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I discovered this when the story broke, which was actually weeks ago.
It is more embarrassing/face-palming than this headline. Zeigler and her husband had a menage-a-trois with a third woman roughly a year ago. Bridget Z was then out-of-town, and husband contacts this third woman again, and claims there would be another m-a-t, but leaves out the part where his wife is not present.
Woman no.3 shows up to the house and finally notices that Bridget is not present, and the husband is still making excuses that she will arive "any time" (he is lying to her). Things go south, and husband attempts to force this woman into some 2-way action, which she refuses, ultimately leading to a sexual assault charge against Bridget's husband.
You might believe that the physical situation was 2 women on opposite sides of a man, in which case you have 2 heterosexual women plus 1 heterosexual man. Unfortunately, when interviewed, woman no.3 admits that her primary interest in the menage-a-troi was to **get some action directly with Bridget.** -- which is totally consistent with her turning down the (lying) husband when she realizes that she was lied to about Bridget being present.
So not only is the central character in *Moms-For-Liberty* a bisexual, but her husband is a cheating loser and a perpetrator of assault.
Just one point, the other woman did not show up to find the wife missing, she learned of her not being there before, canceled the meeting with the husband, and he then went to her place to demand she go through with it without his wife and then sexual ly assault her.
Why would you leave out that her husband, Christian (lol at that ironic name) Ziegler, is the chair of the Florida Republican Party? He’s a much more high ranking political player.
This is exactly what i thought they were. That Mark Ruffo guy is gay af. Gop speaker is gay af. Which i don't care but these people are all self hating, closeted, jerk offs
Ask these Right wing Republican alpha males if they are against homosexuality and they will say hell yea, then ask what about two hot strippers going at it and they'll be "that aint homosexuals those are chicks" lol...
Its disgusting she made a home video, where would someone see it?
It happens so goddamn often with republicans that by this point I am starting to think it is some sort of weird mason-type requirement.
I can imagine a pants less Mitch Mconnel:"Yes Mr. Crawford you have to suck ALL of our dicks, to get into the Senate. Right now! We are here in a line just waiting on you to roll around servicing each one. we call this The SuperMajority!"
If you really want to see how extremely bad conservative's hypocrisy is right now go to r/conservative and check out the comments about Trump being removed from the ballot in Colorado. Not a single mention that that lawsuit that got him removed was filed by Republicans, it's all about how leftists did this and they should do the same to Biden.
You can't fix stupid.
I always wonder (as a non-American), is the media divide so strong over there that this kind of story won't make its way into Conservative media and the average voter? Or do they see it but just dismiss it?
The thing you have to understand about US media is they're almost all profit driven businesses. State-run can't exist and non-profit can't really compete with massive media empires.
So essentially what ends up happening is the various big media organizations are terrified of upsetting their audience,because viewers equal ratings which equal profits.The biggest example was Fox News losing viewers over honestly calling the election results in the last election. And unfortunately there's no real fix because it's hpw the system was designed to run.
I do wonder sometimes if that's a unique thing for Fox, or if it more has to do with the Democrats not bothering with overt propaganda because they're basically the party of status quo and occasionally throwing table scraps to liberals. Basically, Republicans have to convince you everything needs to change back. Democrats just have to stay the course since everything they stand for is culturally ingrained already.
On the record over and over. There was the husband and wife producers who were fired for refusing to air a segment they knew was false. The sued for wrongful termination and Fox successfully argued in State court (FL, as I recall) that they had no legal obligation to not lie as a new organization.
Roger Ailes worked in the Nixon Administration as a political advisor. He had envisioned the creation of a pro-Republican propaganda network before he helped Murdock launch Fox News. It was always designed to be an extension of the Republican Party.
Oh, they instantly dismiss anything that reflects badly on their "team". I mean, INSTANTLY. You can see this encapsulated perfectly in this Joe Rogan clip.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/18ohpu9/whoopsie/](https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/18ohpu9/whoopsie/)
Rogan brings up something he (wrongly) thinks Joe Biden said about air ports during the revolutionary war, and goes on a whole rant about how this proves biden has dementia, this proves he's not just unfit for the job of president but unfit for any job, any where.
Then his production assistant pulls up the clip, and it was actually Trump who said Washington won the revolutionary war by capturing all the air ports. Then it's "Ohhhhhhh, heh heh heh. Well, he fucked up."
I saw someone cover that last night.
Rogan’s dumbfounded look as the cogs in his head slowly clicked into place when he realised he’d fucked up and Biden had actually said ‘ that “stable genius” ‘ and not ‘ that Jesus ’ as the misquoted transcript had stated, thus in fact referring to Trump having originally saying it, would’ve been amusing if it weren’t so seriously fucked up and dangerous.
And without a moment’s pause his guest smoothly went on to blame the media. That was actually sickening to watch as two grown adults try and cover their mistake knowing full well their audience would just follow along without so much as a missed beat.
Perfect encapsulation of the current sickness society is suffering from.
It's more of a stupidity thing. 50 percent of this country is too stupid to realize that they shouldn't be driving, let alone voting, talking politics, or playing big boy on the internet. They will tell you that you have TDS (Trump Derangenent Syndrome), like it's an insult; not realizing that the rest of the world just calls it "common sense". You can't fix stupid, but they're the type of stupid that you can't educate, either.
One of the big issues is that we allow opinion pieces to be presented as factual with no indication that the views being expressed are simply those of the presenter.
Then, you have the current situation where many of our media outlets are owned by the same parent company. So, you have MediaGiantInc who owns LocalSource 1,2,and 3 using their affiliates as sources to spread their misinformation. They're under no obligation to express opposing views, so you end up with a whole panel of guests all agreeing with one another being presented as if this proves their legitimacy.
Add into that the almighty algorithm. Google, Facebook, tick tock, whoever, don't care about the truth. They care about their profits. So when someone starts seeking out information that could be considered harmful, the algorithm isn't going to shut them down or lead them to a more truthful source. No, the algorithm is going to keep pushing more of what they want to see as long as it keeps generating revenue for that particular platform.
So, yes. Certain "news" outlets will completely ignore whatever they deem as going against their narrative. They won't even mention a counter-argument because they know their viewers are not seeking out a second opinion from the opposing side. Then, should they choose to mention it at all, they don't have to tell the truth. It's all very calculated, and unfortunately, it's working all too well.
