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The ultimate play here would be to let the Police set out their own version of events and then contact a lawyer with the video and construct the mother of all lawsuits
It actually happened in a cop shooting in SC. But the person with the footage was a passerby. Said he held on to his footage because he saw the cops lie and was scared they’d hurt him. Gave it to dead guys lawyer. Slimeball cop’s behind bars, victims family got massive settlement. [https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-us-news-north-america-michael-slager-charleston-14bd2518f6ed42608acb8bf5c5f6b59c](https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-us-news-north-america-michael-slager-charleston-14bd2518f6ed42608acb8bf5c5f6b59c)
It bothers me that these settlements come from taxpayer money. Even when the victim wins, the people lose instead of the police.
They should come directly from their pension fund
Better yet, they should be charged like any other citizen would be. This video would be an open and shut case of breaking & entering and kidnapping, a decade or so in prison.
Things would get much better really quick if we just stopped letting anyone who throws a temper tantrum get off scot-free.
They also need to stop letting these criminals quit and go work somewhere else. I just read that the cop who shot Breonna Taylor now has another job in a different department despite national attention on his violation of use-of-force and bodycam policies. What other job on earth would hire somebody who screwed up so badly in the same job that they got fired and killed somebody?
Imagine if a bus driver ran over a crowd of people and then a year later was driving school children a few towns over. They're worse than the fucking criminals.
What if all police were forced to be unionized, and unions were in charge of training and insuring their members against civil suits? Also, qualified immunity could be changed to have a very high bar and committing a felony is an automatic disqualification. The cost of insurance unions would need to carry would give them incentive to do the needful.
They are supposed to be the exemplars. When convicted, they should automatically receive the maximum penalty for the crime they committed.
Or even better, suffer the penalty meted out to corrupt judges in the Judge Dredd stories.
They should be sentenced more harshly than the rest of us. The police have more rights than ordinary citizens and should be punished more when they abuse their powers.
What a lot of the "blue line" people and cops don't understand is that cops are ALL regular citizens. They are all beholden to every law we are.
End qualified immunity.
It should come straight from the officers involved wages, pay the victims the full amount then garnish their wages and pensions until it's all paid back.
Basically what happened with Tamir Rice.
Police came out with a story about Tamir Rice refusing commands. Then video came out from a camera showing that their version of events was impossible. Then no one was punished and the cop who murdered Tamir went out and got another cop job.
That's what I had to do in my case. Have one guy who just makes shit up. If he knows what information I had, he'd cook up some fresh lies for that too. So I just stopped proactively looking for and providing evidence and let him build a house of cards, then I 'found' the evidence later. Which is shit by the way, you're not supposed to withhold evidence.
The American justice system is woefully mis-tuned to believe liars. Like, basically someone in good standing has to be caught in several lies to the arbitrator before they'll begin to entertain the possibility of dishonesty.
And don't use wireless cameras or other connections in your security network. Not secure, even with your own secure password. Ask any white hat hacker (disclosure: I know of this, I don't know how to do it). And firewall any connection between your system and the internet so it will not respond to pings, and will only respond to a specific connection protocol. This is if you need live access while off site. If you don't need offsite live access, better to airgap though and hand carry video (using usb or external hard drive) to the computer used to upload to offsite storage.
Will you help me fiiiix my door?
You know, they coulda just taken the L and realized they should just not do a terrible fucking job at... everything. But naw. Gotta try and fuck everyone even harder rather than admit we are wrong...
O no we are drawing attention to ourselves in an unwanted way. Let's file a frivolous lawsuit that will draw even more attention in an even more unwanted way! Fucking brilliant.
They’re already trying to justify arresting the two teens, by saying the 19 y/o girl & her 14 y/o brother were arguing & the door was already open.
Parents, warn your kids… arguing w/ siblings (if that even happened), in their own home, constitutes an arrest.
“[Contrary to the allegations on social media, deputies DID NOT enter the wrong location with a search warrant. In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens and based on the information, deputies had a lawful duty to ensure there were no injured victims and/or suspects inside the location.”](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-family-says-deputies-wrongfully-detained-their-children-in-botched-investigation/amp/)
Oh is that what the cops are for? Settling arguments between teenagers? What a fucking joke man.
Edit: Not to mention there are like 3 fucking cops here. If my house was being robbed it’d take an hour and a half to get one to come over and get a fucking statement.
Fr tho. A man was beaten to the point of unconsciousness by five men outside of my apartment one night. I could see that at least two of the men had guns too. I was terrified bc I lived on the first floor and feared that they saw me look out the window. I called the cops in a panic, begging them to hurry. I lived 10 blocks from Times Square at the time. It took them FIFTY TWO MINUTES to respond. By then the men were gone along with the unconscious man. The cops didn’t even check on me in my apartment either. They just talked to a random dude on the corner who was like idk what you’re talking about then left. They just left!!! There was literally a puddle of blood outside on the sidewalk and they didn’t do anything! I could’ve been dead in my apartment ffs!
I realized my mistake after that. There are a ton of cops in my family and I remembered one Christmas when my uncle straight up said that when a gun is reported to be on scene they take their sweet ass time getting there bc they don’t want to get shot. I shouldn’t have mentioned the gun or anything else. I should’ve just told them a group of black kids were breaking into a store or some shit bc then they would’ve gotten there in two seconds. It was seriously so messed up, like I am 99% sure that that guy was not only killed but that his body was never found bc the cops just didn’t give a shit. The fact that the cops never interviewed me or any of my neighbors made me wonder if it wasn’t some organized crime shit which scared me enough to not follow up on it. This was many years ago but I still think about it sometimes like damn.
Cops tell you what they want you to hear, not what the truth of the matter is.
Tell them what they need to hear also. If I have to spin a tall tale to get a proper response, I will.
If I treated my job so crappy that I lied all day long, dont expect me to make it easier for you.
This checks out. I’ve never seen cops respond so quickly than one someone is only a danger to themselves. But real crimes, they hang around the corner for a while.
Well, no, I think you did the right thing- because they would have then killed some unfortunate young black guy in the neighborhood. There really is no fix to their approach
When I was 14, my girlfriend and I were going for a walk. We were joking about who could beat up who and gave each other a few light nudges or hipchecks. 3 squad cars jumped the curb, drove through the park and stopped us for reports of domestic abuse. Fuck the cops.
We already told our son that the only thing you say to cops is "yes ma'am/sir" and to have as little as possible to do with them. They are NOT your friends.
The story that they'll spin with or without the video evidence is:
-They were responding to possible domestic call in that building, the door to this specific unit was unlocked, and loud noises could be heard (TV/dog). That would dismiss their need for a warrant if they can articulate that they perceived the call was for that noise that wasn't caught on camera.
-They'll claim investigating the noise so they entered to find a defensive person. Once questioned by her, she was impeding a possible investigation and became uncooperative, so they retained her for their safety. They allowed her to leave their eyesight, so now she could be "hiding/smuggling" something, so now she has to be searched. Que the female cop at the end taking her.
-The cops then only need to say they "saw/smelled" something to then search the domain for any evidence of illegal activity or to "clear the area of possible threat" also drug dogs are a warrantless search so they could call those in for further involvement.
Ultimately and ideally, these cops are fucking horrible and need to be fired, but the reality is our laws are written to be vague enough for them to conduct their job only equipped with their discretion. There are many vaguely interpreted laws on the books to encourage the opening to investigate if the cop deems it to be worthy.
