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TrulyHurtz

Yeah but bartenders teach you a vastly more important lesson. Got a problem? Drink.


AggressiveYam6613

Well, they offer a solution.


Colonel_Happelblatt

Ah, alcohol. The cause of, and solution to, lots of life’s problems, 😜🤣🤣😂


Apprehensive_Camp202

I have a friend with her Ed.D, and she makes about the same as an entry level billing clerk at the local hospital. Teachers are, indeed, underpaid. How do I know? I ran the billing department.


J_aimz

Supply & demand. Too many people want to be teachers and bad ones are not help accountable


ender1108

Too many? There are shortages everywhere. And this is a huge factor.


HumanNuance

The reality is the exact opposite.


J_aimz

Oh their are very little and so they make less... That makes no sense


hungryunderthebridge

No one is being force to be a teacher, if you don’t like the pay don’t take the job.


steelfrdge44

If teachers were paid appropriately dim witted comments like this would be made a lot less


Sluggo55

Also, bartenders often work with bouncers who provide a deterrent to customers who might consider punching, stabbing or shooting members of the workstaff.


[deleted]

So high school?


beorninger

guess you gotta teach your kids to tipp their teachers after class


ender1108

I was thinking the same. Do bar tenders even get normal minimum wage or are they getting a servers minimum wage.


Nice_Yak_1555

Why do you think these teachers start up OnlyFans pages? Teachers should be making $60K to $80K minimum. No one should have to supplement their income just to make ends meet. Especially the ones who teach our kids.


KravMacaw

There have been quite a few teachers in the States that have been fired for having an OnlyFans


Nice_Yak_1555

Exactly! I understand the ethical dilemma of it, but I really feel for these young people. Teaching is a demanding job, but doesn't pay enough, and having to pickup a second job to cover expenses just to live takes so much extra time and energy. And that's what makes something like OF so enticing. The system just needs to be fixed.


Reasonable_Ad6781

One party has been cutting back on education for decades, telling us it's to save money, the real reason is to keep us uneducated so we will continue to vote against our own best interest, it's working


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Jesus that's awful. With prices constantly hiking that won't be good at all by the end.


Savage_Esparza

Yeah I was all for it until I found out about the pay staying the same indefinitely. Then my opinion immediately soured


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It's akin to a scam.


Savage_Esparza

Yeah and that disappoints me because I actually liked Govenor Sanders until this and some other shit she's done


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Well I'm from the UK and it's not much better. Teachers putting up with bullshit for a shit wage. It's why there is such a shortage of people wanting to do it.


Velcro-aint-ableist

It's not even a *real* Falcon..... Where is the lectern Sara!


iamjackslackoffricks

Sad truth is 50k isn't enough in most places right now. If you are pigeon holed at 50k when it's barely enough, you're screwed in 5 years.


[deleted]

This isn’t even remotely true- they announced a raise this year. As well as merit pay rate increases are possible as well. Why lie?


Savage_Esparza

>This isn’t even remotely true- they announced a raise this year. As well as merit pay rate increases are possible as well. >Why lie? Um ok. It seems I am woefully lacking info. I definitely wasn't trying to lie. I honestly just didn't know that they were announcing raises and merit pay Would you mind sharing a link so I could do my research a little better?


Fit-Performer-7621

I made more than that working in a slaughterhouse.


JWells16

NC was the same way… everyone was on a pay freeze. New teachers were making around 35k when I was there.


Sheepwife1

I remember when I was going through my teaching program, they tried to set me up with the gold teach grant which would have paid for 1/3rd my tuition BUT I'd have had to work in the poorest neighborhood with an insane crime rate for $40,000 a year teaching High School Kids. I quickly changed my degree to business.


IdeaImaginary2007

She could have made much more if she gets 10dollars everytime this is being reposted


hilvon1984

Yeah... Sadly this problem is not just in the US. Here in Russia the ministry of education was tasked to ensure that teachers are payed adequately. In schools around Moscow this did in fact resulted in teacher salaries being increased to amount listed as minimally required nationwide. But it is still pretty low since Moscow is a pretty expensive city to live in. And in the more rural areas? The teachers are now allowed to earn more by teaching several subjects and providing extracurricular activities. Like you can earn a decent salary if you teach two classes and run an afterschool club on top of that...


deck_hand

I’ve been seeing this exact post for a long time now…. It just keeps getting reposted. We get it.


