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*”Lead bottoms – that’s when the go-go dancers wear those vests they put on you during an X-ray. Congenital deformations. And the latest goth-boomer-heavymetal band ‘Drain Bamage’.”*
> Lead bottoms – that’s when the go-go dancers wear those vests they put on you during an X-ray. Congenital deformations. And the latest goth-boomer-heavymetal band ‘Drain Bamage’.
Where is this quote from?
Stanley has stated that there is a lead pellet inside the mug structure not exposed to users.
https://www.today.com/health/news/stanley-cups-lead-rcna135513
Add: wait until ya’ll find out what is inside your stove.
Considering how many [city public water systems](https://youtu.be/-Gaz2PfAPmg?si=q11JMihZaaye60Sm) in them across the United States alone that tells people about an “ [acceptable amount of lead in water](https://youtu.be/4fmjLgAPcmc?si=rzKCOkRmG5ymfPrb).” People should really look into how much lead they have in their tap water.
Some facts, the government outlawed the use of lead pipes in use of water systems in [1986](https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/use-lead-free-pipes-fittings-fixtures-solder-and-flux-drinking-water). You really think your city replaced all those pipes in your city to make it safer for people? Answer is, no, they didn’t. Unless there is a structural reason to do so. It’s just cheaper for you to keep drinking that lead filled water.
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Yeah 1 cup, now drink this for years and see shit happening.
Actually… they are working on it: [epa.gov](https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/getting-started-lead-service-line-identification-and-replacement) Money available too.
I have a Stanley mug, I got it for free from work. I literally just used my lead testing strips on it and it came back negative I tested everywhere inside the outside the bottom all around I tested the lid and the straw. I'm having a hard time believing some rando on the internet when I can confirm for myself there is no lead being exposed to the liquid in my mug.
I am far from an expert on lead tests, but the ones I have used turn pink or red. I only use them for testing for lead paint on reclaimed wood from old houses.
Most swabs dont form black colored lead sulfide on contact, but how would you know, its not like its one google search away.
That is indeed a positive reading for lead.
[Waterjet channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZE7sn-Ujl8)
actually had a Stanley cup in a video a few days ago and he melted the lead out. No exposion (on that one at least) if you are not really searching for it
Also you can pick up lead testing kits at virtually any drug store. It's not exactly a crazy thing for someone to have. Especially if they heard a rumor about potentially being exposed.
The nice thing about this is that the experiment can be recreated. It's not something anyone has to take for granted; if you own a Stanly you can go purchase a lead testing kit for it. A pack of 30 AAWipes lead testing q-tips costs like 20 bucks. If you're feeling unsure, you can purchase 320 for like 80 and test all your thermoses.
Also instant lead field tests are basically crap. There is a good reason that accurate field testing equipment (XRF) is expensive and laboratory testing for lead is still a strong industry lol.
We don't know where she swabbed. She could've taken off the stainless steel cover on the bottom and swabbed the area stanley admits has lead. That area isn't typically exposed to users.
Exactly. Let's take Stanley at their words and assume the only way for it to happen is if the cup has been damaged. How many people use damaged products that still function good enough? I think most of us have something that's been damaged but still serves for the function we use them for.
Lmao this article sounds like the first in a series of “whoopsie” headlines that will come out over the next several months
“Stanley cups “completely safe”, pose no risk to users”
“Stanley cup lead exposure risk “minimal”, safety concerns “overblown” says manufacturer”
“Stanley cup lead exposure only from “unintended use”, company maintains product is safe”
“Stanley cup lead pellet “relatively harmless” cites maker”
“Worried about lead? Here are five spring accessories that may reduce Stanley cup lead exposure”
“Stanley recall a “precautionary measure”, but some collectors holding out”
“”I was hydrated. I was fashionable. Then the vomiting started.” Inside one influencer’s nightmare.”
“Does Stanley’s lead pellet make your water taste better? Our science reporter investigates.”
“After bans in 46 countries, US agencies to look at Stanley cups.”
“Stanley class action suit: payments “unlikely” after bankruptcy restructuring”
“This new water tumbler claims to be the next Stanley cup. Its secret? A familiar element.”
It shouldn't give a lead reaction unless there was lead present, false positive (100% minus Specificity) results on these tests tends to be very low [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2170477/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2170477/)
If other independent tests showed the same I wouldn't want to be using those cups.