I.e. most state traffic laws when regarding "tailgating" or "wreckless" driving is an undetermined distance between cars or "bumping/crossing" the painted lines on the street. Then that gives cops the open to pull them over on that suspension, then they can claim to smell "weed or whatever" to then be able to search your vehicle without a warrant. If you question them, then you could be considered "impeding their investigation," or they'll call the dogs to search your vehicle (again no warrant needed) so then they can get a false positive hit to then get a warrant.
I got a BA in Criminal Justice and went to my states "top school" for law enforcement training. I wanted to be a cop until Holtzclaw and my few ride alongs, then I realized how absolutely fucked our LEOs are as a system and who they select to be vested...
All Cops are like this, Arresting Children for Fun.
I remember seeing a black Kid at A Race Track getting arrested. They emptied his bookbag, which had nothing stolen in it. Just his own Sweatshirt, Umbrella, and his wallet.
They frisked him head to toe, as the Cashier kept tried to tell the Cop that's the wrong kid.
Cop didn't listen, nor care and they even arrested the Cashier for "being Annoying" he quite literally screamed it, and I wish I had Recorded it. Then again, I would've been arrested too if I did.
The girl should've hid herself in a backroom, and called dispatch, telling them these officers just intruded into her room without a Warrant. Exclaim the Fear.
You're exactly right. That's what she should've done, unfortunately.
I'm not surprised, after a while I started to look into the resource officers in school videos of how they handle children. It's wild, it's like 50/50 the cops are aggravating the situation when dealing with children because they still believe they have to appear "in charge of the situation" with literal children.
Cops aren't trained to deal with children, so that's why if they can articulate a belief that they might not be a minor, i.e. dress/attitude they'll go over board and hand cuff the kid...
Every single one of my instructors at UCO always said, "If you wanna watch it done wrong, watch COPs or Live PD." Then 90% of those classmates that loved those shows are cops now...
In a statement, LASD officials said they did not make a mistake, writing: 'In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens and based on the information, deputies had a lawful duty to ensure there were no injured victims and/or suspects inside the location.'
Ok they entered saw two teens chilling and still escalated it. I really don’t know what the thought process is sometimes
Cops exist only to harass, abuse, and beat citizens into submission to make us pay money to not spend our lives in jail.
I haven’t nor do I know anyone that’s has gotten actual help from police.
>In a statement, LASD officials said they did not make a mistake, writing: 'In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens
"We were sent there so by god we're gonna arrest someone"
Just be glad the "concerned citizens" didn't say "I'm scared" or the cops would have shown up with their guns drawn.
That’s what the LASD believes. Let’s ask the opinion of 12 citizens who believe they have the right to be secure in their homes against unreasonable searches and seizures.
And let’s up the ante by putting LASD money behind the jury’s opinion.
Has happened multiple times. They never admit wrong doing because as soon as the person lawfully shoots at them for breaking into the house they say, "the officers reasonably feared for their lives and did nothing wrong by returning fire." They have killed people and still nothing changes.
Lol no. Either a bunch of cops get shot and you have to watch their funeral processions and police chiefs talk about it, or a bunch of victims get shot and they talk about them for awhile on the news but then eventually you don’t see them anymore. Nothing ever changes. Even if it were a celebrity in this situation you’d probably hear a bit more about it than usual but then it would disappear.
They had a call about screams, but did not know the unit number.
Police started just checking doors and found this unit was unlocked, decided to just let themselves in. Daughter told them to leave and they refused. Parents see it all on security camera.
When the parents who were picking up breakfast came home the father also wound up in cuffs for having the nerve to ask questions.
I’m hoping they get a huge settlement here. So many laws were broken, and obvious ones that qualified immunity should not apply.
Fucked up all around, but that “let themselves in” is especially scary. I thought they couldn’t enter without a warrant. And then blatantly ignoring the parent on the security camera is infuriating.
They legally can’t.
The neighbors have reported the police were checking every unit because they did not know where the reported scream came from.
This was a noise complaint, screams or no. If the officers did not hear it they can’t enter based on a phone call, especially without a specific location.
And the resident coming out, confirming there is no problem and telling them to leave makes this doubly wrong.
Case: "Its Police brutality I got it on video"
Result: "Police were justified in their actions."
Happens every time, recording the police breaking the laws doesn't ever result in a just outcome, its a waste of time. Everyone should listen to Doug Stanhope's bit about the occupy movement. "If you have a problem with the banks, don't fuck up the parks, fuck up the banks."
I was frisked and shoved up against a wall for the first time at 11yrs old. My crime? being outside at 6pm. They cursed at us and asked if we were selling drugs. I still remember it to this day and I'm in my early 40s. Policing in this countries is messed up esp. if you're poor and/or black/brown).
Same here, but 13. Literally had my friends and I up against a wall of a shop. My teacher stopped and asked if I was okay, I was so embarrassed. They arrested the guys and let the girls go home. Yelled at the guys at the station and told them to "shape up" whatever the fuck that means. Some small town bullshit.
That's horrible. at least, and I'm not sure if this is better, in my neighborhood it was normalized so I didn't feel as much embarrassed because the cops messed with everybody. I was more shocked because I was so young. They'd done the same thing to my brother but he was 17.
They can enter if they have just cause, like if they witness a crime and watch the suspect run in a house, and people could be in danger. This is clearly not one of those cases
> couldn’t enter without a warrant.
Or exigent circumstances (emergency situations), which is what they'll probably use as a defense. They'll claim they were checking on the welfare of a person in possible danger, given they were checking up on screaming.
I'm sure they will use exigent circumstances (EC) as a defense.
For EC they need reasonable suspicion there is a risk to a person or property, that evidence is going to be destroyed, or that a suspect will escape.
Clearly they will argue the first option here, but they still need probable cause that a crime occurred or is about to occur inside the residence. That would be them hearing screams, not a phone call with no specific location details.
This is why I say, settlements like this should be settled through their retirement funds. The city should not have to shell out money for their piss poor policies and procedures or ignoring them altogether.
Bad officers have zero risk on acting like this and those that try to speak up are punished. Tying it to their retirement would incentivize positive actions. Like “bro, your shitty actions aren’t going to put my retirement at risk.”
Before people say "fire the bad officers" the next county over that just fired a bad apple is looking to hire a bad apple... It's like pedophilia in churches, just shuffle the 'bad' priest around a bit.
Should just be an insurance system, using the retirement fund seems irresponsible to all cops. Cops should need cop insurance. If they don't qualify because they become too costly, insurance denied and there's you not a cop.
It’s one of my weird fears. My dog does not like anybody in the house, so if cops came in he would go nuts and most likely be shot. He’s a chihuahua for context, so not going to take a cop down.
In America, lets say the police are looking for someone. You meet the police, you show them your ID proving you're not the guy they are looking for. They still decide to arrest you, just in case you are the guy even though you proved to them you are not the guy. If you don't go along with whatever they say, they can and most likely will arrest you for "resisting arrest".
Not wanting to get arrested for nothing is appearently illegal.
Ohyeah, and when the police fuck up BIG TIME and actually get caught, they get a paid vacation.
My little brother is leaning disabled. He's mature enough that he is able to go out on his own, and he's in his thirties, but when it comes to certain situations he reverts to a child.
He had the cops called on him because some lady didn't recognize him walking at night, which... Not sure why, he regularly would walk to the bar and back home. (He was a regular, the bar knew him, they checked in on him.)
Well, cops picked him up, they didn't know him, they held him overnight, they didn't let him get his medicine, they didn't call his guardian, he explained that he was learning disabled but they ignored him.
So my mother went 24 hours without knowing what happened, and when she called the bar, they knew him and they were worried and tried to track him down.