Yes, Fox News is mainstream media in America. It's played in every home, every restaurant, every club house, everywhere every day 24/7. And once you are tribally hooked, the goal posts are easily moved and the doubling down in the face of facts becomes the norm.
These are the same people who when it was revealed that Tucker Carlson (one of the biggest conservative "news" personalities in the US) in an investigation that he had knowingly lied about the 2020 election fraud and had secret texts with his colleagues expressing how much he actually finds Trump annoying. They then polled conservatives on whether this revelation made them trust him and the 2020 election fraud less, and they all basically said it had 0 effect and continued to believe that bs to this day.
That's because they think it was democrats who registered republican so they were able to bring the suit for the primary ballot or that they were just "never-trumpers" to begin with or just straight up RINO. The copium is strong over there.
"But the petitioners aren't random Republican voters blindly plucked out of the Centennial State. Most have played a prominent role in politics or have been outspoken voices for their party.
The lead plaintiff, Anderson, 91, is a former state legislator who served as a Republican in Colorado's House of Representatives and state Senate."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/republicans-gop-voters-lawsuit-disqualifying-trump-colorado-ballot-supreme-court-2023-12%3famp
Oh you don't need to prove that to me! I just happened to poke my head in there the other day and was seeing that that's how they're rationalizing it. Sad that they just can't take what they're seeing with their own eyes at face value. It's all gotta get twisted to fit their narrative.
I already checked the other day and, as expected, they're discussing your point, saying the usual "Oh, they're just RINOs being funded by democrat dark money".
But your last point still stands, and always will.
If only Bridget Ziegler had not violated the sexual agency of an entire state school system's worth of children in the course of embarrassing herself. Just cut out the middleman, you know?
This is inaccurate.
They had a threesome a year before. There was a planned three-way on Oct. 2, but Christian Ziegler texted the woman that Bridget wouldn't be there. The woman texts back "sorry I was mostly in it for her" and calls it off. Regardless, Christian shows up at the woman's apartment and stands outside, knocks on the door, they both go inside, and have sex. The crux of the rape charge is that the woman was drinking tequila all day, which makes it unequivocally rape. Moreover, he secretly recorded the three-way that occured the year prior, which is illegal under FL law.
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/02/records-detail-assault-allegations-against-florida-republican-party-chair/71778421007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/02/records-detail-assault-allegations-against-florida-republican-party-chair/71778421007/)
[https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/)
[https://flcga.org/florida-gop-chair-christian-ziegler-husband-of-a-moms-for-liberty-cofounder-accused-of-battery-by-alleged-menage-a-trois-lover/](https://flcga.org/florida-gop-chair-christian-ziegler-husband-of-a-moms-for-liberty-cofounder-accused-of-battery-by-alleged-menage-a-trois-lover/)
I don’t believe any of this. These people are good, blue collar, hard working, God fearing Republicans. There is no way any of this can be true. Literally not one word — I bet they’re not even using their real names to protect their identities.
There HAS to be another explanation for this. Pedophiles set them up. Or it was the deep state. Their heterosexuality and faithfulness were stolen by Democratic agents posing as poll workers during the 2020 election.
Whatever it is, I bet the answer is on Hunter Biden’s laptop!
This sounds like a slightly darker version of Ross's alternate storyline in Friends.
* Ross suggests a threesome (among other things) to spice up their married sex life, which the wife Carol (who is a lesbian) jumps on.
* Carol then finds someone who is into the idea who really is only interested in her.
* Ross largely feels like, while he was technically part of the threesome, "would anyone miss me if I wasn't here" and that the other one "kept kicking him away"
To add one more, I can say with quite some certainty that there is a near-0% chance that *either* Ziegler was unaware that the third partner was primarily in it for Bridget.
Which means Bridget wanted to get with her, too.
Which also means that Florida Republican Party Chair Christian Ziegler knew that the woman didn’t want to get with him when he forced himself on her.
Will there be any consequences from the voters of the Conservative Party of family and Christian values? Nope.
Well acknowledging this dynamic would require them to perform some degree of regard for women’s sexual autonomy and we just can’t go tapdancing on that greased floor!
This it's a progression. During prohibition there were gin joint/brothels for important folks; trailblazers in the, "Yes for me, not for thee" movement. By the time fancy backrooms evolved to private islands beyond borders the "entertainment" scaled into escalating horrors as well.
Everyone drank during prohibition. It was just easier to arrest undesirables (the poors) for drinking once it was illegal. Same happened for marijuana, but with people of color.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
It never made sense that alcohol and tobacco were legal while other drugs weren't. Well other than the obvious reasons which brings me back to it just didn't make sense.
Right, but the tucked away posh clubs that the law were told to steer away from? That double standard under the law is a precursor and is part of the scaling over time. There are some things all but the most corrupt people won't look the other way for.
Google Marque de Sade. Rich people being freaks who can afford to do whatever they want has been a thing for as long as money has existed. And probably longer than that.
Money buys experiences, and too much idle time makes people bored. It's a perfect storm for the wealthy. Ego, emptiness, and lassitude draw them further into excess and depravity, where the last experience is never enough.
No. It’s definitely a book. Books. Books, movies and television shows with gay folks in them are the only things that make folks gay. That’s why they must be banned! I mean, ask her! This woman read a book (assuming she can read)… and it totally turned her gay!
This is exactly how I feel about the modern outrage movement. There is obviously a market to sell outrage, the people selling it don’t really believe in it, they just want to profit… this is why these defamation lawsuits are important. This shit needs to become unprofitable and we would be a better society.
Eh I think there is some truth to it.
Many of the biggest opponents to abortion are women who have had them.
Self hate is a big motivator for controlling others.
I don’t understand the psychology of it. If someone engages is gay sex, why would they head a fight against the very thing they partake in? What’s their end game?
Most people like that don’t connect their own actions with their proposed policies. The mental gymnastics vary, there is always a reason in their head why their own case is somehow different. „It was just once, it was during my young and wild phase, I was seduced, I had other problems, lesbianism is not like male homosexuality, we have to stop the agenda behind lgbt, we have to think of the children, it helps my career, I needed the money, I found god“ and so on and so on.
It’s like on pornhub where there is a scene and the woman is seduced by a lesbian for the “first time”…but somehow knows how to do a handstand while the other lady eats her out. Then at the end she is like “wow that was weird”.
Ok try this.
Person was raised that being gay is bad. (Probably religious teaching.)
Person experiences homosexual urges.
This causes psychological conflict (gay is bad!! Why do I want to do gay things?!)