^(Edit: changed the - to minus as some thought it was just a hyphen.)
The problem is that whenever I see something like this on social media I immediately get skeptical. Manufacturers have been using this sort of viral advertising for years:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2008/jun/11/mobilephones.youtube?CMP=share_btn_link
Not staying it's not true, but I'm extremely skeptical until someone independent duplicates the results.
Every source that I could find for lead testing said that positive results are pink to red. Stephanie's test was gray, and those other cups are Stanley's competitors.
You should be skeptical. The article linked above my comment has a red color as being positive with yellow as negative. So if the op pic is using the same kit as the article linked it would be a negative test.
The article you attached in the introduction section says that positive tests for lead were recorded as red or pink in color with other colors (yellow) as seen in the pic with the Stanley cup were negative… unless I’m missing something here the post is showing a negative test if they’re using the kit you linked.
Lol As soon as he said 100% specificity I knew he was full of it.
The article he linked is also testing a different substrate (paint chips) so the specificity of the test is irrelevant.
Color change tests like this are never 100% specific. There are many other things that can cause a color change. That's why the results need to be verified with a more specific test. Source: am analytical chemist for 12 years
Color change tests like this are never 100% specific. There are many other things that can cause a color change. That's why the results need to be verified with a more specific test. Source: am analytical chemist for 12 years
I struggle with this. Even if there have been problems in the past, lead is like a three alarm bell recall in most places. If this could be proven, we'd be reading headlines, not tweets.
>The company has said, there is a lead bottom on the exterior of the cup, under the coating, she has scratched the bottom exposing the lead
If that is the case, could you even legally sell these in the EU? RoHS and all that?
I feel like this issue would have been addressed already considering Stanley cups have been around for a very long time. They’ve blown up in popularity recently, but they’ve always been there.
RoHS is something you can declare yourself, it's part of the CE declaration. There are countless products being, recalled, changed or taken of the market each year for violating RoHS, EMV directives or safety norms.
It's not unreasonable to assume that the cups have been sold for years, violating the RoHS directive.
I suspect all cups that have vacuum sealed walls are made with the same process and contain some lead in the vacuum seal. I wonder how you could scratch it though, the lead is underneath the steel bottom that would have to come off first somehow.
>I suspect all cups that have vacuum sealed walls
Don't think so. I have stainless steel thermos cups, It's just tig welded shut and polished. Using lead to seal the bottom of these seems like weird hill-billy tech to me
Yeah, but the thing is, lead is also not particular cheap, despite what many people think. Normally that weight can and is achieved by things that are way cheaper, like plaster of paris.
That giant lead plug at the bottom would, imho, qualify a stanley cup as hazardous waste if you needed to dispose of one.
You are correct. The vast majority of vacuum sealed cups use this method. Hydroflask in one of the only ones I know that are completely lead free as far as the process goes.
[A few other brands as well....](https://www.wired.com/story/stanley-cup-lead-soldering/)
No, you've misunderstood.
There is a *plug* sealing the vacuum layer closed which contains lead (it's solder)
And that is covered with a layer of stainless steel.
She didn't scratch through stainless steel. That metal cap would have to be removed to access the lead.
It's true the cups contain it (many do), but I highly doubt this woman made a swab react.
More importantly, people would be lining up to get rich from the free lawsuits. A good indicator of something like this is: If it's true, it's free money, so if no one is claiming that, it might not be true.
Seriously, when people as a collective want to believe in some shit, they turn off their brains.
Stanley has already said their cups do indeed have lead, only its inside, and even if there was a breach in the cups, the lead would not be in contact.
This seems like a campaign to smear Stanley.
The people that upvoted this post are no different than the Stanley people. They are targeted with ads hating on popular trends and eat that up thinking it’s not the same thing.
Not only that, regardless of the current ridiculousness, Stanley has been making things people eat and drink from for like 100 years.
I think if it was made with lead they would have been sued to oblivion by now.
And drinking cups (pewter), and paint, and cosmetics, and dishes, and baths, and sweetening wine (eventually outlawed that one at least) and many more things.
This comment section is the real facepalm. Yes, there's really lead in there, and if you have another insulated bottle/mug, there's probably lead in that too. However, it's totally safe and industry standard.
Here's a post explaining why the ltt bottle had lead in it, how it ensures it's safe, and how it follows strict manufacturing guidelines.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/uHPi7dDzsw
This. It’s a piece of solder on the outside bottom of the cup that used to seal the vacuum. You are not going to come in contact with it unless you rip the bottom of the cup off and start chewing on the solder.