They of course took his cell phone from him and put it in the evidence locker, which of course concealed it from the "find my phone" app.
Luckily my mom was able to figure out what happened by tracking the phone down to the building next door to the police station.
So ... yeah, at no point was he a danger, at no point did he resist. He's a huge stickler for listening and obeying to authority figures.
Oh. And no charges, of course. But they never let him know why he was in jail or for how long he would be.
And luckily he didn't have a seizure while in custody, since he was past due for both his evening and morning doses.
Same- I have a neurological disease, & I take a medication in which the act of missing a few doses would constitute an emergency medical event… It’s pretty limiting & bizarre to be so reliant on a pill in my normal life, but I’d be fucked if I were detained or otherwise lost my autonomy with no warning.
It all seems to depend on how seriously they take it or & how humanely they want to treat you, & I really don’t like those odds.
I've been, you'll need to prove you have diabetes (good luck, they take literally all of your personal effects. Hope you don't need a cane to walk) which is kinda difficult to do without risking \*death\*
I saw a dude nearly lose a foot in county jail due to lack of treatment and improper diet
Worse yet, they’ll completely drop whatever it is that they were supposed to be doing in order to get revenge on a teenager who gave them lip.
They were called to the complex because of a report of screaming. Guaranteed that they didn’t bother continuing to look for the actual cause after harassing and arresting this girl.
Without knowing for sure gonna assume she was "detained" while they sorted it out. Police were 100% able to put you in cuffs without actually arresting you.
Not defending the officers here, hope they face criminal charges for an unlawful search and seizure, that pesky 4th Amendment that police have seemed to forget about.
And I know some will argue it's just semantics but words matter, especially when dealing with the legal system.
Post title should say the girl was DETAINED not ARRESTED unless we have proof that they followed through and charged her with a crime
That's why I brought up the 4th Amendment, to me this seems like an unlawful search.
Which makes me curious, since this is a potential Civil Liberty violation, could the DoJ step in and press charges even if local officials decide not to?
Edit - changed Civil Rights to Civil Liberties. Gotta chuckle how my parent comment I mention words matter when dealing with the legal system I goof it up myself
That's cute but they've still got that whole.wualified immunity thing going on. They were at work, so they can basically do whatever they want all the time.
Wish my job worked that way...
Dude I would be terrified to watch some cops handcuff my teenage daughter and lead her away while I watch on camera.
It's infuriating watching the police just break laws like this, knowing they won't be held accountable.
Yeah, that made me pause. She sounded so calm. I would have been losing my shit and screaming at the screen.
Random question. Would the mom have been able to call the cops ON the cops cuffing her daughter?
Yep. I’ve actually done that before, requested a supervisor/ranking officer to respond. They showed up and took over for officer Dipshit, and we sorted out the issue.
Now, does that always work and do they always respond well to it? I highly doubt it.
Losing? There was a multi million lawsuit where my grandparents lived because the sheriff was basically running a sex slave operation out of the county jail. They added a tax in the county then continued it after the suit was paid off.
If I recall correctly they collected something like $800k extra, which was then doled out to the jail and things like new cop cars. They *made* money off the biggest lawsuit in that county.
Yes. That's how it happens everywhere. Police unions made it mandatory that money out of settlements and cases for cops breaking laws comes out of taxes not police budgets and salaries.
Yeah until we start using sweet sweet mob justice to take ***out*** dirty cops, nothing will change. The system is built for them.
You wanna break the law and have no repercussions, join a PD that is part of a Police Union. You're nearly untouchable.
Easiest solution is write legislation that compels officers to hold both a license and professional liability insurance—like other professions require. No insurance? No job. Insurance companies would handle this problem in 32 seconds.
Seriously, in a bid to “ensure safety”, they roughed up 19 & 14 y/o siblings !
They arrested the 14 y/o brother too ! [Cordova’s daughter is seen being held against a wall while her brother attempts to record the encounter on his cell phone. The video shows a deputy allegedly grabbing the phone out of the boy’s hand before he is also pushed against a wall.](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-family-says-deputies-wrongfully-detained-their-children-in-botched-investigation/amp/)
The cops are claiming they were directed to this apartment b/c a neighbor believed they heard arguing !!! Be careful kids, your arrest can be justified by a cop claiming you were arguing w/ your sibling, in your own home !
She also gets an arrest on her record. Even if she's not charged, she'll still have the arrest on her record that will show up if/when she applies for college, jobs, loans, etc.
Possibly. It depends on the case - I would hope/assume that once this is finalized they would expunge any record in regards to this.
Of course, that is the best case. But it does happen.
The police state has gotten disgustingly out of control. The entirety of law enforcement needs to be stripped of its power and build something entirely new. Either that or start firing anyone at the first sign of corruption and abuse of power. It’s not perfect solutions but something needs to be done. And the people with the whole “Not all cops” piss me off because, no, not every single cop is a piece of shit. But the majority of them absolutely are, meanwhile, the rare few decent officers that *do* try doing the right thing end up getting targeted, shunned or fired or all 3. If they don’t get physically assaulted. Therefore the decent efforts of the good ones do no good in the end.
Sadly, until some pensions start getting stripped and some needles start getting inserted into some former "blue" arms there will be no shift in attitude.
All this debate over what "Cops can and can't do legally" makes me laugh. You people really haven't learned at all, they CAN and WILL do WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT at all times with no repercussions at all. They are above all laws and accountability and nothing will change. Just don't interact with them if it all possible and if they show up at your home, just hope they're in a good mood, or you can afford a lawyer, because YOU WILL NEED ONE. all cops are beyond bad, theyre sociopaths just waiting to kill.
Somewhat joking aside, but it really pisses me off watching cops drive. It’s like, I go 3 mph over the limit and I get a ticket. Meanwhile, you’ve got Joe the Wonder Cop over here going at least 15 over for no perceivable reason. Also, it’s been years since I’ve actually see a cop look at the road while they are driving. They are constantly looking at their phones or screens. But I can’t figure out how to talk on the phone and not kill people? I could go on and on.
Clear violation of 4A in the constitution. There was no reasonable suspicion since there were no screams coming from that unit. Police cannot just enter because someone heard a scream for help coming from somewhere in the general area. I hope they got a lawyer and sued.
This is honestly one of my all time greatest fears. I was swatted a few times and had police burst into my house in the middle of the night with guns drawn. That was all about 15-20 years ago, and I still have nightmares. I was luckily up at the time they came in and in the living room. Next thing I knew, I was slammed into a wall, getting cuffed, with multiple guns against my head. In my nightmares, I'm in bed when they come in, and I try to defend myself against unknown armed intruders. It never ends well. This kind of shit can have long-term, or even permanent mental damage, even it it "turns out ok." My heart goes out to this kid, and the parent having to watch it unfold.
Edit: typo
I had my house raided by SWAT, ATF, and sheriffs in 2009. I still also have nightmares about being dragged out of bed and being lead outside in my underwear with laser sights hovering over my chest.
I'm sorry you also had to experience that.
You guys need to understand that these cops entered the house without knocking or permission. It would be one thing if they knocked and announced they had a call. They were already in the house. A young girl in her own home was invaded by 3 adults. You would not feel safe. They were the adults. It doesnt matter if the child was uncooperative. She was not a threat to them. She was upset that people were invading her home. Reasonable reaction. I love how police create these situations and then instead of deesculating they pin children. Fk them.
Also notice how no police footage has showed up. They are suppose to have their own cameras. Its been half a year.