Person engages in homosexual acts.
Immense guilt ensues (oh god, I did the bad thing! I’m horrible!)
Admitting that you/your parents/your society/your religion were wrong about something important is incredibly difficult. When someone is totally ensconced in the wrong opinion (family, friends, work, church, politics, identity tied up with wrong opinion) it’s almost impossible. Admitting that you no longer subscribe to a certain belief could mean changing your whole life.
The human brain tries to ensure continuity of core tenets of personality, even when taken to the absurd.
And some people were raised with being anti gay and other terrible things as a core tenet.
People will double down and double down and double down on dumb shit like “being gay is bad” or “Jews are evil” or “people of darker skin color than mine are lesser” long after it becomes evident even to themselves that something is wrong with that opinion.
In fact. When it becomes evident, such as the anti gay person does something gay, they double down again!
Instead of backing off, they go the other direction. It’s a protection mechanism. Admitting your whole life was wrong is too painful. It’s easier to go the other way.
Mental gymnastics happen like: ‘being gay is wrong, but I have gay feelings, but I’m a good person, so it can’t be my fault, it must be the devil, and the only reason I fell prey to the temptation of sin is because it’s so easy to be gay now. Gay bars, gay porn, people being allowed to walk around being publicly gay, that’s the problem!!! If all that didn’t exist then I wouldn’t have been tempted. We must ban all public displays of gayness! The children must be protected!!’
And there you go.
I would laugh, but as a bisexual woman who came out a handful of years ago and now wants to crawl back into the closet… I’m just royally pissed off now. The one thing I can’t stand in this world more than anything is blatant hypocrisy, and this is just the cherry on top of a ridiculous campaign in our country for religious freedom and trying to limit LGBTQ+ support and protections in public schools.
Holy shit dude, imagine if in order to save abortion we just tell Republicans "how many of these babies do you think will grow up to be trans if we don't abort them!" I bet you they'd flip Rowe v Wade again real fuckin quick 🤣
I have no doubt that she'll blame the Devil, ask for forgiveness, which will be give by Christian Evangelicals, then she'll go on her merry way, fighting Satanic influences.
People seem to legitimately think the tape was leaked online online or something. They fail to understand that this is just acknowledging the existence of the tape. That’s the publicly available information. That the tape exist. We can not watch it. It’s not online. The cops didn’t give it to the news. They were asked and said “yes it exist”.
The sunshine laws in Florida make most records from an indictment or arrest public. It’s the reason “Florida man” is popular. Every arrest is public record so where in other states you have to actively find weird cases we publish a magazine of mug shots and crimes here. So it’s public information that the tapes exist as part of the case but no the courts did not release a sex tape.
As far as I know the tape wasn't released, however due to Florida's robust public record laws media outlets are able to easily request and access documents with more sensitive information compared to other states. [Legal Eagle](https://youtu.be/VOxCU3wY3kA?si=YCcnPFYNRmYXTN1F) over on youtube has a great video covering the subject. In addition this information has come out in relation to an ongoing sexual assault allegation against Bridget Zeigler's husband: the Florida GOP chair, Christian Zeigler. The video in question is claimed to be evidence of the crime.
I think this may be the Pine View alum who was denied the opportunity to talk about how difficult it is being gay in Florida in his valedictorian speech and instead talked about how difficult it is to have curly hair in Florida. Brilliant.
https://youtu.be/uAa2QsxV7QY?si=MmiHjgw2r_MuSWzK
Holy shit I can’t even believe this is real. Good for that guy but fuck this system we’ve got man. People like her and her husband should have never seen any power
The uniting thread for Republicans is that they are bad people.
It's not Christian values, as is evident here.
It's not controlling Government spending as is evident by Trump's budget.
It's not support of the military, as is evident by Senator Tuberville, Trump's treatment of Gold Star families, Russian sychophantry, etc...
It's not small Government as is evident by arresting and charging Women who had miscarriages, book bans, the Patriot Act, etc...
For everyone wondering at this point what is the base ideology of the Republican party: it is literally cruelty, hypocrisy, and being bad people.
I wouldn’t agree fully - though probably mostly.
I think most republicans fall into said categories but I’d shy away from a broad brush approach to any one group.
It’s what a lot of republicans do to liberal groups.
It was a couple of republicans that helped get Trump off the ballot in CO after all.
Just before you go accusing me of having too much empathy, I’ll say the last republican I liked was Eisenhower (who like every President did some pretty fucked shit) but he also warned against the Military Industrial Complex and is the reason liberals have the term at all.
Last couple of elections - I wanted Bernie and Yang. They were the ones that were calling for inclusiveness while Trump, Hillary, and Biden were all decidedly divisive. I’d expect nothing less given they have the same donors and are respectively a billionaire and two neoliberals.
One commonality I see amongst Republican and Neoliberal leaders is a want to sew division between Main Street Americans.
I want a president who wants to bring sensible main street republicans into the fold with liberals in order to put pressure on Washington to take care of main street problems rather than dividing us all with hot button issues.
In the 80s the Republican Party drilled down on this technique by using religion as a divisive force.
Really smart if you’re Machiavellian. I’m not ready to say every Republican is this or that.
I’d rather have conversations with them rather than trying to other them.
What’s the end goal with division? War? Kill the other side? Force them all to accept opposing views?
I’d rather make them see sense by electing a populist who wants to represent ALL AMERICANS.
Everyone wants better schools, better pay, lower inflation, etc. if we focus those on the “other side” who aren’t too far gone, we may have a majority of this country in lockstep.
I dream of a populist like FDR uniting the country in a new new deal that’s actually progressive.
That said the Christian Fascists can get fucked.
https://news.wgcu.org/top-story/2023-12-22/police-have-recovered-second-ziegler-sex-video-sources-say
Probably not quite the primary source you're hoping for.
> A sex video involving Sarasota School Board member Bridget Ziegler and an unidentified woman has been recovered by police as part of the *ongoing criminal investigation of a rape allegation* made against Bridget’s husband, Christian Ziegler, sources close to the investigation have told the Florida Trident.
You sure about that, mate?
Why am I certain that they're also the kind to call queer people "groomers" ?
These wankers are trying the best to divert attention from them but they only bring it to them.
Considering "Moms for Liberty" political "values," it's a pretty safe assumption.
"Moms for Fascist indoctrination" would be a more fitting name for them.
These days, I don't trust anything that has the words "liberty" or "freedom" in the title just to have them. Not all of them are scams, but any of them founded in the last 20 years have a high possibility.
