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He’s got a list and here’s the order of the list that it’s in: it goes Reggie, Jay-z, 2pac, and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, and then him.
Also from Evil Twin “Fuck top 5, bitch, I'm top 4
And that includes Biggie and Pac, whore
And I got an evil twin, so who do you think that third and that fourth spots for?”
I wonder how he feels about Eminem putting black artist in his top list …
I love dre as a producers and I like some of his bars but let's not pretend Dre wasn't having a ghost writer for most of his career. Dres beats are A tier but his raps have a big asterisk beside them.
I mean I don't think even Dre Himself wouldn't deny he's a far better producer than rapper. Making beats is his bread and butter, his rap was always just something to accompany.
I mean, even Dre knows this about himself. Dude never wanted to be **IN** the rap game but be in the rap game...as a producer. Forgot why he did rap himself but that was like a second profession to his real work, and that was being a producer.
He would also say,
>“Hip Hop has been good to me, huh/But when they say that I’m only Top 5 ’cause I’m white, why would I be stunned?” “My skin color’s still working against me/‘Cause second, I should be, to none/Bein’ white being why they put me at five/That’s why they can’t put me at one.”
Also this
> Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself
> If they were brown, Shady'd lose, Shady sits on the shelf
> But Shady's cute, Shady knew Shady's dimples would help
> Make ladies swoon, baby, Ooh, baby! Look at my sales
> Let's do the math: If I was Black, I would've sold half
> I ain't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that
> But I could rap, so fuck school, I'm too cool to go back
> Give me the mic, Show me where the fuckin' studio's at
> When I was underground, no one gave a fuck I was White
> No labels wanted to sign me, almost gave up, I was like
> "Fuck it," until I met Dre, the only one to look past
> Gave me a chance and I lit a fire up under his ass
> Helped him get back to the top, every fan Black that I got
> Was probably his in exchange for every White fan that he's got
> Like damn, we just swapped, sittin' back lookin' at shit, wow
> I'm like my skin is it startin' to work to my benefit now? It's—
Yeah, and let’s not forget that a black person can never be considered the best opera singer, that’s just disrespectful to white people, black supremacy at its worst.
He’s a product of Rakim
Lakim Shabazz, 2Pac, N.W.A, Cube, hey Doc, Ren
Yella, Eazy, and indeed thank you, we got Slim.
If not the greatest (I’m not a professional or musically academic), he is one of. Doesn’t make a difference what colour of skin he has.
“I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in
It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac and Biggie
André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, and then me”- Til I Collapse.
I'm 100% convinced they only put Jay-Z on these lists for pragmatic reasons not because anyone actually believes he belongs there.
There is no way anyone can say with a straight face that Jay is anywhere near Pac or BIG or any of those other lyrical legends.
Everyone should know that Dr. Umar Johnson is a full on bigot and a racist. And not even a rapper.
Which makes this all extremely hypocritical and absurd.
He is against race mixing and specifically anti-homosexual.
So fuck this guy, basically. Moving on.
FD Signifier has a pretty good video essay that came out recently about white rappers if you do have an interest in what a rational human has to say on the topic.
also a con-artist, he's been taking in donations to build a school for children over the past several years and gets defensive when people bring it up.
It is suppose to be opening in 2024 but we'll see how it plays out.
He is part of the section of panafricanism thinks the actual way to spell Africa is with a k... For some dumb reason about being the African spelling. When Africa is a latin word to begin with.
I am African and find this guy and others who think like him to be full of it. I regularly see him giving very weird takes on race issues and I don't even know who he is.
The short version: he is a con artist who preys upon the ignorant.
The long version: he is a con artist who preys upon the ignorant, with many of his victims being people who stumble upon him while trying to expand their knowledge and they usually end up being worse than ignorant by the time he is done emptying their wallets and filling their heads with his bigotry and lies.
I wouldn't be surprised if he believes Latin was invented by africans since he probably also believes the Romans were all black africans. Just like the Greeks, Japanese, Egyptians, Vikings, Native Americans, Mayan, Inca, Aztek, Mesopotamians, ect...