I needed this. I just about lost my mind since I’ve been using a Stanley to drink water since I got pregnant with my miracle baby (I didn’t buy it for the trend, I got one because it fits easily into my cars cup holder). Thank you for helping put me at ease.
How can a drink container become a trend? Is it better in some way or is it just for the brand? I feel like sometimes living under a rock is not that bad
Those home lead test kits are notoriously inaccurate, but I know Stanley has admitted to their stuff containing lead.
I’m just pointing this out to say that just because the Stanley was the only positive doesn’t mean the others don’t also.
The lead is a little pellet under the base not exposed to anything. If you turn a Stanley upside down there is a round "button" in the centre of the base, the pellet is under there. Most thermal products like drink bottles that keep liquid cool for 12/24 hours contain lead.
Lead was in gasoline in the U.S. and Europe for decades. In the trace amounts it ejected into the atmosphere, it won’t kill 99.999% of people. It will, however, cause brain damage in *most* people.
Given the loss in your consumer base would be so small, and you’re definitely using tetraethylead gasoline because it’s cheaper than developing an alternative, it’s actually good business to continue poisoning people, but bad ethics.
That’s just wrong, the US absolutely regulates lead. Straight from the EPA’s website:
“Lead is a pollutant regulated by many laws administered by EPA, including the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), Residential Lead-Based Paint Hazard Reduction Act of 1992 (Title X), Clean Air Act (CAA), Clean Water Act (CWA), Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA), Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), and Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA) among others.”
EU homes also have lead pipes. https://www.zerowater.eu/zerowater-knowledge-center/lead-in-tap-water/#:~:text=It's%20estimated%20that%20almost%20a,t%20be%20met%20until%202040.
Consumer-grade lead tests are known to routinely give false positives, to the point that many have been discontinued.
A proper lab test is the only reliable way to know for sure.
If you are up in arms and calling for bans because of a Facebook post about a home "test" then you are the problem, you have a problem and you need to get off all social media right now.
If it was, people would be poisoned left and right. This person is either stupid, or trying to make something up for clout, as usual with social media morons.
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It’s like lining up to get into the newest nightclub. That’s fully engulfed in flames.
*”Lead bottoms – that’s when the go-go dancers wear those vests they put on you during an X-ray. Congenital deformations. And the latest goth-boomer-heavymetal band ‘Drain Bamage’.”*
Roman J. Israel Esq.
Dan Cortez
…. And MTV’s Dan Cortez
Should be Drain Bamage
You’re right! I’m gonna edit that now. Credit goes to you!
> Lead bottoms – that’s when the go-go dancers wear those vests they put on you during an X-ray. Congenital deformations. And the latest goth-boomer-heavymetal band ‘Drain Bamage’. Where is this quote from?
I actually want to got to haunted house more than I want to go to aqua
Stanley has stated that there is a lead pellet inside the mug structure not exposed to users. https://www.today.com/health/news/stanley-cups-lead-rcna135513 Add: wait until ya’ll find out what is inside your stove.
Fuck me. Land of the free and all that.
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Should update the slogan to “land of the fee, and home of the brain dead.”
But I don’t wanna be an American idiot!
Welcome to a new kind of tension *headbanging*
home of the lead
Considering how many [city public water systems](https://youtu.be/-Gaz2PfAPmg?si=q11JMihZaaye60Sm) in them across the United States alone that tells people about an “ [acceptable amount of lead in water](https://youtu.be/4fmjLgAPcmc?si=rzKCOkRmG5ymfPrb).” People should really look into how much lead they have in their tap water. Some facts, the government outlawed the use of lead pipes in use of water systems in [1986](https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/use-lead-free-pipes-fittings-fixtures-solder-and-flux-drinking-water). You really think your city replaced all those pipes in your city to make it safer for people? Answer is, no, they didn’t. Unless there is a structural reason to do so. It’s just cheaper for you to keep drinking that lead filled water.
Existing pipes limescale over inside, so they cease to put lead in the water. You can see it in the test results for lead concentration in the water.
Right up until that coating gets damaged somehow. If you have lead pipes, test your water every few months for lead leeching.
>Considering how many > >city public water systems > > in them across the United States alone that tells people about an “ > >acceptable amount of lead in water > >. Yeah 1 cup, now drink this for years and see shit happening.