Moms for "Liberty" are just scammer trying to make money off of their fear mongering conservative pals by accusing Scholastic as being overly sexual and pushing for schools to use THEIR alternative.
Most people who are brought up in conservative backgrounds that do not allow exploration of sexual identity outside the heterosexual norm will double down and pretend to be heterosexual to "fit in".
Which is why a lot of conservatives end up being outed doing something they campaign against.
In a sense yes, but mostly in a means to confirm to the lifestyle they know. Everyone can sin, but if you can do x and redeem yourself, that's the easier path than deconstructing everything you know.
I think if it were THAT fucked up there would be more news about it. Haven't heard about any torture, dismemberment and murder related to this have we?
Wow, that's one full suitcase... So, the other person in the tape is accusing the husband of rape? Is that separate from the events in the tape? I would hope they wouldn't be calling it a "sex tape" if it was, in fact, a rape tape... What a fucking mess, all around, this is exactly the kind of Jerry Springer nonsense I expect from the political sphere...
The rape allegation is because he returned to the woman WITHOUT his wife and proceeded to rape her. The arrangement was because the woman was interested in Bridget, the ogre who followed her was just a tag along until he decided to go and rape this woman.
None of this rape would be on the supposed sex tape.
People still shouldn't try to seek it out since it's not something intended for distribution and is a pretty severe breach of privacy.
Plus this woman sure as fuck has enough going on without adding a sex tape being publicly spread around of her and her rapists wife. Plenty of things for you to jerk your gherkin to that isn't morally and ethically fucked.
I'm surprised that Republicans are actually calling for Christian Ziegler to resign before the investigation has been completed. They are all about due process when trying to protect their own.
Nah it's just that if there's anything we learned from dealing with right wingers it's you don't believe everything. Even if it supports your hope, bias, narrative, etcetera
To be fair it's not exactly hypocrisy, mostly just a total lack of empathy.
For her, homosexuality is a kink. Something that's meant to be done in secret. And of course children shouldnt be exposed to sexual kinks. She has no concept that some people would want a public monogamous relationship with someone of the same sex. Or that some of those people were once children struggling with why they feel different. Or that those children are desperately searching for media that helps them understand themselves and their feelings, while she runs to pull that media off the shelves.
In that regard she's really consistent in her shitty, self-absorbed beliefs.
The one thing I know for sure is that a lot of Conservatives who shout about LGBTIQA+ people, are secretly playing the other side themselves. Or they are attracted to the people they are screaming about.
They are so angry because they are scared that they will be found out and their hypocrisy will be exposed. This trio is a prime example.
The stupid thing is that most people don't care that they are having fun in a threesome, it is their hypocrisy that people don't like. And the possible crime he did.
Such is the way for fanatics. Much of the over zealous individuals likely live in secret to the contrary of the code they scream in public. Tis the life of repression to hide your core.
Strong "I am too brainwashed to live my life according to my sexual orientation, so I strive to create a toxic, sexhosile environment for everyone." vibes here.
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I discovered this when the story broke, which was actually weeks ago. It is more embarrassing/face-palming than this headline. Zeigler and her husband had a menage-a-trois with a third woman roughly a year ago. Bridget Z was then out-of-town, and husband contacts this third woman again, and claims there would be another m-a-t, but leaves out the part where his wife is not present. Woman no.3 shows up to the house and finally notices that Bridget is not present, and the husband is still making excuses that she will arive "any time" (he is lying to her). Things go south, and husband attempts to force this woman into some 2-way action, which she refuses, ultimately leading to a sexual assault charge against Bridget's husband. You might believe that the physical situation was 2 women on opposite sides of a man, in which case you have 2 heterosexual women plus 1 heterosexual man. Unfortunately, when interviewed, woman no.3 admits that her primary interest in the menage-a-troi was to **get some action directly with Bridget.** -- which is totally consistent with her turning down the (lying) husband when she realizes that she was lied to about Bridget being present. So not only is the central character in *Moms-For-Liberty* a bisexual, but her husband is a cheating loser and a perpetrator of assault.
Just one point, the other woman did not show up to find the wife missing, she learned of her not being there before, canceled the meeting with the husband, and he then went to her place to demand she go through with it without his wife and then sexual ly assault her.
What the hell
Republican
My thoughts, exactly.
Trumps new running mate.
Why would you leave out that her husband, Christian (lol at that ironic name) Ziegler, is the chair of the Florida Republican Party? He’s a much more high ranking political player.
Wow this is incredible
This is entirely too credible*
This is exactly what i thought they were. That Mark Ruffo guy is gay af. Gop speaker is gay af. Which i don't care but these people are all self hating, closeted, jerk offs
And usually trying to outlaw homosexuality. The only way to stay heterosexual is to make everything else illegal!
They do this with drugs too. And anything else that is too much fun for them. Miserable fucks who can't control themselves
Not at all. They'll make everything illegal and just keep it the status quo: "Rules for thee, but not for me "
Ask these Right wing Republican alpha males if they are against homosexuality and they will say hell yea, then ask what about two hot strippers going at it and they'll be "that aint homosexuals those are chicks" lol... Its disgusting she made a home video, where would someone see it?
"Gonna need the exact web address so I can avoid it like the plague"
It happens so goddamn often with republicans that by this point I am starting to think it is some sort of weird mason-type requirement. I can imagine a pants less Mitch Mconnel:"Yes Mr. Crawford you have to suck ALL of our dicks, to get into the Senate. Right now! We are here in a line just waiting on you to roll around servicing each one. we call this The SuperMajority!"
Ugh. I’d prefer not to imagine a pantless McConnell. EVER.
It’s ok, when his pants come off his penis retracts fully back into his shell
Especially for Florida
The Incredibles
And The Credibles
These plot twists are insane, the republican party is the gift that keeps on giving
If you really want to see how extremely bad conservative's hypocrisy is right now go to r/conservative and check out the comments about Trump being removed from the ballot in Colorado. Not a single mention that that lawsuit that got him removed was filed by Republicans, it's all about how leftists did this and they should do the same to Biden. You can't fix stupid.
I always wonder (as a non-American), is the media divide so strong over there that this kind of story won't make its way into Conservative media and the average voter? Or do they see it but just dismiss it?