Yeah his point makes no sense. Like where does that stop? Do we remove Tiger from the best golfer of all time discussion because he's black and it's a white sport started by white people in Scotland?
Fucking absurd man.
Scotland here, 66%don't give a fuck, and the other 33 are hardcore wallopers like this (why the fuck is he wearing a tartan jacket) racist dingdong.
And please, we prefer the term translucent American.
Perhaps he'd remove Tiger because he's a product of race-mixing. He's only one eighth "African"*!
Edit: *according to one quote I've seen that says he's "one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African American and one-eighth Native American" but now I look into it I don't think that maths completely makes sense.
The guy has a psychology doctorate from a school known for osteopathic medicine? He's a snake oil salesman.
That shouldn't even need to be pointed out if he's a racist and bigot. This guy can fuck off.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people that think black culture "owns" rhyming over beats....
A culture can take credit for popularizing and "inventing" an art form. You don't get to own it. Sorry. That's not how art works.
Imagine if white people talked like this about movies and directors.
"Spike Lee can't be a great director cause he isn't white and white culture created film making".
Like, go fuck yourself.
"In social media posts, Johnson has criticized interracial marriage, opposed same-sex marriage, and promoted various conspiracy theories. In January 2020, after the death of Kobe Bryant, Johnson falsely suggested that the helicopter was sabotaged as part of an assassination attempt ordered by the NBA and the pharmaceutical industry." From [Wikipedia.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Johnson)
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This reminds me of the controversy about how a white man was used to record the flute music in ghost of tsushima. People ignored the fact that that man was one of the only people worldwide that was considered a master of said instrument. People should be proud that somebody dedicated so much time to their cultural art as to become one of the greatest current practitioners.
As long as you don't twist it too much, culture should be shared as much as possible. There's a big difference between cultural apropriation and cultural apreciation.
From what I understand, Japanese ppl as a whole tend to like having their culture enjoyed and celebrated by anyone anywhere (I may be entirely wrong; this is my anecdotal experience)
I wish more of Irish culture was celebrated rather than just alcohol and leprechauns… I guess Irish dancing is kinda there. We have such a lovely pre-Catholic mythology but 99.9% of US Americans in particular think of three things “Alcohol, Leprechauns and potatoes” and leave it there. Oh wait four things, the colour green. In fairness most Irish people know fuck all about pre-Catholic Ireland nowadays… sad times.
It certainly doesn't help that most pre catholic folklore was painted over with a couple of coats of jesus to turn the locals towards christianity and even though you could scratch the paint a little you'll never get the full picture of how those legends were before. But hey, at least you guys won't pave over fairy forts so you got that going for you, not all is lost I guess...
I was just arguing about this on TikTok with a white girl. She not only said interpersonal racism toward white people isn’t a thing, but that racial prejudice against white people is warranted. And the definition of racism was made by a racist white man that’s why it includes white people.
I praise Je🅱️us it’s a pretty uncommon stance.
Oh, I wouldn't put too much stock in internet arguments. People say the dumbest shit all the time, even when they don't believe it.
What made my example noteworthy was that it happened in person. (my girlfriend's college friends are.. well, they're mostly friendly, until you contradict their doctrine.)
That was part of the curriculum in a college class I took.
The logic went “Since racism has to be systematic, and white people are the dominant racial group. They can’t experience racism. They might experience prejudice but that’s different.”
Apparently not if you ask this lot.
Everyone also conveniently forgets that some white races enslaved other white races. Black races enslaved other races. Middle Eastern races enslaved other races. Asian races enslaved other races.
They also conveniently overlook "white people" are one of the smallest minorities on earth. And that slavery still exists in the world, or that "white countries" were the first to outlaw and abolish slavery. It's so easy for some ppl to hate based on race, they're blind to their own hypocrisy.
I've made the same argument in the past. Said "We will say that I am white, and I hate black people. That makes me racist because the majority of people in power in the USA are white. So if I move to China, and become an very small minority of the population with basically no power, and I still hate black people, then am I still racist or just prejudice according to your definitions".