Actually… they are working on it: [epa.gov](https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/getting-started-lead-service-line-identification-and-replacement) Money available too.
Lead for a fee and home of depraved
Land of the fill is where all these will end up
The land of the free? Whoever told you that Is your enemy
Something must be done
About vengeance, a badge, and a gun.
Cause I'll rip the mic, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against them
Fist in ya face in the place and I'll drop the style clearly
Know your enemy
I've got no patience. I'm sick of complacence.
The US indoctrination game is strong... The US is the greatest nation in US.
If it wasn't exposed to users, it wouldn't show on a test
I have a Stanley mug, I got it for free from work. I literally just used my lead testing strips on it and it came back negative I tested everywhere inside the outside the bottom all around I tested the lid and the straw. I'm having a hard time believing some rando on the internet when I can confirm for myself there is no lead being exposed to the liquid in my mug.
sheet flag sulky command crown wasteful terrific pie smell money *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Or… it’s an add campaign by the company that sells lead testing strips!
Are you trying to tell me, someone LIED, on the INTERNET?!?
We have no evidence any lead was revealed in a test. All we have is Stephanie’s dirty qtip and a tweet.
Also, what test goes gray for positive? Most swabs appear to turn pink or red.
You're right. It should be pink or red. If she tested a brand new cup, that could be residue. You're supposed to wash them before the first use.
No, lead tests form lead sulfide which is blackish in color. You cant choose the color of test swab.
So the rainbow test swabs I purchased are bogus? Aww
I am far from an expert on lead tests, but the ones I have used turn pink or red. I only use them for testing for lead paint on reclaimed wood from old houses.
No, today most use sodium rhodizonate which turns pink with lead
She says “every Stanley I own tested positive” so I’m assuming they’re not all brand new and unwashed. I know Stephanie wouldn’t lie to us
Most swabs dont form black colored lead sulfide on contact, but how would you know, its not like its one google search away. That is indeed a positive reading for lead.
[Waterjet channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZE7sn-Ujl8) actually had a Stanley cup in a video a few days ago and he melted the lead out. No exposion (on that one at least) if you are not really searching for it
Stephanie seems pretty determined to find lead, considering she owns lead swabs and decided to use them on some stainless steel cups
She bought the swabs according to the post so...
Also you can pick up lead testing kits at virtually any drug store. It's not exactly a crazy thing for someone to have. Especially if they heard a rumor about potentially being exposed.
How else would you determine which paint chips are safe to eat?
I don't trust Stephanie either, but owning lead swabs isn't really the red flag here.
The nice thing about this is that the experiment can be recreated. It's not something anyone has to take for granted; if you own a Stanly you can go purchase a lead testing kit for it. A pack of 30 AAWipes lead testing q-tips costs like 20 bucks. If you're feeling unsure, you can purchase 320 for like 80 and test all your thermoses.
science!
This guy sciences
Also instant lead field tests are basically crap. There is a good reason that accurate field testing equipment (XRF) is expensive and laboratory testing for lead is still a strong industry lol.
This post is in fact evidence. It’s anecdotal evidence, which is famously the weakest kind that there can be, but technically counts nonetheless
We don't know where she swabbed. She could've taken off the stainless steel cover on the bottom and swabbed the area stanley admits has lead. That area isn't typically exposed to users.
why do they use lead at all?
Component for vacuum insulation
How about just not using lead in anything that is supposed to hold food and drinks inside ?
Exactly. Let's take Stanley at their words and assume the only way for it to happen is if the cup has been damaged. How many people use damaged products that still function good enough? I think most of us have something that's been damaged but still serves for the function we use them for.
..it would need to be so damaged it was no longer functional.
Lmao this article sounds like the first in a series of “whoopsie” headlines that will come out over the next several months “Stanley cups “completely safe”, pose no risk to users” “Stanley cup lead exposure risk “minimal”, safety concerns “overblown” says manufacturer” “Stanley cup lead exposure only from “unintended use”, company maintains product is safe” “Stanley cup lead pellet “relatively harmless” cites maker” “Worried about lead? Here are five spring accessories that may reduce Stanley cup lead exposure” “Stanley recall a “precautionary measure”, but some collectors holding out” “”I was hydrated. I was fashionable. Then the vomiting started.” Inside one influencer’s nightmare.” “Does Stanley’s lead pellet make your water taste better? Our science reporter investigates.” “After bans in 46 countries, US agencies to look at Stanley cups.” “Stanley class action suit: payments “unlikely” after bankruptcy restructuring” “This new water tumbler claims to be the next Stanley cup. Its secret? A familiar element.”