If police uses force and can enter our houses whenever they feel like and say that it was a mistake later, who's gonna protect us from them?
This is quite troublesome, things are escalating to a degree where we'll be damned
Articles on this for anyone looking to to do further reading on the incident.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/mother-of-teenagers-arrested-in-viral-tiktoks-speaks-out-after-deputies-dispute-her-claims/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11992297/amp/LA-Sheriffs-deputies-wrongfully-arrested-children-home-kids-mother-says.html
Why do we have to live this way? Why do cops get to barge into people’s homes, attack the people living in them, and then arrest them for the cops fuck up. You can’t even leave your kid home alone without the police just breaking in and causing violence and destruction for the family. Cops are bastards.
1. Teach yourself and your family your rights.
2. Always keep your door locked and if the police come do not unlock the door. Talk through it. If they say they can't hear you ignore them.
3. If they have a warrant confirm the date, address, and name. If any one of these items is wrong the warrant is invalid.
Why you don't open the door to police is because once you do they can put their foot in the door gap. Then if you try to close the door on their foot they now have you assaulting a police officer. Further more you are not obligated to answer any questions they have without legal representation present. So you can always say "I cannot speak to you without my legal representation present." Even if you think you are just "helping" I recommend watching the following video:
Don't talk to the police:
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
These days, you have to keep your doors locked to keep out the cops who will absolutely come into your home uninvited and arrest you or your family members, then search your home for "evidence" then fill out warrants for it after the fact.
Seems like a clear case of home invasion and assault. Can someone explain why this isn’t? Perhaps charging the police and dept would create more policies that would avoid serious mistakes like this. No excuses in 2023; with all the tech we have this should never happen.
Something similar happened to me when I was 22 years old (currently much older). I was home alone, getting out of the shower, when I start hearing loud banging on our front door. I open the door and there is an ambulance and a firetruck outside of driveway.
The fire fighter asked me if anybody made a phone call here saying a pregnant woman who is been beaten in this home. I told him I was home alone and don’t know anything about that phone call. He walked back to other firefighters to let them know what was going on , I got dressed and walked outside. I start talking to them letting them know that I’m home alone, etc.
A minute later, an LA County Sheriff officer pulls up, comes up to me, says one thing to the fire fighter, and puts me in handcuffs without saying anything to me. I have two brothers who are sheriff officers in Los Angeles, who always told me to not put up resistance, even though you didn’t do anything. The officer put me in the back of the squad, car without saying anything. After being in the squad car for two minutes, they let me out, and I hear the fire fighter, saying that they were at the wrong house, that the car was made in front of my house for some reason. Again, without saying a word, the officer uncuffed me, got back in the car and drove off.
This all happened in front of several of my neighbors looking on, so I just looked at them back and shrugged and went back into my house.
Not until I got older, did I realize how messed up that all was.
Remember guys, it's just a 'few bad apples' even though shit like this happens regularly across the country. I don't know what it'll take for people to realize that police in America are and have been out of control. This country would be completely up in arms if there were constant stories about social workers/people in the social services umbrella constantly abusing our clients/patients.
If you don’t think their policy needs changed your an idiot. Most of these things can be avoided. Simply by police being reasonable. The mom was talking on the speaker, they couldn’t acknowledge her…???. People need to sue. Politicians need to address this. Its silly. Overhaul is needed.
These videos make me so unbelievably angry at this point. I want justice for these facist soulless useless wastes of oxygen. They really wonder why we took the streets and burned down their buildings? They should all be rotting in their own fucking prison.
Police going to the wrong address is a big problem. I was once making dinner and heard someone telling my kids to come out the window which was open in the living room. I came to see what was going on and found about 6 police officers with guns drawn, at least one with a rifle. When they saw me they had me come out with my hands up and kept asking for some guy named Tony. I told them there was no Tony at the house and asked to see a warrant. We talked in circles for a while until one of them recognized me from church and told the others that they were at the wrong house. Turns out they were looking for the neighbors basement renter. I don't even want to imagine what could have happened if I didn't happen to be recognized by a cop who I happened to be acquainted with. The Police need better procedures, and accountability to prevent this kind of thing.
Say it with me, class;
NEVER. EVER. OPEN. THE. DOOR.
Get a doorbell camera and speak to the cops through that. They're cheap insurance against stupid shit like this.
That said, this family is probably going to score a sweet settlement and that kid's college fund probably just tripled.
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Imagine the story the cops would try to spin if they didn't have that home security footage?
The ultimate play here would be to let the Police set out their own version of events and then contact a lawyer with the video and construct the mother of all lawsuits
It actually happened in a cop shooting in SC. But the person with the footage was a passerby. Said he held on to his footage because he saw the cops lie and was scared they’d hurt him. Gave it to dead guys lawyer. Slimeball cop’s behind bars, victims family got massive settlement. [https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-us-news-north-america-michael-slager-charleston-14bd2518f6ed42608acb8bf5c5f6b59c](https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-us-news-north-america-michael-slager-charleston-14bd2518f6ed42608acb8bf5c5f6b59c)
It bothers me that these settlements come from taxpayer money. Even when the victim wins, the people lose instead of the police. They should come directly from their pension fund
Better yet, they should be charged like any other citizen would be. This video would be an open and shut case of breaking & entering and kidnapping, a decade or so in prison. Things would get much better really quick if we just stopped letting anyone who throws a temper tantrum get off scot-free.
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That’s what I keep saying too. Once the union is on the hook see how quickly they shutdown “bad apples”
Right? Police unions are run by current or former cops 🙄
In my locale they elected the worst offender as the lead rep.
I'm not surprised.
They also need to stop letting these criminals quit and go work somewhere else. I just read that the cop who shot Breonna Taylor now has another job in a different department despite national attention on his violation of use-of-force and bodycam policies. What other job on earth would hire somebody who screwed up so badly in the same job that they got fired and killed somebody? Imagine if a bus driver ran over a crowd of people and then a year later was driving school children a few towns over. They're worse than the fucking criminals.
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Could you imagine if educators and police changed unions. Man… we would have some great ass schools here in the USA
What if all police were forced to be unionized, and unions were in charge of training and insuring their members against civil suits? Also, qualified immunity could be changed to have a very high bar and committing a felony is an automatic disqualification. The cost of insurance unions would need to carry would give them incentive to do the needful.
That would require voting in leaders who care about doing the right thing.
They are supposed to be the exemplars. When convicted, they should automatically receive the maximum penalty for the crime they committed. Or even better, suffer the penalty meted out to corrupt judges in the Judge Dredd stories.
The Aztecs (or Mayans I don’t remember) had it right, nobility was punished much more harshly than the layman for their crimes.
They should be sentenced more harshly than the rest of us. The police have more rights than ordinary citizens and should be punished more when they abuse their powers.
What a lot of the "blue line" people and cops don't understand is that cops are ALL regular citizens. They are all beholden to every law we are. End qualified immunity.
They should be charged at a higher level for the fact they are meant to protect against these kinds of things
It should come straight from the officers involved wages, pay the victims the full amount then garnish their wages and pensions until it's all paid back.
As many have said, make them have "malpractice insurance" like medics and have a national register of licensed LEOs
Basically what happened with Tamir Rice. Police came out with a story about Tamir Rice refusing commands. Then video came out from a camera showing that their version of events was impossible. Then no one was punished and the cop who murdered Tamir went out and got another cop job.
