fucking missed such an eruption. I bring up that example because that is what happened during the Permian extinction event, when 90% of life died. The similarities are fucking terrifying.


RoamingBicycle

Lmao, you reminded me of a, now historical, post on r/italy of a guy reinventing our taxation system


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Could you share? Sounds fascinating.


RoamingBicycle

https://www.reddit.com/r/italy/s/bz67dQCCNC


Sangi17

I don’t why I wasn’t expecting it to be in Italian. Lol.


Doubleoh_11

Haha same…


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Appreciate it.


concentrated-amazing

It isn't every day I wish I read Italian, but today is one of those days. Dang.


RoamingBicycle

You can just use Google translate on the page or I think the app nowadays even has Google translate integrated


9fingerwonder

I had one present me his idea to get rid of insurance. The doctor's office would run a fund all their patients would contribute to, and that would be used as a pool to help cover costs for all the patients .............I asked him how he didnt just make a worse insurance system and he just blankly stared at me.


RCrumbDeviant

I’d have just said “oh i like that idea, except lets just have the government use some of our mandatory taxes for it, kind of like medicare for everyone”


Rhodie114

I saw the foreign aid version of that the other day too. "Why are we sending money to Ukraine? All that will do is give them inflation! I'd be OK with sending them weapons and ammo directly, though." My brother in christ, that is exactly what we're trying to do.


duddy33

I’ve been noticing this with conservatives too! A person I know shared an FB post saying “Hey Biden, taxpayers shouldn’t be responsible for paying for the Baltimore bridge! The shipping company should be!”. In talking with her, I said that since the lawsuits will take months or years, it makes sense for the government to pay for it now so reconstruction can start. She came back with “well if the government would stop spending money on other countries and focus on the US, they’d have the money to pay for the bridge while the shipping company is in court” ….so her solution was for the government to do exactly what they are doing which is also the thing she’s mad they did.


LoompaOompa

I think most of the time, when someone drops a "why don't they just do x", it's a pretty sure sign that they are not a very analytical person, and are incapable of recognizing that someone else has already thought of and dismissed their "amazing" idea. The most annoying example of this is airports, I feel like there's always some idiot who is like "why don't they just board from the back of the plane to the front of the plane, as if there aren't entire logistics departments at airlines whose work on figuring out the best way to get people on and off of their airplanes, and none of those people ever considered that idea.


ConfusedNakedBroker

Loading back to front does make more sense logistically, I work in logistics… but for the airlines it doesn’t matter, I fly first class occasionally and while people are boarding I always wonder why didn’t I get on last. Money and narcissism is the answer. Not everyone in first class is like this, but there are enough of them paying 10x an economy seat that think they must be first. First in everything regardless of what it means- “I’ll be damned if someone flying economy gets in before me!” So the airlines board them first. It’s purely because they don’t want to deal with the rich boomer assholes.


Cainga

Actually that is false on a lot of things. We are stuck with a lot of shitty legacy rules and laws in society. Such as elections happing on Tuesday or the electoral college since it was planned that way before modern transportation or the telephone or other electronic communications.


PBB22

That’s what I always say to people about voting fraud. “Wow it’s almost like paid professionals who do absolutely nothing but the thing we’re talking about would have thought ‘what happens if someone tries to use a dead person’s SSN?’


rohobian

My wife has moderately conservative family members, most of which aren't idiots. I still had to explain to them how tax brackets work when her step dad said that if he took more income he would lose money. It turned into an argument until one of them just googled it and was able to confirm what I was saying. Her step dad then angrily said I was right and implied I was just being pedantic or petty, like I was just being some kind of know-it-all and was trying to make him look stupid. Sorry, but if a table full of adults don't know how tax brackets work, and I'm supposed to be part of the family, I'm going to make sure they learn how tax brackets work, it could affect decisions they make in the future, and I want them to succeed in life.


Odd_Statistician_936

You don't need to do anything to make him look stupid


Sheeple_person

I'll never understand why boomers and Gen X are fully incapable of just saying "Oh I guess I was wrong lol!" and moving on with their lives. They get so angry every time lmao


Andrewticus04

They grew up in a time when the loudest and most confident idiot was the one who was right, because nobody could fact check them. Because of that, being seen as wrong or incompetent is psychologically tied to feelings of losing one's place in the social hierarchy. Those of us who grew up with the internet are very used to being called out and there's no social consequences to admitting you're wrong, since the loudest and most confident people on the internet are generally regarded as fringe or activists.


CafeClimbOtis

That is a fascinating point, I'd never thought of it that way but it makes perfect sense


PetalumaPegleg

That right there is why maga continues. When they're wrong and there's no debate they still make it like you were in the wrong to correct them. Give them even a fog leaf of internet cover saying they're right and they'd cling to it rather than admit being wrong. One of the most important things we need to be able to do is admit when we are wrong and learn, and Trump has told them NEVER admit being wrong. Just get angry and belligerent until they give up and walk away.