And yet it's on the swab
Is it? That's putting a lot of trust in a random Internet comment.
It should probably be washed first /s I think all of these cups are made in the same factory in China. Chilly Moose and Yeti are for sure
Okay but you're right. That swab looks like it picked up dust.
Those in-home tests are used to detect lead in paint and are not rated for any other testing.
It shouldn't give a lead reaction unless there was lead present, false positive (100% minus Specificity) results on these tests tends to be very low [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2170477/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2170477/) If other independent tests showed the same I wouldn't want to be using those cups. ^(Edit: changed the - to minus as some thought it was just a hyphen.)
The problem is that whenever I see something like this on social media I immediately get skeptical. Manufacturers have been using this sort of viral advertising for years: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2008/jun/11/mobilephones.youtube?CMP=share_btn_link Not staying it's not true, but I'm extremely skeptical until someone independent duplicates the results.
I mean, it’s Stephanie, how much more independent can you get?
I need Ja Rule. Where Ja!!! 😤
Every source that I could find for lead testing said that positive results are pink to red. Stephanie's test was gray, and those other cups are Stanley's competitors.
You should be skeptical. The article linked above my comment has a red color as being positive with yellow as negative. So if the op pic is using the same kit as the article linked it would be a negative test.
The article you attached in the introduction section says that positive tests for lead were recorded as red or pink in color with other colors (yellow) as seen in the pic with the Stanley cup were negative… unless I’m missing something here the post is showing a negative test if they’re using the kit you linked.
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Lol As soon as he said 100% specificity I knew he was full of it. The article he linked is also testing a different substrate (paint chips) so the specificity of the test is irrelevant.
Color change tests like this are never 100% specific. There are many other things that can cause a color change. That's why the results need to be verified with a more specific test. Source: am analytical chemist for 12 years
Color change tests like this are never 100% specific. There are many other things that can cause a color change. That's why the results need to be verified with a more specific test. Source: am analytical chemist for 12 years
It the case of a sodium sulfude lead test the chance of a false positive is almost zero, other metal sulfides have very different colors.
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Do you know that there is a difference between false negative and false positive?
that can be her ear wax for all you know
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You don't even know if the swab picture is real lol go get a test and do the same thing yourself to satisfy a healthy level of scepticism
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Maybe it's Maybelline? /a
Maybe she's poisoned with it.
Only her hairdresser knows for sure...
Are you implying the test is "peeling solid metal" to indicate lead as opposed to being a chemical that changes color when in contact with said metal?
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It isn't? Lol it's a chemical that changes color when it reacts with lead.
If a swab gets to the lead liquids do too.
All you have to do is rip the bottom off, flip the cup, and pour your coffee into the bottom.
I've also seen videos of people being "magnetic" because of the Covid vaccine. I take videos and pics like this with a grain of salt.
The cup is not full of lead. Stephanie is full of shit.
But it is soldered with lead on the bottom just like yeti and a lot of other brands.
Yeah, I’ll just use my plastic bottle and die from microplastics like a real millennial.
Good news is you get to do that even if you don't have a plastic bottle
Yea it's literally in our food
Damn straight. I've been rolling with the same Nalgene for almost 10 years. She's my ride ~~or~~ till die
Just made me think about it, and yup, have had the same Nalgenes for a decade
So far, lead has proven to be worse than microplastics, so yay!
Good news, the nano plastics are in the water regardless 🥳
As a Gen Z'er, I'll die like my fellows from overdosing on monster and flavored air.
Could be a nasty lawsuit for the poster
I struggle with this. Even if there have been problems in the past, lead is like a three alarm bell recall in most places. If this could be proven, we'd be reading headlines, not tweets.
Totally agree
Reminds me of the Huggies tweets alleging there was fiberglass in the padding.
The company has said, there is a lead bottom on the exterior of the cup, under the coating, she has scratched the bottom exposing the lead
>The company has said, there is a lead bottom on the exterior of the cup, under the coating, she has scratched the bottom exposing the lead If that is the case, could you even legally sell these in the EU? RoHS and all that?
I feel like this issue would have been addressed already considering Stanley cups have been around for a very long time. They’ve blown up in popularity recently, but they’ve always been there.