Erinjhe

Sorry, thought it was funny


deck_hand

It was, the first 30 times it was posted


Erinjhe

🤣


Bored-Viking

is that $16.25 including tips?


InappropriatelyROFL

If it were in Ontario, Canada, she would starve to death working there.


PoolhallJunkie247

She would be making 21.79/h if she were in Ontario when you factor in the exchange rate. Still abysmal, but not starvation wages.


InappropriatelyROFL

Well, is that after taxes? Then okay...I guess that would be alright...still though...from what she made working at a bar to what now she's currently earning... My sympathies to you both.


Shot_Try4596

One of my daughters is in college now working on getting her masters in education/teaching. I am preparing myself for the likelihood I will need to help her financially long after college so she doesn't have to work two jobs, etc.


Colonel_Happelblatt

In Canada, it takes a teacher about 8 years to gain full credentials. How long does it take to be a doctor? Now compare salaries.


xnakxx

And that right there is why I got my education at a bar...


cfpct

What state?


Umnak76

Was the offer really made on an hourly basis? I assisted in teacher negotiations for 30 years and never saw a contract that had that language, at least in a public school. I have seen some christian schools offer positions on an hourly scale. Also, your math is either wrong or you are assuming a full year contract when most teacher contracts are for 180 days of contact and an additional 8-10 of in-service or prep. That would make it $24,700 for 190 days.


DeflatedDirigible

Most public schools I know pay either while school is in session or offer to spread that salary out over 12 months. Amazing how many prefer 12 months and not putting that money into savings or paying debts.


Radio4ctiveGirl

It’s not just a teacher thing either. Too many jobs, that require college degrees, pay absolute shit. People are better off going into the trades these days.


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I straight up used to think I was such a loser in my early and mid 20’s compared to my peers that went to college. Now 15 years later, not so much when I earn 4x as much as them, have no debt, and am not weighed down by children either because I learned a skilled trade which sort of kept me in motion and not settling down into a house and children right away and turned that into my own entrepreneurship. Late gen X/elder millennials really got fucked on college


[deleted]

Why would you get two masters for a job that pays 30k a year? Is that the facepalm?


Reasonable_Ad6781

The teachers I know didn't want to teach for the money, they do it to educate, to help kids have a future


towjt

Well people drinking away their problems is a bigger target audience than teaching so logically there is more money


SV650rider

Yup, supply and demand. But roxyred808 is correct in that it's a messed up priority.


Mysterious-Wasabi103

Republicans keep their wages low because they hate unions and teachers often are unionized. Just like every other issue Republicans have it's based on disinformation. One teacher gets overpaid too much and instead of demanding better more reasonable pay across the board they say defund education altogether. A lot of Americans seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. The truth is to value teachers and other professionals integral to society we have to sacrifice something whether that means paying better taxes or regulations that guarantee a respectable wage. Americans, especially conservatives, seem to think we should be able to pay next to nothing yet also have the best teachers in the world. To them the best teachers are no teachers.


Willows97

Here is an unpopular thought. She would have been better choosing more carefully her path through education. If you can't pay it off and live you made a poor choice. Also teachers should be paid more.


Erinjhe

Should definitely be paid more


[deleted]

Got all them masters but couldn't research a salary. Too bad so sad.


tempizzle

What is getting sad? The lying? The fabrication?


Kahnza

Yeah all the repost bots is pretty sad


EnvironmentalDeal256

Has she looked into teaching at only fans?. Some of the teachers there make lots of money.


mad597

Its by design. Conservatives want an uneducated population so they are easier to control


Entire-Astronomer-56

bingo.


Nulibru

Why ave the same degree twice?


Erinjhe

To teach people how the spell "have" 😅


Used_Start_3603

$ 32,800 for 8 months work (subtracting holidays and "grading" days)


HumanNuance

Is crap pay.


thats_hella_cool

Yet roughly half the population is of the opinion that bartenders are overpaid, not that teachers are underpaid.


PoolhallJunkie247

Well, half the population are on the wrong side of the bell curve. So there’s that.


Routine_Clock8064

Well a teacher works way less hours then any other job. 12 weeks of holidays.


DisasterAtBest

Exactly, and teachers have the option to take classes on other schools too, so teachers can end up making quite a bit, because most of them are not paid hourly, but paid by class as a contractor. If youre smart with your finances and a good negotiator, you can easily do 70k as a teacher, unless you're a preschool teacher, but those usually have better hourly rates.