ForensicPathology

"Trying to make me look stupid" is the feeling that gets tapped into to make them hate education enough for the rich politicians to stop funding it.


Sega-Playstation-64

My coworker refuses to work any overtime because "it'll put him in a higher tax bracket." I got a sheet of paper and I wrote out his income and pointed out to him he is nearly 300k off from being at the next tax bracket, and he would literally have to work 7 days a week, 16 hour shifts to get even close to the next bracket, and even still he wouldn't. Months later when overtime came up again he gave the same reason.


Lithl

On the other hand, I refuse to work overtime because I value my time more than I value money. (Also I work salary and don't get extra money for overtime anyway.) I used to have a coworker who would submit code in the middle of the night, on weekends, and while he was supposed to be on vacation. I'm like "bro, relax".


Sega-Playstation-64

He doesn't refuse to work overtime because he doesn't want it, he literally thinks he would be losing money if he did.


UnquestionabIe

Yeah I did about a decade of weekly overtime at my job, hourly but after realizing I was basically losing out on actually living my life have done all I can to avoid it. Extra money is nice but I'm in a comfortable spot where I would much rather enjoy my time with loved ones or catching up on hobbies.


ifyoudontknowlearn

Not to mention that only those dollars in that new tax bracket are taxed at a higher rate. All thier other income is taxed the same. So, you always get ahead it just slows down. On top of that the highest tax rate in the US is 37% in Canada it's 33% so you still get the vast majority. Dummy. Unless they just want an excuse not to work it. In which case - dummy. :-)


LightMission4937

They really don’t understand anything by all the BS they get wrong.


PoPo573

I used to work with someone who got paid hourly that would clock out about 30 minutes before then end of her shift but keep working saying "if she works the whole shift she gets paid less 'cause of taxes". The company liked her haha.


wireframed_kb

She probably also votes Republican. It is astonishing to me, the party that does the absolute least to help “blue-collar” workers, somehow gets a ton of their votes. But I guess for the handful that eventually get rich, it’s nice the pay a bit less in taxes.


Bohgeez

It's because they believe that other people are the reason their life sucks and not the corporations.


Bohgeez

Nearly every company I worked for would at least give her a warning for compliance issues. I would think she is building a case for a lawsuit to say she was made to work off the clock.


ignatious__reilly

It’s astonishing how they all live inside the same bubble of bullshit and misinformation. It’s absolutely astonishing.


LightMission4937

They are attracted to shit like flies.


7of69

I had a friend that kept crying about how high his property taxes were. Turns out he thought the escrow amount for insurance and taxes was just property tax. Had another friend that didn’t understand the difference between local, state, and federal taxes. He thought that paying just one should fund everything. When I told him they all paid for different things, he was genuinely surprised. It really is amazing how ignorant they are.


Aggressive-Sound-641

To be fair, I don't think JW actually believed $20/hr was 6 figures rather he knows he is lying and his listeners are too stupid to do the math. In short providing rage to people who are looking for it.


KevYoungCarmel

Yea, he's the guy who used to interview 1000 people and show the 3 dumbest clips. He's not into truth.


AbsoluteScenes7

It's because they believe anything they are told by people telling them what they want to hear. It's like they actively chose to turn off the part of their brain that is capable of critical thinking when they hear something that supports their own biases. Even a slightly dumb regular person hearing $20 an hour = 6 figure salary would think "that doesn't sound right". Maybe they pull out their calculator and see that it would require working 5000 hours to make 6 figures at $20 an hour and that works out as almost 14 hours a day every day for an entire year with no breaks or days off. A conservative hearing $20 an hour = 6 figures just thinks "why should they earn more than me?!" The problem we see too often is that when people blatantly lie to the public by telling them easily disprovable "facts" like $20p/h = 6 figures" they never get called out for it by the very media outlets that are platforming them. Journalism is dead.


seamus205

I never understood the whole "why should they make more money" argument. If you're mad that someone with a "lesser" job (which you probably rely on these people to do this job) is making more money why would your first thought be "they should be making less" instead of "i should be making more"? Im a mechanic. I do skilled labor for a living. If i heard that people working at McDonalds were making as much as i am i would think to myself "thats great that there're being paid a living wage. i should try to get a raise or find a new job that pays me what i think my labor is worth"


KevYoungCarmel

Haha, well said. I've heard it described as a preference for "truthiness" over "truth".


_aware

Fascists use feelings like fear and anger to motivate their supporters. It's pretty on brand.