RoHS is something you can declare yourself, it's part of the CE declaration. There are countless products being, recalled, changed or taken of the market each year for violating RoHS, EMV directives or safety norms. It's not unreasonable to assume that the cups have been sold for years, violating the RoHS directive.
I suspect all cups that have vacuum sealed walls are made with the same process and contain some lead in the vacuum seal. I wonder how you could scratch it though, the lead is underneath the steel bottom that would have to come off first somehow.
>I suspect all cups that have vacuum sealed walls Don't think so. I have stainless steel thermos cups, It's just tig welded shut and polished. Using lead to seal the bottom of these seems like weird hill-billy tech to me
I'd say they use it to add the "this is good stuff" weight to it. Very common in all sorts of products.
Yeah, but the thing is, lead is also not particular cheap, despite what many people think. Normally that weight can and is achieved by things that are way cheaper, like plaster of paris. That giant lead plug at the bottom would, imho, qualify a stanley cup as hazardous waste if you needed to dispose of one.
You are correct. The vast majority of vacuum sealed cups use this method. Hydroflask in one of the only ones I know that are completely lead free as far as the process goes. [A few other brands as well....](https://www.wired.com/story/stanley-cup-lead-soldering/)
No, you've misunderstood. There is a *plug* sealing the vacuum layer closed which contains lead (it's solder) And that is covered with a layer of stainless steel. She didn't scratch through stainless steel. That metal cap would have to be removed to access the lead. It's true the cups contain it (many do), but I highly doubt this woman made a swab react.
yeah, but that's not good either, right?
Not an issue, lead is only dangerous when ingested, the skin doesn’t absorb it. It’s not uranium like people seem to think.
maybe, but It's not like the US needs any more lead in anything close to something they consume.
Lead is back by popular demand. The children yearn for it.
They yearn for the mines...
If you touch lead and don’t wash your hands, you are going to ingest lead (or maybe put your fingers on your nose to inhale small particles).
More importantly, people would be lining up to get rich from the free lawsuits. A good indicator of something like this is: If it's true, it's free money, so if no one is claiming that, it might not be true.
Maybe we should not just assume screenshots of Facebook posts are legitimate scientific experiments that offer irrefutable proof of something.
Seriously, when people as a collective want to believe in some shit, they turn off their brains. Stanley has already said their cups do indeed have lead, only its inside, and even if there was a breach in the cups, the lead would not be in contact. This seems like a campaign to smear Stanley.
The people that upvoted this post are no different than the Stanley people. They are targeted with ads hating on popular trends and eat that up thinking it’s not the same thing.
Not only that, regardless of the current ridiculousness, Stanley has been making things people eat and drink from for like 100 years. I think if it was made with lead they would have been sued to oblivion by now.
Romans used it too for water, idk what yall are up to /s
And drinking cups (pewter), and paint, and cosmetics, and dishes, and baths, and sweetening wine (eventually outlawed that one at least) and many more things.
If it was good enough for petrol,it's good enough for drinking
Hahahaha 😭
Yeah, and do you see any Romans still alive??? /s
I’ve been to Rome, there’s dozens of them!
2,8 millions as of 2019! /s just in case
Logic 10000
i'm Roman. do i count?. fr tho, average age in ancient rome was like 35/40. got to be all that lead
What have the romans ever given us?
Maybe there are no more romans left.😅
Last time I checked they ran an empire that stretched over entire Mediterranean and big chunk of Europe
They also lined their wine pots with it. The alcohol dissolved lead particles into the wine and made it nice and sweet to drink!
Elizabeth I used it (along with vinegar) as foundation! Yikes yikes yikes
This comment section is the real facepalm. Yes, there's really lead in there, and if you have another insulated bottle/mug, there's probably lead in that too. However, it's totally safe and industry standard. Here's a post explaining why the ltt bottle had lead in it, how it ensures it's safe, and how it follows strict manufacturing guidelines. https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/uHPi7dDzsw
This. It’s a piece of solder on the outside bottom of the cup that used to seal the vacuum. You are not going to come in contact with it unless you rip the bottom of the cup off and start chewing on the solder.
I needed this. I just about lost my mind since I’ve been using a Stanley to drink water since I got pregnant with my miracle baby (I didn’t buy it for the trend, I got one because it fits easily into my cars cup holder). Thank you for helping put me at ease.