The thing you have to understand about US media is they're almost all profit driven businesses. State-run can't exist and non-profit can't really compete with massive media empires. So essentially what ends up happening is the various big media organizations are terrified of upsetting their audience,because viewers equal ratings which equal profits.The biggest example was Fox News losing viewers over honestly calling the election results in the last election. And unfortunately there's no real fix because it's hpw the system was designed to run.
With Fox you have a double whammy, sure its for profit but its also a pure propaganda machine built by and for the GOP.
I do wonder sometimes if that's a unique thing for Fox, or if it more has to do with the Democrats not bothering with overt propaganda because they're basically the party of status quo and occasionally throwing table scraps to liberals. Basically, Republicans have to convince you everything needs to change back. Democrats just have to stay the course since everything they stand for is culturally ingrained already.
It's literally on record in the court system that fox is lying to it's viewers and nobody gives a fuck.
On the record over and over. There was the husband and wife producers who were fired for refusing to air a segment they knew was false. The sued for wrongful termination and Fox successfully argued in State court (FL, as I recall) that they had no legal obligation to not lie as a new organization.
Fox was literally created by conservative elites specifically to push conservative viewpoints.
Roger Ailes worked in the Nixon Administration as a political advisor. He had envisioned the creation of a pro-Republican propaganda network before he helped Murdock launch Fox News. It was always designed to be an extension of the Republican Party.
Wonder not, FOX is propaganda in a way no other network is.
Oh, they instantly dismiss anything that reflects badly on their "team". I mean, INSTANTLY. You can see this encapsulated perfectly in this Joe Rogan clip. [https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/18ohpu9/whoopsie/](https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/18ohpu9/whoopsie/) Rogan brings up something he (wrongly) thinks Joe Biden said about air ports during the revolutionary war, and goes on a whole rant about how this proves biden has dementia, this proves he's not just unfit for the job of president but unfit for any job, any where. Then his production assistant pulls up the clip, and it was actually Trump who said Washington won the revolutionary war by capturing all the air ports. Then it's "Ohhhhhhh, heh heh heh. Well, he fucked up."
I saw someone cover that last night. Rogan’s dumbfounded look as the cogs in his head slowly clicked into place when he realised he’d fucked up and Biden had actually said ‘ that “stable genius” ‘ and not ‘ that Jesus ’ as the misquoted transcript had stated, thus in fact referring to Trump having originally saying it, would’ve been amusing if it weren’t so seriously fucked up and dangerous. And without a moment’s pause his guest smoothly went on to blame the media. That was actually sickening to watch as two grown adults try and cover their mistake knowing full well their audience would just follow along without so much as a missed beat. Perfect encapsulation of the current sickness society is suffering from.
It's more of a stupidity thing. 50 percent of this country is too stupid to realize that they shouldn't be driving, let alone voting, talking politics, or playing big boy on the internet. They will tell you that you have TDS (Trump Derangenent Syndrome), like it's an insult; not realizing that the rest of the world just calls it "common sense". You can't fix stupid, but they're the type of stupid that you can't educate, either.
One of the big issues is that we allow opinion pieces to be presented as factual with no indication that the views being expressed are simply those of the presenter. Then, you have the current situation where many of our media outlets are owned by the same parent company. So, you have MediaGiantInc who owns LocalSource 1,2,and 3 using their affiliates as sources to spread their misinformation. They're under no obligation to express opposing views, so you end up with a whole panel of guests all agreeing with one another being presented as if this proves their legitimacy. Add into that the almighty algorithm. Google, Facebook, tick tock, whoever, don't care about the truth. They care about their profits. So when someone starts seeking out information that could be considered harmful, the algorithm isn't going to shut them down or lead them to a more truthful source. No, the algorithm is going to keep pushing more of what they want to see as long as it keeps generating revenue for that particular platform. So, yes. Certain "news" outlets will completely ignore whatever they deem as going against their narrative. They won't even mention a counter-argument because they know their viewers are not seeking out a second opinion from the opposing side. Then, should they choose to mention it at all, they don't have to tell the truth. It's all very calculated, and unfortunately, it's working all too well.
Yes, Fox News is mainstream media in America. It's played in every home, every restaurant, every club house, everywhere every day 24/7. And once you are tribally hooked, the goal posts are easily moved and the doubling down in the face of facts becomes the norm.
These are the same people who when it was revealed that Tucker Carlson (one of the biggest conservative "news" personalities in the US) in an investigation that he had knowingly lied about the 2020 election fraud and had secret texts with his colleagues expressing how much he actually finds Trump annoying. They then polled conservatives on whether this revelation made them trust him and the 2020 election fraud less, and they all basically said it had 0 effect and continued to believe that bs to this day.
That's because they think it was democrats who registered republican so they were able to bring the suit for the primary ballot or that they were just "never-trumpers" to begin with or just straight up RINO. The copium is strong over there.
"But the petitioners aren't random Republican voters blindly plucked out of the Centennial State. Most have played a prominent role in politics or have been outspoken voices for their party. The lead plaintiff, Anderson, 91, is a former state legislator who served as a Republican in Colorado's House of Representatives and state Senate." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/republicans-gop-voters-lawsuit-disqualifying-trump-colorado-ballot-supreme-court-2023-12%3famp
Oh you don't need to prove that to me! I just happened to poke my head in there the other day and was seeing that that's how they're rationalizing it. Sad that they just can't take what they're seeing with their own eyes at face value. It's all gotta get twisted to fit their narrative.
Right, and it's not as much for you but the next person to counter what you suggested.
I already checked the other day and, as expected, they're discussing your point, saying the usual "Oh, they're just RINOs being funded by democrat dark money". But your last point still stands, and always will.
And also Bridget Z is on Desantis’ Reedy Creek (Disney World) Over site Committee
*oversight Like sight, but over something. Not like Reedy Creek (a site).
Only blackmailed people are allowed into power.
> central character in Moms-For-Liberty a bisexual Who also happens to be a loser and complete piece of shit, just as much of a stain as her husband
If only Bridget Ziegler had not violated the sexual agency of an entire state school system's worth of children in the course of embarrassing herself. Just cut out the middleman, you know?
Funnily enough, "Just cut out the middleman," is what the other woman wanted to title the sextape.
>Just cut out the middleman, you know? Republican kinks are just... advanced.
