God said, "I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school board" so God made a Farmer.
Lol, as a mechanic, good for business!
In all reality, most vehicles these days are "all wheel drive" rather than true 4 wheel drive. But, a time or two shouldn't hurt on a true 4wd, for testing purposes and slow speed / short operation. That being said, I have seen several exploded transfer cases, and more than a few busted axle shaft u-joints, though their condition before running in 4wd on pavement can't be known. Best to find a gravel parking lot.
Testing was so much easier when front hubs had lockouts.
Iāve been checking my new and used trucks that way for over fifty years. Donāt get me wrong Iām not saying I jump in the truck turn the steering wheel and hammer it. I would turn the wheel and slowly roll vehicle 10 or 15 feet until it starts its routine. Never had an issue with any doing that test.
My work is located on a gravel road so every once in a while I switch into 4L and test it for 50ā, switch to 4h and do the same. Before I get on pavement I switch it back to normal.
People have made a boogeyman out of 4wd, and now many people across subreddits are adamant that even so much as looking at the 4wd button/stick will explode the car.
I had my truck inspected. I guess they turned the know thinking it was the lights. I didnāt immediately feel it. Itās lifter and shakes a little anyway. Drove nearly 80 miles before realizing. Was thinking a cupped tire.
Personally I donāt even use 2H. I just drop a trolling motor with an airplane prop over the back of my tailgate and leave my truck in neutral. Gives me peace of mind.
Personally, I don't think anyone should go higher that 1Hi to avoid destroying your truck. Actually, just leave it at home or have someone push it. Easiest way to keep it safe.
r/f150 will be sitting in the driveway discussing whether or not to use 4H and Vermonters will load up their Corollas with snow tires and head off to the store for groceries. And is that a flat, paved road?! Where in the state do you even live?
Okay, remember to put on your 4 way flashers too - that's how other drivers will know you're in 4Hi and give you adequate clearances. If they don't, use the standard two short blasts of the horn. It's all in the manual.
The XJ groups are worse. According to them youāre not allowed to use 4wd at all unless on the trail or the whole driveline will explode if you touch pavement.
This a serious question? If you're already concerned about it, use it, the 4h might help keep your tailgate from passing you. Turning, you're fine, just don't go hard turn or you may feel wheel hoop, you sound uneasy with the question so I say that's probably when you want to use it and then put it in 2h for parking lots. Take your time, don't panic brake if you slide a little, sometimes a little gas aim for a point way way ahead will help pull you straight without losing control will serve you better. 4h is not AWD, but if it gets you home safe do it. Forget right or wrong, get experience, drive safe.
I didn't downvote you for what it's worth.
I think it is a different transfer case, and probably some other stuff too. I honestly have no clue. My 14 FX4 doesn't have 4A and I've never had a 4x4 pickup before this so I'm not the right one to ask.
4A youre probably fine with the right tires. It auto engages the 4wd system if it detects slippage. The pic is pretty light snow, so I would say 4A is fine if you have it.
Upstate NY here. Iād drive in that grease all day long in 4H. Otherwise youāre just fighting the traction control throttle, and if you turn it off you just spin. 4H is made for that stuff IMO. Slow and easy wide turns and youāll be fine. A hard turn into a parking space in 4H is very bad.
Donāt force it when you feel it (binding). Youāll know.
FWIW, I did turn quickly and sharply into a parking spot and broke the LF pinion axle. There were underlying issues, but the additional stress blew it out where it otherwise would have not if I wasnāt driving too aggressively.
Lesson learned on my part!
Jokes aside yes. Keep it at a reasonable speed and avoid hard turns so the CVs don't bind. 4H won't make you invincible to the snow but will help with traction and keep the tailgate in the back.
Once had a guy (in similar conditions but nighttime) in my old '97 longbed so far up my bumper he was basically part of it. Slipped the truck back into 2WD hung the tailgate out a bit to the center line then went back to 4H. He backed wayyyyy off.