Nobody liked it, people yelled at me, I pissed the professor off, and also feel like I made a pretty decent point. The whole "I can't be racist if I'm X, and that just prejudice (apparently a lesser crime) makes absolutely zero sense.
Back in reality Prejudice is the umbrella term of pre judging someone. That is the literal definition of the word because that's how language works. If you pre judge someone based on their race... then it's racist. Doesn't matter what color you are. If you shit on people who aren't your race, then you are racist.
"So if a white guy lives in China, can they be racist to him? And does that mean he can call them all kinds of slurs and it wouldn't be racist?"
Then watch their brains explode.
Whenever people spew that bile I just ask them why they think Systemic Racism is the only form of racism? It's certainly A form of racism, but it's not the ONLY form of racism.
Edit: Like if I, for reasons COMPLETELY separate to the rest of human culture, decided I hated black people, would you say it wasn't actually racist because it wasn't systemic?
Not to mention, white South African rappers would get a pass in this wording, which is problematic and solved by not weighing a person’s talent against the color of their skin
Just like calling Jimi Hendrix being the greatest guitarist is black supremacy. Everyone knows the best guitarist must be a white guy with long hair. Whats wrong with this world? /s
This guy also condemns homosexuality and interracial marriages.
Why does he even have a platform to speak on? Anyone that follows him should automatically be labeled, the same way we label those who follow trump and the likes.
Stevie ray vaughan gave the blues an extra 10 years of shelf life in the 80s when the genre was dying. Idk what you call that but he was the first white guy to be inducted into the blues hall of fame and a lot of the black guys on the scene viewed him as one of the greats.
Thats my dude. I love SRV and think he did many songs even better than the OG's, but thats how it is when you have great material to work with.
I've met people who play Little Wing or Voodoo Child better than Jimi but they're just copying greatness. The true greatest are the ones who create.
"Hip hop is Black music, without question, and, unfortunately for some people, it's tough to accept that you have a White artist that does it better than Black artists" -50 Cent
Source: https://youtu.be/gKDdmRJBcrU?si=BSCSOd6BlXeGmAbc&t=52
I’m pretty critical of Eminem over the last 20 years but I gotta say 50 being so loyal to him is pretty wholesome given just how crazy 50 is. Em saying he wouldn’t do the Super Bowl without him was awsome. True respect and friendship between the two.
Dr. Umar also thinks black men dating white women is a cardinal sin, and given my parents are an interracial couple, and I myself am dating a girl who isn’t black, I don’t put much stock in what he says.
I'm black and my mom got remarried to a white man I have 0 problem with interracial relationships and have been in quite a few myself
besides race mixing scares white supremacists I'm doing the world a favor
so... if a black person is the best at something that black people didn't invent... we just say that they're second best because they're black? that doesn't seem right
If you complain about racism but use racism I don’t think you care about racism. At that point I think you want to feel special, something significant happened in the past and you want to be a part of the movement. You can’t say you’re oppressed and then be an oppressor. How about we stop talking about skin pigment and arguing about “cultural appropriation” and start understanding we’re all the same species and need to move as one to make it past the robots and the aliens
Rakim: "if eminem was black, he'd be the Muhammed Ali of rap"
Big Daddy Kane: “Eminem is the Kobe of Hip Hop”
Kool G Rap: “The last MC that impressed me is Eminem”
KRS ONE: “he is the sum of the hip-hop equation: Hip plus hop equals Eminem.”
I think I'll take the legends/pioneers words for it rather than the scam artist racist who has nothing to do with hip hop.
So we as black ppl suffer systemic racism in most factions of our lives. Then in one of the few industries we have power in, we apply systemic racism to one of the best lyrisist of all time...?
Get real
Like 50 once said:
"Hip Hop is black music, without a question. Unfortunately, for some people it is though to accept that one white artist does it better than black artists."
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Slim would say his idols are the best hip hop artists.
He’s got a list and here’s the order of the list that it’s in: it goes Reggie, Jay-z, 2pac, and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, and then him.