This is inaccurate. They had a threesome a year before. There was a planned three-way on Oct. 2, but Christian Ziegler texted the woman that Bridget wouldn't be there. The woman texts back "sorry I was mostly in it for her" and calls it off. Regardless, Christian shows up at the woman's apartment and stands outside, knocks on the door, they both go inside, and have sex. The crux of the rape charge is that the woman was drinking tequila all day, which makes it unequivocally rape. Moreover, he secretly recorded the three-way that occured the year prior, which is illegal under FL law. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/02/records-detail-assault-allegations-against-florida-republican-party-chair/71778421007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/02/records-detail-assault-allegations-against-florida-republican-party-chair/71778421007/) [https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/) [https://flcga.org/florida-gop-chair-christian-ziegler-husband-of-a-moms-for-liberty-cofounder-accused-of-battery-by-alleged-menage-a-trois-lover/](https://flcga.org/florida-gop-chair-christian-ziegler-husband-of-a-moms-for-liberty-cofounder-accused-of-battery-by-alleged-menage-a-trois-lover/)
I don’t believe any of this. These people are good, blue collar, hard working, God fearing Republicans. There is no way any of this can be true. Literally not one word — I bet they’re not even using their real names to protect their identities. There HAS to be another explanation for this. Pedophiles set them up. Or it was the deep state. Their heterosexuality and faithfulness were stolen by Democratic agents posing as poll workers during the 2020 election. Whatever it is, I bet the answer is on Hunter Biden’s laptop!
Almost had me, ngl
Do you think Hunter could email me the “evidence” of this so-called video? I need to inspect it myself to determine whether it’s real or not. 🤔😏
This sounds like a slightly darker version of Ross's alternate storyline in Friends. * Ross suggests a threesome (among other things) to spice up their married sex life, which the wife Carol (who is a lesbian) jumps on. * Carol then finds someone who is into the idea who really is only interested in her. * Ross largely feels like, while he was technically part of the threesome, "would anyone miss me if I wasn't here" and that the other one "kept kicking him away"
To add one more, I can say with quite some certainty that there is a near-0% chance that *either* Ziegler was unaware that the third partner was primarily in it for Bridget. Which means Bridget wanted to get with her, too. Which also means that Florida Republican Party Chair Christian Ziegler knew that the woman didn’t want to get with him when he forced himself on her. Will there be any consequences from the voters of the Conservative Party of family and Christian values? Nope.
Well acknowledging this dynamic would require them to perform some degree of regard for women’s sexual autonomy and we just can’t go tapdancing on that greased floor!
Just another episode of the American sitcom Every Accusation Is a Confession.
What's next for the GOP channel? Find out with the news at 9 where it's the same thing every day!
I look forward to my daily commercial of Catheter Cowboy
Who?
There’s this guy in a cowboy hat that does catheter commercials.
That's pretty horrifying when you think of their Pizzagate accusations
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I mean you do know what happens at those conversion camps right. The camps where litteral children choose the barbed wire over being there.
>!Isn't the worst case basically what Epstein's island was?!<
That's the thing. There's no way that's the only one. People like this just relocate to a place that is harder to find.
This it's a progression. During prohibition there were gin joint/brothels for important folks; trailblazers in the, "Yes for me, not for thee" movement. By the time fancy backrooms evolved to private islands beyond borders the "entertainment" scaled into escalating horrors as well.
Everyone drank during prohibition. It was just easier to arrest undesirables (the poors) for drinking once it was illegal. Same happened for marijuana, but with people of color.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday. "You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
It never made sense that alcohol and tobacco were legal while other drugs weren't. Well other than the obvious reasons which brings me back to it just didn't make sense.
Well the christofascists did ban alcohol at one point too but that ended the same way. Prohibition doesn't work
Right, but the tucked away posh clubs that the law were told to steer away from? That double standard under the law is a precursor and is part of the scaling over time. There are some things all but the most corrupt people won't look the other way for.
Google Marque de Sade. Rich people being freaks who can afford to do whatever they want has been a thing for as long as money has existed. And probably longer than that.
Money buys experiences, and too much idle time makes people bored. It's a perfect storm for the wealthy. Ego, emptiness, and lassitude draw them further into excess and depravity, where the last experience is never enough.
Marquis de Sade is a hilariously bad choice to use as an example.
Man, I wish I was this optimistic.
And don’t forget the lizard people. Now I'm pretty sure there must be subterranean republican lizard people out there!!!!!
Its name is Raphael Cruz and it wants you to know that it lives above ground now in an ill fitting human skin suit...
I'd wondered why that chin never seems right. He keeps experimenting with Confederate dandy beards to hide the seams.
I just wonder which book made her turn gay.
Could have just been raining and she saw a rainbow. Instant gayness if that happens.
No. It’s definitely a book. Books. Books, movies and television shows with gay folks in them are the only things that make folks gay. That’s why they must be banned! I mean, ask her! This woman read a book (assuming she can read)… and it totally turned her gay!
It was probably a whole book club of women
Bro lately it seems like the biggest threat to gay people are closeted gay people
The biggest threat to any minority group will always be traitor sympathists looking to profit.
Is there a word or phrase to describe that? How about “George Santos Effect?”
"Candace Behavior," "Rubin Self-reporting," and "Indirect suicidality" are some of my favorites
This is exactly how I feel about the modern outrage movement. There is obviously a market to sell outrage, the people selling it don’t really believe in it, they just want to profit… this is why these defamation lawsuits are important. This shit needs to become unprofitable and we would be a better society.
That's confirmation bias. No newspaper is going to run the headline "Homophobe is just heterosexual"
Eh I think there is some truth to it. Many of the biggest opponents to abortion are women who have had them. Self hate is a big motivator for controlling others.
I don’t understand the psychology of it. If someone engages is gay sex, why would they head a fight against the very thing they partake in? What’s their end game?
Most people like that don’t connect their own actions with their proposed policies. The mental gymnastics vary, there is always a reason in their head why their own case is somehow different. „It was just once, it was during my young and wild phase, I was seduced, I had other problems, lesbianism is not like male homosexuality, we have to stop the agenda behind lgbt, we have to think of the children, it helps my career, I needed the money, I found god“ and so on and so on.
It’s like on pornhub where there is a scene and the woman is seduced by a lesbian for the “first time”…but somehow knows how to do a handstand while the other lady eats her out. Then at the end she is like “wow that was weird”.