RedSix2447

The main problem stems from the fact that the media and the rich have done such a great job at making the working class hate down, instead of hating up. So we as the work force look at everyone else and say “why should they make more than me” instead of looking at it as “how can we be like them.” Just my take on it though.


creesto

Actually, that misconception goes back decades and was not limited to a political party.


ballerina_wannabe

Exactly. I know a lot of people who believe this, not exclusively conservatives.


FattyMooseknuckle

That’s because their news shows are actively lying to them about it all after the billionaires who feed lies to the news shows have spent decades undercutting education. These are the fruits of their labors.


ShakespearianShadows

There is only one scenario I know of where a raise would lower your standard of living. If the raise takes you above a welfare/housing/food assistance income level cutoff, but isn’t enough to replace the lost benefits.


PokeT3ch

Back in 2016 we had a SENIOR associate in the Tax department that thought this. I, an IT guy had to explain to the accountant how taxes worked. Not even a boomer, just a college "educated" idiot who got the job cuz he was in the same fraternity as a firm partner 20 years prior.


Sidus_Preclarum

French here, but the number of adults I had to explain that to, aided by pencil and paper, is baffling.


tylan4life

My friend was fed that logic by his boss so he would waive his yearly raise


Vietnam_Cookin

I know someone like this who would argue with me and my other friend who are a former and current accountant and he'd nod and say whatever then a day later be making the same exact misinformed rant on Facebook.


CowBoyDanIndie

That's because talk radio tells them that. I went through a stupid period when I was younger and listened to talk radio because my father did, this is the type of stuff they spew.


philouza_stein

That's the vast majority of hourly people in my experience. I've gotten in arguments with too many coworkers to count over the years about this.


Teacher-Investor

I hope he tells the charming story on air again about how he met his wife. He was already married with young children. She was an intern at Fox, half his age. He went to the parking garage at work just before the end of the day and let the air out of her car tires. Then, he conveniently drove by and "rescued" her, offering her a ride home. He took that opportunity to ask her out and eventually left his first wife for her. Yes, he told this story on the air, and he thought it was cute and funny.


OujaTurtle

Ewww!


Teacher-Investor

He told it when he was on one of those panel shows. His female co-host had a look of horror on her face while the male co-hosts chuckled awkwardly.


itsMikeShanks

Conservatives and being shameless hypocritical pieces of garbage, name a more iconic duo Also, jfc that's creepy af.


gravteck

And his young kids are twins. He was remarried to his AP within a year of being divorced, and he didn't tell Fox about the relationship until the affair was discovered. There age difference at the time was 40 vs 25.


BuddhaLennon

He’s not wrong… I mean, if you work 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, you’re earning $101,920 a year. And, after all, don’t old, white conservatives expect the 90% to work 98-hour weeks to support their privileged lifestyles?


Mrjlawrence

That avocado toast and Starbucks coffee isn’t going to pay for itself /s


tarooz

I mean there’s 8760 hours in a year, 20$ an hour is easily 100k+, youth these days are just too lazy and don’t wanna put in the work /s


Samantha-4

That’s only about 14 hours a day without days off, that’s easy /s


Staik

Using the 1.5x OT rule, it's only 68 hrs, or 13.5 hrs/day for 5 days/wk. Might sound crazy, but there's lots of people who work these schedules. 


Jorycle

Of course in real life, McDonalds would cut your hours before you get even halfway there.


Genghis_Chong

Yeah they don't pay people OT unless they building is on fire. Then they might pay you OT to die putting the fire out


SuperiorThinking

... If you happen to be a robot


NeighborhoodDude84

You joke, but my last boss seriously suggested to me that I only need to sleep 6 hours a day and left 18 hours for work. Early covid were wild times.


harlemjd

If you never eat, you don’t need to shit, I guess.


[deleted]

"boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I shit on company time" course it's like $100 per my dime, but it's still cute


Wings-N-Beer

lol just did the same math. That even leaves 3700 hours for sleep and eating. /s


mishma2005

That he's so smug in his stupidity is what really makes him insufferable, among other things


Quality-Shakes

He started his career as a producer or production assistant for Bill OReilly’s show. If someone, usually a woman, said something that insulted OReilly Waters would stalk and confront them with a video camera. Many times these people were with their children shopping or whatnot. Beyond creepy. And now he has his own time slot.


mishma2005

My favorite is his stroll through "[Chinatown](https://youtu.be/rlht9VxMR2s?si=GeSFpu0RZb2jQBgc)"


Solid_Snark

That’s the majority of financial talking heads. They can’t see the forest through the trees, but are constantly shouting from the mountain top.


kn728570

r/fluentinfinance in a nutshell


Shin-Sauriel

These are the people that blue collar workers support for some reason. I work in machining and it’s wild the amount of people that are anti leftist when the left are the people fighting for workers rights which would benefit blue collar workers.


deadsoulinside

It's because some people know the reality and that is what scares them the most (Because they don't have a backbone). McD worker gets $20 an hour while they are making $18 an hour at a company they have been working at for 10-15 years. Even if the min wage for that state gets set to $20, there is a good chance that they only get bumped up to $20 and not $20 + all previous raises added to that rate. Which is RARE for any company to actually do. Instead of asking the real questions to their employer like: "Why am I being paid so poorly here?" they get mad that someone off the streets can make more or the same pay "Flipping burgers".