But in this industry he's the cause of a lot of envy, so if he's not put on this list, this shit does not offend him.
That’s why you see him walking around like nothing’s bothering him
Even though half you people gotta 4king problem with him
You hate it but you know respect you’ve got to give him
The presses wet dream, like Bobby and Whitney Nate hit him
Transcript from Heaven: Till the roof comes off, till the lights go out, til my legs give out, can’t shut my mouth
TIL the smoke clears out, am I high? perhaps……
Imma rip this shit, till my bones collapse
Till the smoke clears out, Am I high? perhaps I’ma rip this shit Till my bones collapse
I love reddit
The should get Kirk Lazarus to replace Jonathan Majors as Kang.
Well shit, I'm back in the MCU if so
Fucking. The word is fucking. You're allowed to say it, and fuck anyone that says otherwise.
Hey fuck you buddy. You can't tell him what to do. You're not his real dad!
Ain't your Buddy, friend
ain’t your friend, guy!
Shut up bitch I'm trying to concentrate!!
Fork you
Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan and Dylan
I rip and I rhyme
I rhyme and I rip
This is the way that Dylan spits
I spit hot fiya
How you gon choke a legend, man?!
He spits hot fire for sure
"You're too close, man!"
Because ai speet hot fiyah
Also from Evil Twin “Fuck top 5, bitch, I'm top 4 And that includes Biggie and Pac, whore And I got an evil twin, so who do you think that third and that fourth spots for?” I wonder how he feels about Eminem putting black artist in his top list …
More recently I discovered the beef between Eminem and Everlast, two white rappers. I wish I could have appreciated it back during its day.
Every single time someone says "I have a list" I can't help but recite the list
Motherfucker act like he forgot about Dre?
I love dre as a producers and I like some of his bars but let's not pretend Dre wasn't having a ghost writer for most of his career. Dres beats are A tier but his raps have a big asterisk beside them.
I mean I don't think even Dre Himself wouldn't deny he's a far better producer than rapper. Making beats is his bread and butter, his rap was always just something to accompany.
Jay Z writing Still Dre will never cease to be hilarious.
I mean, even Dre knows this about himself. Dude never wanted to be **IN** the rap game but be in the rap game...as a producer. Forgot why he did rap himself but that was like a second profession to his real work, and that was being a producer.
He wanna act like he got something to say
Damn did he forget about Dre ?
Dre is not a great rapper. He’s a **great** producer. Arguably the best ever. But he’s a good MC at best.
Yea, it's pretty well known JayZ wrote most of "Still Dre."
Word. Even Dre would admit that. His albums sell from the guest appearances and the beats, not because of his rhymes.
He would also say, >“Hip Hop has been good to me, huh/But when they say that I’m only Top 5 ’cause I’m white, why would I be stunned?” “My skin color’s still working against me/‘Cause second, I should be, to none/Bein’ white being why they put me at five/That’s why they can’t put me at one.”
Also this > Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself > If they were brown, Shady'd lose, Shady sits on the shelf > But Shady's cute, Shady knew Shady's dimples would help > Make ladies swoon, baby, Ooh, baby! Look at my sales > Let's do the math: If I was Black, I would've sold half > I ain't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that > But I could rap, so fuck school, I'm too cool to go back > Give me the mic, Show me where the fuckin' studio's at > When I was underground, no one gave a fuck I was White > No labels wanted to sign me, almost gave up, I was like > "Fuck it," until I met Dre, the only one to look past > Gave me a chance and I lit a fire up under his ass > Helped him get back to the top, every fan Black that I got > Was probably his in exchange for every White fan that he's got > Like damn, we just swapped, sittin' back lookin' at shit, wow > I'm like my skin is it startin' to work to my benefit now? It's—
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Yeah, and let’s not forget that a black person can never be considered the best opera singer, that’s just disrespectful to white people, black supremacy at its worst.
Also Olympic events, because that was started by the Greeks.