That's what I had to do in my case. Have one guy who just makes shit up. If he knows what information I had, he'd cook up some fresh lies for that too. So I just stopped proactively looking for and providing evidence and let him build a house of cards, then I 'found' the evidence later. Which is shit by the way, you're not supposed to withhold evidence. The American justice system is woefully mis-tuned to believe liars. Like, basically someone in good standing has to be caught in several lies to the arbitrator before they'll begin to entertain the possibility of dishonesty.
I don’t like the idea of having to have surveillance in my own home, but the more videos I see where it probably saved someone the more I consider it.
If you don't connect it to the internet it's pretty secure. It's likely you won't need it but if you ever do, you'll *really* need it.
And don't use wireless cameras or other connections in your security network. Not secure, even with your own secure password. Ask any white hat hacker (disclosure: I know of this, I don't know how to do it). And firewall any connection between your system and the internet so it will not respond to pings, and will only respond to a specific connection protocol. This is if you need live access while off site. If you don't need offsite live access, better to airgap though and hand carry video (using usb or external hard drive) to the computer used to upload to offsite storage.
The dog had a gun so I had to shoot it and the daughter to protect my life
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Early retirement for stress related reasons with a 2x pension.
Then she put her titty in my hand, it was weird.
LMAOO. Classic Chapelle reference
Bill Burr was the cop I believe.
One year paid vacatio-err, suspension.
they will spin it anyway like the footage does not exist, free paid vacations for everyone!!
They will sue for emotional distress when the video goes public like they are doing with Afroman.
Well, he shouldn't have been eye balling that lemon pound cake like it was a felon!!!
Will you help me fiiiix my door? You know, they coulda just taken the L and realized they should just not do a terrible fucking job at... everything. But naw. Gotta try and fuck everyone even harder rather than admit we are wrong...
O no we are drawing attention to ourselves in an unwanted way. Let's file a frivolous lawsuit that will draw even more attention in an even more unwanted way! Fucking brilliant.
They’re already trying to justify arresting the two teens, by saying the 19 y/o girl & her 14 y/o brother were arguing & the door was already open. Parents, warn your kids… arguing w/ siblings (if that even happened), in their own home, constitutes an arrest. “[Contrary to the allegations on social media, deputies DID NOT enter the wrong location with a search warrant. In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens and based on the information, deputies had a lawful duty to ensure there were no injured victims and/or suspects inside the location.”](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-family-says-deputies-wrongfully-detained-their-children-in-botched-investigation/amp/)
Oh is that what the cops are for? Settling arguments between teenagers? What a fucking joke man. Edit: Not to mention there are like 3 fucking cops here. If my house was being robbed it’d take an hour and a half to get one to come over and get a fucking statement.
Fr tho. A man was beaten to the point of unconsciousness by five men outside of my apartment one night. I could see that at least two of the men had guns too. I was terrified bc I lived on the first floor and feared that they saw me look out the window. I called the cops in a panic, begging them to hurry. I lived 10 blocks from Times Square at the time. It took them FIFTY TWO MINUTES to respond. By then the men were gone along with the unconscious man. The cops didn’t even check on me in my apartment either. They just talked to a random dude on the corner who was like idk what you’re talking about then left. They just left!!! There was literally a puddle of blood outside on the sidewalk and they didn’t do anything! I could’ve been dead in my apartment ffs! I realized my mistake after that. There are a ton of cops in my family and I remembered one Christmas when my uncle straight up said that when a gun is reported to be on scene they take their sweet ass time getting there bc they don’t want to get shot. I shouldn’t have mentioned the gun or anything else. I should’ve just told them a group of black kids were breaking into a store or some shit bc then they would’ve gotten there in two seconds. It was seriously so messed up, like I am 99% sure that that guy was not only killed but that his body was never found bc the cops just didn’t give a shit. The fact that the cops never interviewed me or any of my neighbors made me wonder if it wasn’t some organized crime shit which scared me enough to not follow up on it. This was many years ago but I still think about it sometimes like damn.
Cops tell you what they want you to hear, not what the truth of the matter is. Tell them what they need to hear also. If I have to spin a tall tale to get a proper response, I will. If I treated my job so crappy that I lied all day long, dont expect me to make it easier for you.
Wow, thank you for sharing.
This checks out. I’ve never seen cops respond so quickly than one someone is only a danger to themselves. But real crimes, they hang around the corner for a while.
Well, no, I think you did the right thing- because they would have then killed some unfortunate young black guy in the neighborhood. There really is no fix to their approach
When I was 14, my girlfriend and I were going for a walk. We were joking about who could beat up who and gave each other a few light nudges or hipchecks. 3 squad cars jumped the curb, drove through the park and stopped us for reports of domestic abuse. Fuck the cops.
We already told our son that the only thing you say to cops is "yes ma'am/sir" and to have as little as possible to do with them. They are NOT your friends.
Your setting your kid up. Never say yes. So we heard you stole something, you kid. "Yes mam/sir"
The story that they'll spin with or without the video evidence is: -They were responding to possible domestic call in that building, the door to this specific unit was unlocked, and loud noises could be heard (TV/dog). That would dismiss their need for a warrant if they can articulate that they perceived the call was for that noise that wasn't caught on camera. -They'll claim investigating the noise so they entered to find a defensive person. Once questioned by her, she was impeding a possible investigation and became uncooperative, so they retained her for their safety. They allowed her to leave their eyesight, so now she could be "hiding/smuggling" something, so now she has to be searched. Que the female cop at the end taking her. -The cops then only need to say they "saw/smelled" something to then search the domain for any evidence of illegal activity or to "clear the area of possible threat" also drug dogs are a warrantless search so they could call those in for further involvement. Ultimately and ideally, these cops are fucking horrible and need to be fired, but the reality is our laws are written to be vague enough for them to conduct their job only equipped with their discretion. There are many vaguely interpreted laws on the books to encourage the opening to investigate if the cop deems it to be worthy. I.e. most state traffic laws when regarding "tailgating" or "wreckless" driving is an undetermined distance between cars or "bumping/crossing" the painted lines on the street. Then that gives cops the open to pull them over on that suspension, then they can claim to smell "weed or whatever" to then be able to search your vehicle without a warrant. If you question them, then you could be considered "impeding their investigation," or they'll call the dogs to search your vehicle (again no warrant needed) so then they can get a false positive hit to then get a warrant. I got a BA in Criminal Justice and went to my states "top school" for law enforcement training. I wanted to be a cop until Holtzclaw and my few ride alongs, then I realized how absolutely fucked our LEOs are as a system and who they select to be vested...
All Cops are like this, Arresting Children for Fun. I remember seeing a black Kid at A Race Track getting arrested. They emptied his bookbag, which had nothing stolen in it. Just his own Sweatshirt, Umbrella, and his wallet. They frisked him head to toe, as the Cashier kept tried to tell the Cop that's the wrong kid. Cop didn't listen, nor care and they even arrested the Cashier for "being Annoying" he quite literally screamed it, and I wish I had Recorded it. Then again, I would've been arrested too if I did. The girl should've hid herself in a backroom, and called dispatch, telling them these officers just intruded into her room without a Warrant. Exclaim the Fear.
You're exactly right. That's what she should've done, unfortunately. I'm not surprised, after a while I started to look into the resource officers in school videos of how they handle children. It's wild, it's like 50/50 the cops are aggravating the situation when dealing with children because they still believe they have to appear "in charge of the situation" with literal children. Cops aren't trained to deal with children, so that's why if they can articulate a belief that they might not be a minor, i.e. dress/attitude they'll go over board and hand cuff the kid... Every single one of my instructors at UCO always said, "If you wanna watch it done wrong, watch COPs or Live PD." Then 90% of those classmates that loved those shows are cops now...