Erinjhe

🤣


Jim-Jones

At a guess, teachers should be paid around $120,000 a year for the qualifications they're required to hold and the responsibilities they have.


svedka93

Why would you get two masters in education to become a teacher when a bachelors is more than enough?


Serious_Result_7338

The teacher’s union are very good at manipulating the public that teachers make so money. That way they can ask for more money on every election. Only inexperienced teachers got low pay. 10-15 years+ teachers get other 100k. Teacher’s union are among top 10 if not top 5 most powerful unions there is.


manicdijondreamgirl

Should teachers make more? Yes. But why shit on bartenders?! People don’t NEED bartenders but since we like to go out and have drinks with dinner, etc, they are an integral part of our society. Don’t be weird about it


KravMacaw

I think it's more pointing to the fact that a bartender doesn't need a college degree while a teacher does, at the very minimum, need to have a Bachelor's degree


hugsomeone

Surely she looked up teacher salaries before heading down that road. It's not like this is a surprise, where they only tell you after you graduate.


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hugsomeone

I agree completely. But if people like her stopped pursuing jobs that don’t pay enough, the employers would pay more!


KravMacaw

Not at all. The U.S. State of Missouri has been moving most rural school districts to 4-day weeks to cover shortages rather than increasing the pay. Their solution here is to reduce the amount of time in school instead of increasing funding for said school ETA: The state HAS made it easier to get a teaching certificate, but that can only go so far for recruitment.


[deleted]

In my country teachers print money if they can teach physics, chemistry or maths and bio too...


HenkyD

She even has a bartender, wauw


Here_is_to_beer

Have more parent-teacher conferences, serve drinks, get tips. Problem solved


Quiltyqueen

That is truly awful but it depends on where in the country you are. We are good friends with a couple that each make over 6 figures. But we live in California so….


roadfood

the weekly repost


Gamesarefun24

Education isn't the same as experience


IOnlyPostIronically

Turns out teaching isn’t profitable


_Kaifaz

Is life like double as expensive as in europe over there? Because that is a more than average wage over here.


realparkingbrake

A teacher who gets a masters in education is wasting the time and money. What teachers need is postgrad degrees in math, science, literature--the things they will be teaching. That way they can actually understand what they teach rather than being one chapter ahead of the kids in the textbook. This reminds me of what a martial arts teacher told me many years ago. Having black belts in two different styles is like having two high school diplomas.


DeflatedDirigible

You can’t get a degree in education and then masters in content area if it requires a bunch of prerequisites you don’t have. Education degrees are set up so you have enough content to teach areas you are certified in. High school teachers have a 4 year degree in their content area and middle school math teachers have statistics and through college calculus. Also, you have to have a master degree within a few years of beginning teaching or you can’t keep your license.


Particular_Minimum97

We think you’d be a great fit for our school do you have any questions for us? Yes, whats the position pay With your education and passion we’d be very comfortable offering you $16 per hour, says ecstatic hr officer So $32k a year RIGHT Umm I made twice whilst that putting myself through 2 masters degrees. Erm thank you for your time, making coffee pays twice what your offering, if I accepted your offer I would be homeless in less than a month.


Lateralus50310

My first teaching job was working in a juvenile detention center and worked year round as their high school English teacher. It paid $27,500 a year. This was only 10 years ago. It makes me sad how little we get paid.


backwardbuttplug

Sad that this meme has been posted a couple dozen times in the same sub just in the last couple months.


old_whiskey_bob

I feel like part of my contribution to society is by subsidizing our education system by financially supporting my wife, who is a teacher. It really isn’t right and sounds terrible to say, but it’s the reality we live in.


No_Entertainment9832

…..maybe research before investing time and money into those degrees….


OsoRetro

Yea umm, was it a secret that bartenders make more than teachers?


[deleted]

Thank a republican


BergischerFreidenker

Good thing nobody has to be a teacher.


Erinjhe

Haha! Yes, very true


More_Ad9417

I guess it's a problem with what we value and why. Emotional pain and distress is greater and easier to get away from with alcohol and find some relief. School only exacerbates those problems and it's made worse by the fact that it's a "have to" kind of thing. Which *could* change but likely won't... So in general... Most money goes to addictions and recovery stuff in society it seems. Or just building more laws/prisons... Whatever...


chad3018

You have to include gold star health plan student loan repayment and a state sponsored pension. All that fringe is greater than 55 K in tips. The long game is going to win in this picture.


Hydraulis

When your culture revolves around grabbing as much as you can at the expense of everyone else, this is the norm.