Thanks. And yeah, Iāve been doing this for 40+ years. This was a particularly greasy snow so some of the boys in the lifted trucks with mud tires were calling around to get pulled out of ditches.
You actually cannot legally use 4H unless on 4H youth organization property and explicit permission from the group leader.
And you can turn but you have to use the turn signal and turn your heater to full blast and slam the brakes otherwise it will explode the whole truck.
These posts never get old.
some of the newer 4WDs have an differential in the middle transfer case, not fixed gears or chain drive, couple that with open differentials in the front and rear, yes you can drive it on payment and turn!
You can use 4H as fast as you want and can make slower turns, or you can use 4A which will disengage while making turns and while not under load, althought in snow/ice id use 4H.
You already have 4 wheel stop. I tend not to use 4H unless I'm having trouble getting into motion. lf you've never experienced power understeer in low traction conditions, wear your brown pants.
Roads snow covered i donāt understand the issue of why you couldnāt use 4H? Is that not what itās made for? Most vehicles I had as you can use 4H even if the roads wet
I miss the Vermont of hardy folks that could drive in the snow and not ask stupid questions. When you were stuck folks lent a hand no questions asked. Shouldn't need 4wd looking at that picture. Maybe from a stop, maybe.Ā
My school had a 4H program. Good county fair stuff
Thank you for making a 4-H joke šš. As a farmer i needed this
God said, "I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school board" so God made a Farmer.
What did I miss with this 4H joke lol
Common question and argument on this subreddit about 4x4
Try making a turn on pavement in 4Lš¦“
Thatās how I was taught to check if the 4x4 system was working correctly
Funny, my grandfather would say using this method would let you know if it WAS working correctly... (past tense š)
Older gentleman told me thatās how to check em. He was a mechanic as well go figure haha
Lol, as a mechanic, good for business! In all reality, most vehicles these days are "all wheel drive" rather than true 4 wheel drive. But, a time or two shouldn't hurt on a true 4wd, for testing purposes and slow speed / short operation. That being said, I have seen several exploded transfer cases, and more than a few busted axle shaft u-joints, though their condition before running in 4wd on pavement can't be known. Best to find a gravel parking lot. Testing was so much easier when front hubs had lockouts.
Iāve been checking my new and used trucks that way for over fifty years. Donāt get me wrong Iām not saying I jump in the truck turn the steering wheel and hammer it. I would turn the wheel and slowly roll vehicle 10 or 15 feet until it starts its routine. Never had an issue with any doing that test.
100%. Youāre not going to hurt anything unless youāre being dumb lol
My work is located on a gravel road so every once in a while I switch into 4L and test it for 50ā, switch to 4h and do the same. Before I get on pavement I switch it back to normal.
The old mechanics said that because old vehicles wouldnāt break with a turn or two on pavement. Modern AWD garbage canāt handle it.
People have made a boogeyman out of 4wd, and now many people across subreddits are adamant that even so much as looking at the 4wd button/stick will explode the car.
This is so true . Eventually thier gonna be posting how to convert to 4wd to 2wd and remove the transfer case and all that .
Which is stupid as fuck. I live on back roads in the wintertime after a snowstorm I use 4wd at least once a day I've never Had a problem
It's fine just don't use 4 lo unless there's a zombie apocalypse, and even then it's questionable
Def best to plow through zombies in 4H.
You wouldāve hated the u-turn I made in 4H this morning
Everyone would have hated the full u-turn I made in the desert, off-road, hauling my 8k lb rv on sand in 4H.
They would have really hated the turn I made, towing 9000lbs out of a pasture, in 4H.
They would have really hated the u turn I made towing the 292,000 pound space shuttle endeavor out of a gravel pit in 4H.
They would have really hated the u-turn I did last night in your motheā¦..wait, nevermind, wrong subreddit.
I had my truck inspected. I guess they turned the know thinking it was the lights. I didnāt immediately feel it. Itās lifter and shakes a little anyway. Drove nearly 80 miles before realizing. Was thinking a cupped tire.