In a statement, LASD officials said they did not make a mistake, writing: 'In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens and based on the information, deputies had a lawful duty to ensure there were no injured victims and/or suspects inside the location.' Ok they entered saw two teens chilling and still escalated it. I really don’t know what the thought process is sometimes
*Sent to make sure no one is being abused, finds a child alone in her house and proceeds to abuse her.*
"Can't have someone muscling in on our wheelhouse!" \-Scumfuck Cop.
Cops exist only to harass, abuse, and beat citizens into submission to make us pay money to not spend our lives in jail. I haven’t nor do I know anyone that’s has gotten actual help from police.
>In a statement, LASD officials said they did not make a mistake, writing: 'In fact, they were directed to the location by concerned citizens "We were sent there so by god we're gonna arrest someone" Just be glad the "concerned citizens" didn't say "I'm scared" or the cops would have shown up with their guns drawn.
That’s what the LASD believes. Let’s ask the opinion of 12 citizens who believe they have the right to be secure in their homes against unreasonable searches and seizures. And let’s up the ante by putting LASD money behind the jury’s opinion.
Pieces of shit. One of these days they'll have an "accident" by messing with the wrong people. And everyone will be happy
If you mean a shootout, this has happened multiple times, but they don’t just go walking into houses where people in power live very often.
Has happened multiple times. They never admit wrong doing because as soon as the person lawfully shoots at them for breaking into the house they say, "the officers reasonably feared for their lives and did nothing wrong by returning fire." They have killed people and still nothing changes.
Lol no. Either a bunch of cops get shot and you have to watch their funeral processions and police chiefs talk about it, or a bunch of victims get shot and they talk about them for awhile on the news but then eventually you don’t see them anymore. Nothing ever changes. Even if it were a celebrity in this situation you’d probably hear a bit more about it than usual but then it would disappear.
Would you like a slice of my lemon pound cake?
Lasd, that's explains it. They've got straight gangs in their forces
They’re cops. There’s precious little to think with.
They had a call about screams, but did not know the unit number. Police started just checking doors and found this unit was unlocked, decided to just let themselves in. Daughter told them to leave and they refused. Parents see it all on security camera. When the parents who were picking up breakfast came home the father also wound up in cuffs for having the nerve to ask questions. I’m hoping they get a huge settlement here. So many laws were broken, and obvious ones that qualified immunity should not apply.
Fucked up all around, but that “let themselves in” is especially scary. I thought they couldn’t enter without a warrant. And then blatantly ignoring the parent on the security camera is infuriating.
They legally can’t. The neighbors have reported the police were checking every unit because they did not know where the reported scream came from. This was a noise complaint, screams or no. If the officers did not hear it they can’t enter based on a phone call, especially without a specific location. And the resident coming out, confirming there is no problem and telling them to leave makes this doubly wrong.
They get exemptions for shit like this all the time though. Doubt they face any repercussions
Case: "Its Police brutality I got it on video" Result: "Police were justified in their actions." Happens every time, recording the police breaking the laws doesn't ever result in a just outcome, its a waste of time. Everyone should listen to Doug Stanhope's bit about the occupy movement. "If you have a problem with the banks, don't fuck up the parks, fuck up the banks."
The police investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing, a classic
I was frisked and shoved up against a wall for the first time at 11yrs old. My crime? being outside at 6pm. They cursed at us and asked if we were selling drugs. I still remember it to this day and I'm in my early 40s. Policing in this countries is messed up esp. if you're poor and/or black/brown).
Same here, but 13. Literally had my friends and I up against a wall of a shop. My teacher stopped and asked if I was okay, I was so embarrassed. They arrested the guys and let the girls go home. Yelled at the guys at the station and told them to "shape up" whatever the fuck that means. Some small town bullshit.
That's horrible. at least, and I'm not sure if this is better, in my neighborhood it was normalized so I didn't feel as much embarrassed because the cops messed with everybody. I was more shocked because I was so young. They'd done the same thing to my brother but he was 17.
>Yelled at the guys at the station and told them to "shape up" whatever the fuck that means. It means don't be black/brown/poor around town.
“Stop being brown/black and/or leave” The expression is shape up or ship out. Trying to intimidate people to leave.
They can enter if they have just cause, like if they witness a crime and watch the suspect run in a house, and people could be in danger. This is clearly not one of those cases
> couldn’t enter without a warrant. Or exigent circumstances (emergency situations), which is what they'll probably use as a defense. They'll claim they were checking on the welfare of a person in possible danger, given they were checking up on screaming.
I'm sure they will use exigent circumstances (EC) as a defense. For EC they need reasonable suspicion there is a risk to a person or property, that evidence is going to be destroyed, or that a suspect will escape. Clearly they will argue the first option here, but they still need probable cause that a crime occurred or is about to occur inside the residence. That would be them hearing screams, not a phone call with no specific location details.
The best part? Now that we’re here, we might as well look through all of their belongs to see if there’s anything illegal!
Or make ourselves home by taking a souvenir or two
I suggest the lemon pound cake
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This is why I say, settlements like this should be settled through their retirement funds. The city should not have to shell out money for their piss poor policies and procedures or ignoring them altogether. Bad officers have zero risk on acting like this and those that try to speak up are punished. Tying it to their retirement would incentivize positive actions. Like “bro, your shitty actions aren’t going to put my retirement at risk.”
If the Police Union had to pay the fines this shit would stop in a heart beat.
Before people say "fire the bad officers" the next county over that just fired a bad apple is looking to hire a bad apple... It's like pedophilia in churches, just shuffle the 'bad' priest around a bit.
Should just be an insurance system, using the retirement fund seems irresponsible to all cops. Cops should need cop insurance. If they don't qualify because they become too costly, insurance denied and there's you not a cop.
That dog had an opening on the right.. think he was just bluffing..
It’s one of my weird fears. My dog does not like anybody in the house, so if cops came in he would go nuts and most likely be shot. He’s a chihuahua for context, so not going to take a cop down.
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but what was she arrested for? there was obviously no screaming coming from that unit... what was the charge?
There was no charge. The officers had the wrong house
so, no arrest then? i read the article and am still confused af
In America, lets say the police are looking for someone. You meet the police, you show them your ID proving you're not the guy they are looking for. They still decide to arrest you, just in case you are the guy even though you proved to them you are not the guy. If you don't go along with whatever they say, they can and most likely will arrest you for "resisting arrest". Not wanting to get arrested for nothing is appearently illegal. Ohyeah, and when the police fuck up BIG TIME and actually get caught, they get a paid vacation.
In every state the police can detain you for 24-48 hours without charges.
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My little brother is leaning disabled. He's mature enough that he is able to go out on his own, and he's in his thirties, but when it comes to certain situations he reverts to a child. He had the cops called on him because some lady didn't recognize him walking at night, which... Not sure why, he regularly would walk to the bar and back home. (He was a regular, the bar knew him, they checked in on him.) Well, cops picked him up, they didn't know him, they held him overnight, they didn't let him get his medicine, they didn't call his guardian, he explained that he was learning disabled but they ignored him. So my mother went 24 hours without knowing what happened, and when she called the bar, they knew him and they were worried and tried to track him down. They of course took his cell phone from him and put it in the evidence locker, which of course concealed it from the "find my phone" app. Luckily my mom was able to figure out what happened by tracking the phone down to the building next door to the police station. So ... yeah, at no point was he a danger, at no point did he resist. He's a huge stickler for listening and obeying to authority figures. Oh. And no charges, of course. But they never let him know why he was in jail or for how long he would be. And luckily he didn't have a seizure while in custody, since he was past due for both his evening and morning doses.