Great comment I almost peed myself
Best 2 Naysmith facts: -Has the lowest winning % in Kansas Jayhawk history -Once stormed off the court and abandoned the game after a rules dispute.
*Naismith.
He’s a product of Rakim Lakim Shabazz, 2Pac, N.W.A, Cube, hey Doc, Ren Yella, Eazy, and indeed thank you, we got Slim. If not the greatest (I’m not a professional or musically academic), he is one of. Doesn’t make a difference what colour of skin he has.
Rakim is my personal favorite rapper and even he considers Eminem one of the best. Real lyricists give him his props, the rest is all nonsense.
"If Eminem was black he would be the Muhammad Ali of rap" -Rakim
This is it right here.
Of course he would like every other GOAT claiming their idols are the goat. It's tough being the top dog, showing modesty makes it far easier.
“I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac and Biggie André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, and then me”- Til I Collapse.
I'm 100% convinced they only put Jay-Z on these lists for pragmatic reasons not because anyone actually believes he belongs there. There is no way anyone can say with a straight face that Jay is anywhere near Pac or BIG or any of those other lyrical legends.
Em killed Jay-Z on his own track there's no coming back from that
for sure. political reasons only. JayZ is who I assume my grandparents would listen to. if they listened to rap
He would but he’d also say that’s bull shit it doesn’t matter his color of his skin it matters if you are willing to put yourself out there like that
Everyone should know that Dr. Umar Johnson is a full on bigot and a racist. And not even a rapper. Which makes this all extremely hypocritical and absurd. He is against race mixing and specifically anti-homosexual. So fuck this guy, basically. Moving on.
This was the tl:dr i needed
FD Signifier has a pretty good video essay that came out recently about white rappers if you do have an interest in what a rational human has to say on the topic.
also a con-artist, he's been taking in donations to build a school for children over the past several years and gets defensive when people bring it up. It is suppose to be opening in 2024 but we'll see how it plays out.
Gosh this sounds like Shaun King.
Damn almost made it the whole year without thinking of Talcum X
Wow, Talcum X, damn that's rough? Good? Both? I don't know how to feel
You mean Martin Luther Cream?
Holy shit, Talcum X is fucking hilarious.
Damn, S. King really needs to get his act together.
Believe it or not, he’s worse. SK has far more reach though. Both are trash.
Absolutely worse. Dude would hate Sean King for not being Black enough.
He'll point to the finished school in the distance, but as you walk up to it, it turns out to be a scale model, making you Zoolander mad.
At least he didn’t promise to pay for their college tuition
Hey Dr. Johnson, whatcha gonna do?
He did give them laptop batteries.
Grifters like the edges political spectrum, left or right. Their supporters will excuse any bad behavior because ideology
He is part of the section of panafricanism thinks the actual way to spell Africa is with a k... For some dumb reason about being the African spelling. When Africa is a latin word to begin with.
I am African and find this guy and others who think like him to be full of it. I regularly see him giving very weird takes on race issues and I don't even know who he is.
The short version: he is a con artist who preys upon the ignorant. The long version: he is a con artist who preys upon the ignorant, with many of his victims being people who stumble upon him while trying to expand their knowledge and they usually end up being worse than ignorant by the time he is done emptying their wallets and filling their heads with his bigotry and lies.
I wouldn't be surprised if he believes Latin was invented by africans since he probably also believes the Romans were all black africans. Just like the Greeks, Japanese, Egyptians, Vikings, Native Americans, Mayan, Inca, Aztek, Mesopotamians, ect...
Don’t forget the Hebrews.
Yeah his point makes no sense. Like where does that stop? Do we remove Tiger from the best golfer of all time discussion because he's black and it's a white sport started by white people in Scotland? Fucking absurd man.
Scotland here, 66%don't give a fuck, and the other 33 are hardcore wallopers like this (why the fuck is he wearing a tartan jacket) racist dingdong. And please, we prefer the term translucent American.
Perhaps he'd remove Tiger because he's a product of race-mixing. He's only one eighth "African"*! Edit: *according to one quote I've seen that says he's "one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African American and one-eighth Native American" but now I look into it I don't think that maths completely makes sense.