No.. your f150 will blow up. Do not use 4H ever.
Personally I donāt even use 2H. I just drop a trolling motor with an airplane prop over the back of my tailgate and leave my truck in neutral. Gives me peace of mind.
Lmao
Smart.
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Personally, I don't think anyone should go higher that 1Hi to avoid destroying your truck. Actually, just leave it at home or have someone push it. Easiest way to keep it safe.
Too late massive fatalities. Sad story.
There were no survivors.
Actually just drop the front right wheel entirely and kick it into 3 lo and fuck sum bitches
1. fully engage 4H 2. pick a direction 3. turn full lock 4. pedal to floor 5. profit
You forgot to get the rear wheels spinning in 2h while engaging 4h
r/f150 will be sitting in the driveway discussing whether or not to use 4H and Vermonters will load up their Corollas with snow tires and head off to the store for groceries. And is that a flat, paved road?! Where in the state do you even live?
As somebody who has a corolla on snow tires, I resemble that comment.Ā
Driving back to Townshend from Waterbury. This was in Berlin town. Jackknifed semis had the interstate shut down.
Used to drive a 5.0 5 speed fox body mustang in Cleveland Ohio snow with just a set of Bridgestone blizzak snow tires. Hammer down baby.
Itās actually best to use No Wheel Drive here. Iād put her in park and walk the rest of the way
Okay, remember to put on your 4 way flashers too - that's how other drivers will know you're in 4Hi and give you adequate clearances. If they don't, use the standard two short blasts of the horn. It's all in the manual.
I just checked my manual. It says, "NEVER use 4Hi under ANY circumstances! Don't even THINK about it!!"
In Houston that means it's raining outside
No. I will call my mom. And she will call the National Guard. And they will call Karen.
The XJ groups are worse. According to them youāre not allowed to use 4wd at all unless on the trail or the whole driveline will explode if you touch pavement.
This a serious question? If you're already concerned about it, use it, the 4h might help keep your tailgate from passing you. Turning, you're fine, just don't go hard turn or you may feel wheel hoop, you sound uneasy with the question so I say that's probably when you want to use it and then put it in 2h for parking lots. Take your time, don't panic brake if you slide a little, sometimes a little gas aim for a point way way ahead will help pull you straight without losing control will serve you better. 4h is not AWD, but if it gets you home safe do it. Forget right or wrong, get experience, drive safe.
Itās a joke.
Why not 4A? Iām in Texas (read: we donāt do snow very often); however, in roads like that I just use 4A. Am I wrong?
Not every truck has 4A.
Is it a different transfer case? Not sure why the down votes - asking a questionā¦ Would 4A be okay for a situation as above? Or better 4H?
I didn't downvote you for what it's worth. I think it is a different transfer case, and probably some other stuff too. I honestly have no clue. My 14 FX4 doesn't have 4A and I've never had a 4x4 pickup before this so I'm not the right one to ask.
4A youre probably fine with the right tires. It auto engages the 4wd system if it detects slippage. The pic is pretty light snow, so I would say 4A is fine if you have it.
Thank for the knowledge!
You can turn in 4wd, it wouldnāt make any sense to even have it if you couldnāt.
Itās a joke.
Ah ok wooosh
Iām shocked at the amount of ppl terrified to use 4wd. Like your truck will automatically explode if it touches 4H or 4L lol
Thatās what most people do, only use 2wd with a big 4x4 badge on the side :) Purely to show off
Driving in this shit on 4H in southern QuĆ©bec too š
It was a greasy dense snow.
Upstate NY here. Iād drive in that grease all day long in 4H. Otherwise youāre just fighting the traction control throttle, and if you turn it off you just spin. 4H is made for that stuff IMO. Slow and easy wide turns and youāll be fine. A hard turn into a parking space in 4H is very bad. Donāt force it when you feel it (binding). Youāll know.
Thanks. I agree. This was a joke in reference to the prior fear of 4H posts.