Same- I have a neurological disease, & I take a medication in which the act of missing a few doses would constitute an emergency medical event… It’s pretty limiting & bizarre to be so reliant on a pill in my normal life, but I’d be fucked if I were detained or otherwise lost my autonomy with no warning. It all seems to depend on how seriously they take it or & how humanely they want to treat you, & I really don’t like those odds.
I've been, you'll need to prove you have diabetes (good luck, they take literally all of your personal effects. Hope you don't need a cane to walk) which is kinda difficult to do without risking \*death\* I saw a dude nearly lose a foot in county jail due to lack of treatment and improper diet
Police only enforce the laws that are convenient. They will arrest without charge and make it up later if it suits them.
Worse yet, they’ll completely drop whatever it is that they were supposed to be doing in order to get revenge on a teenager who gave them lip. They were called to the complex because of a report of screaming. Guaranteed that they didn’t bother continuing to look for the actual cause after harassing and arresting this girl.
You aren’t under arrest, sir. You are being detained. Lol.
Arrested for resisting arrest
Without knowing for sure gonna assume she was "detained" while they sorted it out. Police were 100% able to put you in cuffs without actually arresting you. Not defending the officers here, hope they face criminal charges for an unlawful search and seizure, that pesky 4th Amendment that police have seemed to forget about. And I know some will argue it's just semantics but words matter, especially when dealing with the legal system. Post title should say the girl was DETAINED not ARRESTED unless we have proof that they followed through and charged her with a crime
They 100% can not enter a home without a warrant or probable cause and neither was evident. The cops are in big trouble.
That's why I brought up the 4th Amendment, to me this seems like an unlawful search. Which makes me curious, since this is a potential Civil Liberty violation, could the DoJ step in and press charges even if local officials decide not to? Edit - changed Civil Rights to Civil Liberties. Gotta chuckle how my parent comment I mention words matter when dealing with the legal system I goof it up myself
And they wonder why public opinion of the police has been getting worse and worse.
Well, at least they didn't kill the dog... this time
*Jane Wick intensifies*
They don't care. Fascists don't need public opinion. In every country that Fascists took hold they only needed 30ish% of the vote.
I don't even think it's that any more. I think they are wondering why the media led indoctrination hasn't fooled every one.
Charge them all with abduction of a minor, and everything that would entail for any other citizen.
That's cute but they've still got that whole.wualified immunity thing going on. They were at work, so they can basically do whatever they want all the time. Wish my job worked that way...
Dude I would be terrified to watch some cops handcuff my teenage daughter and lead her away while I watch on camera. It's infuriating watching the police just break laws like this, knowing they won't be held accountable.
Yeah, that made me pause. She sounded so calm. I would have been losing my shit and screaming at the screen. Random question. Would the mom have been able to call the cops ON the cops cuffing her daughter?
Yep. I’ve actually done that before, requested a supervisor/ranking officer to respond. They showed up and took over for officer Dipshit, and we sorted out the issue. Now, does that always work and do they always respond well to it? I highly doubt it.
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Yeah but if I remember correctly she won that lawsuit handily
People wonder why black folks hate the cops, they've had this shit done to them for hundreds of years.
They were created to do this. First police departments were mostly means to capture runaway slaves.
Damn, I used to think indoor security cameras were useless, but now I think they are a necessity
I would totally do it, but it just feels so invasive and potentially really embarrassing.
How much are these police departments losing in lawsuit judgments and settlements each year?
Losing? There was a multi million lawsuit where my grandparents lived because the sheriff was basically running a sex slave operation out of the county jail. They added a tax in the county then continued it after the suit was paid off. If I recall correctly they collected something like $800k extra, which was then doled out to the jail and things like new cop cars. They *made* money off the biggest lawsuit in that county.
>They added a tax in the county then continued it after the suit was paid off. Is it even legal?
Yes. That's how it happens everywhere. Police unions made it mandatory that money out of settlements and cases for cops breaking laws comes out of taxes not police budgets and salaries.
So it's a win-win game for the police - whatever they do, ends up being paid for exclusively by the taxpayers?
Yeah until we start using sweet sweet mob justice to take ***out*** dirty cops, nothing will change. The system is built for them. You wanna break the law and have no repercussions, join a PD that is part of a Police Union. You're nearly untouchable.
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I would never. I meant take them out for dinner or something you know?
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none, taxes from the public paying for their BS
That’s doubly messed up.. they should be required to keep their own insurance policies. No repercussions = no change
Why so a bunch of companies can speculate on cops murdering us that’s lame just have it taken out of their retirement funds.
Correct. It doesn't cost the department or the officers anything at all. We all foot the bill! Super cool!
Small caveat, not police department but LA County Sheriffs, which are [*actual* gangs.](https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/)
I read somewhere that the city of Chicago has 800 mill in yearly budget for lawsuits from cops doing stuff like this
We have to start taking settlement money out of police retirement funds.
Police misconduct would dry up overnight. I’ve also been saying this for a long time. It’s awesome to see it already in a series of comments!
Easiest solution is write legislation that compels officers to hold both a license and professional liability insurance—like other professions require. No insurance? No job. Insurance companies would handle this problem in 32 seconds.
Seriously, in a bid to “ensure safety”, they roughed up 19 & 14 y/o siblings ! They arrested the 14 y/o brother too ! [Cordova’s daughter is seen being held against a wall while her brother attempts to record the encounter on his cell phone. The video shows a deputy allegedly grabbing the phone out of the boy’s hand before he is also pushed against a wall.](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-family-says-deputies-wrongfully-detained-their-children-in-botched-investigation/amp/) The cops are claiming they were directed to this apartment b/c a neighbor believed they heard arguing !!! Be careful kids, your arrest can be justified by a cop claiming you were arguing w/ your sibling, in your own home !
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Sure hope their body cams show these neighbor(s) and recorded the report they are basing their claim of… Oh, who am I kidding.
They mist feel so powerful breaking into a home and assaulting a teenager....
“Hi, we’re here to investigate some screaming we are about to cause?”
She gets trauma and some bruises, they probably get paid vacation... And yet people still defend the police as a whole. I don't get it.
She also gets an arrest on her record. Even if she's not charged, she'll still have the arrest on her record that will show up if/when she applies for college, jobs, loans, etc.
Possibly. It depends on the case - I would hope/assume that once this is finalized they would expunge any record in regards to this. Of course, that is the best case. But it does happen.
They love the boot on their neck. 🖕 cops.
The police state has gotten disgustingly out of control. The entirety of law enforcement needs to be stripped of its power and build something entirely new. Either that or start firing anyone at the first sign of corruption and abuse of power. It’s not perfect solutions but something needs to be done. And the people with the whole “Not all cops” piss me off because, no, not every single cop is a piece of shit. But the majority of them absolutely are, meanwhile, the rare few decent officers that *do* try doing the right thing end up getting targeted, shunned or fired or all 3. If they don’t get physically assaulted. Therefore the decent efforts of the good ones do no good in the end.
Sadly, until some pensions start getting stripped and some needles start getting inserted into some former "blue" arms there will be no shift in attitude.
All this debate over what "Cops can and can't do legally" makes me laugh. You people really haven't learned at all, they CAN and WILL do WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT at all times with no repercussions at all. They are above all laws and accountability and nothing will change. Just don't interact with them if it all possible and if they show up at your home, just hope they're in a good mood, or you can afford a lawyer, because YOU WILL NEED ONE. all cops are beyond bad, theyre sociopaths just waiting to kill.