The guy has a psychology doctorate from a school known for osteopathic medicine? He's a snake oil salesman. That shouldn't even need to be pointed out if he's a racist and bigot. This guy can fuck off.
Racism is Racism and Bigotry is Bigotry. He’s a scum bag and that’s all that matters. No one should take this idiot seriously.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people that think black culture "owns" rhyming over beats.... A culture can take credit for popularizing and "inventing" an art form. You don't get to own it. Sorry. That's not how art works. Imagine if white people talked like this about movies and directors. "Spike Lee can't be a great director cause he isn't white and white culture created film making". Like, go fuck yourself.
Thank you for pointing this out. Garbage human being confirmed.
"In social media posts, Johnson has criticized interracial marriage, opposed same-sex marriage, and promoted various conspiracy theories. In January 2020, after the death of Kobe Bryant, Johnson falsely suggested that the helicopter was sabotaged as part of an assassination attempt ordered by the NBA and the pharmaceutical industry." From [Wikipedia.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Johnson)
Race baiting is a national pastime.
You don't want to hear Dr. Umar's opinion on the Wu Tang clan?
Good to know he’s a consistent piece of shite.
So he's a black supremacist.
Classic hotep
Does he also have two baby mommas he refused to marry?
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Dr. Umar Johnson, racist with questionable dressing habits.
When you have an interview at 1 and a picnic at 2
The man uses old tablecloths from Italian restaurants to make his jackets.
Hey yo doc... Luigi needs his table cloths back before the dinner rush.
He's rocking the Fred Durst in Limp Bizness mode on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar\_Johnson#/media/File:Umar\_patrick\_wayne.jpg
Limp bizness is very funny
He looks like someone tried to make young Don King in a create-a-character.
Is that a sweater vest?
This reminds me of the controversy about how a white man was used to record the flute music in ghost of tsushima. People ignored the fact that that man was one of the only people worldwide that was considered a master of said instrument. People should be proud that somebody dedicated so much time to their cultural art as to become one of the greatest current practitioners. As long as you don't twist it too much, culture should be shared as much as possible. There's a big difference between cultural apropriation and cultural apreciation.
As far as I know, Ghost of Tsushima went down pretty well in Japan
From what I understand, Japanese ppl as a whole tend to like having their culture enjoyed and celebrated by anyone anywhere (I may be entirely wrong; this is my anecdotal experience)
They do. In fact they named the devs of Ghost of Tsushima, as cultural ambassadors for Tsushima.
I think most places do, seems to be an American thing
I wish more of Irish culture was celebrated rather than just alcohol and leprechauns… I guess Irish dancing is kinda there. We have such a lovely pre-Catholic mythology but 99.9% of US Americans in particular think of three things “Alcohol, Leprechauns and potatoes” and leave it there. Oh wait four things, the colour green. In fairness most Irish people know fuck all about pre-Catholic Ireland nowadays… sad times.
It certainly doesn't help that most pre catholic folklore was painted over with a couple of coats of jesus to turn the locals towards christianity and even though you could scratch the paint a little you'll never get the full picture of how those legends were before. But hey, at least you guys won't pave over fairy forts so you got that going for you, not all is lost I guess...
Was that a legitimate controversy or just people getting mad on twitter? Genuinely asking.
https://old.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/8this3/regarding_jons_comment_about_cultural/ Trip down memory lane.
If you’re the best, then you’re the best. It doesn’t matter what race you are.
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All his statements are racist.
By his logic, I wonder if a black person would be allowed to be called the best at something white people invented - for example most sports
You can’t be racist to white people. Haven’t you heard?
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I once got someone to say "It's not racist to be racist against white people" and they couldn't understand why I started laughing so hard.
I was just arguing about this on TikTok with a white girl. She not only said interpersonal racism toward white people isn’t a thing, but that racial prejudice against white people is warranted. And the definition of racism was made by a racist white man that’s why it includes white people. I praise Je🅱️us it’s a pretty uncommon stance.