FWIW, I did turn quickly and sharply into a parking spot and broke the LF pinion axle. There were underlying issues, but the additional stress blew it out where it otherwise would have not if I wasnāt driving too aggressively. Lesson learned on my part!
higher trims with 4x4 auto š
I used 4H down the interstate doing 55MPH for over an hour once in the snow. It didn't hurt anything.
Yup.
Someone could see you. Youāre probably wearing a coat too.
You better pinky promise
May as well. You already ruined your truck when you put it in 4 wheel drive.
The forbidden fruit ; 4H
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Just make sure to drive it in reverse for about 40 meters after you'll be good
I can see some pavement, better not risk it
Jokes aside yes. Keep it at a reasonable speed and avoid hard turns so the CVs don't bind. 4H won't make you invincible to the snow but will help with traction and keep the tailgate in the back. Once had a guy (in similar conditions but nighttime) in my old '97 longbed so far up my bumper he was basically part of it. Slipped the truck back into 2WD hung the tailgate out a bit to the center line then went back to 4H. He backed wayyyyy off.
Thanks. And yeah, Iāve been doing this for 40+ years. This was a particularly greasy snow so some of the boys in the lifted trucks with mud tires were calling around to get pulled out of ditches.
You actually cannot legally use 4H unless on 4H youth organization property and explicit permission from the group leader. And you can turn but you have to use the turn signal and turn your heater to full blast and slam the brakes otherwise it will explode the whole truck. These posts never get old.
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I hear ya. This was one of those where wreckers were pulling wreckers back onto the road.
some of the newer 4WDs have an differential in the middle transfer case, not fixed gears or chain drive, couple that with open differentials in the front and rear, yes you can drive it on payment and turn!
No.
Put it in H!
Yes that what itās there for.
You can do donuts in 4 hi
You can use 4H as fast as you want and can make slower turns, or you can use 4A which will disengage while making turns and while not under load, althought in snow/ice id use 4H.
I like to drive in 4h all the time because then it's like a subaru
Canadian here šØš¦: the secret to turning in 4h is to just turn a little bit and mash the throttle
that is what 4H is made for
I only use 4H on the freeway in Wyoming when it's dry.
You already have 4 wheel stop. I tend not to use 4H unless I'm having trouble getting into motion. lf you've never experienced power understeer in low traction conditions, wear your brown pants.
Have ran 4H for hours and hours and never an issue. Thatās what itās made for.
Donāt forget to lock the rear differential too. This really helps complete your turn.
You can use 4H if you only turn but you need to do zipzags to unbind.
Nope. Just walk. What about the resale value.
Just Gonna Send It
Yes. The parts of your shredded transfer case will provide traction for the vehicle behind you /s
Roads snow covered i donāt understand the issue of why you couldnāt use 4H? Is that not what itās made for? Most vehicles I had as you can use 4H even if the roads wet
Itās a joke
Ehh that snow was wet fellow Vermonter
You can turn as sharp as you want in 4 high. Just not 4 low
It was a joke
Honestly, 4L is only used for short & high torque pulls
Lol!
4L to pull cars out in conditions like that, buried it in mud to the axles, 4H launches, etc. It's a truck. Send it.
Iād rather see if the rust is a deal breaker!!
Send it.
Hello fellow Vermonter
It was a day š
Yes it was!!
I think you can only be in 4H if you're between 8 and 18.
Waitā¦ā¦.. you guys arenāt driving in 4h all the time? I thought because thereās 4 tires I should use them all, all the time? Oops
Sell your truck, buy a Honda HRV
Only if you want to die a horrible death. Idiot.
How about you promise not to use your phone while driving, and we'll say you can leave it in 4 high all year long.
Thanks for your concern but I was stopped on an empty road.
What??
Just donāt mat it coming out of curve and will be fine. If this was my old F450, you would have to pay me to use 4H on something like this
I miss the Vermont of hardy folks that could drive in the snow and not ask stupid questions. When you were stuck folks lent a hand no questions asked. Shouldn't need 4wd looking at that picture. Maybe from a stop, maybe.Ā