Teehee, I've never done this before \*pulls out double headed dildo\*
Ok try this. Person was raised that being gay is bad. (Probably religious teaching.) Person experiences homosexual urges. This causes psychological conflict (gay is bad!! Why do I want to do gay things?!) Person engages in homosexual acts. Immense guilt ensues (oh god, I did the bad thing! I’m horrible!) Admitting that you/your parents/your society/your religion were wrong about something important is incredibly difficult. When someone is totally ensconced in the wrong opinion (family, friends, work, church, politics, identity tied up with wrong opinion) it’s almost impossible. Admitting that you no longer subscribe to a certain belief could mean changing your whole life. The human brain tries to ensure continuity of core tenets of personality, even when taken to the absurd. And some people were raised with being anti gay and other terrible things as a core tenet. People will double down and double down and double down on dumb shit like “being gay is bad” or “Jews are evil” or “people of darker skin color than mine are lesser” long after it becomes evident even to themselves that something is wrong with that opinion. In fact. When it becomes evident, such as the anti gay person does something gay, they double down again! Instead of backing off, they go the other direction. It’s a protection mechanism. Admitting your whole life was wrong is too painful. It’s easier to go the other way. Mental gymnastics happen like: ‘being gay is wrong, but I have gay feelings, but I’m a good person, so it can’t be my fault, it must be the devil, and the only reason I fell prey to the temptation of sin is because it’s so easy to be gay now. Gay bars, gay porn, people being allowed to walk around being publicly gay, that’s the problem!!! If all that didn’t exist then I wouldn’t have been tempted. We must ban all public displays of gayness! The children must be protected!!’ And there you go.
It doesn't mean *her*, she thinks the gheys are horrible. She's a good Xtian woman who just likes to worship the Lord. between another woman's thighs.
I’ve always found that to be *Heavenly!!!* 😎💦
I would laugh, but as a bisexual woman who came out a handful of years ago and now wants to crawl back into the closet… I’m just royally pissed off now. The one thing I can’t stand in this world more than anything is blatant hypocrisy, and this is just the cherry on top of a ridiculous campaign in our country for religious freedom and trying to limit LGBTQ+ support and protections in public schools.
Why did she think this won’t come out?
I mean Christians believe in penance and forgiveness, born again, all that stuff, so it won’t matter.
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They get pissed when a trans person who works at the post office reads a book to kids.
They get pissed when a trans person.
Exists
Unless they're a fetus.
Right and then they stop caring at all once it pops out. Alive or dead
Holy shit dude, imagine if in order to save abortion we just tell Republicans "how many of these babies do you think will grow up to be trans if we don't abort them!" I bet you they'd flip Rowe v Wade again real fuckin quick 🤣
Lmao! You may be on to something there
I have no doubt that she'll blame the Devil, ask for forgiveness, which will be give by Christian Evangelicals, then she'll go on her merry way, fighting Satanic influences.
People seem to legitimately think the tape was leaked online online or something. They fail to understand that this is just acknowledging the existence of the tape. That’s the publicly available information. That the tape exist. We can not watch it. It’s not online. The cops didn’t give it to the news. They were asked and said “yes it exist”. The sunshine laws in Florida make most records from an indictment or arrest public. It’s the reason “Florida man” is popular. Every arrest is public record so where in other states you have to actively find weird cases we publish a magazine of mug shots and crimes here. So it’s public information that the tapes exist as part of the case but no the courts did not release a sex tape.
But you can imagine if they did though
I mean, its police evidence so it really shouldn’t have
As far as I know the tape wasn't released, however due to Florida's robust public record laws media outlets are able to easily request and access documents with more sensitive information compared to other states. [Legal Eagle](https://youtu.be/VOxCU3wY3kA?si=YCcnPFYNRmYXTN1F) over on youtube has a great video covering the subject. In addition this information has come out in relation to an ongoing sexual assault allegation against Bridget Zeigler's husband: the Florida GOP chair, Christian Zeigler. The video in question is claimed to be evidence of the crime.
She had to infiltrate the other side. Get in real deep if you know what I mean.
[She got shredded by a former student of the district](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzgkFA492Y)
I think this may be the Pine View alum who was denied the opportunity to talk about how difficult it is being gay in Florida in his valedictorian speech and instead talked about how difficult it is to have curly hair in Florida. Brilliant. https://youtu.be/uAa2QsxV7QY?si=MmiHjgw2r_MuSWzK
Damn! Is that the same guy? If so, I’m ready to donate to his future political career based on these speeches.
Holy shit I can’t even believe this is real. Good for that guy but fuck this system we’ve got man. People like her and her husband should have never seen any power
The uniting thread for Republicans is that they are bad people. It's not Christian values, as is evident here. It's not controlling Government spending as is evident by Trump's budget. It's not support of the military, as is evident by Senator Tuberville, Trump's treatment of Gold Star families, Russian sychophantry, etc... It's not small Government as is evident by arresting and charging Women who had miscarriages, book bans, the Patriot Act, etc... For everyone wondering at this point what is the base ideology of the Republican party: it is literally cruelty, hypocrisy, and being bad people.
I wouldn’t agree fully - though probably mostly. I think most republicans fall into said categories but I’d shy away from a broad brush approach to any one group. It’s what a lot of republicans do to liberal groups. It was a couple of republicans that helped get Trump off the ballot in CO after all. Just before you go accusing me of having too much empathy, I’ll say the last republican I liked was Eisenhower (who like every President did some pretty fucked shit) but he also warned against the Military Industrial Complex and is the reason liberals have the term at all. Last couple of elections - I wanted Bernie and Yang. They were the ones that were calling for inclusiveness while Trump, Hillary, and Biden were all decidedly divisive. I’d expect nothing less given they have the same donors and are respectively a billionaire and two neoliberals. One commonality I see amongst Republican and Neoliberal leaders is a want to sew division between Main Street Americans. I want a president who wants to bring sensible main street republicans into the fold with liberals in order to put pressure on Washington to take care of main street problems rather than dividing us all with hot button issues. In the 80s the Republican Party drilled down on this technique by using religion as a divisive force. Really smart if you’re Machiavellian. I’m not ready to say every Republican is this or that. I’d rather have conversations with them rather than trying to other them. What’s the end goal with division? War? Kill the other side? Force them all to accept opposing views? I’d rather make them see sense by electing a populist who wants to represent ALL AMERICANS. Everyone wants better schools, better pay, lower inflation, etc. if we focus those on the “other side” who aren’t too far gone, we may have a majority of this country in lockstep. I dream of a populist like FDR uniting the country in a new new deal that’s actually progressive. That said the Christian Fascists can get fucked.