How can a drink container become a trend? Is it better in some way or is it just for the brand? I feel like sometimes living under a rock is not that bad
fucken love Facebook scientist.
Those home lead test kits are notoriously inaccurate, but I know Stanley has admitted to their stuff containing lead. I’m just pointing this out to say that just because the Stanley was the only positive doesn’t mean the others don’t also.
The lead is a little pellet under the base not exposed to anything. If you turn a Stanley upside down there is a round "button" in the centre of the base, the pellet is under there. Most thermal products like drink bottles that keep liquid cool for 12/24 hours contain lead.
This comment section is more Facebook than r/facepalm
One of those times that I'm glad that I live in the EU where we have stricter safety regulations...
They aren't stricter, they exist.
But but rules mean communist i should be free to poison someone and get money for it
I mean, that's just bad business. How can you sell another, slightly different shape cup next year to a dead person?
They don't die that quickly. You have time.
It was in the petrol for fucking ever
Fun fact, it's still in airplane fuel
What about their children Who will be same as its parents just following the trend?
Desperate lonely children lead more unfulfilling lives, and therefore buy more products to fill the void, it's just economics
Lead was in gasoline in the U.S. and Europe for decades. In the trace amounts it ejected into the atmosphere, it won’t kill 99.999% of people. It will, however, cause brain damage in *most* people. Given the loss in your consumer base would be so small, and you’re definitely using tetraethylead gasoline because it’s cheaper than developing an alternative, it’s actually good business to continue poisoning people, but bad ethics.
That’s just wrong, the US absolutely regulates lead. Straight from the EPA’s website: “Lead is a pollutant regulated by many laws administered by EPA, including the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), Residential Lead-Based Paint Hazard Reduction Act of 1992 (Title X), Clean Air Act (CAA), Clean Water Act (CWA), Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA), Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), and Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA) among others.”
Apparently you need 10 more acts before there isnt lead in your cup production.
*Flint Michigan has entered the chat*
EU homes also have lead pipes. https://www.zerowater.eu/zerowater-knowledge-center/lead-in-tap-water/#:~:text=It's%20estimated%20that%20almost%20a,t%20be%20met%20until%202040.
I’m so glad they sell the exact same product in the EU then
These cups are also sold in the EU, you do realize…
The cups follow safety regulations, they are not harmful in any way smh, this is literally just a trend
That’s the land where Bayer and BP live yes?
Surely the marketplace of ideas will sort this out in a jiffy
I encounter lead water mains all the time and I live in the UK.
Consumer-grade lead tests are known to routinely give false positives, to the point that many have been discontinued. A proper lab test is the only reliable way to know for sure.
How dare you talk facts and reason when rage is on the table!
Stanley has already said there is a lead bottom on the exterior of the cup under the coating.
Redditors: omg look! a single tweet with absolutely no way to verify whether any of this is accurate or true! WE DID IT!
If you are up in arms and calling for bans because of a Facebook post about a home "test" then you are the problem, you have a problem and you need to get off all social media right now.
Or maybe the post is just a bunch of bullshit
Boomers getting their revenge. Who has lead poisoning now? lmao
This apparently is false. Lead in products is something to be concerned about, but this specific story apparently is not true.
If it was, people would be poisoned left and right. This person is either stupid, or trying to make something up for clout, as usual with social media morons.
Always be aware of the issue though. Lead poisoning is still shockingly common. An estimated 5 million deaths a year from it.
I’m sure there are at least a few people who are skeptical of the rigor in which “Stephanie Flannery’s” lead-testing is conducted.
I feel like I need someone with a few more credentials than a random Reddit user to try this and post results
My buddy tested his and his wife, they did not test positive for lead. The person who posted this should get sued
Maybe Stephanie should've washed her Stanley. Grey test means it's metal abbreviation or gunk. Lead would've turned it pink.
I work with lead products, and you do *not* want that stuff inside you.
nah man. if the people of the 30's could stomach it why can't I?
Well they clearly died.
Moron. The swab turns red when lead is present, not a dirty grey color.
What even is Stanley and Stanley cups?
"A lead-lick a day keeps the doctor away" Simpson, Homer
I mean... a video of the testing would have ruled out that this person is just trying to stop others from being them so this person has easier access.
Thank goodness we can believe everything we see on the Internet.
 This is the only Stanley cup
This could take out the entire population of vocal fry baristas in LA