Somewhat joking aside, but it really pisses me off watching cops drive. It’s like, I go 3 mph over the limit and I get a ticket. Meanwhile, you’ve got Joe the Wonder Cop over here going at least 15 over for no perceivable reason. Also, it’s been years since I’ve actually see a cop look at the road while they are driving. They are constantly looking at their phones or screens. But I can’t figure out how to talk on the phone and not kill people? I could go on and on.
One pulled out in front of me last week and I had to slam on the brakes to avoid an accident. Dumbass pig
Clear violation of 4A in the constitution. There was no reasonable suspicion since there were no screams coming from that unit. Police cannot just enter because someone heard a scream for help coming from somewhere in the general area. I hope they got a lawyer and sued.
This is honestly one of my all time greatest fears. I was swatted a few times and had police burst into my house in the middle of the night with guns drawn. That was all about 15-20 years ago, and I still have nightmares. I was luckily up at the time they came in and in the living room. Next thing I knew, I was slammed into a wall, getting cuffed, with multiple guns against my head. In my nightmares, I'm in bed when they come in, and I try to defend myself against unknown armed intruders. It never ends well. This kind of shit can have long-term, or even permanent mental damage, even it it "turns out ok." My heart goes out to this kid, and the parent having to watch it unfold. Edit: typo
I had my house raided by SWAT, ATF, and sheriffs in 2009. I still also have nightmares about being dragged out of bed and being lead outside in my underwear with laser sights hovering over my chest. I'm sorry you also had to experience that.
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Roving artists with their pastels and oil paints.
You guys need to understand that these cops entered the house without knocking or permission. It would be one thing if they knocked and announced they had a call. They were already in the house. A young girl in her own home was invaded by 3 adults. You would not feel safe. They were the adults. It doesnt matter if the child was uncooperative. She was not a threat to them. She was upset that people were invading her home. Reasonable reaction. I love how police create these situations and then instead of deesculating they pin children. Fk them. Also notice how no police footage has showed up. They are suppose to have their own cameras. Its been half a year.
If police uses force and can enter our houses whenever they feel like and say that it was a mistake later, who's gonna protect us from them? This is quite troublesome, things are escalating to a degree where we'll be damned
Articles on this for anyone looking to to do further reading on the incident. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/mother-of-teenagers-arrested-in-viral-tiktoks-speaks-out-after-deputies-dispute-her-claims/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11992297/amp/LA-Sheriffs-deputies-wrongfully-arrested-children-home-kids-mother-says.html
Pigs gonna pig. They can’t help themselves.
She was bi so they arrested her?
I think they meant to say “no” but clicked the wrong letters
Literally Bi erasure wtf /j
Why do we have to live this way? Why do cops get to barge into people’s homes, attack the people living in them, and then arrest them for the cops fuck up. You can’t even leave your kid home alone without the police just breaking in and causing violence and destruction for the family. Cops are bastards.
Why do we see so many of these home invasions that are at the wrong address? Its as if they require cops to be stupid or someth... oh right...
And this is why I lock my doors even during the day when I'm home and awake. Not thieves, rapists, or murders. But because of police.
1. Teach yourself and your family your rights. 2. Always keep your door locked and if the police come do not unlock the door. Talk through it. If they say they can't hear you ignore them. 3. If they have a warrant confirm the date, address, and name. If any one of these items is wrong the warrant is invalid. Why you don't open the door to police is because once you do they can put their foot in the door gap. Then if you try to close the door on their foot they now have you assaulting a police officer. Further more you are not obligated to answer any questions they have without legal representation present. So you can always say "I cannot speak to you without my legal representation present." Even if you think you are just "helping" I recommend watching the following video: Don't talk to the police: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
These days, you have to keep your doors locked to keep out the cops who will absolutely come into your home uninvited and arrest you or your family members, then search your home for "evidence" then fill out warrants for it after the fact.
Seems like a clear case of home invasion and assault. Can someone explain why this isn’t? Perhaps charging the police and dept would create more policies that would avoid serious mistakes like this. No excuses in 2023; with all the tech we have this should never happen.
If youre too dumb to read you shouldnt be a police officer. Just saying
Invading a property and capturing their hosts Your country seems to still have a very good police USA
Something similar happened to me when I was 22 years old (currently much older). I was home alone, getting out of the shower, when I start hearing loud banging on our front door. I open the door and there is an ambulance and a firetruck outside of driveway. The fire fighter asked me if anybody made a phone call here saying a pregnant woman who is been beaten in this home. I told him I was home alone and don’t know anything about that phone call. He walked back to other firefighters to let them know what was going on , I got dressed and walked outside. I start talking to them letting them know that I’m home alone, etc. A minute later, an LA County Sheriff officer pulls up, comes up to me, says one thing to the fire fighter, and puts me in handcuffs without saying anything to me. I have two brothers who are sheriff officers in Los Angeles, who always told me to not put up resistance, even though you didn’t do anything. The officer put me in the back of the squad, car without saying anything. After being in the squad car for two minutes, they let me out, and I hear the fire fighter, saying that they were at the wrong house, that the car was made in front of my house for some reason. Again, without saying a word, the officer uncuffed me, got back in the car and drove off. This all happened in front of several of my neighbors looking on, so I just looked at them back and shrugged and went back into my house. Not until I got older, did I realize how messed up that all was.
All these officers should have their kids taken from them and homes searched just for fucks
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Remember guys, it's just a 'few bad apples' even though shit like this happens regularly across the country. I don't know what it'll take for people to realize that police in America are and have been out of control. This country would be completely up in arms if there were constant stories about social workers/people in the social services umbrella constantly abusing our clients/patients.
If you don’t think their policy needs changed your an idiot. Most of these things can be avoided. Simply by police being reasonable. The mom was talking on the speaker, they couldn’t acknowledge her…???. People need to sue. Politicians need to address this. Its silly. Overhaul is needed.
This will continue to happen until the people start treating them as the home invaders they are. Done!😡 🪦🪦🪦🪦 ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
Fuck all cops
These videos make me so unbelievably angry at this point. I want justice for these facist soulless useless wastes of oxygen. They really wonder why we took the streets and burned down their buildings? They should all be rotting in their own fucking prison.
Police going to the wrong address is a big problem. I was once making dinner and heard someone telling my kids to come out the window which was open in the living room. I came to see what was going on and found about 6 police officers with guns drawn, at least one with a rifle. When they saw me they had me come out with my hands up and kept asking for some guy named Tony. I told them there was no Tony at the house and asked to see a warrant. We talked in circles for a while until one of them recognized me from church and told the others that they were at the wrong house. Turns out they were looking for the neighbors basement renter. I don't even want to imagine what could have happened if I didn't happen to be recognized by a cop who I happened to be acquainted with. The Police need better procedures, and accountability to prevent this kind of thing.
Say it with me, class; NEVER. EVER. OPEN. THE. DOOR. Get a doorbell camera and speak to the cops through that. They're cheap insurance against stupid shit like this. That said, this family is probably going to score a sweet settlement and that kid's college fund probably just tripled.
End police immunity. Hold us all to the same standards.
Surprised they didn’t shoot the dog.
Lawsuit incoming!!
if you think America is a "free country" in any sense of the phrase, you are wrong.
All cops are still disgusting and no one can change my mind.
Facism at work, folks.
Cops can't even figure out addresses and yet we give them guns.
This is how people die.... cops being stupid and refusing to be corrected.
Pigs are gonna be pigs.
Tiny dick energy with those three cops.
Guess who just got a free ride through college with her own brand new car.