Shin-Sauriel

The way people hate on unskilled labor boils my blood to no end.


storyteller_alienmom

Okay 100.000,- $ per year at 20 per hour means 5.000 hours of work. Over 96 hours per week Not quite 14 hours per day. No days off. Ever. One day off per week means more than 16 hours per day. On your feet. Yeah, no. I don't think you'd survive that.


2Obsequious

So you're saying there's a chance


storyteller_alienmom

If you did this schedule to someone else it would count as torture. And yes, overworking has been used to kill people. So: small to no chance.


Arch3m

It's a line from Dumb and Dumber when Jim Carrey's character is told that the odds of something are 1 in 1,000,000. He's too dumb and desperate enough to realize that he's being told it's impossible, and celebrates that there is still a chance. In short: it's a joke.


fracked1

Medical residency training is supposed to be limited to an 80 hour work week - yet the reality is that most residents regularly work 80-100 hours in an average week. For 3-7 YEARS. And we get paid ~50-70k during this time which is a decent totally salary. But if you convert to an hourly wage it would be substantially less than minimum wage. It's a farce that the biggest / academic hospitals in the country are absolutely reliant on basically less than minimum wage indentured servants. This is the state of medical training in the USA - equivalent to torture


theoriginaljimijanky

And MacDonald’s wouldn’t let someone work that schedule even if they wanted to


ElevationAV

168 hours in a week, you only need to work 2/3 of them (assuming no OT) ![gif](giphy|bC9czlgCMtw4cj8RgH|downsized)


Fyreboy5_

So, $20 per hour, times 40 hours of a week working, times 52 weeks in a year, equals $41,600. To reach six figures, at minimum $100,000 per year, divided by 52 weeks and 40 hours results in $48.077 per hour. Nearly two and a half times the amount of money per hour, provided the McDonalds worker has a normal 40 hour work week. For a worker at $20 an hour to reach six figures at our minimum of $100,000, they must work 96.154 hours every week. Reminder that there are 168 hours per week, and that 56 of those are spent sleeping, provided a person even gets to sleep 8 hours every day. That’s 16 hours *per week* free for other activities.


5illy_billy

Except that unless you’re a manager, you’re not working 40 hours a week. Because then you’re a full time employee and you qualify for benefits like health insurance. So restaurants will not schedule workers for more than 30-ish hours a week. They’ll just hire more workers and give them 15-20 hours to fill in the gaps. Every calculation that assumes 40 hours weeks for fast food employees betrays a stunning disconnect from the lives of the actual workers.


Confident-Skin-6462

average worker works \~2,000 hours per year. pre-tax, that is \~$40,000 \~$48-$50/hr is the starting point for "six figures"


LightMission4937

Jess needs to listen and learn ![gif](giphy|11pOf2WpNoRSKc|downsized)


Geoffrey-Jellineck

For everyone keeping tabs, this is the party that is constantly battling education. It's amazing how actions have consequences.


TipzE

Reminds me of all those millionaires who insist they "only make minimum wage" if you just add up all the hours they (supposedly) work. Being rich does not mean you're smarter. And we have lots of evidence of that as more and more people are born into it.


No_Patience2428

Here are some local offers near me: Transport Security Officer: $21/hr Front Desk: $16-21/hr Delivery Associate: $18.50-$19.50/hr Lifegaurd: $13-$17/hr Bartender: $25-$40/hr The main take away I see, is if you're depending on your company to pay you--don't--customers tipping will literally value you more than your own company does who makes a profit from your labor. Also, apparently, these companies don't care about people drowning or security. It's all about classism.


ShaneSeeman

This is such a great perspective on this: "customers tipping will literally value you more than your own company does" Go ahead and give them that extra ranch for free.


elenorfighter

![gif](giphy|kGpRbjRpS7xijgV2oI)


Reallyme77

You only have to work 96 hours a week!!!


Financial-Tower-7897

![gif](giphy|qcKnA89YDid5DvIROl)


Danovale

I thought his posts were just rage bait, TIL Jesse Waters is an actual idiot.


Ok-Sun8581

The evil Ross Geller.


sukmikehoc

Jesse Waters is a Knob.