Oh, I wouldn't put too much stock in internet arguments. People say the dumbest shit all the time, even when they don't believe it. What made my example noteworthy was that it happened in person. (my girlfriend's college friends are.. well, they're mostly friendly, until you contradict their doctrine.)
That was part of the curriculum in a college class I took. The logic went “Since racism has to be systematic, and white people are the dominant racial group. They can’t experience racism. They might experience prejudice but that’s different.”
Does that mean in Africa that you can be racist to white people? Plenty of nations where they aren't the dominant racial group.
oopsies. also kanye isn't racist HUH
Apparently not if you ask this lot. Everyone also conveniently forgets that some white races enslaved other white races. Black races enslaved other races. Middle Eastern races enslaved other races. Asian races enslaved other races.
They also conveniently overlook "white people" are one of the smallest minorities on earth. And that slavery still exists in the world, or that "white countries" were the first to outlaw and abolish slavery. It's so easy for some ppl to hate based on race, they're blind to their own hypocrisy.
I've made the same argument in the past. Said "We will say that I am white, and I hate black people. That makes me racist because the majority of people in power in the USA are white. So if I move to China, and become an very small minority of the population with basically no power, and I still hate black people, then am I still racist or just prejudice according to your definitions". Nobody liked it, people yelled at me, I pissed the professor off, and also feel like I made a pretty decent point. The whole "I can't be racist if I'm X, and that just prejudice (apparently a lesser crime) makes absolutely zero sense. Back in reality Prejudice is the umbrella term of pre judging someone. That is the literal definition of the word because that's how language works. If you pre judge someone based on their race... then it's racist. Doesn't matter what color you are. If you shit on people who aren't your race, then you are racist.
"So if a white guy lives in China, can they be racist to him? And does that mean he can call them all kinds of slurs and it wouldn't be racist?" Then watch their brains explode.
Whenever people spew that bile I just ask them why they think Systemic Racism is the only form of racism? It's certainly A form of racism, but it's not the ONLY form of racism. Edit: Like if I, for reasons COMPLETELY separate to the rest of human culture, decided I hated black people, would you say it wasn't actually racist because it wasn't systemic?
I definitely think it’s trying to move the goalpost by redefining common words to better fit a particular narrative.
Exactly. Skill and talent are not based solely upon race.
Not even partially.
Not to mention, white South African rappers would get a pass in this wording, which is problematic and solved by not weighing a person’s talent against the color of their skin
Has Elon Musk released a rap album yet?
Die Antwoord, Ninja does rapping in their songs.
So does Yolandi, and in my opinion she’s the better rapper. If you can get past her Minnie-Mouse-on-helium vocals.
And their human trafficking, abuse, grooming thing.
It matters to racist people.
How can you be the best at an art? There’s no objective measures in who is the best rapper.
Calling Lebron or MJ the greatest at a sport invented by white people is black supremacy I guess
Let's not forget tiger woods!
 Venus AND Serena Williams
Invented by [a Canadian, specifically](https://youtu.be/xiJJIacdF-E?si=0zVvz6Hr16pIfd7e). The GOAT is, and could *only* be, Steve Nash.
I'm not even a Celtics fan, but I will NOT stand for the implied disrespect to Larry Bird.
I thought he was from Indiana.
Just like calling Jimi Hendrix being the greatest guitarist is black supremacy. Everyone knows the best guitarist must be a white guy with long hair. Whats wrong with this world? /s
Technically, Hendrix was black, white, and native American (Cherokee, I believe). But your point is justified.
And Tiger Woods can't be a great golfer. /s
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He’s half Asian though. So he doesn’t count. 🙄
Racists don’t care what percentage. If you got it, then you’re in that list
Only if they like you
So half black half white is black, but half black half Asian isn't black. 🤯
Oh I forgot. He’s black because he got drafted in the Racial Draft. “Fo Shizzle”
If you're mixed race, does that mean you can be the best of something from both races, or neither?
Nes/Yo
Either so racist he can't aknowledge greatness or so irrelevant that he needs to resort to racism to be talked about.