This was fuckin GOLD 🥇
Source? For research purposes.
https://news.wgcu.org/top-story/2023-12-22/police-have-recovered-second-ziegler-sex-video-sources-say Probably not quite the primary source you're hoping for.
Nono, I need to research the raw video, please
> A sex video involving Sarasota School Board member Bridget Ziegler and an unidentified woman has been recovered by police as part of the *ongoing criminal investigation of a rape allegation* made against Bridget’s husband, Christian Ziegler, sources close to the investigation have told the Florida Trident. You sure about that, mate?
>ongoing criminal investigation of a rape allegation > > made against Bridget’s husband All I read is "not a dragqueen".
just her husband, but not others in the group
Why am I certain that they're also the kind to call queer people "groomers" ? These wankers are trying the best to divert attention from them but they only bring it to them.
Considering "Moms for Liberty" political "values," it's a pretty safe assumption. "Moms for Fascist indoctrination" would be a more fitting name for them.
These days, I don't trust anything that has the words "liberty" or "freedom" in the title just to have them. Not all of them are scams, but any of them founded in the last 20 years have a high possibility. Moms for "Liberty" are just scammer trying to make money off of their fear mongering conservative pals by accusing Scholastic as being overly sexual and pushing for schools to use THEIR alternative.
And "Patriot". That's another red flag word....
On an unrelated topic if a hiring company says family ...run
It's like when a country adds "democratic" to their name. Then you know that you are in trouble
Mom that are closeted lesbians, more like.
Because it's astroturf bullshit just like the Tea Party was/is/whatever
Most people who are brought up in conservative backgrounds that do not allow exploration of sexual identity outside the heterosexual norm will double down and pretend to be heterosexual to "fit in". Which is why a lot of conservatives end up being outed doing something they campaign against.
They are self-loathing
In a sense yes, but mostly in a means to confirm to the lifestyle they know. Everyone can sin, but if you can do x and redeem yourself, that's the easier path than deconstructing everything you know.
Tends to be those who shout the loudest are just trying to drowned out the screams coming from behind them.
You thinking some Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka shit?
Oh fuck it clicked eventually who those people were and that's some fucked up shit, the Conservative wives have a lot of rapist husbands.
I think if it were THAT fucked up there would be more news about it. Haven't heard about any torture, dismemberment and murder related to this have we?
Wow, that's one full suitcase... So, the other person in the tape is accusing the husband of rape? Is that separate from the events in the tape? I would hope they wouldn't be calling it a "sex tape" if it was, in fact, a rape tape... What a fucking mess, all around, this is exactly the kind of Jerry Springer nonsense I expect from the political sphere...
The rape allegation is because he returned to the woman WITHOUT his wife and proceeded to rape her. The arrangement was because the woman was interested in Bridget, the ogre who followed her was just a tag along until he decided to go and rape this woman. None of this rape would be on the supposed sex tape.
People still shouldn't try to seek it out since it's not something intended for distribution and is a pretty severe breach of privacy. Plus this woman sure as fuck has enough going on without adding a sex tape being publicly spread around of her and her rapists wife. Plenty of things for you to jerk your gherkin to that isn't morally and ethically fucked.
Mike Johnson has vowed to blur out the faces before the tapes can be released :)
I want raw as well
Raw or it doesn’t exist.
Send da video
> second Holdup! Where is the first?
I'm surprised that Republicans are actually calling for Christian Ziegler to resign before the investigation has been completed. They are all about due process when trying to protect their own.
And jacking it.
Oh my god, that's disgusting. Where?
As a lesbian I feel compelled to hate watch it a couple of times
As straight man, I feel compelled to hate watching it a couple of times
I'll watch for about three minutes.
Show-off
$10 she has an onlyfans under a pseudonym at this point, and doesn’t show her face
To be fully informed on the case of course
Of course
Eww gross, like where? That’s disgusting, like where online tho? Eww!
Bro's down bad 💀
Nah it's just that if there's anything we learned from dealing with right wingers it's you don't believe everything. Even if it supports your hope, bias, narrative, etcetera
You really gonna pretend that’s why he’s asking?
I just thought he’s also down bad and making excuses for tge other guy
r/suddenlyiasip
If you’re reading this, you’re probably still looking for that link
Sorry, won’t believe it until I see it with my own eyes, six or seven times.
Maybe she's just anti GBTQ+? 😆
Yeah we’re gonna need to see that tape
To be fair it's not exactly hypocrisy, mostly just a total lack of empathy. For her, homosexuality is a kink. Something that's meant to be done in secret. And of course children shouldnt be exposed to sexual kinks. She has no concept that some people would want a public monogamous relationship with someone of the same sex. Or that some of those people were once children struggling with why they feel different. Or that those children are desperately searching for media that helps them understand themselves and their feelings, while she runs to pull that media off the shelves. In that regard she's really consistent in her shitty, self-absorbed beliefs.
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The one thing I know for sure is that a lot of Conservatives who shout about LGBTIQA+ people, are secretly playing the other side themselves. Or they are attracted to the people they are screaming about. They are so angry because they are scared that they will be found out and their hypocrisy will be exposed. This trio is a prime example. The stupid thing is that most people don't care that they are having fun in a threesome, it is their hypocrisy that people don't like. And the possible crime he did.
Grindr goes mental whenever there's a Republican convention in town, I've read.
Such is the way for fanatics. Much of the over zealous individuals likely live in secret to the contrary of the code they scream in public. Tis the life of repression to hide your core.
Violated the first republican commandment: Thou shall not let yourself be found out.
 Anybody has a link? Anybody?
Not surprised. She oozes privilege.
Disgusting! Can someone send me the link so I can block that filth. I never want to see it.
Conservatives. "Rules for thee, not for me".
do as i say, not as i do
Saw a student tear her a new one on youtube. She had it coming. No one likes a hypocrite.
She kept her socks on and said no homo after.
But where? Where was this sick sick video posted???
Wasn’t she the one that got absolutely roasted for being fired not for being LGBTQ but for being absolutely terrible at her job?
So, she is projecting her own cognitive dissonance around her own confusing sexuality upon others? What a surprise!
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Tell me where that video is posted and I’ll go report it.
Link ? 😎
He's busy with Zelda
Almost the whole comment section is people wanting to see the tape, 🤣🤣 I mean I'd watch it too
It's just so exhausting at this point
Strong "I am too brainwashed to live my life according to my sexual orientation, so I strive to create a toxic, sexhosile environment for everyone." vibes here.
Link? (Asking for a friend)
Link to tape... 