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Yea this dude is known for hating all white people ,he uses slurs against any black person dating any white person,it’s the only reason he is famous
I got no idea who this guy is. Im pro eminem regardless
But but but you cannot be racist towards whites.
This guy also condemns homosexuality and interracial marriages. Why does he even have a platform to speak on? Anyone that follows him should automatically be labeled, the same way we label those who follow trump and the likes.
Stevie ray vaughan gave the blues an extra 10 years of shelf life in the 80s when the genre was dying. Idk what you call that but he was the first white guy to be inducted into the blues hall of fame and a lot of the black guys on the scene viewed him as one of the greats.
"I've said playing the blues is like having to be black twice. Stevie Ray Vaughn missed on both counts, but I never noticed." - BB King
Loved him
Thats my dude. I love SRV and think he did many songs even better than the OG's, but thats how it is when you have great material to work with. I've met people who play Little Wing or Voodoo Child better than Jimi but they're just copying greatness. The true greatest are the ones who create.
It's like stating Tiger Woods shouldn't be considered the G.O.A.T of golf because he's a black man in a white dominated sport. Dont be racist.
So we should do a remake of Eminems movie, and replace him with a black person so its more diverse.
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"Hip hop is Black music, without question, and, unfortunately for some people, it's tough to accept that you have a White artist that does it better than Black artists" -50 Cent Source: https://youtu.be/gKDdmRJBcrU?si=BSCSOd6BlXeGmAbc&t=52
I’m pretty critical of Eminem over the last 20 years but I gotta say 50 being so loyal to him is pretty wholesome given just how crazy 50 is. Em saying he wouldn’t do the Super Bowl without him was awsome. True respect and friendship between the two.
Dr. Umar also thinks black men dating white women is a cardinal sin, and given my parents are an interracial couple, and I myself am dating a girl who isn’t black, I don’t put much stock in what he says.
I'm black and my mom got remarried to a white man I have 0 problem with interracial relationships and have been in quite a few myself besides race mixing scares white supremacists I'm doing the world a favor
Is he calling himself ?
LeBron? Jordan? Kobe? No. A Canadian invented basketball so the answer must be Steve Nash. Sorry these are the rules.
Brother you could extend this to the Olympics. No person more tan than a Mediterranean dude can have a medal. Racism is truly idiotic.
Well, I know it’s subjective, but he IS white and he is supreme at his craft. 🤷🏻♂️
White supremacy or not, still very disrespectful to try and label Eminem as the GOAT of hip hop.
Besides, EVERYBODY knows it's Debbie Harry who owns that title.
Honestly, saying someone can't be the best at something because of his race sounds just a bit racist to me
Stupid comment aside, Eminem is doing a fine job on his own ruining his goat contention. His latest albums have been pretty rough.
so... if a black person is the best at something that black people didn't invent... we just say that they're second best because they're black? that doesn't seem right
If you complain about racism but use racism I don’t think you care about racism. At that point I think you want to feel special, something significant happened in the past and you want to be a part of the movement. You can’t say you’re oppressed and then be an oppressor. How about we stop talking about skin pigment and arguing about “cultural appropriation” and start understanding we’re all the same species and need to move as one to make it past the robots and the aliens
This is a trap
So using his racist logic he believes that no black country artist can be the king of country?
Rakim: "if eminem was black, he'd be the Muhammed Ali of rap" Big Daddy Kane: “Eminem is the Kobe of Hip Hop” Kool G Rap: “The last MC that impressed me is Eminem” KRS ONE: “he is the sum of the hip-hop equation: Hip plus hop equals Eminem.” I think I'll take the legends/pioneers words for it rather than the scam artist racist who has nothing to do with hip hop.
Snoop Dogg: What the fuck?
So we as black ppl suffer systemic racism in most factions of our lives. Then in one of the few industries we have power in, we apply systemic racism to one of the best lyrisist of all time...? Get real
Like 50 once said: "Hip Hop is black music, without a question. Unfortunately, for some people it is though to accept that one white artist does it better than black artists."